Free parking on Baltimore Avenue is your best bet.

Park wherever you want because the illegal parking plan doesn't go into effect until late June. Make sure to slam your doors and chirp your car alarms.

Oh BOY, total meltdown of the D4 whiners in 5, 4, 3 . . . . .

I'll have my car stereo and bass pumped to the max cruising through d4. Probably be listening to party rock.

Special Event Application. I must have missed it. PPB taxpayers are paying for this!!

Randi -good one

The mayor testified on the bill 1914…He starts at the 25 minute mark. You can hear the testimony by going to the following link at click on the may 17, 1:00 session. At the end of the tape around the 55 min.mark. It looks like the bill passes exempting the bar,police and garbage fees for ppb. So I think that means that it is legal to do what the council is trying to do. There has been so much talk about it so I figured I would post it..

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/media/archive_audio2.asp?KEY=SBA&SESSION=2012

Relax DroppingLoads- I got this:
To Beach_knave- do you really think the mayor and council should put the best interests of the mostly out of town BW employees who rely on heavy tips from the heavily intoxicated drunks (if you were at the last council meeting, you had vivid proof) OR should they put the best interests of the people of PPB first? We report, you decide (Mr. Happy loves that saying!)

The PLJ Memorial Day concert has been around for some time now. I can't recall it ever being a major issue for the town. The over rated Seafood Festival is probably more of a burden on the town's resources then this concert is.

get facts,,I said "I THINK" unlike you some people do actually think,,haha

Obviously you did not listen to the questions and answers on the hearing...if you did,you would not make such ridiculous comments,,,oh geez.....

Ms. Kelly...as usual you distort the facts. That was just a hearing on the bill. There was no vote! Nothing Barrella said is new. Same old duplicitous arguments. . .And while we're at posting documents on 'patch'. . .why hasn't the Mayor submitted his 5 page letter he sent to the Senate Committee prior to the hearing?

...now let's talk about the Mayor's numbers: he claimed the town would employ 109 police, costing $400,000. When asked: said the town got $1.2M in Court revenue last year. He also said BW pays $250,000 in property municipal taxes. . .when you add that money with what the BW offered for each year($160,000)...that comes to $410,000...more than enough to pay for the police. I won't get into what else he said. . don't want to upset the "Residents First" gang on Parkway too much. . .they weren't listening?

Ms.Kelly---Instead of calling people names, like insane, why not just stick to the issues? You do know the difference between what Barrella says and what the legislature does, don't you? I ask again, when you look at the link I posted where do you get the idea the bill passed the legislature, and where do you get the idea that the bill, as reported out of committee, has anything to do with what the Council is trying to do? Has it dawned on you yet that if the legislature needs to take action for the Council to do what they want to do, then the Council doesn't have the power and your attention should be directed to Trenton and not New Jersey Avenue?

I have not listened to the audio. I looked at the bill as posted on the Legislative site, which is what the committee has voted on and approved. It's not many pages, just a few. Read what the committee approved. You can also link to the Assembly version of the bill.

The audio means the Mayor is continuing to argue that PPB needs to be given special treatment because of the number of mis-behaved tourists we have. Unfortunately, because PPB’s taxes are low, and the legislature has communities with much greater needs to help, it does not look like the legislature is going to provide the power to the Council that the Council would have to have to do what it has been trying to do. In addition, the audio makes it clear that all of the traditional ways municipalities have raised revenue are going to remain intact. The bill also makes clear that services that municipalities usually provide, like police, cannot be charged for separately. The “clarification” at the end does not help because, as Barrella noted, the language of the bill, as reported out of committee, would not allow any fees to be imposed for special police in a residential district.

Now answer my questions

1) Was the bill passed by the legislature, as you said?

2) Does the bill permit the pay to stay open ordinance or does it just talk about whether the money collected, if allowed, would be included in the 2% cap?

People clearly turn a fun concert that is held every year in to a political disaster. You all need to just shut up and stay focused on the subject of the article.

The biggest travesty of all of this is the fact that the BW pays 250K in property taxes.
Anyone else catch that little fact? That and the immense burden on services which is why we are here in the first place. How about 10, just 10 McMansions @ 50K per in taxes. Yeah that's right, double the tax revenue, with 99% less burden on resources.
But where will we go, Mr. Happy if we want to walk and see the ocean? How about a 5 minute drive to immaculate Sea Girt; maybe you can't get your pretzel or cotton candy, but there is no stench and no "jersey shore" crowd. Let's face it folks, it's all only a matter of time now.

Thank you all for a fun filled day.
Go fly your flags, clean the BBQ, ice the cooler and enjoy your weekend.

@ mr happy
What????The BW pays JUST 250 k in property taxes????
If that is the truth it's peanuts!!
Please anyone else confirm????

Beach_N8IV, Aren't their 3 Councilmen living in your District? All of the Council People work for what is in the best interest of all residents, not District Specific.

@Better living--yessir, that's it 250K in taxes. That's from Spooner post at 1256 PM of the transcript from mayor's testimony. But, of course it used to be more, but, well you know the old story, they challenged their tax bill and with deep pockets and friends in high places, the town had to settle for the reduction. When Paul Mulshine was on 101.5 saying this, even the anti-Barella hosts on that show were shocked at this. Even the BW spinsters can't deny that this is an outrage.

@vanessa
@Mr happy
....wow, since the BW offered 800k over 5yrs(w/o batting an eyelash), wondering what the BW REALLY could afford to give us?
Makes you think?

Happy: like I said. . .the town got enough money to cover the $400,000 police cost. . . with $250K Barrella claims(difficult to ascertain from County records) and the $160K the BW offered. . .Then Corbally, Tooker and Gordon...pandering to the "Residents First" cabal. . .put an end to that? Now as of today. . .there's NO money, one lawsuit and possibly others coming down the pike. . .not to mention the states involvement over the bar closings. . .What was it Barrella said at the hearing about lost state revenue?. . .How many 10's of thousands of dollars we talking about Mayor ...maybe Dept of Taxation can answer that question. . .and doesn't that money go to support state services. . .

With the above numbers from Happy and Van Rudd, BW does nothing for the town of PPB....might as well shut it down! I don't want to hear about all the jobs the BW provides. When I bought my house, I don't remember a stipulation in my mortgage that says this town must employ ppl to work on the BW

For you clueless simple minded people like better living, Rudd, and Happy : the boardwalk pays much more in property taxes than 250k. That 250k is Barrella trying to spin things his way to make it look like a low number to the taxpayers. He leaves out that the 250k he refers to is just the municipal portion of the tax bill which is the smallest portion of the tax bill, roughly 22%. They also pay the school portion of the taxes (49%) and the county portion (29%). To put this in terms for the small minded to understand just look at your tax bill, lets say you pay $8,000 in taxes, your municipal portion you pay is only $1,760, pretty remarkable right !! So when Vin the spin tries to tell you the boardwalk only pays 250k in property taxes he is full of sh**.

Most of the jobs are not even minimum wage. Go ask the people ( the Eastern Europeans, Russians and from the Islands) that work on the BW. They get about $5 an hour. Some kids from town still get jobs up there, but it was not like it used to be.

Seriously, Pat and Dave should just shut all operations down for the summer. Close the beach, rides, bars, food places, and stands. Let the town go bankrupt with no visitors pumping the meters and no tickets to be written. Let all the hotels default. Come back next year after the town loses about 3 million in revenue and buy everything up that went bankrupt. It will be the only way to get people like Barrela to say the town can not survive without the boardwalk. And for all you morons comparing us to Sea Girt, are you prepared to fire 2/3 of the police department and dpw workers because we can become Sea Girt and they won't be needed.

PPB was a resort town for years! All you complaing should move the hell out!

Another 2 for 1 from Mr. Happy:
To Alrighty-than: It's actually Alrighty-Then and complaing is not a word. Work on it.
To Spooner: yes Mr. Happy is here to correct you too. The premise that land value is tied to income is so very bogus. If you take a pay cut/loss of income, will your property value and taxes go down? Certainly not. Do you really think ocean front property value will change whether or not there is a million dollar or a one dollar in income? Same answer. That is to say, same value. But thanks for posting that link that brought to light what the BW pays in taxes. Now, you're doing something to help . There may be help for you yet.

You must be new here son. Mr. Happy corrects all errors: factual (you wouldn't believe some of the things I've had to correct), grammatical, spelling. You might say I'm the Patch Police, so to speak. So clean up the grammer- and now the language- and you'll be just fine. To be clear, I will again quote Gunnery Sgt. Hartmann (Full Metal Jacket)--work on it!

Beach knave, when the other districts have marauders running wild at 3 AM, maybe we can discuss quality of life issues there. And who said I was a Glen Beck fan?
I just mentioned a book he wrote. Do you read, knave? I mean books, knave, books; not just the Patch and Ocean Star. Broaden your horizons knave, then maybe we can raise the bar and have a sensible debate.

Happy- Beck on "Defense of Capitalism"...or his other revisionist stuff. Defense of Capitalism kind of anti Barrella don't you think?

Mr. (maybe even Mrs., Ms., or Miss) UN-Happy---Though you fashion yourself as some sort of genius elite member of the mensa society---and while YOU may even think you're very sharp and witty---the TRUTH is---you're just another one of those rube-esque "knaves" lacking a social identity---a perfect match for the current group of "misfits" that have found their perceived niche in the world of small-town local politics!
Since YOU have assumed the self-imposed duty of correcting others----lest I return the favor. "Grammer" as you reference above---should be spelled "Grammar." "Sponsered" as you cited in a different article----should actually read "sponsored." Shall I continue Happy-less-ness? Perhaps the use of a dictionary might be helpful to keep beside your computer while you post away--- throughout the night and day? Ooo---I'm a poet and I didn't even know it! And you Happy are......well......Nah----I'll leave that one alone. Why pick on the helpless, hopeless, happless? Besides---you've already been santioned by Ms. DiStephan once or twice for being a crude and vulgar dimwit. No need to reinforce your insecurities and weaknesses. Pity for you shall suffice.

ok,I was asked to repost haha.......
.Mr.Happy, I was taking a break from posting but I have to say many people are guessing who you are, and many,many more just want to shake your hand,haha...I have been asked if I know you and if I can put people in touch with you,unfortunately I don't and I can't, but I have to tell you that you have developed a fan club,haha....through conversations and emails,I have to tell you that people agree with you and are happy that you are posting,haha

Spelling,Iresponded to your other post out of sheer enjoyment but this post speaks for itself so no need to respond haha....let me know when you turn 18 and we can have a conversation without me getting in trouble...haha

Everyone ready to kick off the summer at Jenks this weekend. ? Starting early Friday morning the cold beer will be flowing at my house. Make sure you park and chirp your car alarm for the squeaky wheel folks of d4.

Now they are all parking in d3. They will be complaining real soon. That is the reason why d3 is against the parking plan. I say let them have all the problems that d4 has been dealing with for a while. They will be whining and demand changes because now the tourist will be affecting them.

I really don't know what your point is? You have 3 Councilmen in your district and soon their will be 2 Council people in District 1. That leaves 2 in District 4. Under your small minded approach District 3 is the lonely area. Grow up.

JFYI- ...a reliable source, who attended the concert, said people were "hammered" and drunk on the beach at 6:00AM. Some admitted to sleeping on the beach since 3:00AM

70 arrests in Seaside Heights in one day?
Is PPB next?

Yes it can...with ease too. It is going in that direction. Unfortunately many are in denial on what is going on in their own town. The line getting in to Martel's at 1 in the afternoon today was very long at $15 to get in.. that is why there is no need to go beyond the 12 closing. Drinking that long is enough. The Reid/Cortes republicans who are running for council has the mentality let the boardwalk do what ever they want for the "money" $800,000 concession from the boardwalk. The money is just not worth the town going down real quick. I do not know where the boardwalk is advertising? But it has to be somewhere. We always had tourist coming here but not at this extent. We are a small town and we can only fit so many in at one time. We have way to many tourist coming at once. It is out of control and it is only a matter of time until something happens. I feel we just can't handle the crowds at this level. I seen a lot of extra police walking around in the street and they are even overwhelmed.

Reid...has, lets say, a VESTED interest in BW!
..thumbs down when time comes to vote for him
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Cortez, not too sure about him, but if he is w Reid...that alone says a lot!

I fine the post really funny that claim the drinkers will just start earlier do to bar closing at 12...Newsflash they already start early.

I think Beachknave may be right on this one. Time to change the roster at Jersey Ave. and this is the year to do it. Replace Lurie and Reid with Loder and Cadalzo.
Then we'll have one (R), one (D) and four (I). Perfect blend. Get out the vote!

171 citations written in PPB this past weekend....great revenue for the town, but is that what we want PPB to be known for?
....it's only going to get worse.

I was out on my bike on Saturday and Sunday night for the bar closings, riding around both district 4 with a couple loops through 3. From my experience, these are the two busiest nights of the year for the BW bars, so this should have been worse case scenario. Although I quite obviously do not know most of the people who are posting here, I must say that I don’t think I could identify any residents (other than seeing Andy Cortes on Sunday night doing the same) out taking a look for themselves in order to assess the effectiveness of the increase in the police patrols. Please forgive me if you were out and about. Granted, this is surely not your responsibility to so, but I did find my firsthand account to be informative enough to validate a post here

Stephen-thank you for your non bias assessment of the past weekend. I agree with you about more enforcement ends this whole fiasco that Barrella and company have created. Alot of the vandalism that goes on in this town is caused by local kids who have no direction from home. (i.e.graffiti, breaking bottles, fights, drinking at end of cedar ave, etc ) It's a real shame the boardwalk businesses have become the scapegoat for the town malcontents listening to team Barrella. Kudos to Andy and you for patrolling and finding out what really goes on. As you also mentioned the groups rentals are the biggest problem when it comes to noise and drunks but for some strange reason those who rent to these individuals constantly get a free pass. I think V Rudd should get her dust pan and broom and keep quiet with her tax reduction.

We all appreciate Mr. Schneider's report from the weekend. And the officers he encountered who said they were surprised how quiet it was. That must have been from the DMZ, because there were not 171 citations as reported by Better Living.
There were 179. 80 of those for drinking in public. 40 for urinating in public. Oh, and 46 criminal arrests. Keep in mind, these are just the people the police caught. Multiply that for the actual numbers. A quiet weekend? We report, you decide.

Mr notHappy- how many of those violations came from the bars on the boards? Love to hear that fig. Vrudd - many of us love this "god forsaken town" just the way it is so if it's so bad move to bay head or sea girt.

Mr. Happy: Do you have the weekend statistics for the hours of 12am and 3am in the residential areas west of Ocean Avenue in order to apply an “apples to apples” comparison? I don’t think that it is quite fair to apply town-wide crime statistics for Memorial Day Weekend to my observations. I would be very interested to see those numbers. Thank you in advance.

To:
A Resident- It's a public record.
To:
Oingo-if you are saying that most of these violations are not BW related, why does the BW accept culpability by offering 800K for police services? Even they admit the problems stem mainly from the BW, you can stop defending them.

Vrudd - your true colors are shining bright on your agenda. People like Steve S are trying to become part of the solution and give people hard facts and all you and happy do is spew venom. You both started your political attack at 9:05 and 9:30 yesterday morning. Attacking Tim Lurie and Steven Reid while happy totes his political landscape for the dais next year. And don't tell me about low class because I've seen you in action. If you want me to elaborate I'd be glad to. And Happy, the only reason the boardwalk is offering 800k is because the 4 bloc members are extorting it out of them with their soon to be illegal ordinances.I wonder how you and Vrudd are going to feel when a certain councilman changes his mind and votes to take the 800k and leaves the bars open till 2am. It's gonna happen just watch.

Mr Happy - I think your tunnel vision on blaming the boardwalk is evident. How you blame the boardwalk while this town has this working against it.

1. Gangs moving closer from Lakewood and Brick

2. NJ transits last stop with public beaches

3. Local kids becoming more disrespectful of others and others property

4.Landlords renting to anyone who will pay their price (underaged, rowdies,Jersey Shore show types )

Vrudd - o.k. thank you for clearing that up. If you would like to continue constructive dialogue I'm game. Didn't the people in this town vote last year for no parking plan? I understand that you voted for it but the majority didn't. It is really a shame that someone broke glass on your walkway but that is today's society. That can happen if people park in front of your house or not. People leave diapers and all kinds of garbage in front of my house. Once I saw a mother pull out a portable toilet for her child and after the child went to the bathroom the mother emptied it in my neighbors shrubs. My point is these are enforcement issues because you can't shut down the entire town. Reid,Lurie (and Mayer ) all wanted to take the money for more enforcement. The parking plan is going to be a complete disaster. Can't enforce on county roads and there is not enough manpower.

One other thing Vrudd - you have people in this town who have "not in my backyard attitudes ". Just look at what cindy lu under one of these threads. She wrote that the people who live in d3 need to start going through what the people in d4 go through and should basically feel your pain. Really? That's the friendly attitude that is being taught? This town needs to stop the division but it might be to late. Certain people thrive off the negativity.

For the record, the council passing these ordinances, will in the long run, do us all good. The good of the12AM closing is self evident. If the council compromises with the BW and accepts the donations, more police will be available; the BW gets what it wants, the town gets what it needs. The most important part though, is the parking plan. The people of D4 needed relief from overnight chaos and the parking plan provides that.

Hi Full Timer, I'll be glad to answer.
#1- I don't think I have ever heard the premise of planning on taking a parking ticket and absorbing it into the cost of the evening. Has anyone else?
#2 - I can't believe I need to answer this question. But I will answer your question with a question. If someone is too drunk to move the car at 12AM to avoid a ticket, how much drunker will they be at 2AM when they get in the car to drive home? After 2 more hours of drinking from 12-2, why do people make the point here that it is safer for the drunk who drives at 2AM than the 12AM drunk? Defies logic, doesn't it?
As to the stats, I don't have geographic breakdowns, sorry; but if you are comfortable with 225 police interventions regardless of place of occurrence, so be it.
Hope I was of help.

Thanks Mr. H for your polite reply. Honestly, there is are 2 small unlined parking spots by my home that will fit a smaller vehicle. On a number of occasions each summer, I advise people who park there that these are not spaces and they will be ticketed. Many move and thank me but others shrug there shoulders or comment that since there is no other place to park they will just pay the fine even when I advise them of the amount. Evidently, visitors WILL take the cost of a parking fine and add it into their expense. In response to your reply, which is logical and does some make sense, I agree .. that would still mean that the same drunk driver may be behind the wheel twice, regardless of how intoxicated they are. Statistically, the odds of a mishap double. Remember that a driver going home at 2AM is also (and hopefully) more likely to hit a DWI check point on a major road then someone just cruising our local streets for parking. In regard to your reply to my earlier posting, I believe you misunderstood as I didn't ask for a geographic breakdown. I was curious if you were holding the boardwalk clubs responsible for the 80 citations given to those for drinking in public since the clubs do not permit the removal of alcohol from the premises with their security backed up by local police right outside or how you could in any way be sure that any of the 40+ criminal arrests could be tied to the boardwalk clubs without actually viewing the arrest record. Thanks you.

I came up with a compromise as an alternative to the current closing ordinance. I know there are other ideas still on the table and it's not the perfect solution. I'm not posting it simply because my contact on the government side as not yet informed me of a response or if it's been presented and I have not yet had a chance to present to the Storinos. I have, however, told a few residents, full and summer, of it and the response has been very positive although somewhat doubtful that it will be accepted with both sides so "dug in". BTW, although I have only been in PPB since 1957, my parents started vacationing in town in the 1940s during the days of the Sammy Kay Band (who stayed on Central Ave.) and the other Big Bands who played the "Pavilion". Even then, the anti-tourist sentiment existed. Not to be redundant but, the brawls outside the Rip Tide Bar(which closed at 3AM on Saturdays) in the 60s and the 70s, of which I speak first-hand, sometimes required assistance by police from neighboring towns. This isn't new although certain members of the council would like to have you believe that no problems existed when Fred Martell, Orlo Jenkinson and other "original owners" were still running things. In August, 1964, with the Fours Seasons on top of the charts with "Rag Doll" a group of residents unsuccessfully tried to stop their 2 night annual performance at Martells (Fred was their close friend) because of the crowds and chaos the show would bring. Nothing new!

Well, Full Timer we could debate the origin of violations all day long.
I will stand by my original statement that since the BW bars are willing to negotiate a financial agreement to help offset police costs, it is not "extortion" as the shriekers would call it, it is an industry that tacitly accepts responsibility. Enough on that.
As to parking, if you only have that one spot in front of your house, you are quite lucky. The regular streets are full, so hopefully our streets will be clear and quiet by 12, that's all we can hope for.

TODAY'S APP EDITORIAL- If you think the problems here are going to subside, read the editorial and see your future unless something is done. I just read it, many here probably already have but failed to mention it. Calls for Pros. Office and ABC intervention to step in and take control. Read it yourself! Coming to a town near you!

Read this and tell me you want the same for PPB...
http://www.app.com/article/20120530/NJOPINION01/305300007/More-same-Seaside-Heights?nclick_check=1

Summertime at the Jersey Shore: boating, fishing, swimming, walking the beach, strolling the boardwalk and, oh yeah, early-morning brawls and melees in Seaside Heights.

Year in and year out, it’s the same thing. The bars in Seaside close down at 3 a.m., as drunken patrons pour out, looking for trouble.
Summer 2012 began the same way. Between Friday night and Monday morning, borough police made 151 arrests in the resort town, said police Detective Steve Korman.
It is time for Seaside Heights to close its bars earlier and for the state Division of Alcoholic Beverage Control to have a greater presence there to determine whether the bars are serving underage patrons and exactly how the bartenders determine when someone has had too much to drink. The bars don’t seem to have a handle on it.

Also, as we have suggested in the past, Ocean County Prosecutor Marlene Lynch Ford and the county freeholder board should pressure officials there to take the steps needed to tackle the problem, starting with closing bars earlier — and, if need be, shutting some of them down altogether.
“Rumors that the police had to ‘shut down the boardwalk because of large fights’ are untrue,” Korman said. In most cases, he said, it was large crowds watching two people fighting. That’s small comfort. On a booze-filled summer night, it doesn’t take much for a crowd to turn into a liquored-up mob.

The police maintain that when the bars close, they make sure everybody leaves safely and in an orderly fashion. Really? Last summer in Seaside Heights, a series of fights broke out after a July Fourth fireworks show, resulting in 62 people being charged with disorderly conduct. Police ordered the boardwalk closed at 1 a.m. for safety reasons.
For both safety and quality-of-life reasons, Seaside Heights should shut its bars down earlier. Unless safety has taken a permanent back seat to profitability, the appropriate responses are a no-brainer.

Now after reading the above who is willing to say they are against the changes coming to PPB.
And dont anybody respond with a comment about jobs, revenue and all that bull$%!^^.

Mike... what is your idea of taking action. . .close the bars at midnight with a caveat of money and occupancy deductibles to stay open later. . .Lets see: promote government shake downs(Al Capone style) or it the Boss Tweed way...with corruption. . .Just trying to figure out at this stage who your audience still is...that believes all your BS? Yous people are a joke..with all your double talk!

I also wonder why the Patch has not published the story being that it is exactly what we are about to go through. Very strange...

Full Timer- it has been great debating with you, but Mr. Happy will now take a much needed and dare I say, well deserved rest. Nothing I say from this point on will carry the weight of the Star Ledger and AP Press agreeing with a 12 AM closing. When you add today's AP Press editorial calling for, in fact demanding, county and state intervention into the issues of Seaside Heights, up to and including shut downs of the bars; well, simply put, the die is cast for PPB. Unless our elected officials are successful in their attempt to bring OUR situation under control, there will be outside intervention. Seaside will serve as the template and any challenges from the PPB BW will be measured against our unfortunate brothers to the south. The parallels are unmistakable and no court will miss them. I will be back, as the need arises, but for now the path is clear and this debate is over.

Hi Mike, Our memories of the 70s seem to differ and I presume that you were not in the beach or old enough to remember the 60s and that's fine. Most of us tend to remember the past in a way that supports the current cause we believe in. I did enjoy the old Martells Mini Golf Course Thanks for the reminder and for your reply.

Mike, I was going to mention Jenks "Little Golf Course" last night. I won (and lost) many a free game on that 18th Hole. We evidently agree on the old mini golf courses and some PPB's past. I wish we weren't apart on some the current issues. I remember when you, Tim L. Dan D. and Mike D. were all on the same side and I supported you all but that's politics. Have a nice weekend.

Mr Spoon,
It would be entertaining.

Mike C., Orlo Jenkinson and his family were top notch people. I remember him walking into that little old arcade on the west side of the boardwalk and popping 5 extra games onto the baseball game I was playing.Initially, I was sad when he and Alice sold to Pat in 1976. By then I had done a couple years working for them as well. I last saw Orlo in 1980, I believe, and he surprised me by saying he wished he had held on for a few more years. Off hand I don't remember the year he died, but it wasn't many after that. Since the purchase, the Storinos have done a terrific job that they just don't seem to get the recognition for. They are wonderful employers and members of our community. The Boro has been very fortunate to have two excellent owners over the past 86 years. If this battle lines continue to be drawn, we might not be as fortunate the third time around. It appears that you and I have similar backgrounds and a devotion to the town which is why it so perplexes me how different your current perspective is. Consider a post you made the other day ..that "Point Pleasant Beach is Seaside 15 Years Ago". While I understand your attempt to draw parallels about where you believe the the boro is headed, such a comment could easily discourage the family clientele that you so eagerly desire when one of the town's leading officials compares it to Seaside Heights. It's a "scare technique" that can do more harm than good. Again, have a nice weekend.

I have watched the change over the last 15 years. We should be scared. Anyone who walks Jenkinson's Boardwalk during the Summer and doesn't see the negative spiral has blinders on. They are great business men that have attracted a new clientele that only benefits them. I don't even believe they knew this would happen, but they created it. They couldn't get enough of a good thing and no one said stop to their expansions. Its time we take our collective heads out of the sand. The people who live near the BW are living in chaos. Look at the police report. You have a great weekend also.

@Mike C
If you take a serious look you will see that our entire society has changed. Things aren't what they were 15 years ago. You can not fault any businesses for this change. Put the blame where it belongs on the individuals themselves. Let our police officers continue to do the job that they do so well. They are sending a zero tolerance policy to anyone who violates the law. Isn't this what everyone wants. You will most likely see a rise in the police reports. Thats because the police officers are doing their job, and a great one too! Things usually appear worse, before they get better.

It says Jenkinsons boardwalk. They advertise it as Jenkinsons Boardwalk. Maybe they owe a licensing fee?

Mike C. I live one block in from Ocean Ave. and while I will concede that the clientele has changed over the past 15 years, I hardly agree that I am living in Chaos. There are more people, and there is more noise, and a little more disrespect, at times yes, but certainly not chaos. Consider this please... If things are really as dismal as the scenario that you appear to be painting, how much of an impact will a parking ordinance and closing the clubs two hours earlier really have? How will this resolve some of the "gang related" issues that we had last summer that had nothing to do with the clubs? Crime and related problems, and an overall drop in "civility" have increased all over NJ not just in Point Pleasant Beach. It seems that the only real solution to the problem, as you portray it, would be to turn the borough into a "gated community" or to keep all the bridges that lead into town in the "up position" from Memorial Day through Labor Day, both which we know are unrealistic. I applaud you in your desire to make Point Pleasant Beach a better place to live and vacation! I simply don't see the current solutions as being the best way to achieve your goal. I believe that I have said all that can be said, at least for now. Have a good summer.

Mayor- your OS letter...talk about twist and spin?. . .there's not one line in their editorial that mentions the numerical destinations of those bar ordinances. . .Quite frankly when you read it. . .there confused with the several amendments themselves?

...you said that OS calls it "a bad" thing to cut off alcohol consumption at 12AM. . and that they called your ordinances "illegal". They used no such words? They gave their opinion as to what reasonably in their estimation could happen after 12AM with bar patrons getting into their cars under the influence and going to other nearby towns. . . and that your ordinance would possibly be challenged in Court. . .

...you have a problem with them questioning your fees to stay open. . .how would that address quality of life and safety. . .you don't think that they the Ocean Star should raise those issues. . .Why then do you back track there in your letter?

...you don't think it's reasonable for the OS to raise the point of "litigation costs" if other parties join in to challenge the town's ordinances. . .again you back track and play footsie there as well. . .So whom are you writing this letter too...or should I say for what purpose. . .

Well folks, I said I would come back when I was needed. So here I am!
My man Spooner says that Corbally should "recluse" himself from voting due to conflict. A recluse is............well, look it up. Face it son, you're out of your league.
As to the question of who should recuse themselves from voting on matters involving the BW? It would be laughable if it wasn't scandalous. How many direct links must we see between Reid and the BW? The very latest? Reid at Jenk's for the summer blast off concert. In the owner's private box. As usual, we report, you decide.

Slappy- you got to get yourself educated to the law. . .which apparently you and Corbally like wave off with a fly swatter...

http://starnewsgroup.com/weekly/2012/04.26.12/pdf/gasiorowski__04.26.12_75459.pdf

@Mike C. Perhaps the economy is a major factor in the decline of seasonal/weekly rentals here in PPB. Is it that less families want to vacation here or simply can't afford to. How much do seasonal/weekly rentals go for?

Ruth, I don't know if weekly family rentals are down or not this over last. I personally don't have anything to compare too. I know all of the seasonals I saw were groups not families. I know my friends and neighbor don't bring their kids and grandkids to our boardwalk. Would you want kids to see the sort of behavior that went on last week East of the tracks? Look at the streets where the arrests took place. It is spreading. Kick in paying between $1000 and $4000 for that show?

No, we mostly sell houses and we are very good at it. Last weekend none of our rentals received a write up. Midnight bar closings for a year or so I believe would help.

A Resident,
If you are a resident you would know family rentals have been going down for years. Point Pleasant Beach was a place the same family would come vacation year after year. I don't see that anymore. The agency I'm part of has no rental history to compare. I do see more seasonal rentals drifting to the south end of town, and they never had seasonal rentals.

Continuing on the Reid/BW connection, does anyone wonder who paid for those slick campaign mailers? I doubt the sad remnants of the Rep. Club's few members could raise the money to fund these mailers. Speaking of the mailers, one mentions the mayor and Corbally dominating this year's finance committee with taxes going up. Interesting, since the finance committee was chaired by Reid's running mate Bill Mayer. It's his budget being slammed by his own running mate. Clearly it's time to purge. The first opportunity is the primary, June 5. Let's not miss it. Say no to the special interests. Vote George Loder, Column E. Residents first!

piecekeeper: don't forget his shellacking in 2004, when he ran against Corbally...losing by over 500 votes(906 to 1458) Then in 2010 he lost again running as a Republican insurgent against Tooker. . .now Corbally and Tooker are supporting him. . .Ah does politics make. . .for strange bed fellows?

PS: a vote for Loder does not reflect the town's split agenda. . .when less than half voted for Barrella last year? Now don't everyone laugh at once...especially you 'Mr Happy'!

Character: overcoming past mistakes, becoming a solid citizen, running for office to do what is best for the town--George Loder.
A Character--Blatant ties to special interest with a shameful voting record that confirms that fact, "appointed" to council after 2 defeats, admits to not reading the budget, then votes no, etc., etc.,etc.--Reid.
We report, you vote.

Hey Andy we all know you're on here. Yes or no. Were you a guest in the VIP area at Jenk's for the Friday morning kickoff

How about your running mate

piecekeeper, Do you know when Loder received his DUI's? What were the years in which his mistakes were made? Apparently you know about everyone's personal life. RESIDENTS that have signs on their lawn knows all about Loder's past and still choose to put them up. Low life's in this town will not let it go. Maybe Reid's, Cortez's and Caldazo personal life should be investigated too. I am sure they have made mistakes in their past too. It has nothing to do with the boardwalk's successful owners. Like the spinning though. You must be related or connected to Spooner the Looner. Again, I am responding to other posts. I have stated everyone is negative on who they don't want and that is fact. It has nothing to do with being a hypocrite. The reality is. Everyone is not being truthful most of the time, are known to talk behind your back and yes being a hypocrite on different issues going on in town. Apparently it is the way of today's world.

That was one of many mistakes I made. It was wrong then and is wrong now. That's why I have chosen not to be part of a local political party. Negative campaigning works but I don't have to be part of it anymore. I've grown up a little too over the last 10 years.

Spooner/peacekeeper:Titile 39 is where you find the statute for DUI.
Title 39 is where the MOTOR VEHICLE laws are found.
I'll even tell you where it is-- 39:4-50.
Serious yes, but let's not keep labeling it a crime. I know ignorance is bliss, but you now take it to new levels.
Again, you're out of your league son.

Mike Corbally-you need only answer Spooner OR piecekeeper. They are the same.
It's comical when you look at the attempt to create 2 different bloggers from one inept person. Re-read what "both" have written and you'll see how obvious it is.
C.mon, Spooner, work on it! Be more creative! And correct yourself and tell everyone where you found statute 39:4-50.

piecemaker- if you have access to Ocean Star read the Point Pleasant Beach PBA ad they put in the June 4, 2010 edition just before the June 8th primary threatening town with either coming up with more money for police...or else. . .Slappy/ Happy wants you to talk about his nonsense. . . so you don't talk about Loder's character, whom he supports. . .It's all a sham. All/most of those so called quality of lifers(Cavagnaro, Tooker, etc) want to squeeze more money out of businesses; if not just out and out get rid of them, to pay for the ever growing cost of personnel. . . And what's insulting: is that they agreed to give them money last year(40K) and wow the amount this year($160K). . .and there still not satisfied. . .go figure it?

So let me get this straight. From everything I'm reading on this board, Loder is a drunk. So does that mean he's in the BW's pocket? If all the drinking related issues in town are caused by the bw bars, why is the bloc be endorsing him? I think he'd want the bars open 24/7.

PC-It's actually Reid in the BW pocket, it's well documented.

Peacekeeper- betweem? truely? You're still at 100%. The dumbing down of Patch continues!! Spooner has trained you well.

Reid is/was a plant by the BW.
Vote for Loder!
Tooker, Corbally, Gordon, Barrella not on BW "payroll"
Reid, Maher, Cortez and Lurie..."buddies, friends,...ALL have, OR will have a vested interest in BW"
Again, vote for Loder!

@piece
171 citations last weekend, how many more cops would you like to bring in?
25, 50,100?.....How about the National Guard? Is that what we want our town to look like?
The BW advertises and encourages undesirables to come into PPB. Until you accept that fact, you are in denial OR you have a vested interest in the BW. I am not going to rehash what I stand for. You can look it up yourself. In short, and quite simple...Quality of Life. Like I have said, I would even be willing to pay higher taxes to do so.

I just drove through The Promised Land and it got me thinking: As a resident, property owner and taxpayer in the town of Point Pleasant Beach shouldn't I have the right to park on a street that my property tax is used to maintain? Can I get a tax break for NOT being one of The Chosen Ones?

The election is almost here, we have all put in our 2 cents (or less) worth, so let's just relax and have some fun with that old crowd favorite, Mr. Happy's Poll!
We are all very familiar with the postings of Spooner. He is the most prolific blogger in the history of the PPB Patch. He really loves the town, you may even say he is obsessed with PPB, which is fine for a resident of our great town. But what is so vexing is that Spooner is NOT a resident of the Beach. Why the Beach obsession, I wouldn't know, I'm not a Dr., today I'm a pollster; and the question is: Where does Spooner reside:
1. Bricktown
2. Point Boro
I'll post the results after the election, when our favorite non-resident blogger weighs in on the results from his adopted Patch town.

Boro

Curious what all the BW and anti-Loder fans will say when he gets voted in tomorrow?
Barrella and Corbally fixed the polls?...lol
OR finally...
concede that he was voted in, by the people, and for the people of PPB.

@piece
...appreciate your honesty, thats what we want.

The votes are in folks.....And you are correct.....Spooner resides in Point Boro.
Remember this when he attacks our town with his incessant posts.
Mike Corbally-nice to see a competent politician with a sense of humor! Kudos!

piecekeeper- a waste of time. . .Mr Flappy as usual is behind the times...or is it...the eight ball . . .Slappy/Flappy. . .we've been down this road with Barrella and Cathy Kelly here. . .but look I don't want to spoil your evening. . .we'll make it your revelation. . .just for you. . .Now does that make you happy. . .oh that's right you call yourself Mr Happy!

Slappy. . .what happens on the BW affects the lives of the people in both towns. . . now don't use too much of your intelligence to figure how that is?

PS: your getting to be a boor. . .you contribute nothing in the way of information or knowledge on issues. . .other than your personal pandering. . .