Brick's F-Cove Now Barricaded Off to Boaters
Wildlife refuge manager will face the township council next week
Almost a month ago, the federal government told boaters the party was over at Brick's F-Cove.
Now, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is making good on the message that was posted on signs erected at the site several weeks ago. Anchored, floating barrels now physically prevent boats from entering F-Cove and another nearby local boaters' hangout commonly known as No Name Cove.
F-Cove, which was slated decades ago to become a residential lagoon community, developed into an anchorage for local recreational boaters, who for years spent days of fun, music and partying in the waterway, dug out in the shape of the letter 'F.'
The cove, located just north of the Mantoloking Bridge and the former Traders Cove Marina in Barnegat Bay, eventually became part of the Edwyn B. Forsythe National Wildlife Refuge, a string of open space stretching from Brick to the northern part of Atlantic County.
Public access to the Brick portion of the refuge at F-Cove is being restricted because the refuge's current manager, Virginia Rettig, has determined that recreational boating does not fit within the context of proper usage for such a designated area.
"Any activity that we permit there has to be tied to the needs and requirements of wildlife before they can be tied to what we need to do to recreate," Rettig told Brick Patch earlier this month when signs were posted in the cove warning boaters against accessing the site.
The issue of boaters congregating in the cove first became an issue in 2009, when the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service initially began the process of banning recreational boaters and threatened to anchor bollards at the site's entrance and fill in the lagoons.
At that time, township officials put forth legal arguments that the federal government had no business restricting access to the cove since the bay water that filled the lagoons constituted a tidal waterway held in the public trust. After the threat of litigation, the federal government retreated.
But since then, township officials say refuge managers have honed their legal case and established their ownership of the waterway. Since the lagoons in F-Cove were man-made, they do not legally count as a tidal waterway, the federal government's argument goes.
"They established ownership to the mouth" of the cove, Mayor Stephen C. Acropolis said.
This time around, the township will not consider legal action against the federal government, the mayor said. The only way to gain back access to F-Cove will be through cooperation.
"We're switching from a lawsuit-type mode," Acropolis said. "I've switched to, 'when can you open it back up?' "
Some parts of the overall refuge are open to the public. The Holgate portion, on the southern tip of Long Beach Island, has long been a location where four-wheel drive vehicles have been allowed, for instance.
Rettig will appear before the township council on Tuesday, May 8, presumably to discuss public access to the site.
"We want to find out, if we can't get it open fully to motorized watercraft, can we get the trails open, can we get it open to kayaks, people who want to fish?" said the mayor.
Councilman Joseph Sangiovanni said the issue of accessing the cove was a major issue in town the last time there were threats to close the area.
"Because of the enormous support we got from the residents, we were able to put it off for a few years," said Sangiovanni.
The council meeting where Rettig is scheduled to appear is set for Tuesday, May 8 at 7 p.m. at the township municipal complex.
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Correction: This article had originally stated Virginia Rettig would appear before the Brick Township Council May 1. However, Rettig's appearance is scheduled for May 8 at the council's public meeting.
Danny
7:32 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Sounds like the manager Virginia needs tol learn how to lighten up and have some fun. It's people like her who let their power from their job go to their head. For decades people have been going there and now all of a sudden it is harmful. What a joke.
Walt
7:42 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
I don't understand, when did government stop being "For the People" If so many people enjoy going there, what better reason do you need to keep it open. I know it's not the same but everyone should make it a point to anchor just outside of it and continue congregating in the area.
lisad
7:53 am on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
the left wing nuts are taking everything away from us. it was fun and free to hang there and they take it away.
yknot
8:26 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
I was thinking the same thing...lets get everyone to gather outside of the entrance. I'm sure they would rather see us in the cove then hanging in the main waterway...
Tom Spano
7:47 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
The problem with this government is it thinks we work for them, not the other way around. It's time we get them to listen to us.
Boose
8:12 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Ever since the Jersey Shore cast went there in an episode the crowds got way out of hand. I personally can't stand the place as it is a congregation of people that try to make the bay seem more like a spring break destination. Most of them have no business running a boat sober, never mind wasted. I say it's better for the traffic in gunner's notch, I'll stick to Tice's thanks.
Resident
9:54 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Blaming the Jersey Shore cast for the F cove getting out of control is rediculous. Now that the F cove is closed your beloved Tice's location is aboutto get a whole lot more crowded. This move is a mistake in my opinion, the boaters will just find another place to gather and enjoy themselves. Atleast in the F cove the marine police stationed at the bridge kept a close eye on the place.
Joe
5:28 pm on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
If you don't like the party atmosphere like you said, you go to Tice's but that crowd is going to be alot more rowdy this summer with the closing. Its a lose for the F-Cove go-ers and a loss to everyone who enjoyed the calm quiet atmosphere of Tice's
GaryR
8:18 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
"Any activity that we permit there has to be tied to the needs and requirements of wildlife before they can be tied to what we need to do to recreate," Rettig told Brick Patch earlier this month.
Oh, OK... they "permit" us to use the area in our State/Town....who's paying you folks? This whole thing has gotten out of hand. How about this, let's put tax paying HUMANS at the top of that wildlife list and rethink this whole situation.
Folks, I'm all for wildlife preservation but this is ridiculous. The birds & fish have plenty of areas to breed and flourish....this area is not vital for their continued well being.
"...banning recreational boaters and threatened to anchor bollards at the site's entrance and fill in the lagoons."
If they are so concerned with the wildlife, why did they threaten to close it off and backfill it? I'm sure that would have killed tons of birds, fish, crabs, turtles, frogs, snakes, etc....right?
Daniel Nee
1:12 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
Gary -- At the time, the argument was that the lagoons are too deep to support certain species, so filling them would create a wetland environment that would arguably support more marine life.
lucy
10:59 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
How does it feel to get OWNED by daniel nee? DERP
Glenn
8:18 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Too bad we can't send Fish & Wildlife a tax bill for all that waterfront proprty.
Betty Ann Fuller
8:19 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Boose, you are correct. That case ruined it. And I also agree about the boaters who still haven't taken any boating courses are on the bay/ocean. Only when there is a tragedy, do people stake a stand. That's why the State Police do random checks, thank goodness.
BrickAmericanMan
9:34 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Lets all party at treasure island now...at least the water circulates there and is not filled with gas and urine. At least F-cove kept things in a confined area. That place is not a wildlife refuge. if it was it they would never have let it get to the condition it is in now.
bths06
9:43 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
If there is going to be cooperation it needs to be between everyone: Mayor, Council, Wildlife people, and the people that are using F cove.
I was out this past weekend saw that it was barricaded off but still saw boaters, jet skis and others going in and out of f cove. If we want it open right now we need to obey what is being said in keeping off of the property then maybe with some luck our elected officials can work something out with the federal government and allow us back in to enjoy the area.
Milo
9:48 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Plain and simple no one is making money off of the F cove. If you had to pay to get into the F cove there would not be any problem, since the only way you can get there is by boat and there is no guard gate where you pay and get a ticket like everywhere else in jersey then of coarse someone has a problem with all the boaters hanging out for free me being one of them!!! So charge me already and leave it alone!!
bayboat
10:06 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Virginia probably honed her skills as elementary school hall monitor and college dorm RA.
Resident
10:10 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Those damn young whippersnappers with those shiney new boats and those new fangled jet skis showing too much skin in them two piece bathing suits blasting that devils music were up to no good gathering all together like that I tell ya, now they will have to go elsewhere and be someone else's problem......
Boose
2:03 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
Resident, I don't know about you but I have 30 years of boating experience. Every year there are more and more IDIOTS out there cutting across my bow oblivious to what's going on and to what's appropriate in the circumstances. Tice's shoal is gigantic compared to F-cove and there is no shortage of space to safely navigate. On multiple occasions I had to take evasive maneuvers to avoid collisions with these idiots trying to pull in there. Pulling a 34 foot express cruiser into F-cove for a weekend of drunken debauchery is not my idea of a good time.
Resident
11:37 am on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
I too have 30 yrs on the water and do not blame the people in the f cove for the uneducated boaters on the water. Do you honestly think that if they shut down the f cove the drinking on the bay will stop? This is the old addage of a few bad apples ruining the bunch. A better solution would be to have a more dilligent police presence in the cove since they do station themselves at the bridge or some form of crackdown on the f cove abusers, sooner or later the message would get across and the party will tame down. Just because it is not your idea of a good time doesn't mean it is wrong....or right for that matter.
DM
10:30 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Its a wild life preserve and it was treated worse then a bar! Treat it right and it would be open.
Brickresident
10:36 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Well atleast it will stay clean now!
Joe
5:33 pm on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
Trash was never as bad as percieved. Believe it or not almost all F-Cove go-ers do clean up after themselves, and look after each other to make sure they are not leaving a mess.
lifelonginbrick
11:01 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
F the boaters keep it for the wildlife. Humans are stripping away more and more wild life areas every year. There are plenty of other places obnoxious boaters can go and pollute. Sorry but it's digusting how many boaters just chuck crap in the water. How many bennies moved down here because they liked our wild spaces and are now turning this place into what they were trying to get away from to begin with. Keep it wild or at the very least ban all motor boats and keep it for canoes with strict pollution fines. Just cause you have a boat does not entitle you to destroy every last wild place!
Boose
2:29 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
That's a bit excessive no?
Joe
5:35 pm on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
So where else would you like us "obnoxious boaters" to go? We will find a new spot, and no one will like us there because it won't be hidden in a Cove like F-Cove. Say Treasure Island, you think people are going to enjoy that more where families like to bring their small children to play? F-Cove was a perfect spot.
Nautigal
11:22 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
How anyone thinks the federal government has any business in the Barnegat Bay is beyond me. This is a direct attack on our rights and our culture - like it or not. Got a problem with F-cove? Don't go there. Someone please tell Virginia to shove it and go push some paper somewhere else. Jeez people - c'mon!! Straight-up government power grab. Stop letting this happen!!!
lifelonginbrick
11:31 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Protecting our waterways and environment is not a guberment power grap. Not all of us are selfish whiney entitled people who think part of our 'culture' is occupying every speck of wild area and chucking beer cans and condoms into the bay while our crappy boats spill oil and gas. There are a lot of places boaters can go, there is NO REASON to destroy the bay for selfish amusement. The fact that there is tons of garbage in the bay is big enough proof that a lot of boaters are just not responsible. The drunken a-holes can pretty much dock anywhere else and get lit so let them. Some of us natives to the shore area actually like our wild life and remember what it was like down here pre obnoxious benny.
Da Poppa
9:56 am on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
Actually, the activities in f-cove should be monitored by the state police marine division, not the federal government. There are problems with f-cove, but banning all boaters is not the solution. The solution is for the state police to monitor the area, ticket as needed and arrest drunk and under the influence boaters. we don't need the federal govt to take over.
JoeBrick
2:16 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
Everybody should show up the meeting Tuesday night with signs to support F-Cove for Humans. The ban of F-Cove for human recreation does nothing to promote preservation of wildlife and does everything to limit personal liberty. How could a man-made area designed for residential property be considered a benefit to wildlife? The only wildlife flourishing in the area is mosquitoes and crabs, and I am not particularly fond of either one of them.
#OccupyF-Cove
Da Poppa
9:50 am on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
It was nothing more than a Federal land grab .... Put it under federal control and take away the rights of local government control ... Who ok'd the refuge? Who allowed it to expand into privately owned shorelines?
marine one
10:17 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
amen. joe i will be there.
Marina joe
2:40 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
Five has been there for years and just like everything else a few bad apples ruin it for everyone else. As a marina operator I have seen more repair work come from the cove because people taking boats inthere that should not belong. It has gotten out of control and the partying has gotten outta hand not only here but at tices also how many accidents have we had. People need to be more conscious of our actions. That's right we pay taxes we are entiteled to do what we want and now one should tell us otherwise. Half of boaters don't even belong on the water but there check book gets them the biggest boat they can afford and there lack of common sense and mutual respect for others gets them or someone else killed. Leave it closed they won't go to tices not with gas prices raising and treasure island most of these people won't even be able to get off the island as soon as the tide goes out. Should be an interesting year for boating. Be safe be responsible enjoy ur season everyone
Chief Wahoo
2:44 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
The only people more disgusting than the slobs at F Cove are the people in government.
BrickAmericanMan
3:09 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
What about making the F-cove shallower only allowing access to small boats? If they are concerned about sea life then they would put in a pipe that connects the back cove to the bay which would create circulation in the cove.....anything living in thier has 3 eyes...not just because the pollution but because the place was man made and is not eco-friendly by design. THIS IS NOT A NATURAL HABITAT...it was MAN MADE, therefore cannot be a wild life refuge.
SoylentGreen
4:40 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
I'm glad it's closed. Nothing but a hang out for drunks and roid heads to use as a big toilet. Where do you think all that drunk beer goes?
Joe
5:40 pm on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
I am glad you find enjoyment in seeing other people not be able to have fun in a way you do not. May I ask what you find enjoyable during the summer?
Brick26
4:42 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
The government wouldn't mind keeping it open if they were able to charge us people who do go there. Not all of us trash the place and act like a bunch of out of control animals.
Joe
5:41 pm on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
I don't think anybody at F-cove would have a problem of paying 10-20 dollars to go in, as long as the money was used at F-Cove and not just a money grab for the town.
Barry Russo
5:12 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
Brick has become a cesspool recently, and closing the F@#$ Cove was a brilliant idea. I say we close down the fishing pier, the beaches and anything that allows the scum from North jersey and NY to congregate. I would rather see them fill in the F Cove with landfill and make it another Foodtown abondoned lot like on Route 88. Then we can be sure for at least another 10 years of peace and quiet. This town is a joke, safest town, LMAO!!!! We lost that title years ago, now we are just a pass thru as the fist pumpers head to the beaches. You all wanted the mayor, well look at all his promises from 2008-9, and see EXACTLY what he did to all of you. He didn't even kiss half of you after he was done.
jim
5:58 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
What a coincidence f-cove is closed as soon as"taxpayers park" is being built
Mike
7:16 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
Its ironic how the people pro-closing the cove are so vocal to complain about it. Simple fact... if you don't like it there, don't go!
For the rest of us who do enjoy Brick's coves, don't fight, know how to drive a boat, and do not litter why should we be punished??? These coves offer much more than just a weekend party. They provide some of the most relaxing experiences a boater can ask for. Dinner, wine and watching the sun set aboard a boat which sits idle for 8 months of the year makes for an amazing night. Maybe even the American Dream (or atleast my version of it). I am a hard worker, a Brick resident, a tax payer, and a responsible boater.
I agree with the statements about the government taking action simply since they cannot generate funds from it. Look at the beaches... millions of people leave trash behind, cause fights, create traffic, give the area a bad name, and have surely disrupted the wild life in the creation of the boardwalks, restaurants, bars, arcades, etc. Since the town, state, and fed profit from the tourism taxes, these recreational activities are widely accepted. Can someone explain the difference to me?
Us boaters will simply find a new home. A new place to congregate, and honestly, those who respect nature will continue to do so. Those who do not will remain pigs. The advantage to the coves... close to home. Able to beach the boat and not rock. And, it's a central safe meeting place compared to the open waters.
DT
10:11 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
Were are we supposed to go now ??? I'm liking the idea of anchoring right outside the entrance.
Da Poppa
9:42 am on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
Have no doubt this is another way the federal government takes away states rights and local land use rights. The EPA has decided they can now control the waterways in NJ. Government regulations out of control.
Brat
9:45 am on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
Way to go Tree huggers
JoeBrick
10:01 am on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
I can't wait until Ron Paul puts an end to the EPA and all this wasteful use of taxpayer's hard-earned money.
lifelonginbrick
10:22 am on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
Sigh... humans really do deserve to be wiped off the planet. Lets review in the past years we have dumped and ENORMOUS of oil and chem dispersents into the gulf, now finding shrimp w/o eyes, crabs w/o claws thousands of dead sea life washing ashore, we also dumped tons of nuclear waste into the ocean via Japan, oh and the best several GIANT floating garbage islands one alone is twice the size of Texas and 3.5 million tons of garbage. No one even knows how to clean up. The plastic in it is breaking down slowly leaching tons of deadly toxins into the ocean. Really you have to be nuts to eat ANY seafood these days. The think humans can just LAY OFF the freaking ocean for a while to give it a chance to recover??? Nope. I get that people got used to partying and polluting their butts off at F-cove, however, it is now part of a protected area. Ya think selfish whiney little babies can just lay off it for a while and give nature one tiny little break?? Find somewhere else to get ripped. Really reading these comments you would think it's the end of the world.
JoeBrick
10:32 am on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
I'm not sure what you have less of, a social life, or grammar skills. Furthermore, I happen to enjoy seafood very much. I do agree with your position of being anti-pollution, however banning boaters from F-Cove will have no effect on decreasing pollution. The minority of classless people that choose to pollute in F-Cove will just find another place to do it, such as Tices or Treasure Island etc. Although to notice it, you would have to put the cheetos down and come out of the basement once in a while.
Joe
5:46 pm on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
I was waiting for you to tell me the world was ending in December anyway and we shouldn't worry about all the stretched out statements you just made.
KeKeBrick
10:12 pm on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
Lifelonginbrick, "humans really do deserve to be wiped off the planet. Lets review in the past years we have dumped and ENORMOUS of oil and chem dispersents into the gulf" are you not a human?! And obviously Joebrick is right by stating how uneducated you are from your comment here. You're obviously being a little ridiculous by not wanting to eat seafood because of the water pollution. Do you realize how much pollution the entire ocean has. Your not going to die... If you don't like F-Cove then mind your own business and don't go there. There are many days that it is nice to relax, park the boat and have a lunch for the day instead of parking in the bay where you can get smashed by boaters not paying attention. the only time it gets wild is a holiday or a weekend. If that's such a problem, then stay away.. YOU have other places to go, not all of the boaters who like to hang out there, so stop worrying about one small area of the bay that is set back and away from boaters who are cruising around or fishing. And by the way most of the people that go there are Brick residents, many that I know, not "Benny's". So get your facts straight before your start making ridiculous comments.
Mike
10:40 am on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
As usual. a fun place is ruined by people who dont know how to act. When i went there years ago on a saturday there would be a no garbage, fish and few boats..maybe 10 max and that was a lot. I went back there a few times to party and yes it was fun but i would see people throwing trash and dumping beer every where. its a shame.
BrickAmericanMan
11:01 am on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
Mike- how long ago was that? sounds like the good ole days. I cant even imagine only 10 boats being in there now lol. I am 30 now and I remember my friends camping out there when we were 17. The word spread like wild fire. People should visit http://www.f-cove.com/ and see the good times that good people used to have there.
Joe
5:48 pm on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
F-Cove sundays is when all the 21-30 year olds go. I can assure you head there during the week on a vaction day or a Saturday you will still have a peaceful time.
lifelonginbrick
10:44 am on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
Yes Joebrick didn't you know that all of us "uneducated" adults want to do away with clean air and water protections because as Ron Paul has pointed out people and corporations (per Romney corporations ARE people) will just magically do the right thing and not poison our air and water. Wow. Based on your past comments you seem to put a lot of stock in looks ("too ugly to fit in") and social life.... sniff it's such a shame we all can't be one of the cool kids like you. I get that people have become accustomed to that spot but it's part of a protected wild life area now. Just find a new place to party. As to seafood? Hey I love it too but given all the damage we are doing to the ocean it may not be the safest to eat. Sorry but I do think the government would hold off on reporting seafood saftey to avoid hurting the industry. Fun fact as a species we are currently consuming enough resources that it would take 1.5 Earths just to sustain the CURRENT levels of land,water consumption. At some point we have to sacrifice some amusements for the future.
JoeBrick
11:19 am on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
I only pointed out your education, or lack thereof, which you again have shown by this last post. It was obvious by your mommy-joke attack on me for making a valid point that you didn't have the firmest grasp on reality. Ron Paul believes regulations can be performed by private organizations, not government departments. (or magic), since we all know how efficient the government is. If you'd like examples of effective private regulations currently in place, do a simple google search, or ask me and I'd be happy to show you. As I said above, they will find a new place to party, but wouldn't you prefer the party to be in a quiet segregated area? This is preferential to the party clogging channels or disrupting more family friendly areas such as Tices or Treasure Island, which is where the hundreds of F-Cove regulars will migrate to. This tiny little party spot has no impact on your life, or anybody else besides the people that enjoy it. Take a look a major party spots on the water, such as Lake Havasu and you will realize F-Cove is just a small place. Partypoopers like you are shameful. Additionly, your fun fact seems like a baseless claim to me, let alone an irrelevant topic to the discussion. Finally, Romney has pointed out a lot of things, as he flip flops more often than I can keep up with. And for the record, Ron Paul has never referenced magic as a solution, although it's more likely magic will fix our problems before the current state of government overspending does.
Joe
5:52 pm on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
So can you please explan how F-Cove is hurting you in any way? How does it pertain to YOU.
lifelonginbrick
11:56 am on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
I wish my fun fact was baseless (I really do). But it's not. It's just math.
http://www.footprintnetwork.org/en/index.php/GFN/blog/living_well_in_a_world_of_7_billion/
Yeah I know Ron Pauls Randian joke policies .... the trouble with 'private' entities is that they have one goal - to make profit at all cost - they are not beholden to a common good and co-opted and corrupted. Take Monsanto for example when faced with daming evidence of their activities killing off bee populations they just bought the research lab that produced the study - problem fixed (for them not bees). The government is far from perfect but as many forget WE are the government and it is up to us to vote out and/or fix areas not working. Private companies would not have to answer to anyone but their stock holders, which does not make for good watchdogs. I really don't care what happens to other party spots my point was maybe people need to find a less damaging way to have fun, if that makes me a "partypooper" I could give a .... poop. My point was that maybe people need to be more respectful of our planet and put it first for once. Future generations are going to wonder what the F we were doing when we had all the warning signs in front of us and did nothing - what do we say "Sorry but we didn't want to deprive ourselfs of any amusement lest we be bored that weekend"...
BrickAmericanMan
12:37 pm on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
the f cove is a MAN MADE LAGOON. This is not a natural habitiat or a preserve. They planned on filling it with dirt and building condos which would have killed everything and caused more pollution then the boats. Id rather it be a haven for boaters then more condos.
Joe
5:56 pm on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
Thank you for enlightening me with so much "scientific evidence"....“[t]he facts about the coming catastrophe are so obvious. Just apply a little grade-school math and economic common sense: Our planet’s natural resources can reasonably support about 5 billion people. That’s a fact. Another: Today we have 7 billion. That’s a problem, 2 billion too many. We’re consuming commodities and natural resources at a rate of 1.5 Earths, according to estimates by the Global Footprint Network of scientists and economists.” So the organizations OWN scientists and economists said that with no background or evidence and we should believe that. You can make research show anything you want, get real. Or then again say what you want and just add the organizations name onto the end of it to attempt at gaining credibility.
lifelonginbrick
12:41 pm on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
It WAS a man made lagoon but has since become incorporated into the Edwyn B. Forsythe National Wildlife Refuge, it is no longer a future condo site. The point is to allow nature to recover it.
Joe
5:58 pm on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
The wildlife is just so thriving over there.... Theres nothing productive in that water, no one bothers the marsh area to the side of it or anything. I do not see the problem here.
Linda Stoll
1:28 pm on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
When you think that there are maybe 16 weekends in the summer that there could be a crowd at F Cove that means at the most 32 days. So 15% of the time the weather is crumby so that leaves 27 days out of 365 it might have a crowd. Not enough to compromise wildlife or the ecological balance. I bring my grandchildren there during the week in the summer and there are never anymore than a handful of boats. With gas prices the way they are where are the boaters going to be able to go. This is the first nail in the cofiin of getting us out of the Barnegat Bay. We can pay the highest taxes to live on the water but the govenment only wants you to be able to look at it!
John T Vogel Jr
4:52 pm on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
NEW SPOT.....APPLEGATE COVE.......Just down the bay south of Silver Bay....They can try but THE PARTY MUST GO ON!!!!!...Spread the word...Any questions contact me... john@nulifepavers.com
Nautigal
9:46 pm on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
First nail in the coffin is right on, Linda! Get used to it folks. Lifelonginbrick who believes "Humans really do deserve to be wiped off the planet" and MANY more who think just like this Marxist moron are here to tell you how it's gonna be! Do not submit to these traitors! They think this world would be more beautiful without people. I invite them to go first. Let's see how it looks then! Liberate F-cove!! We have God-given rights, people. Fear no man.
lifelonginbrick
7:57 am on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Wow Wendie it's adorable when you use words you don't seem to know the meaning of like Marxist. I was not aware that all people who care about clean water and air are Marxists. Hmmm. Any species that trashes and destroys it's own habitat deserves to be wiped off the planet, that is not my opinion that is nature's rule. Take a biology class. I don't want to see humans wiped off the planet but short sighted people like you will sure make that happen. sigh.
Joseph Woolston Brick
10:18 pm on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
First we have to look at something. Who complained? Was it the fact that the state workers found a mess back there OR was it one of the multi million dollar home owners in the area that doesn't like the crowds with the noise and extra boats being so close to his compound? I bet I know the answer already! It's not what you know but who! Look into it boaters!
lisad
9:02 am on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Joseph, F Cove is not near ANY residential development. It is "out of the way" of pretty much anything. I do not agree with a lot that does go on back there, especially the drunks...but i don't have problems with those who choose to hang and have a beer or two or play their music loud...As far as the trash is concerned, while people are pigs, there are also people that clean up AFTER the pigs...hell i live on the water and i get empty Tide containers, corn shucks, bottles, boats, plastic bags and assorted other garbage...I wish we could get a huge group together to go to the meeting on the 8th. More Fng government taking away fun....Do I see the reincarnation of Hitler somewhere.....
brick strong
11:20 pm on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
HANG OUT AT TRADERS COVE BY MAYORS BOAT...PARTY ....
lifelonginbrick
7:29 am on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
kekebrick, wow so I guess anyone that disagrees with you or Joe is "uneducated". Your reading comprehension skills need some work. It's not that I "don't like" F-cove but rather since it's become part of a protected area I was just wondering why people can't give it back to nature and find some other spot to pollute. As to me not wanting to eat seafood from polluted water? Uh yeah eating fish from polluted water is not such a good idea but hey what do I know I'm just uneducated.... unlike you.
lifelonginbrick
7:48 am on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Joe, the link I gave you is to a nonprofit organization comprised of scientists from around the world to where over 5,000 points of data from over 150 countries are collected and evaluated with regards to our consumption of current resources and future population sustainability. It's math honey. Their report is used by the united nations and countries around the world to manage their resources and even the Wall Street Journal Market watch uses it for forecasting. I don't have a sock puppet so let me try and use words to explain this... we have only one planet with an expanding population and limited natural resources if we don't steward these things wisely when building cities, developing products, etc it will result in dire economic and health problems. What is it with people like you and KeKe who seem to think we can treat the planet like an ashtray and not have any problems to deal with as a result? But hey KeKe actually thinks it's cool that our seafood comes from polluted water no harm right?
lisad
7:52 am on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Wow, even tho i don't spend a lot of time at F Cove, i do go there, it is a crime that they are taking yet another "thing" away from us. I spoke to Virginia immediately after the "Party's Over" article..she seemed reasonable. I guess she is an ass. She looks like a freaking "loon" (bird). We are becoming such a socialist society it kills me. It seems that anything we find remotely fun and inexpensive these days is taken away. I am all for wildlife, I am an animal lover but this is just BS. I wonder if we could get something together and go to her boss, the Governor......he seems like he likes to enjoy a good time..
JoeBrick
9:12 am on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
lifelonginbrick,
Your will to limit the personal liberties of others is unamerican and outright disgraceful, and people like you should be removed from society.
By the way, have you ever been to f-cove? Answer honestly now.
lifelonginbrick
12:24 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
WTF? I'm not limiting anyones "personal liberties". Take it up with the dept of Wildlife. I don't know who told you that you will always get everything your way in life sweetie but they were lying to you. There is still access to the site they just banned boats. Spare me your pathetic persecution complex - your not Rosa Parks just a drama queen.
lisad
9:20 am on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Lets write to Christie, he is all about less government....I already sent mine. He does read the emails and responds. I wanted to post his actual email address here but the last response kinda told me not to...lol...so use this site to contact him. http://nj.gov/governor/contact/
clyde
1:08 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
I have been in F-cove & I have to say I am shocked no one was ever killed there. Personally my boat was almost hit by someone with a large speedboat trying to unbeach their boat. Was not paying attention to any traffic to his stern. Wasn't there a bad jetski accident just outside the cove? The problem with f-cove was size, way too many boats & too large boats to be in there at one time. Did Jersey Shore have something to do with the closing? I don't know, but once I heard f-cove was on the jersey shore, my reaction was oh sh*t. The people who this will hurt the most, are all the local marinas who repair all the boats. F cove was a gold mine, big heavy boats with deep drafts going over the sand bar at the enterance.
craig
11:52 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Hello all. Craig here. If anyone attended the Brick township meeting, I was the first to speak in the Q&A session.
We are planning on suing Fish and Wildlife in Federal Court in the next couple of weeks.
We will be setting up a dedicated web site as soon as possible to keep everyone informed of our progress.
Please stay tuned!
We have not yet begun to fight. We have all lost a big part of our freedom due to this unilateral power grab by 2 unelected federal officials (specifically Virginia Rettig and her as-yet-unnamed solicitor).
This action can not, and will not, go unchallenged.
Virginia Rettig has 47,800 acres to manage in her region of the Edwin B. Forsythe refuge (in just Ocean and Atlantic counties). The F-Cove and T-Cove together comprise less than 1/10th of 1% of the refuge.
I'll leave it there for now. More information will be posted ASAP!
Glen
7:13 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
Who owns a tug? And can remove the barricade!
Kate
8:38 am on Friday, May 18, 2012
This is all the liberal mentality Vote Mitt Romney
Kate
9:01 am on Friday, May 18, 2012
Liberal mentality vote Mitt Romney
DAN FRIENDLY
8:51 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012
All please visit www.thefcove.com for current updates on the cove. Thanks!