Chamber Event at Martell's Canceled
Martell's changed its mind to allow mayor into event, but some honorees were already cancelling
A decision to cancel the Point Beach Chamber of Commerce installation dinner to honor local first responders and public works employees at Martell's was made Thursday afternoon due to some honorees cancelling, says the chamber president.
"Some of the honorees said it's in their best interest not to attend because of the political climate," said Chamber President Lynne Mahoney, who was to end her tenure as president and turn the reins over to Ed Brannagan, Martell's manager, on Saturday night. She added she did not know the percentage of honorees who had canceled.
"The political climate" involved Martell's telling Mayor Vincent Barrella he would not be allowed to attend the event due to his support of town policies that prompted Martell's to sue and his remarks about David Bassinder, former Martell's owner and father of current owner Scott Bassinder.
Apparently, that made some of the first responders and municipal employees have second thoughts.
"Some of them said they needed to remain neutral and we understand that," said Mahoney, owner of Lynne's, a shop selling women's apparel and accessories on Arnold Avenue. "We didn't know if we would be able to have the mayor read the proclamations honoring first responders."
Barrella had also been scheduled to swear in the new chamber officers and directors.
Only a few hours before the chamber notified Patch, Scott Bassinder emailed Patch saying, "I've changed my mind and will let him in but I feel he still owes my dad an apology."
But apparently some honorees had canceled by the time news began circulating that Bassinder had a change of heart.
Mahoney said she is disappointed that the chamber will not be publicly honoring the first responders and staff Saturday night.
"We really wanted to honor the first responders who did such a great job after Sandy," Mahoney said. "They don't get enough thanks, which they deserve. We'll still give them plaques so they know they're appreciated."
There were many members of the police and Emergency Management departments and volunteers with the Point Pleasant First Aid and Emergency Squad and Fire Department who put themselves in harm's way to rescue residents from flood waters, transport them to hospitals, shelters and temporary homes, feed them and clothe them.
That was despite that many of them saw their own homes and the firehouse on Arnold Avenue flood.
The municipal Public Works Department employees, who were also to be honored Saturday night, have been widely praised by elected officials and many business owners for doing an exemplary job clearing the roads of sand and mountains of debris in Sandy's messy aftermath.
Mahoney said the chamber will have a small installation dinner to install officers and directors within the next week or so.
The time, date and place are still to be determined, said Carol Vaccaro, chamber executive director, who will be setting up the new event.
Mahoney, who has been president for three years, a year longer than the official term of two years, said the chamber had not yet paid Martell's.
The dinner was not to be a fundraiser for the chamber, but an installation dinner dance to honor the first responders and employees and to install new officers and directors.
"We've had this installation dinner for 66 years, it's something we look forward to all year," Mahoney said.
The chamber had a fundraiser, which drew a large crowd, at Europa South on Wednesday night to raise money to advertise the town to help draw tourists this summer.
Vaccaro said anyone who has already paid for an installation dinner ticket can get a full refund at the chamber office at 517A Arnold Avenue. For more information, call the office at (732) 899-2424 or email info@pointpleasantbeachnj.com
Margery Charnack
6:26 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Just so sad for the town...people need to check their pride at the door when honoring others. The first shall be last..
I would like to express my thanks to the first responders for all they do, everyday, all year long, with pride and humility. They help not hinder the community so selflessly. It is a shame that a well deserved celebration in their honor had to be cancelled.
Shortie On Crutches
6:42 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
What a shame that one establishment can ruin an event for everyone.
Honor the first responders and swear in the new members in a place where
they will be wanted and appreciated!
Shame on you Martell's! You made this about YOU and not the people who helped
all of your town! Shame on YOU!
Mayor Barella, although I only come to visit PPB you are welcome at my house on Staten Island any time you want to stop by!
outofthebeach4now
8:14 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
If he goes, please keep him there forever.
SoylentGreen
6:56 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Put the blame squarely where it belongs on this one, Martells and the Bassinders. The fine emergency responders of Pt Beach will now not be honored due to the childish behavior of a few "small" people!
Mr. Happy
7:35 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
As always, Mr. Happy told you so. The BW has never cared about the people. Proof positive here, dissing the first responders. Sad.
Ray Criptkie
7:35 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Honnorees were cancelling because we have all seen the backlash that Vinny can spew if you disagree with him. Vinny is an idiot!
Blondie
9:39 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
I'm confused...does the chamber work for the mayor? Silly to cancel an event that would honor these great individuals. Maybe the chamber was looking for a reason to cancel since they were receiving heat about charging those "honorees" admission. According to Vaccaro, she wished to sell everyone tickets at cost for $40 (vs. regular $60 prices), but the chamber's a non-profit organization so she had to charge. Was the $20 balance being donated?
Barbarella
9:39 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
Blondie. You are not confused. The Chamber is the mayor's political operation.
Jo Jo
9:39 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Ray...Clearly you are the one who is an idiot! Small town, Small minded people...You must be very tiny!
Chief Wahoo
9:41 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Just like Good little statist ... Forward comrades !!!!
Shameful
9:45 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
What a shame that one person can ruin an event for everyone. Shame on you Vinny. You should have taken the high road and let the hard working folks be honored. You are a small man.
SoylentGreen
12:52 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
Vinny didn't ruin it, Martell's did. Get your facts straight.
Laura
3:17 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Let's get this straight. Martells was telling an organization, the Chamber, who they (Martells) would allow into the Chamber's Installation dinner. Plus, tt seems the Chamber was actually paying for the event. So, Shameful, stop the political bashing. .
Jersey Shore Grinch
10:02 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
The perfect hand in cards: four of a kind. The Mayor looks like a dunderhead. A major business owner in the community looks like an lamebrain. The residents look like a bunch of lunkheads. The Chamber looks like a bunch of half wits for putting the event in this position in the first place. The only real winners are the very few volunteers who bought their tickets before it became clear that the event was only designed as a money maker (which it was not going to be, thus the cancellation). They'll at least get their money back. If the Chamber was really sincere about honoring the volunteers what is preventing them from doing something in the very near future. How about it Chamber? Until you do I won't be patronizing any of your establishments and I would hope others send the same message so that you learn not to take advantage of those who give and sarifice for your benefit without any expectation of a reward or benefit. Shameless!
Jersey Shore Grinch
6:46 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
You apparently don't know your cards, Grinch. A royal flush is the perfect hand in cards and that's what they should do with all of the people involved in this debacle. Time to flush and start all over. Residents here are not even worthy of a courtesy flush since they continue to allow things like this to happen without imposing any consequences. It's more than shameless, It's just plain sickening but residents and taxpayers will have no one to blame but themselves when this all comes tumbling down, or flushing down, as is more appropriate and the town becomes another Keansburg. Seaside would be a major step up right now.
Opinionated
6:04 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
This whole episode says a lot. Where else can you make a mayor of questionable competence look like a martyr? But what I find telling is that many honorees decided not to go for fear of retaliation by the same mayor. But the real "winners" are the people of PPB. They had a chance to fix this problem when they had a recall election. If they were smart (which I wonder), they would start another recall petition and get it right. Perhaps they like being laughed at. Hey, at least the "Jersey Shore" cast had the sense to make a buck off their stupidity.
Laura
3:20 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Opionated,
How many of those honorees have you spoken to? Good Spin. Watch Bill O much?
Opinionated
7:30 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Laura, watching "The View" has hurt your reading and spelling skills. A suggestion: read the article before posting. It says it in there.
Laura
5:26 pm on Sunday, February 10, 2013
Opinionated,
The article said they wanted to remain neutral. Neutral definition: Not favoring either side. What about that would you like to spin? The volunteer organizations depend on contributions. Some of those contributions come from the businesses and help the town. Those contributions are tax write-offs. I'm sure no one wanted to offend the businesses either.
Feeling brave behind your anonymity? Bullying is bullying no matter how it's done.
Michael Ramos
6:48 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
As much as I acknowledge the Bassinder's for their generosity for donating to town causes (eg. An unsolicited donation of $3000 to the PPB Recreation Committee of which I am Vice Chairman-to help cover cost of scholarship campers), their decision to exclude the mayor and have a legal letter sent to the town attorney was a poorly judged political decision- not a smart business decision. The hospitality and restaurant business (especially small business on a local level), that relies on the local public to generate revenue year round, should not engage in these types of activities. Often times it leads to otherwise neutral people having a bad taste in their mouth regarding the establishment and a loss of business. It also overshadows the good things that they do- case and point - now the town is talking about what Martells did to the mayor and how it got an event held for the last 66 years cancelled! Vince is probably the sixth mayor that Martell's has dealt with and will not be the last. Politics is a contact sport ..... Hospitality/restaurant business is not. Battles need to be chosen more wisely.
Nick Carraway
11:46 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
Mr. Ramos, as much as I am disappointed that this situation occurred, I do not share your opinion that Martells is at fault for this incident. I think that many are disappointed that this incident occurred, but most recognize that both sides are to blame. What you seem to be trying to do is to expect that, because of Martells' business interests in this town, Martells should suck up the treatment it has had to endure by the Mayor. Our elected officials have an obligation to represent all of the taxpayers, and should treat all of those taxpayers with respect, whether they are businesses or residents. I believe that Dave Bassinder may be both. The liquor establishments throughout the town were targeted last year. I do not expect our small businesses, and they are small businesses, as compared, I guess to the business you work for, to simply suck up poor treatment by the local elected officials in our small town because doing otherwise potentially compromises their customers. The public statements these elected officials make hurts them and their business, and yet, you don't want them to respond to it either, saying that a response will hurt their business, too. As for the hotel industry, we all know that certain hotels don't welcome certain types of clients. Didn't you see Pretty Woman? I think there had to have been a better way to handle this situation, and both sides could've done a better job.
PPNB
12:22 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Agreed. Lost opportunity.
jess
7:06 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
I am sure now that you have spoken out in opinion you will no longer be receiving donations from the Bassinder family until you step down as Vice Chairman of PPB Recreation.
nemo
8:03 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
I find it quite insulting that Mr Ramos continues to insult our intelligence with his one sided opinions on issues concerning the mayor. Weren't you a BIG supporter of the mayor during the recall? How can you even comment on what Martells has donated to this town only living here about as long as Councilman Gordon yourself? Dave Bassinder has contributed to the local little league, first aid, fire companies, scholarship funds, animal welfare, school improvements, the local pba, and many many more agencies and groups over the years. You and others who don't know jack squat about the history of PPB now have the audacity to be critical of Dave for defending himself against a lowlife mayor who likes to bully people. Do you think it was right for the so called leader of this town to call Dave Bassinder a small man? This just after Dave donated hot meals to those in need and the members of the national guard stationed here. You sir, do not represent a large sector of people in PPB and you as Vice Chairman of a committee in this town that deals with alot of money should learn to keep your big yapper shut.
outofthebeach4now
8:18 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
Could not have said it better my self. Maybe Vinnie will take Tooker, Gordon and Corbally with him when he visits Staten Island.
Michael Ramos
9:34 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
Dear NEMO (Nameless Entity w/ Misinformed Opinions) - Do your homework......I was NOT a BIG supporter of the mayor during the recall....I was a HUGE supporter AGAINST THE RECALL. The recall should never have been allowed to happen since no laws were broken by the mayor - if you don't like him - vote him out in the next election, Dave and Scott have made many donations to this town I was simply referring to one that I had a PERSONAL experience with. If you read what I wrote - it is simply some advice to Martells or ANY business to not fall victim to politics as it does not mix well with business. I am a hotel/restaurant executive with 30 years of experience in hospitality - so I know of what I speak. I also am not aftraid to use my full LEGAL name when posting on this site and hide behind the surname of a little fish with a gimpy fin! Do I think it was right for the mayor to call David Bassinder a small man? ABSOLUTELY NOT!. if you check, you would see that I said that PUBLICLY using my real name - go back to that article and see what i wrote. I have no intention of stepping down as Vice Chair of PPB Rec - we are busy doing too many wonderful things for this town we care about. Sorry NEMO - you are stuck with my BIG YAPPER for many years to come - Like Councilman Gordon I am newer to this town, but I suspect we have contributed more to this town in our short tenure here that you have in your lifetime of complaining and griping . I wish you the best -
Michael Ramos
9:41 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
Nemo - one final note - I have never claimed to, nor wish to represent anyone in this town other than myself. I am not an elected official nor do I have any political agenda - or desire to run for office. I simply want to make sure the town I live in and pay taxes in offers my famly and I a good quality of life and safe family environment. I am not a blind supporter of any one idividual -every election offers the opportunity to evaluate who is the best candidae- regardless of thier party affiliation.
Really??
1:49 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
That Bassinder donated to good causes does not define his character. John Gotti did lots of nice things for his neighbors... http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/15/in-ozone-park-the-mob-ties-that-bind/
Laura
3:27 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
So you can voice your opinion anonymously but someone who has the courage to use his real name cannot? Good to know that.
Steve
9:40 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Mike, Could not have said it better myself.
Barrella Must Go
9:51 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Really?? Did you even read that article--and the comments that followed beneath the article--in the link that you posted? I actually DID read it. Gotti was revered as a "Good Fella", and he was the BELOVED HERO of most of the folks who were his neighbors in the Ozone Park section of Queens, NY. Most commenters cited specific examples of how the "HOOD" took a dramatic turn for the worse after Gotti's passing. Black and Latino gangs moved in and infiltrated the "hood", once Gotti and his La Cosa Nostra boys moved on. It's what you'd call "the vacuum effect." Even the NYPD couldn't do much to quell the demise of the Ozone Park "hood." Under Gotti's watch, Ozone Park streets were clean and safe, right? I bet Brooklyn Vinny could even confirm what a nice place Ozone Park, Queens USED TO BE, huh? So what was your point in drawing a comparison between David Bassinder and John Gotti??? But thank you for the thought-provoking link anyway. It makes one realize---"Be Careful What You Wish For"---because things could really get MUCH WORSE than the current "perceived problems."
Steve
9:54 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Nemo....You are the one who should learn to keep your big yapper shut. I am sick of certain people who are from PPB who thinks anyone who is a new resident should have no say or go back where they came from. It shows a lack of respect for those who pay taxes as yourself to run this community. Continuous comments like this not only make you or them small also ignorant. Anyone who is a resident f/t, p/t or not at all, just as an investment who pays taxes has a right to speak out against issues that are going in the town that they purchased property in. To disagree is one thing, to tell them they have no rights to speak out is another. Stop with the BS that only those who is originally from here. There is some people that have been here for 35 years are told the same ignorant statements.
A Resident
8:20 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
How is it considered an 'honor" for a volunteer to be charged $$$ to attend a dinner in their honor? Don't the volunteers already volunteer enough to not have to volunteer their $$$?
How about a simple Thank You letter in the Ocean Star? How about donations to their organizations? How about during things like the Santa coming to town or the Seafood Festival....give them some "Thanks" there publicly. How about a Thank You message on the Chamber sign into town?
Blondie
8:27 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
I totally agree. I think the chamber felt the heat from charging the honorees for a ticket. If they were smart and did their math correct, they could have increased the price per ticket to cover the cost of entry for each person being honored.
Steve
10:02 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Why would the PPB Chamber of Commerce have an honoree dinner at a place that is suing the town? Charging the honorees for their ticket is another ridiculous mistake.
Bob Alou
8:45 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
What a circus!! Hundreds of homeless people and they can't even put on a dinner party?
Bev Fantini
8:59 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
Pt Beach should now be keeping its eye on the ball which is the summer season. From what I am hearing, people are reticent to come down because of all of the damage so that decision will affect beaches and our town. Time to put differences aside and concentrate on getting up and running for Memorial day which was a big day last year!! Let's get the job done and move forward in a positive way. We all need each other.
Nick Carraway
9:21 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
This whole incident is very sad. Even more sad is the fact that we may have to look to those first responders and police for aid again tonight, as we brace for another nasty storm with more potential flooding. Thank you to everyone who worked so hard to help keep everyone safe through Sandy, and thank you for your continued help as everyone fights FEMA, the insurance companies, and apparently Mother Nature to try to rebuild. We'd all like to put Sandy behind us, but it's just not going to be that easy.
M Brodeur
1:21 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
We will be there tonight. And tomorrow. And the day after. Its what we do.
And yes, we are always looking for more to join...
Barbarella
9:38 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
It is true Vinny got a free ticket ?
E.Nagle Moylesworth III
10:09 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
the event was a fiasco in the making. Canceling was the only avenue for retreat. There are too many angry people in this community. The comments show how much anger exists. Lighten up folks. It's unhealthy to be so po'd over who you like or don't like.
Steve
10:10 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Should folks lighten up or turn a blind eye when other folks who represents the town with all the power is clearly making poor choices for the school or town community. A It just does not happen. Anger exists for a reason.
Part Timer
11:41 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
One thing I am starting to realize is that the residents of the beach are getting no help to protect our properties from future storms...Why,
1-Beach is privately owned. (has anyone talked to the BW owners to see if they will put dunes in place.
2- With all this sand being sifted, why not create a Berm around the lakes (Belmar started this 2 weeks after sandy hit.
3-Has the storm drains for these lakes been checked for the removal of sand and debree.
4 A higher sea wall along the inlet. (sorry fishermen)
These are all projects that when completed could lower our flood premiums in the future but no one is talking about them.
All we here is how WE have to rebuild, what about the towns responsibility with the above mentioned
A Resident
11:19 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Create a berm around the lakes? So for those that live on the lake, they should just allow the town to build a wall in their back yard. Lake of the Lillies, which has a pumping station attached to it to drain it as necessary to prevent flooding, should have a wall around it so that the water in the area can no longer flow into the lake and be pumped out of the area? Lake Louise, can just build a berm across the opening from the lake into the Manasquan River. Ya, good suggestion there on the berm around the lakes.
Higher sea wall? Cuz the water won't simply go around that, or do you plan on the wall going the entire length of Point Pleasant Beach's northern end?
PS - if you have attended any of the FEMA meetings...they have said over and over that adding dunes/seawalls/etc has no affect on their ABFE's and will NOT lower flood premiums.
Nick Carraway
10:10 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
A Resident, thank you for your response to Part Timer. I haven't spent much time investigating these potential solutions, but your responses seem to make sense to me. What troubles me more, though, is that we've had two members of the Governing Body, Councilman Corbally and Mayor Barrella, post on this article and neither one of them seem to have been able to respond Part Timer. I commend you for taking the time to share your response. It seems that many of our residents know more about the problems and potential solutions than some of our elected officials, and I find that especially disappointing during these difficult times post-
Sandy.
Nick Carraway
12:05 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Part Timer, "One thing I am starting to realize is that the residents of the beach are getting no help to protect our properties from future storms"...now, you sound like a monkey. You're only just starting to realize this? Face it, our governing body members are not full-time employees of the town. They have day jobs, which they need to support themselves and their families. That means that they have only so much time in the day to deal with municipal business. You and other proponents of the parking plan have been pushing for a parking plan, and drawing value time to its re-adoption, rather than, in my opinion, focusing on the bigger issues, like the flooding problems. These are big issues, and they're complicated ones. They should've been everyone's top priority post Sandy, not the parking plan. Our town has been grossly behind in its Sandy response. Even the BW reconstruction was tied to something, settling the lawsuits. Imagine what you would've felt like living here in PPB, full-time, post Sandy. While many adjacent towns had patrols from the National Guard, our local police (who did a great job) had to protect the town, alone. I'm glad to hear that you're finally turning your focus to issues that really are more important to the future of our town, even if it is a little late in the game. Let's see if we can get our Governing Body moving in the right direction.
A Resident
1:19 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
"our local police (who did a great job) had to protect the town, alone" - if you don't count the State Police presence that was here. I watched 4 State Troopers at the scene of an accident on Arnold Ave. PPB PD (who did do a great job) were not alone.
Mike Corbally
4:14 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
I strongly disagree with PPB "grossly behind in its Sandy response". Any specifics Nick?
Nick Carraway
8:56 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Councilman Corbally, if you notice, my post above is directed to Part Timer. Part Timer has raised some very important questions in his post, specifically related to the measures that are being done in PPB to protect against future flooding. If you'd like to refute my opinion, then perhaps you should provide an answer to Part Timer's post.
Steve
10:14 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
"Our local police get paid hefty salaries and benefits packages to protect the town" It is their job.
Really??
1:52 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Some are saying Vinny is being denied the right to purchase goods/services from an open to the public business for saying something rude. As anyone who has been to Martell's can testify, rude words/behavior is commonplace among many of those who patronize Martell's..... so clearly "rudeness" is not the issue. The biggest concern here is the fact that a business can exclude an individual from purchasing goods/services for having a difference of political opinion. Beware of the unintended consequences of supporting Martell's position.
Nick Carraway
9:00 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Hmmm....I suspect that if a patron of Martells confronted Dave Bassinder in Martells and called him a "Little Man", he or she would be asked to leave. I don't have any problem with the owner or manager of any business establishment (and that would include the local grocery store, hardware store, or woman's boutique) asking someone to leave their establishment if they directly attack and publicly embarrass that owner or manager in their business establishment. I wouldn't tolerate that type of behavior from guests in my home, and I don't think that an owner of a business establishment should have to "suck it up" just because it's a business and not a home.
Opinionated
7:43 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
To Mr. Corbally, what is being done to protect PPB from future flooding? I'm sure there are plans but I am curious what your plan of attack is. I see you have a new summer parking plan but we're certain the future protection of PPB has come first, right?
Vince Barrella
11:52 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Absolutely.
Jersey Shore Grinch
7:53 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
"Absolutely". I assume this is Barrella's response to this question: Of all of the self-centered, narcistics acts that you have committed since you were in office, of which there have been many, would you rate this as the most egregious and the one that has offended the most people?
Vince Barrella
8:47 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
JSG: The question was -- " I see you have a new summer parking plan but we're certain the future protection of PPB has come first, right?" My response to that question was "Absolutely." I am confused by your reaction. Are you claiming that "the future protection" of Point Pleasant Beach is not the governing body's first priority? If so, upon what are you basing that claim?
Spooner
12:03 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
...and while we're raising that question. . .let's focus also on a letter penned yesterday in the Ocean Star by one of Barrella's supporters, Dave Cavagnaro... adding more divisiveness, by criticizing the Council's vote on the first reading of the new parking plan. . .Yea, you can see where Barrella's and his lackneys priorities lie...
Steve
11:19 pm on Sunday, February 10, 2013
I am not on anyone side..Sometimes divisiveness is deserved on issues...What do you want people to do?... Just lie and go along with something they don't believe in.
Jersey Shore Grinch
9:21 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
The self centered, narcisstic act that I am referring to is when your uncontrollable ego allowed the actions of Martell's and your reaction by claiming it was an affront to your position of mayor to deflect from, and ultimately, eliminate, the rightful attention that should have been given to the volunteers. Your shameless desire to obtain an additional 2 minutes in the spotlight was more important than affording them their due, which is all most of them will ever get. You don't get it and never will. Book intelligent you are but in "people matters" if dumb was a drug you would have overdosed a long time ago.
Jersey Shore Grinch
9:25 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
... as to the protection issue. This council couldn't arrive at a consensus on anything. Protection to one faction means the residents. Protection to another means the boardwalk and businesses. It's up to you to mesh those together. You have failed thus far and will continue to fail as long as you rank your ego number one. Don't be too disappointed. Your council has also failed mserably and will continue to do so as long as party politics prevails. They've also overdosed on dumb.
Vince Barrella
10:11 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
JSG: I have no intention of getting drawn into a back and forth with you on your views of my skills, or as you clearly believe, my lack of skills, but I would ask if you were you at last Tuesday's Council meeting?
As to the protection issue, I believe you could not be more wrong. The one thing that you are right about is that it is a complicated issue, because unlike other towns, we are not only dealing with someone's views of the Ocean, but the capacity of a component of their business. While I believe the issues presented are not insurmountable, it is telling that you are critical of the governing body of a town of 5,000 for not solving those problems in months, when addressing less complicated circumstances have vexed the entire State for decades.
WHY?
11:28 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Mr. Mayor: Can you answer just one question for me. I understand how your decision to publicly complain about Martell's excluding you served your political agenda, and I understand how publicly complaining made Martells look bad, but can you tell me how any of this benefits the people of PPB?
Nick Carraway
10:53 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Mayor Barrella, all I'm hearing from you in response to questions about protection from future storms is political doublespeak. I believe that a dune expert came to visit PPB recently. Did that dune expert recommend that dunes be used along our coastline to help protect against future damage? Do our local experts agree with this opinion? If so, have you spoken with the owners of the beach to learn what measures they are willing to consider to help protect PPB? You say that, unlike other towns, "we are not only dealing with someone's views of the Ocean, but the capacity of a component of their business." Yes, that's true. But, you're also dealing with significantly fewer beach owners than other towns are. Perhaps it would be better if you put your personal issues with the bw businesses aside, stopped adding fuel to the fire, and all sat down to figure out what can be done along the beach, if anything, to help protect the town. If measures have already been taken along the beach front, please tell us what they are and who had been responsible for creating them.
Honesty instead of Corruption
11:13 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
I thought their was federal money to build dunes from Cape May to the Manasquan Inlet?
Jersey Shore Grinch
11:13 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
There you go again. More attorney-speak. Deflect and misdirect. Protection is an issue that is well above you and any municipality. That's a given. Your personal actions are not. No denial on the Martell's debacle that you robbed the volunteers of their rightful recognition by your ego-centric selfishness? Unless you do I guess it is fair to assume that you have come to the correct decision that you exercised some narrow minded decision-making that you like to have a "do over" with. You don't have to address it further with me. Focus your next response on addressing the volunteers. They are the ones that deserve it.
Jersey Shore Grinch
11:26 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
..and keep this in mind. You'll be around for awhile, Mr. Mayor, but you will be poison to any of your chosen candidates in November. Better make sure you pick a volunteer as a candidate, otherwise, he/she will be shunned by the volunteer voter and their families and friends. Bad decision personally, professionally, politically and most importantly as a supposed friend, neighbor and supporter.
Vince Barrella
11:42 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Not taking the bait so stop wasting your breath. I ask again, on the question of what is being done to protect PPB, were any of you at the Council meeting on Tuesday evening?
Nick Carraway
11:56 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
I was there, just long enough to find out that the ordinance which I thought was the ordinance designed to allow PPB to adopt the FEMA maps, got pulled from the agenda.
Spooner
12:09 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Mayor- I posted a comment above about your Council meeting and one of your supporters response(what was important at that meeting) that he wrote about in the Ocean Star...
Vince Barrella
5:40 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
NC:
The ordinance dealing with the FEMA maps is a model ordinance that has been dictated to us for adoption by Trenton. That ordinance was not released until shortly before the council meeting. It contains introductory language that extols the virtues of the map, and it is questionable whether we should include that introductory language. As to the substantive part of the ordinance we do not have much choice.
The ordinance, and it was simply a memo from our engineer embodying the results of a meeting with representatives of the zoning board, planning board, building department and council members on January 29, that was on for consideration dealt with height, setback and lot coverage issues flowing from the State's mandate that the map govern rebuilding. The actual ordinance has to go to the planning board after it is introduced, and the earliest planning board meeting was scheduled for March 6. Therefore, the ordinance will be on for introduction on February 19, and if introduced will then go to the planning board for consideration on March 6 with the final adoption being scheduled for March 19. The introduction and approval of the model ordinance should follow the same time schedule.
I explained both of these points at the council meeting. I guess you must have missed the explanation.
WHY?
11:57 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Ok, I get it. You can't tell me how any of this benefits the people of PPB, because it doesn't, and even a lawyer from Brooklyn can't make it look like it does.
Jersey Shore Grinch
11:59 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
More of the same misdirection. Keep your focus on the issues that you can control. You can't control a federal and state issue. You're just a little minnow in the big sea when it comes to the bigger issues. Your refusal to acknowledge that you did not make a good decision in the Martell's matter just gives greater credence that you are motivated by self centered gains and could care less about others. You can keep trying to avoid it but the more you do the lesser of person it shows you to be. I feel only sadness for you.
Part Timer
1:10 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
A Resident, Below is the link to the raising of Belmar Lake...
http://haleybehre.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/9-20-lake.pdf
A berm is not a wall, it is a couple of feet (like a sand dune) around the lake that you can use as a planter to beautify. No one is saying to close off lake Louise.
Sea wall... Yes a Higher sea along the inlet. Does anyone know if the water went over the PP canal sea wall.
And Yes, FEMA will take into consideration everything that has been done to protect future flooding, Dunes, Berms, Sea Walls etc.....
If other towns are willing, why aren't we.
By the way, I still haven't seen or heard anything with regards to the future protection of PPB.
Mike Corbally
2:51 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
I know dunes are being seriously considered, although the proportion of private beaches may be an obstacle. Sea Walls have also been talked about, but they don't seem to be the answer we hear most. I don't feel Berms around the lakes would have prevented much of the Sandy Damage. Most areas saw a large amount of sand debris left behind which didn't come from the lakes. Their are more than a few residents and experts discussing various approaches of mitigation for PPB.
Jersey Shore Grinch
3:16 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
You seem to often respond to selective issues. What's your position on the Mayor's dustup with Martell's over the chamber of commerce event?
Nick Carraway
3:47 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Councilman Corbally, thank you for giving us at least some information as to what is being considered with regard to mitigating future flood damage. The link provided by Part Timer refers to the possible dredging of the Belmar lake. I know that Lake Louise and Lake of the Lillies were dredged within the past few years. Can you tell us what type of damage Sandy did to those dredging results? Have we gone back in time with regard to the two lakes as a result of Sandy? Also, you said that there are more than a few residents and experts discussing mitigation approaches. Are these meetings open to the public?
Mike Corbally
4:21 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
I know their have been meetings with Congressman Smith's office and the mitigating representative for our area from the Governor's office. The Mayor personally attended many of these meetings and updated everyone at the last Council meeting. The meetings held January 29th at Borough Hall were attended by our professionals, environmental experts, the Mayor, 2 Councilmen, and some residents. it was open to the public.
Part Timer
5:37 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Mike Corbally,
Not sure how you could even say or think that berms around the lakes would do nothing. Arnold ave gets flooded even during a mild rain storm. Adding a berm would prevent that, which could have been done when the sand was sitting there.
Stop trying to only think about this summer and the tourist and start thinking about the future and the residents.
A Resident
6:12 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Part Timer, more water runs into the Little Silver Lake at many times of the year then runs out of the lake and causes flooding. If you berm the lake up...that water will no longer be able to run into the lake and the streets will flood more. Berming the lakes, in PPB, won't help...it will cause more problems.
Part Timer
6:34 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
A Resident,
Doesn't that call for better storm sewers. Where is the infrastructure in this town...
A Resident
10:24 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Part Timer....better sewer system? That would probably help. Is it economically feasible to tear up a majority of the streets in town and replace the system? Don't know. Fairly sure that FEMA would not reimburse that cost. Would the majority of town residents be in favor of the tax increase needed to pay for that? Don't know. I know there was talk in the not to distant past about the interconnect sewer between Lake Louise and Little Silver Lake. Even heard some discussion on running a line from Lake Little Silver to Lake of the Lillies. Again....not sure that is a "reasonable" project.
Mike Corbally
3:26 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
The Mayor was told in writing he would not be permitted in the premises. Since the Mayor of PPB (like him or hate) has always sworn in the new Chamber Officers and was asked to present the awards to the First Responders (as the Mayor) I believe Martell's over stepped their bounds as the catering hall. I may not like the President but I will always respect the office. I try not to respond to idiots. Oops.
Mike Corbally
10:49 am on Sunday, February 10, 2013
Part Timer,
I said I didn't feel much of the damage Sandy created would have been prevented by berms around the lakes. I am trying to learn as much about mitigation as possible. I have similar elevation, flood insurance, mortgage, non-raisable home issues as many others. Different people with varied levels of knowledge on the subject give different answers. The only concrete example I have seen is to look at the FEMA flood elevations in Sea Girt where dunes are built and where they stop. It clearly goes from an A to V zone where they stop.
Steve
11:34 pm on Sunday, February 10, 2013
Why would the Chamber of Commerce have Martell's cater a party when they know there is bad blood between Martell's and Pt. Beach to begin with...They must have been aware of the fact Martell's is suing the town of PPB for the PP that every town has a right to place.
WHY?
3:38 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Mr. Corbally I understand how Vince Barrella's decision to publicly complain about Martell's excluding him served your political agenda, and I understand how publicly complaining made Martells look bad, but can you tell me how any of this benefits the people of PPB?
Jersey Shore Grinch
3:47 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
What was more important; maintaining a longstanding tradition of swearing in chamber officers that means very little to most residents or recognizing community volunteers for their service during a once in a lifetime emergency? Are you suggesting that it had to be an all or nothing proposition? The mayor either presents the awards of no one does. If that's not self-centered I don't know what is? That reaction is usually reserved by small children or those with challenged personalities. By the way, be careful who you address as an idiot. You know, the pot calling the kettle black or people in glass houses.....Even if that is not the case, the fact that you are defending this empty suit suggests a lot about you beyond your shattered house. You are obviously made for each other.
Gotcha
4:12 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
The mayor not wanting to respond to the question about ruining the event speaks volumes. He waited until the council meeting on Tuesday night to bring it up so he could stir the pot as much as possible as close to the event as possible. This is what this small man does. He sits in his water soaked basement and plans his every political next move that he thinks helps him. The fact that he would not contact Dave Bassinder privately to try and work things out tells alot about his personality or what he cares about. The chamber wanted to honor the hard working folks in this town that truly deserved it and the event really didn't need Vinny Barrella, but Vinny didn't care about that. And by the way the mayor has not "always" sworn in chamber officers. Don't believe everything Mike Corbally posts !! And while I'm on Mike Corbally, his decisions and actions in the past have been , well, I'll be nice and leave it as suspect and clouded. He ran as a person that wanted to come in and "clean things up " and create a better atmosphere on council. He has done the complete opposite ! These jokers time is up in November and there is nothing they can do about it. Tooker and Corbally are finished. I believe Stu Fisher could beat either of them at this point. And by the way, Dave Bassinder has every right to turn Vinny away and he certainly had due reason.
Vince Barrella
5:43 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Were you at the council meeting?
Gotcha
7:17 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
yes and what does that have to do with anything I said Vinny.
Nick Carraway
8:51 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Mayor Barrella, I'm not sure why you felt the need to leave me a lengthy post explaining why the ordinance was pulled, when all I did was respond to your question as to whether any of us were at the Council meeting, but this now brings me back to my comment that we are grossly behind other towns. As usual, you seem incapable of explaining things without putting your own personal spin on it. I have several family members who own property in other flood-ravaged towns. I've been to Council meetings in other towns, as have some of my family members. The model ordinance is exactly that...a model. The State is not dictating to you, but it is providing you with "model" language to help towns know what is needed. Residents cannot apply for certain grants until the town adopts the FEMA map. If you look at Lavalette's website, you can see that they've already introduced an ordinance. Similarly, if I'm reading my Patch articles correctly, Pt. Boro introduced an ordinance back in January. According to our website, there was a PPB planning board meeting scheduled for February 6, the night after the Council meeting. Now, residents will have to wait another 1 1/2 months for you to adopt an ordinance. Residents need to rebuild, and they need to know how high they can rebuild. Every zoning ordinance needs to go to the planning board for review. Didn't you know that, after 6 years in office as the Mayor? If you don't understand, please learn it ASAP so that we can move forward.
A Resident
10:26 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Aren't many of the residents of those towns that adopted the guidelines also fighting the guidelines and asking their towns to fight them as well?
I know Pt Boro residents are in an uproar about the guidelines and have started petitions and letter writing campaigns. Maybe holding off could be a good thing?
Nick Carraway
11:39 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
A Resident, from what I've read, those residents of other towns who are fighting the new FEMA maps are fighting the "V" zone designations. The "V" zone designations are the most restrictive and, for many, the most difficult to accomodate. If you look at the Pt. Beach FEMA map, the town's V zones are around the perimeter of the town. If our residents in the newly designated V zones are interested in fighting the FEMA map, then I don't have a problem supporting them, but at this point, it doesn't seem like that's an issue. Also, I don't think that there's anything to stop the Governing Body from deciding setting appropriate guidelines for height and elevation in the other zones, which would allow people to move forward with reconstruction.
Vince Barrella
3:29 pm on Sunday, February 10, 2013
The model ordinance came in less than 24 hours before the council meeting. It was not a suggestion but a directive. I am well aware of the need to refer zoning ordinances to the planning board, which is the reason we pulled the ordinance you mistakenly thought dealt with the adoption of the ABFE map.
Flood damaged and frustrated
9:10 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
This Governing Body hasn't adopted any ordinances to help residents rebuild since the end of last year. That ordinance was introduced by Lurie. As good as it was, the FEMA flood insurance issues have made it pretty useless now for those who were more than 50% destroyed. The Mayor has used our tax dollars for lawyers' fees to defend useless lawsuits, but doesn't seem willing to spend our tax dollars to learn the things we really need right now, like what ordinances need to be passed to help the residents rebuild their homes and comply with FEMA. Of course, we're the same town that stopped offering residents free pick up of flood damaged materials back in early December, when it's clear that many other towns were still offering it. Bring back Lurie so that at least someone on the Governing Body will know what to do to help the residents. Please stop this bickering over things like the feud between the Mayor and Martells and the parking plan and focus on the things that the people of PPB really need to get back in their homes.
A Resident
10:28 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Anybody who is removing flood damaged goods beyond December created a recipe for disaster in their home. That was 2 months after the flood and the amount of mold that would have grown by that time would render a home uninhabitable.
Bring back Tim Lurie? That's funny. Nice guy, but terrible councilman.
Nick Carraway
11:32 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
A Resident, I'm disappointed by your insensitivity to fellow residents who suffered damage from the storm. While you are correct about the problems associated with delay and mold build-up, there were many residents who did not have the financial means to take the proper steps to empty their homes quickly. While there were groups like our own high school football team, who were willing to help people, communications were not good, and it took a while for some to learn about these volunteer groups. In addition, if you drove around D4 and D3 during the weeks following the storm, you'd see that the garbage was in waves, much like the storm, with household items and appliances first appearing, followed by sheetrock and wood flooring, followed by bathroom fixtures, and then sometimes more household items, as people realized that more damage had been done then originally anticipated. I think that there were many, overcome by grief and confusion, really could've used the additional time.
Jersey Shore Grinch
10:23 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Lurie can take care of two things for the price of one. Nobody is more knowledgeable than he on engineering matters. You can't deny him that. He can also smooth things over with Martell's since he has been on the Bassinder payroll for engineering services for quite some time and they seem happy with him. While he is on recall, maybe he can also do something about the town funding the chamber with tens of thousands of dollars for advertising since it doesn't seem that will be able to do anything constructive with it. They have such a lack of direction and focus they will probably be marketing the town as a ski lodge. While we are at it, and in the spirit of bi-partisanship, let's get Hennessy, Cervino and Dyer back and really destroy what's left of the community. Until there is real leadership motivated by the desire to serve the community rather than self the only difference between the Beach and Keansburg will be the classier town will be located in Monmouth County.
Cindy Lou Who
8:34 am on Sunday, February 10, 2013
But, of course, you can’t point to a single action taken by Mr. Lurie in his many years as a councilman, over two different terms, that was motivated by anything other than what he thought was right for the town he loves, can you? I’ll take someone who is accomplished and connected, even though there will be some small minded people who think there is something vaguely wrong with the connections, over those who form the Barrella block, motivated by ego and personal vendettas, any day.
Steve
11:52 pm on Sunday, February 10, 2013
Hahaha...Your funny!! Usually the small minded people is those who is connected, motivated by egos, personal vendettas and corruption.
PuPPeT WAtchER
9:29 am on Sunday, February 10, 2013
Grinch- Lurie was a good councilman. Unfortunetly, you support the likes of Korbel-ly, Tookerella, Flash Gordon, and Vincanity wince egomaniac Barrella. These four could easily be replaced by Charlie Sheen, Barbie, Capt America, and the joker and it would be a vast improvement !
Steve
11:58 pm on Sunday, February 10, 2013
Hahaha...This town gets everything they deserve...Clowns, warped people and a bunch of fools rolled together to make the greatest circus and show on earth.
Jersey Shore Grinch
9:47 am on Sunday, February 10, 2013
Be careful what you wish for. People who are satisfied with the means justifying the ends are the ones that scream the loudest when they find that their so-called savior overstepped their boundaries well beyond what was initially acceceptable. Everybody thought Ritacco was a financial genious and a tax savior. They tolerated his personal extravagances until they got excessive. Those that praised him the most become his biggest damning critics. As to Lurie doing everything out of his dceep love for the town that is just a lot of sentimental nonsense. His love was deepened by opportunity.
Steve
11:59 pm on Sunday, February 10, 2013
Exactly...It comes down to agendas and opportunity.
Cindy Lou Who
9:57 am on Sunday, February 10, 2013
But, of course, you still haven't pointed to a single action taken by Mr. Lurie in his many years as a councilman, over two different terms, that was motivated by anything other than what he thought was right for the town, because you can't, can you?
Jersey Shore Grinch
10:01 am on Sunday, February 10, 2013
Be real. Lurie was a giver and a taker. No more. No less. Don't make him out to be Mother Theresa. Has he volunteered to assist the town in the storm aftermath when we really need his engineering genius? I don't think so. Where's the love? As far as being a Barrella fan, you need to awaken from your coma.
Jersey Shore Grinch
10:08 am on Sunday, February 10, 2013
How was him representing the Bassinder's while he was a councilman a positive for the town? Where there's smoke there's usually fire.
Cindy Lou Who
10:25 am on Sunday, February 10, 2013
Right. You can't point to any action he took as a councilman that was motivated by anything other than what he thought was best for the town because the improper motives are all in your imagination because "where there is smoke there is usually fire." Pathetic
Jersey Shore Grinch
10:31 am on Sunday, February 10, 2013
Voting on issues that directly involved his private client is not an issue for you? You are obviously infatuated with him. Send him a Valentine's card if you want but he'll probably only be moved if there is a check or a referral business card in it. Speaking of pathetic.
Cindy Lou Who
10:56 am on Sunday, February 10, 2013
If there was any substance to any of your musings do you think Barrella would have reported it to the DCA? In a heartbeat! Think he would have told us about his complaint to the DCA? In a New York minute.
Give me one vote where you think Lurie voted differently that what he personally thought was right. Bar Closings? Think he WAS right on that. Parking Plan? Ditto. Got one? Didn't think so. I think I hear the Rolling Stones----"Just my imagination running away with me.......
Jersey Shore Grinch
11:47 am on Sunday, February 10, 2013
Oh, I get it. First, you would like me to place myself in the mind of Lurie to determine what his thought process was when he voted in favor of his influential client and family. That's easy to do, isn't it. Only if you are delusional. You really are smitten by him, aren't you? Secondly, your logic that there's no substance to Lurie's actions because, Barrella, the person you loathe, and maybe rightfully so, has not reported the ethical violation to the DCA suggests that no one else has. Initial complaints to the DCA are confidential anyway, I believe. Only confirmed complaints are available to the public. How do you know that a complaint has not already been made by someone else and is pending? Send the guy some flowers, would you please, get together with him and answer your own question of what was/is going on in his own head. With your thought processes you must be a party or club official so maybe you can convince to come back. He's done it before. We do need his engineering smarts. We don't need his poor judgment.
Steve
12:05 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
These post are a riot...they get funnier as I continue to read them all.
Jersey Shore Grinch
12:52 pm on Sunday, February 10, 2013
Hey Vinnie. You probably thought we forgot about you. Not a chance!
Mr. Happy
1:58 pm on Sunday, February 10, 2013
Hey ppb1955, you should really consider getting a hobby!
Nick Carraway
2:33 pm on Sunday, February 10, 2013
I am so tired of hearing this "conflict of interest" nonsense. We live in a small town. People work for and with one another. People in private industry end up with a whole variety of clients, but that doesn't mean that every time they do something, they have a conflict of interest. Using this logic, the only people who should ever sit on our Governing Body are public employees, retirees, and people who just moved into town. We have one those new transplants on our Council, and he has trouble figuring out where are streets are located. Should we get to see a list of all of the people that Corbally has helped to find homes or sell homes? Give me a break. Now, if, for example, Corbally is helping John Smith to sell his home and, while he has that contract, John Smith comes to the Council to ask for something, that would probably be a conflict of interest. But, if the contract with John Smith is over, then the conflict is over, too. Grinch, if you think that the town could benefit from Lurie's engineering smarts, then ask yourself why Lurie wasn't asked to serve on the Planning Board or Zoning Board or some other ad hoc committee that the Mayor has formed? And, really, why would Lurie agree to do that with people like you who regularly want to accuse him of engaging in a conflict of interest? If the Borough Attorney says that it's not a conflict, then other non-lawyers should stop trying to pervert the law. All of this nonsense is only hurting PPB.
Steve
12:10 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
Please, plenty of "conflict of interest" that is going on that shouldn't. Small town... Big town....really no difference. It is what it is....That new transplant is learning from the best. He is in line with all those good ole boys club and acting like one too.
Jersey Shore Grinch
5:22 pm on Sunday, February 10, 2013
If you have to explain ethics and morals to someone you are wasting your time because they are never going to get it anyway. You either understand it or you don't. You obviously do not. Private people servicing private clients are none of our business but if you can't restrain yourself from peddling influence in a mile square town while actively serving the public then, yes, you should not be an elected or appointed official. That leaves you 500 more towns to peddle in which is plenty and is certainly not a restraint of trade. Lurie peddled his wares while he was on council, not before or after. Show me where the town attorney cleared Lurie of any possible conflict in advance and I'll send him a Valentine's Day card along with Cindy Lou Who. Chances are you are a present or former politico and you don't like the restraint since it is/was an affront to your yearn to personally capitalize on your new found power and influence. You've got it all wrong. People like you are hurting PPB.
Steve
12:12 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
Exactly.
Nick Carraway
8:03 pm on Sunday, February 10, 2013
Jersey Shore Grinch, so then, what is your opinion of Barefoot Realty sending out postcards to PPB homeowners during the past year, offering to sell their houses? Do you feel that is also unethical since Councilman Corbally is a principal of that company? What do you think of the Barefoot Realty website advertising that one of its member is a Councilman? While we're at it, I'm sure you know that, years ago, PPB had a Councilman and then a Mayor who was a local barbershop owner. He cut the hair of many local residents on a regular basis. Was it unethical of him to serve as an elected official considering that so many of his clientele were locals and he was "peddling his wares" locally? Personally, I think that these individuals have the ability to separate their business interests from their official responsibilities, and that perhaps their business relationships at times give them an advantage in making good decisions for our town, as compared to people who simply "drop from the sky" and run for office. I notice that you didn't respond to my comments about whether you'd like to see a list of all of Councilman Corbally's customers. Maybe your real problem is that Lurie had a business relationship with the owner of Martells, not just any business in town, and that because you dislike the boardwalk businesses, you want to create a problem where there isn't one?
Steve
12:15 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
Right... Separate? I don't think so....More like influence the outcome.
Jersey Shore Grinch
2:33 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
The ethical slide down the slippery slope doesn't start with an elected official's chosen profession or employment but with what he/she does with their elected position to enhance their professional position. Every elected or appointed official has an absolute right to earn a living. Anything wrong with Corbally advertising his business? No. Anything wrong with him advertising that he is a sitting councilman? If that is true, you bet there is a problem and he should stop right away because of the appearance that securing his services may result in a greater benefit to the customer through his official position. Any problem with Jack Pasola servicing his customers? Of course not, especially since his business was/is in Point Pleasant. But, in either case, if, while serving the public in their elected capacity it became apparent that they were being placed in a conflict position by prior business dealings, all of which can happen, what are they supposed to do? Pretty simple even for you to understand. Disclose the conflict to the attorney and council and seek guidance. That's called ethical transparency. Your suggestion that human beings have the ability to separate their business interests from their personal interests is laughable. I don't have a problem with the boardwalk businesses. It just so happens that's where the big money is and where the ethically-strapped vultures circle over until finding a financial carcass to swoop down on.
Mike Corbally
9:46 pm on Sunday, February 10, 2013
I have recused myself when any business client or personal friends have had an issue before the council, planning board when I served, and BOA member when I served.
Jersey Shore Grinch
2:37 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Carroway: If Corbally's representation is accurate, that is the way to handle it. I'll leave it to you to decide if he is being truthful. One thing is for certain. Corbally will never be able to maintain that he was unaware of a potential conflict situation in the future because he is direct with his response. Shucks, even Reid is aware of how to handle conflict situations. You can't possibly be suggesting that he is smarter than Lurie, are you? You can love Lurie all you want. That's your prerogative. But, what he did was wrong and trying to justify it in the name of "business as usual" is troubling and dangerous for the community.
Karl
10:01 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
The new norm is for towns to rip the residents off. How dare you ask questions and expect honest answers.
Nick Carraway
4:00 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
I just copied this from the Barefoot Realty website. It's under the tab "Who is Barefoot?" I have omited one paragraph, to comply with Patch posting restraints:
"So a councilman, an Italian Ice guy and a film producer walk into an office…
…and we end up figuring out that this town could use another Real Estate Agency. And we’re just the trio to do it!...
They bring a varied background into the Barefoot office. Kim has built a film production resume that includes work on The Departed, The Interpreter and Public Enemies, among others. Mike has been a successful business owner and is a current PPB councilman. Doug grew up in Long Branch and has worked..."