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Cortes and Reid Win Point Beach GOP Primary

Challenger Loder loses

 

Republicans Andy Cortes and Stephen Reid won the Point Beach GOP primary on Tuesday night, according to the Ocean County Clerk's website.

Cortes, who has never been on council before, was the top vote getter with 514 votes or nearly 40 percent of the total of 1,296 votes cast.

Reid, who lives on New Jersey Avenue, received 471 or about 36 percent of the total vote.

George Loder, the lone Republican to run without the backing of the local Republican party, received 307 or about 24 percent of the total vote.

Loder, who lives on Atlantic Avenue, had been appointed to council in 2004, but then lost his election bid to Corbally, a Democrat.

Cortes, who lives on Washington Avenue, could not immediately be reached for comment.

Ironically, both Loder and Reid said they did not believe the results were a referendum on where the candidates stand on the controversial ordinances calling for earlier bar closings and restricted overnight parking in District 4.

Reid and Cortes have been against the ordinances and Loder has supported them.

"I lost, but our cause didn't lose," said Loder. "I wish Andy and Steve well. They beat me fair and square.

"There are a lot of powerful people who are not in favor of what I believe in and there are a lot of people who are in favor who didn't come out to vote," Loder said. "I'm disappointed I didn't get more support in District 4. I lost in District 3, where Andy lives, and I held my own in the other districts. In District 4, it was a close election."

District-by-district results were not immediately available.

Loder said he, Mayor Vincent Barrella and councilmembers Kristine Tooker and Bret Gordon are backing Tom Davis who filed on Tuesday to run as an Independent in the Nov. 6 election.

Also facing off in that election are Democrats Sharon Cadalzo and Barry Moffett, vying for seats now held by Reid and Democrat Tim Lurie who is not running for reelection.

Loder said he felt the turnout was low for a town with about 3,400 voters, 2,840 of whom are Republican and unaffiliated.

Reid also said the primary results were not a reflection of public sentiment on the controversial ordinances.

"They saw Andy and I had a positive plan and they think it's good," Reid said. "They see someone who made promises and who is following through and I think you saw that tonight. These numbers are very big numbers for a primary, we're very happy with them."

When asked what he thought of Cortes besting him, Reid said, "I think it's great. Andy's great."

Related Topics: Point Beach, Primary, and Republicans

beginning of the end

9:31 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Well the results are in and the outcome is telling of what the people want and who they are fed up with. This is the beginning of the end for the Barrella bloc. First Reid and Cortes take care of business tonight. They will roll in November. Then next year comes the bombshell. Corbally and Tooker will have to run as independents against guess who ?? I'll keep you all guessing on that. This is a great night for the Republicans and this town in taking the first step to regaining our once proud and beautiful town. All the misfits with the Loder signs better brace for a huge turn around in the next two years. After next year it will be Barrella and Gordon on an island !!

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piecekeeper

12:22 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

boftheend, really? 307 misfits residents versus 471 double dealing liars and 514 unscrupulous residents and a partridge in a pear tree. This is a primary election. I would not count your chickens before they are hatch. Congratulation to Mr. Reid and Cortes on the primary election. Looks like Reid will win along with Tom Davis and Cortes will be bounced out again.

Spooner

10:04 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

...good news from Wisconsin. . .Walker Wins according to CNN and FOX projections. . .Public unions unable to recall Governor

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Mr. Happy

10:20 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

OMG, I agree with you Spooner!-Walker winning in Wis. is big.
Congrats to Reid and Cortes for winning and Loder for having the courage to run, knowing what he would face. Kudos to all who entered the arena.

007

10:26 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Denise DiStephan: The subtitle of your article is incorrect. It should say "Challenger Loder loses for [the] THIRD time." He also lost to Tooker and Cervino in the 2010 Primary election. Please do better background research and publish ALL the facts ma'am. Thanks.

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Cathy Kelly

11:14 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

She probably should get that straight because she will have to use the same subtitle about Reid in November haha

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the negotiator

11:22 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Cathy Kelly---You're a sore loser. Just sayin'.
Where's the congrats to tonight's winners? haha

the negotiator

11:01 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Where are all the haters now? Cathy Kelly? Vanessa Rudd? Corbally? Barrella? Seems they've scrambled away---just like the rats when the lights go on.
CALLING ALL HATERS: Come out, come out, wherever you are---your silence is deafening! How about we hear this from you now: "Congratulations Mr. Reid and Mr. Cortes!!!!!" Even Mr. Happy has the guts to say it----LMAO

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Cathy Kelly

11:13 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

haters,now that's funny.....I'm not sure if you are aware but it is only the primary election haha...November will tell who will be elected,,,I'm not worried at all,,trust me!!!!

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Uranus

11:32 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Hey C. Kelly: How'd that spanking feel tonight? Ouch!!!!! Your boy Loder got a real shellacking. Who you sucking up to in November?

Cathy Kelly

11:25 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

negotiator,hahahahahahahahahahaha

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Cathy Kelly

11:37 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

judging by your name,you have not graduated yet so I cannot reply...

Cathy Kelly

11:31 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

I am still laughing over Mr.Reids comments..."I'll probably vote in favor of it which I know sounds silly because it's illegal, but I'd have to do that," Reid said. "I had said I would vote against it, but if it gives the bars the opportunity to stay open later, then I'll have to vote in favor of it................that is just classic!!!!! haha

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the negotiator

11:45 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

You really are a hater. LMAO---haha

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Mike Corbally

12:24 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Congratulations to Stephen and Andy on their victory tonight. I want to thank George for putting himself out there for what he believes in. I look forward to the candidates coming up with solutions for the issues we are facing. The process works. Let's enjoy the summer.

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piecekeeper

12:27 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

To many are getting way to excited for a primary election. Do not count your chickens before they are hatched. It will be an entirely different race in November.

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SoylentGreen

3:20 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Wow, what a bunch of children here.

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Cathy Kelly Wrong about PPB

5:23 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Ms. Kelly---if the problems in District 4 are so bad can you tell me why the majority of voters in District 4 did not come out to vote, and of those that did come out to vote, the majority voted for Reid and Cortes? And if you had a little more experience (or just did a little work researching of facts instead of just spouting your bias) you would learn that there has never been a turnout or a margin of victory like this in any recent primary. That says something about the so-called silent majority in PPB. And what it says is your boy Barrella, and his puppets Tooker, and Corbally and Gordon are done done. They have been exposed and the people have seen through their lies. As for Reid’s quote, if you were not so twisted you would easily see Mr. Reid thinks closing bars is no solution, staying to pay open illegal, but better than closing them. Not so hard when you keep an open mind, is it Ms. Kelly?

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Beach_N8iv

8:21 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

The answer is, as I've been saying all along, quite simple. Squeaky wheels. Get a small handful of VERY noisy people together and they get what they want, if for no other reason just to shut then up. Of course NOW the legal battles begin.

Cathy Kelly

8:18 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

For anyone who is ASSuming that I am posting under an alias,Obviously you have not read any posts that I have made... I would not stoop to that level for anyone so don't flatter yourself..and I guess to reid it is better to vote for something illegal that to close the bars early,like I said,that's funny..

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Cathy Kelly Wrong about PPB

10:06 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Cathy Kelly----What is really funny is that you think anyone, other than a few of the Loder 300, care what you think. The rest of us, based on yesterday, quit listening to you a long, long time ago. A spinning top with no one to watch, how sad.

willy

8:28 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Cathy-would you stop with the denial comments about you posting under an alias. You are losing any credibility you have left to your shrinking email audience. You were puppet watcher until you mistakenly posted a reply under your own name. Everyone knows it and now you try to come across as this out in the open person who doesn't post under an alias. Hahahaha just sayin

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PPBCORUPTION

8:37 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Status que............Just saying.

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willy

8:45 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

PPB- do you mean status "quo " ?

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PPBCORUPTION

8:49 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Status quo.........Just saying

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Laura

9:23 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

I didn't know juveniles were allowed to comment on here? Some comments on here make the Beach seem even nuttier than, I hope, it actually is. It seems intelligence and affluence don't necessarily go together.

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SoylentGreen

1:09 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Small people with no lives, that's all it is

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beachcreeps

5:40 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Big people with no lives, that's all it is.

Spooner

11:15 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

piecekeeper- your wrong on Cortes losing in November! Cortes even got more votes than Reid. . .At this point in time if the election were held: according to election party data provided here, Cortes would win. . .now grant you it's about 5 months to election day and things can change. . .but the issues are drawn here. . .have been from the day they started with Barrella's recall, Christie getting elected, his tool box, the union attacks on elected officials. . . rising property taxes, increasing cost of personnel...your now almost 14% municipal tax coming on August 1st...growing day trippers and partiers, the never ending parking issue. . .I could go on and on? Unfortunately part of the solution lies in Trenton where local town voters have less influence. . .including Barrella?

PS: stop impersonating someone here that your not. . .hopefully 'patch' corrects their software and prevents others from doing that...

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beachcreeps

6:00 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Spooner, Hate to break it to you, there has been several different alias impersonating others that they are not. It has been going on for a while now. It was getting really bad for a while. I guess it is still happening. Someone told me they refuse to post any longer because of this problem. They were impersonating and pretending to make others believe it was them. Pretty low don't you think!!

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beachcreeps

6:19 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

I do agree that most likely Cortes will win. Then again the election party data does not know point pleasant beach very well. Anything is possible. You never know in the beach to many are involved stirring the pot. That includes everyone including those who blame only a few by pointing fingers. The more candidates you throw in the ring the more votes are divided amongst them.

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piecekeeper

11:12 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

@Spooner.... I wanted to prove to you and to many others that anyone can impersonate others alias names to make comments and posting awful and made up statements and pin it on others. They will even try to write exactly like the person they are trying to impersonate to make them look bad or point fingers to whom they want to blame. So be very careful. beachcreeps is right on, it has been happening of a while.

Nick Carraway

11:47 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Congratulations to Cortes and Reid! I believe that options are good, especially in political candidates, and Tuesday's choices were clear in terms of political positions. Primary elections are held to decide who will be the party candidates in November. And, if you follow the national politics, then you know that, once a candidate is selected through the Primary process, no matter how rough those battles may have been, everyone in the party, friends and foes alike, come together to support that chosen candidate. Loder could've run as an Independent in November, like Barrella and Gordon last year. But, he chose to run in the Primary and submit to party guidelines and rules of play. Now he's lost, despite a good fight. So, all Republican Loder supporters...you should now be Cortes and Reid supporters. That's supposed to be how it works. That is what the Vogel supporters did when Barrella beat Vogel in the 2007 primary.

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willy

12:47 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Nick - that is supposed to be how it works except for the fact that Loder is not even a member of the Republican Club and Barrella is not either. They chose to form their own little group of Independents. I wondered myself why Loder even ran as a Republican. Why didn't he just run independent? Loder has already come out in support of another Barrella hack independent Davis. Your right though, he should be supporting Reid and Cortes but the truth is he is not because he is part of the Barrella team as is Davis.

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Mr. Happy

12:56 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

P.S.- That "little group of Independents" includes 2 council people and the mayor.
Add an unaffiliated independent and it becomes what some refer to as the "bloc."
Regardless of November, you all have at least another year and a half of this "little group." Get used to the idea.

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Happy No More

2:24 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Politicans who won by the slimest of margins, and did not, and do not, speak for the majority of the residents----the sooner they, and you, realize this the better for all residents

John57

1:44 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Now that the promises/deals made toward district 4 are well known to all the citizenry and the votes yesterday confirmed it, is it possible to again recall Barrella along with his minions? Tooker, Corbally and especially Gordon. I think the outcome would be quite different this time

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Carl Rove

6:38 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Tooker is finished! She is next to exit from the world of Barella. Her playing games, deceit, and abandoning of the local Republican party, being Vinny's stooge, will all end her less than illustrious political life.

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Uranus

7:57 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Carl or Karl (who cares---CK is irrelevant): I couldn't agree more! Tooker only concerns herself with things that have fur, things that have leaves, and things that don't belong in your trash cans. Her definition of "Going Green" is: To dream up as many silly projects as possible that involve spending Other People's Money (OPM)!!!! You're right man---she's gotta go.

Mr. Happy

7:11 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Carl Rove?? Carl? Honestly, you rubes are starting to irritate Mr. Happy.
KARL ROVE-is that what you meant? Everything you posted becomes null and void.
As to Tooker, look up her record C(K)arl. It's too voluminous to post here.

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Uranus

8:17 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Mr Happy: You don't sound very happy tonight? By your own admission, you are irritated. Rough night last night, ay? So enlighten me. Why should someone's ideas be totally negated---null and void as you say---because of a simple spelling error? You've made spelling errors, so I suppose that means everything you've posted becomes null and void too. Turnabout is fair play, right? As to Tooker, I look at her record everytime I pay my taxes. You're right man-----It's way too voluminous---too much abuse of power and wasteful & frivolous spending of OPM!!!

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Carl Rove

10:33 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

"Happy", Don't tell me what I mean. My name is CARL! You are a pompous know it all under routine circumstances. After last night and you and your Barella followers getting your clock cleaned by the silent majority, you are getting beyond annoying. But then, you probably enjoy that with your perverted attention seeking thought process.
As for Tooker, just wait until voters receive their new Barella/Tooker property tax bills in August! The only thing voluminous about Tooker will be the votes for whoever runs against her next year. If you can't handle what happened to George last night, which you obviously are having trouble dealing with, you will be a basket case if Tooker is foolish enough to run in 2013. She is history Happy!

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007

10:52 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Carl Rove: You're awesome! You rock the house!
Here's a new 007 Rule: Those perverted attention seekers...who enjoy the sparring process...merely for the narcissistic attention they seek...shall hereby be IGNORED going forward. Attention seekers really HATE to be ignored. After all...they thrive on the attention....be it positive or negative attention. Their very existence depends on it, and they need the attention just as much as they oxygen to breathe. How's about we all make a pact to ignore Mr. Happy and Cathy Kelly, shall we? Sounds like an excellent plan!!!!!

Happy No More

7:43 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Obviously yesterday's results have done damage to Mr. Happy and Ms. Kelly's sense of humor

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Cathy Kelly

11:17 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

007 What's the matter,you CANNOT dispute the facts that I posted from 10:29pm so you choose to carry on with rhetoric,how surprising that is.......haha...

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Happy No More

7:38 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Well, now Ms. Kelly we really have been here before, haven’t we?

1. You have no one to blame for the fact that PPB doesn’t have a contribution from the BW to spend on police and garbage except Barrella Tooker Gordon and Corbally who did not even bring the BW 800K offer we all saw in writing to a vote.

2. You may think it is unfair for the residents to fund police and garbage, but in the absence of legislation in Trenton to allow these expenses to be passed on to business it is illegal to do so. Barrella, a lawyer, always knew this. He pretended he could get away with it just to win votes. In fact legislation to include all such fees inside the 2% cap is now law.

3. PPB pays for police and garbage but has the lowest taxes in the County. The reason for that is that the amount we collect from tourists more than pays for police and garbage.

007

9:51 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

ATTENTION ALL LOCAL GADFLYS: BREAKING NEWS ALERT!!!!!
According to Mr. Happy's newly defined Patch rules... all local gadflys MUST remain within the city limits where they reside. The boundary lines have been drawn quite clear. Do not violate them or you shall be sanctioned with strict penalties!
Therefore, YOU...Laura Beeden....are only allowed to comment on Point Boro politics from now on, and you must remove the Beach from your point of focus at once. After all...Happy's Rules. Besides, we already have our fair share of sycophants over here to cover the Beach politics, so we'll do just fine without you. Mr. Happy's new plan will work well for you. It frees you up so you don't need to worry about the Beach anymore, and now you'll have plenty of time to attend to your Point Boro Council Meeting minutes and your Animallovertoo blog. So...OK...just so we understand each other...you stay in the Boro, Laura. We have Wacky Cathy Kelly and Diamond Dave Cavagnaro over here espousing their radical opinions to the Beach folks. I'll even make you a deal...We'll make sure that Cathy and Dave stick to the Beach stuff and don't encroach on your turf in the Boro.
Fair enough?

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Cathy Kelly

10:03 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

007, you sound so intelligent,I bet you worked on that ALL day...haha

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Mr. Happy

10:08 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

007- Excellent! I'm glad you agree with my rules about blogging carpet baggers.
Let's keep everyone focused on their own towns, especially that cultural sodomite Spooner-keep him in the Boro. Thanks for your support!

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007

10:34 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Not so fast, Happy---Don't flatter yourself just yet. I merely re-stated and paraphrased your rules. Where do you read that I agreed, supported, or gave an endorsement of your newfangled rules? 007 now establishes the terms and conditions of Patch posting. No twist and spin allowed, Gumby...Oops, I mean, Happy. Keep it real, keep it factual, or you too shall face the sanctions.

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Laura

10:38 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

At least "wacky Cathy Kelly" and "diamond Dave Cavagnaro" aren't afraid to use their own names. Cowardess isn't really an attractive trait, 007.

Since so many are afraid to use their own names, I really can't be sure which are the sycophants, or possibly you are referring to those that have the temerity to use their own names as sycophants?

I can see that all good Republicans in the Beach are expected to walk in "lock-step" (Another word comes to mind but I wouldn't want to be deleted) and never allowed to deviate from their group's goals. How sad that people aren't allowed to actually think for themselves and voice their opinions without getting ousted from the Republican Organization. Is that like a cult?

007, sorry I don't follow your rules, I follow my own. Thanks for the info on Tom Davis though.

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007

11:11 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Laura Beeden: Being an outspoken, loud-mouth, gadfly isn't really an attractive trait for a lady either, but you seem to wear that role quite well. Funniest thing is...I'm actually a registered Democrat in the Beach. So, I couldn't care less about the Republican Organization or their policies. But leave it to you, Beeden, to play the political race card as you ALWAYS do! It's folks like you that give us Democrats a bad name. Nope...I'm just a lowly someone...who pays very close attention to what's going on. I don't need the attention or the recognition that your ilk craves. Just call me a member of the silent majority if you will. I'm really OK with that label.

Cathy Kelly

10:39 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

007,how about these FACTS,,the taxpayers are STILL footing the bill for the Police and Extra Police needed to handle the tourists and we the taxpayers are STILL footing the bill for the garbage pickup(which is twice a week for a resident)but 7 days a week for the BW (overtime on Sundays pickup)is still being PAID FOR by the taxpayers....how about those facts.....

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Carl Rove

10:53 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Hey Laura, according to HAPPY rules, your not suppose to post here. Maybe he thinks you and spooner should have your own private exchange. Actually, most of us don't care what Happy thinks. You Boro voters/residents are always welcome here in the Beach.

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Jane Reynolds

9:36 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

the boardwalk businessess cart away their own garbage

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Jane Reynolds

11:27 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

what I said was quite clear...please re-read

beachcreeps

12:07 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Beach Politics and posts just gets worse everyday. You are a bunch of adults who are acting very childish. Some that either have or had power who held or hold a political positions at one time in both the beach or the boro is acting very childish.

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Cathy Kelly

9:53 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Jane,are you saying that we don't pick up garbage 7 days down there and that we do not pay overtime on Sundays?

beachcreeps

12:30 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Obviously from reading some of these posts. There is males posting some remarks. Unfortunately I would not consider them to be a gentlemen. In fact I find them to be loud cowardly obnoxious fools and liars who are making our town look bad.

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Spooner

12:57 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Carl, 007,Uranus, etc-more enlightenment to you's taxpayers...Thanks to your Greenies headed up by Ann Lightburn. . .you got screwed when they enacted the "Open Space" tax ordinance there.

Now it gets a little technical, but this is how the Beach ordinance worked when you got reevaluated. . .instead of the tax rate being reduced...it actually went up a bit...but the biggest disaster...was that it was applied to the increased percentage of property assessments. . .For instance: take Barrellas' home...where he was paying about $16 in 2006[the rate was.009 multiplied by the assessment in 100's($1750)... now he's paying about $67 in 2011(.010X$6740)...that's over a 400% increase. Whereas, if the ordinance had been written like the Boroughs...there wouldn't have been any more money taken out for open space tax with the reval change. . . So thank the "green gang" and the politicians for screwing you over!

http://www.tax.co.ocean.nj.us/ContentPage.aspx?ID=eed946df-013d-4ade-abfa-e5c2aab875aa

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Spooner

1:56 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

007,CR, Uranus- the real carpetbaggers in these small towns have been the police. . .Over the decades their unions have been skewing the laws and regulations to their benefit. . . and at the expense of tax payers. Here's a more overt picture of how the true carpetbaggers operated...when 100's of them descended on a Boro Council meeting one night over two years ago...using children, hand bills, mass intimidation(both inside and outside) and fear threats to persuade residents and Council members in attendance. . .that they were going to control the towns budget, at the expense of the tax payers if need be...

http://starnewsgroup.com/weekly/2010/03.19.10/cops_confron_03.19.10_65690.html

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John57

1:17 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Was that when the cops refused to write tickets for 2 weeks until they got their way? Talk about derelict of duty. We really need a police director. Spooner you're more than welcome on the patch.

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John57

1:17 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Was that when the cops refused to write tickets for 2 weeks until they got their way? Talk about derelict of duty. We really need a police director. Spooner you're more than welcome on the patch.

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SoylentGreen

2:36 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Cops, carpetbaggers?? Sound like the attitude of the former council members that shown the door in the last election.

beachcreeps

6:53 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

I feel it is the real carpetbaggers are the politicians and leaders of most organizations. Both private and Public organizations are at fault and stems from greed.

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Happy No More

7:40 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Well, now Ms. Kelly we really have been here before, haven’t we?

1. You have no one to blame for the fact that PPB doesn’t have a contribution from the BW to spend on police and garbage except Barrella Tooker Gordon and Corbally who did not even bring the BW 800K offer we all saw in writing to a vote.

2. You may think it is unfair for the residents to fund police and garbage, but in the absence of legislation in Trenton to allow these expenses to be passed on to business it is illegal to do so. Barrella, a lawyer, always knew this. He pretended he could get away with it just to win votes. In fact legislation to include all such fees inside the 2% cap is now law.

3. PPB pays for police and garbage but has the lowest taxes in the County. The reason for that is that the amount we collect from tourists more than pays for police and garbage.

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Cathy Kelly wrong for PPB

7:46 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Cathy Kelly------When you start crying about how poor PPB residents are, and that they can not afford to pay for the services that are necessary in the summer you expose the problem with carpet-baggers, to steal Happy’s word, like you. You just don’t get it. We have been dealing with tourists in PPB since before you were born, and we know how to do it right. The only reason the last few years have been tough is because dumb arrogant politicians, like your boy Barrella, and the equally inane Hennessey, cut the cops. Now that the cops are back in District4, it is returning to the way it has always been-----and we don’t need carpetbaggers like you and Barrella to fix anything----it is not broke.

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Jane Reynolds

9:40 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

that was the specials budget that was cut....wasn't it??

Cathy Kelly wrong for PPB

8:04 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

And for the record, by definition, Spooner is not a carpet-bagger because he doen't live here----the real carpet-baggers are you and Happy----"people from the North who moved South" ---just like you and Happy!

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Mr. Happy

8:15 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

007- I have to say I like your style. It's been some time since I could read a post without cringing from misinformation and horrific grammer. I'll bet you even know who Karl Rove is. I think we will get along just fine. You mentioned you are a democrat, so I will assume you will be voting for Cadalzo. For the record, I have already endorsed Cadalzo. Welcome to MY Patch, we may have some fun! P.S.- I know it's spelled grammar, it's an inside joke I have with the rubes.

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Nick Carraway

9:17 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Laura, I see that some suspect that you are Laura Beedon from Pt. Boro. If so, please stop posting on PPB political stories. I don't generally have an objection to people posting on these articles, regardless of where they live, but recently, the Ocean Star ran an article about a Nazi swaztika that you had posted on your blog, along with a Republican flier. You were publicly cricitized by Republicans and some Democrats, who you had previously supported, because use of this image is simply reprehensible. The Boro has to deal with you, but PPB should not have to. It is public knowledge that Ms. Cadalzo is Jewish, having filed the prayer lawsuit in the past, and anyone who would so recklessy use any Nazi image doesn't belong in PPB politics.

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Laura

10:16 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Mr. Carraway,

Isn't it wonderful that we have free speech in this country? I happen to agree with Ms. Cadalzo about the prayers at the council meetings. As I'm not attending your Council meetings and speaking at those meetings, the Beach isn't dealing with me. You do know the difference between government and a public AOL news "service", don't you?

Reprehensible are the protected lies sent out as campaign literature.

Reprehensible was Nat Sladkin heading the Chamber of Commerce in the Beach.

Reprehensible are those that ridicule others while posting anonymously.

You, Mr. Carraway, use the term reckless, I use the term satirical. As I am from German descent, I also know, that I would not have been sitting quietly by and watching a psychopath murder millions of people. I don't sit quietly by now and watch the lunatics run the assylum.

So deal with it

Lman

9:28 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

I'm pretty sure the boardwalk has their own private garbage pickup.
Of course they are entitled to 4 cans for their tens of thousands of dollars in taxes.
Once again read the Tourism Study on the Boro website and then tell us about how Point Pleasant No Beach is paying for all this unfairly.
This will require real thought and effort!

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Spooner

11:42 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

...looks like they turned the tables on Wacky/Happy. . .calling him and others "carpetbaggers" Yeah I was going to correct Happy/Wacky. . .but I know how perturbed he gets. . .So now that a lot you have been carpetbagging. . .I guess you haven't milked enough from the town yet. . until you drive the tourists and BW businesses out?

PS: the garbage pickup over at the BW the Mayor was crying about in Trenton...is a little complicated. . .the bungalow's garbage are the town's responsibility. . .from there it gets kind of dicey. You have garbage cans on Ocean, Arnold, etc. those are public streets. . .then there's the actual boardwalk which belongs to the town, with a lot more garbage. The tourist make the garbage, the businesses bring the tourist. The BW does have private garbage pick up. I believe garbage on the beach is their responsibility, along with their establishments. . .Hopefully if you lock out Barrella and Corbally. . . the town could reach an amicable solution with the BW businesses, helping to defray the public garbage costs during the summer,?

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Happy No More

11:51 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Cathy Kelly-----I see you have posted no response to this. Could this be because you know there is no answer?

Well, now Ms. Kelly we really have been here before, haven’t we?

1. You have no one to blame for the fact that PPB doesn’t have a contribution from the BW to spend on police and garbage except Barrella Tooker Gordon and Corbally who did not even bring the BW 800K offer we all saw in writing to a vote.

2. You may think it is unfair for the residents to fund police and garbage, but in the absence of legislation in Trenton to allow these expenses to be passed on to business it is illegal to do so. Barrella, a lawyer, always knew this. He pretended he could get away with it just to win votes. In fact legislation to include all such fees inside the 2% cap is now law.

3. PPB pays for police and garbage but has the lowest taxes in the County. The reason for that is that the amount we collect from tourists more than pays for police and garbage

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Mr. Happy

12:28 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Happy No More- Are you referring to the donation document that had no specifics as to actual payment? Even Stephen "I never read the budget" Reid says and understands that there was nothing to vote on. It was a stall tactic. As Bill O"Reilly would say: "wise up."

Happy No More

12:59 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Mr. Happy---I just knew you were a lawyer!!! There was document necessary. That was just a lawyer making work for lawyers. Withdraw the ordinances and see if they pay--if they do pay spend it on specials----if they don't THEN enact the ordinances. Chance to get the money you, as a lawyer like Barrella, must know the town can't get any other way, including by "document" because that is illegal. Donations are not. That is why Barrella’s threats returned no money. Nobody donates to one who threatens them.

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Happy No More

1:01 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Sorry---should be "There was no document necessary"

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Lman

1:04 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Mister Happy, have you read the tourism study pages 60-63 , conclusions and recommendation ?

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Mr. Happy

1:19 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Lman- Sorry I haven't read it.
Happy No More- Sorry, I'm still not a lawyer.
Spooner- Sorry, I'm not from the north.
I think that about covers it.

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Lman

1:22 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Lol. Yes it does appear to Cover it

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John57

1:25 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

That's what Barrella does. To get elected, proposes things he knows will never get passed, gets the lemur vote, and when the plan gets shot down, says "I tried, it wasn't my fault, but thanks for the votes!"

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Mr. Happy

1:41 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Uhhh, I believe you mean lemming.
You stay with the lemurs, I'll follow the lemmings.

John57

1:32 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

This Caldazo person, Instead of sticking her fingers in her ears, during the prayer, she had the bring in the ACLU. How much did her lawsuit cost the taxpayers? Does anyone think her lawsuits will stop especially if she gets elected?

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SoylentGreen

2:38 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

How much did certain former councilman cost the town by refusing the obey the court order.

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Just the Truth

4:28 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Mr. Common Sense---it actually did not cost the town as much as it might. The ACLU got paid for making the Town stop saying the prayer. Caldalzo said she asked Vinnie to stop but he told her politics would not let him, so she filed suit. As soon as she filed suit the Town stopped the prayer and the Court ordered the ACLU paid. The ACLU got 0 for having the Court say the second prayer the Council came up with was no good, but that arrogant SOB of a Borough lawyer got paid. Didn’t care for that lawyer much, but, except for that silly prayer the Council came up with he won in Court, and he cost a lot less the political hack Vinnie has now costs the taxpayers

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John57

7:34 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Nooooo the lemur vote, smallest primate brain to body mass.

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A Resident

8:47 am on Friday, June 8, 2012

"Caldalzo said she asked Vinnie to stop " - funny how this never came up in all the years she worked for the town...but as soon as she no longer has the job....it's an issue.

Great choice for a possible councilperson.

Spooner

2:35 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Wacky- anything you say about yourself. . .raises questions of fact...since it's not a fact. . .they call that ipso-facto...that's another one of those latin terms from our ancestors. . .It's like putting the horse before the cart. You told us about the cart(not from up north) but we have no way of knowing if the horse is attached to move it (your creditability)?? Personally most of what you say gives me a belly full of laughs. . .that's why I mention if your performing at Uncle Vinnie's Comedy Club.

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Cathy Kelly

7:52 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Just the truth,don't you think your reaching just a little haha...You are blaming Barrella for Dyer and Rizzo continuing to say the Prayer after the lawsuit,,,haha.. cmon,at least have some validity to what you are saying....Dyer and Rizzo cost the taxpayers money,those are the facts no matter how you try and spin it...

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Just the Truth

8:01 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Cathy Kelly. I am actually not reaching at all. I am no fan of Dyer or Rizzio but let's stick to the facts. Outside of legal fees to that smug Borough attorney who skunked the ACLU there was no payment of any kind for what Rizzio and Dyer were doing. The only payment was for the original complaint by Caldazo that the Court said caused the Borough to stop the Lord's Prayer. Just the Truth.

Mr. Happy

3:59 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Spooner, Spooner, Spooner-don't you mean "putting the cart before the horse?"
Lest anyone think I unfairly pick on the Spooner, read his 2:35 PM post.
It encapsulates all things Spooner. You just can't make this stuff up!

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Spooner

5:30 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

...like I said: your funny! Happy-Wacky. . .since you use a moniker... for one- how do we know you live in the Beach. . .and two- how do we know that your not from up North? Maybe you can explain this to us?. . .for that matter how do you know; according to others here complaining about others using their names, that Spooner is who he is?

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Arlene D'Amato

6:59 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Gee Happy. What do you and Vinny and Mike C do in November? Loder is gone.

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Cathy Kelly

8:19 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Just the truth, I know you like to make up your own facts,but these are the actual facts,,,,the lawsuit was originally dropped....
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/12/17/judge-voids-new-jersey-towns-policy-on-council-prayers/

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Just the Truth

8:56 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Cathy Kelly---news reports are not reliable, as your post demonstrates. I have a copy of the Judge's decision giving ACLU 11K in PDF. Judge says, pg. 2. "The only issue that remains is plaintiff's (Caldalzo) amended motion for fees...under the first litigation that was voluntarily dismissed." Like I said, the only payment was for the first suit. Sorry you don't like it, but that is Just the Truth.

PS. If someone can tell me how to post the decision to Patch I will do so, and Ms. Kelly if you provide your e-mail address I can e-mail you a copy.

Lman

4:25 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

I think he meant locking the barn doors after the cart has left.:)

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Mr. Happy

7:38 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Thanks Lman for the clarification. That 2:35 post is Spooner's masterpiece.
He has now officially created more gaffes than Joe Biden, George Bush and Stephen Reid. Combined.

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Cathy Kelly

9:00 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

JTT, I would love to see the file you have.... ck618@comcast.net my email is open to a couple of hundred residents in the beach so I don't have a problem posting it here....

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Just the Truth

9:23 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Cathy Kelly---I sent you the decision. Is the quote from page 2 accurate? Did I understand it correcty?

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Just the Truth

9:26 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

I also sent the decision to Ms. Di Stephen to post for all to see

John57

7:42 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Why didn't Caldalzo file the suit when we had the previous borough lawyer? We change lawyers and all of a sudden the prayer now bothers her and the new guy gets a pay day.

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Just the Truth

8:06 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

That is a good question. Why would Caldazo care which lawyer got a payday?

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Cathy Kelly

8:25 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Just the truth...I'll make it real simple for you................
The lawsuit was dropped when the council agreed to discontinue reading the Lord’s Prayer and have a moment of silence instead. During two meetings this fall, some audience members stood up and recited the prayer during the silent period.

The council then adopted a policy that allows an individual council member to give an invocation “in his or her capacity as a private citizen, and according to the dictates of his or her own conscience.” Some council members chose to make invocations with religious overtones, and the ACLU sued again.

By the way,Kevin Riordan was the attorney not Sean Gertner...

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Just the Truth

9:00 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Cathy Kelly---news reports are not reliable, as your post demonstrates. I have a copy of the Judge's decision giving ACLU 11K in PDF. Judge says, pg. 2. "The only issue that remains is plaintiff's (Caldalzo) amended motion for fees...under the first litigation that was voluntarily dismissed." Like I said, the only payment was for the first suit. Sorry you don't like it, but that is Just the Truth.

PS. If someone can tell me how to post the decision to Patch I will do so, and Ms. Kelly if you provide your e-mail address I can e-mail you a copy.

And I know it was that smug SOB Riordan who was the lawyer, it is Gertner who rapes the town with his bills. Say what you like about Riordan his bills were less that any lawyer in the last 10 years

Just the Truth

9:49 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Ms. Kelly--you there? I just re-read the Judge's decision. Be fair, tell the folks the 11K was for the first suit that stopped the Lord's Prayer, not for the actions of Dyer and Rizzio.

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Just the Truth

11:18 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

The Judge's decision has now been posted by Ms. Di Stephen---thank you for that. The decision says the Town paid the 11K because of the suit filed by Caldazo to stop the Lord's Prayer.

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beachcreeps

6:26 am on Friday, June 8, 2012

The truth is no one knows who is going to win!! With all the twists, turns and drama in the Beach it could be anyone.

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one man's opinion

8:32 am on Friday, June 8, 2012

I agree, anyone NOT endorsed by the gang of four, Barrella Tooker Corbally and Gordon has a chance. Did they endorse anyone other than Davis yet?

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