a pig is the perfect picture for these people, as its worth a 1000 words

Makes my sick... Who is doing the prosecuting? If this is illegal, who will prosecute them? Is the fox watching the hen house? I think they should pay back every cent.

I bet it's all perfectly legal.

Complete story here: http://newjersey.watchdog.org/2012/01/02/5314/

I find it funny how people think taht just because something is "legal" that it is OK.
More crap and this is why the public workers will be lucky to get pennies on the dollar in 10 years from their pensions.

Aren't they taking jobs away from those who would like a job? Like someone's relative.

Another example of liberal unions stealing from hard working New Jersey citizens

1. you are either RETIRED (look up the word in Websters) or your working.....CANT BE BOTH

2. dont you understand how these older pigs have gamed the system against the younger piglets......they have now made themselves MORE valuable because after all those years at the trough, they can turn around for more by saying hey we can save you money on pensions and health benefits (some other suckers are already paying those for us).......its the perfect scam !

i say when the civil war comes, it wont black vs. white or liberal against conservative, its going to be old timers vs. youngsters that they have screwed so badly

Why should you/I care where someone works after retirement ???? They because they can work choose too...so what..They have expertise in a field and let them use it, if the tax payers are NOT paying for benefits, then we save as most already have them.There giving back as far as I can see....Your mad if they do, and mad if they don't !!! Make up your dam minds..already !

Public worker pensions should be reduced in the same fashion for earned income just like Social Security that way no one can complain. If its on my tax dollar darn right I have the right to question it and be upset. Especially with an unemployment rate of 9% and these public workers are taking two incomes averaging well above $100,000/ year on my/our dime.

The system cannot afford this kind of double dipping much longer before the public employees retirement system collapses in many states not just here in New Jersey!!!!!

Also, in this day and age with life expectancies being what they are, no one should be retiring at 49 or 50 and collecting a pension. That's just RIDICULOUS. Maybe they can retire but they should not be allowed to draw their respective pension till 60 or 62.........

Wait, lets say you are a retired law enforcement person or whatever from the State and you collect a full pension. Then you go get a job in municipal Gov and collect a salary on top of that pension. I thought Christe did away with that form of doulble dipping? I am not sure what this article is saying. If you are on a pension from the State, you can also collect a salary from the taxpayer?

I'd like 2 scoops, please.
There is a lot of truth about saving an a second health care and pension costs, though.

How is this different from a school administrator (a public employee) who receives medical benefits then proceeding to receive a SECOND set of benefits (fully paid by taxpayers) via serving on the Barnegat township committee?

Also, how can elected officials who allege they work 35 hours per week as township employees accrue a pension after only 10 years while they work another full-time job?

Wake up, NJ. Your pockets are being picked and it's time to do something about it.

The solution is simple really. Retire from the public sector and stay retired and you can collect your tax payer funded pension. Retire and find a job in the private sector and you can still collect your pension. Retire and then get another public sector job? No public pension until you are officially retired. How is this not a law? Meanwhile, the pigs still eat from the trough.

Where is our illustrious governor Christie. He is only keying into the "little" people ie., hard working state employees and teachers.

So if I worked in the private sector and due to my pension plan rules I was now eligible to retire and collect a full pension at the age of 45, I take advantage of what is owed me. After I enjoy my retirement for a while and then decide to go back to work full time and collect an even higher salary than before, continue to collect the pension I am entitled to you people would care? Grow up people, these former cops are entitled to their pensions and if they want to continue to work somewhere else and yes maybe even pay into a second pension why should you care? Maybe it's actually jealousy you are feeling. Get over it, you could have done the same thing.

How many politicians work for the town, county, state, colleges and various MUAs? The collect salaries from all the jobs and are in the state pension system for each. The law enforcement guys retired or were forced to retired (55 in the SP). Why can't they get another job? They have years of experience in their first career and they bring that to their second. At least they are working not like many of the no show or low show politicians! In the case of the state police retirees they were not in the social security system while in the State Police. In order to collect or have their family members collect after they pass away they need to work in order to get needed quarters in. I have no problem with law enforcement guys getting a second job. Before we throw all the rocks at them look at the politicians who are double, triple and even quadrupling their dipping.

Public Employees of the State of New Jersey who retired from the Public Employees
Retirement System cannot legally re-enter public employment in N.J. under a job title
that would require a new hire to enroll into the Public Employees Retirement System.
By the time a former P.E.R.S. member (now retired and receiving a pension under P.E.R.S. membership would be eligible to join a police dept., he/she would be disqualified due to age. Former police personnel retired under the Police and Fireman's Retirement System OF N.J. can legally be re-hired into a public position not covered by the P&F Retirement System, not be eliglble for the P.E.R.S. and therefore be withheld from joining the P.E.R.S. They can be rehired legally in positions of public employment, but NOT legally as POLICE OFFICERS.

Prior to the legalization of public employee unions in the State of New Jersey (late 1960's), New Jersey's law enforcement people already were being represented by the Policemans Benevolent Association (PBA), although before unions for public employees were legal, lawyers representing police personnel at that time denied that the PBA was, in fact, a union... ( if it walks like a duck, quack.....etc.) in my opinion. Retired law enforcement personnel make up more than 90% of so-called "double-dippers" in New Jersey!! The rest of the "double-dippers" are primarily lawyer politicians - the same ones who have not and will not legislate against police personnel - EVER!!!!!

The thousands trapped and unable to sell their over priced homes
in Ocean and Monmouth counties, are faced with rising property taxes ...
the cap has been a disaster with loop holes and fixed costs that keep our
taxes approaching $10,000 or more ... NO ESCAPE ...
I HAD SUGGESTED A CAMPAIGN WHERE EVERYONE SHOULD PUT A FOR SALE
SIGN ON THEIR LAWNS ... IN THIS MANNER, CHRISTIE AND THE MEDIA
WOULD GET A SOLID SILENT OPPOSITION TO WHAT THIS STATE HAS DONE TO
THE SUCKERS WHO MOVED HERE ...

As a longtime member of the private sector and a reasonably paid manager,
I was never paid a dime in overtime. Never collected sick days beyond the
current year, in my case went some four years without a sick day ...
receive a review every year and based upon performance received what
I deserved and not a dime from any union stacked deck.

The exit plans for those who work in state, municipal and county government
has gone way too long ... Christie has done little to prevent the loopholes
used by his county cronies of unqualified folks ...
The level of government that needs to be eliminated are the FREELOADERS ...
OOPS meant "Freeholders" a gang of cronies if there ever was one.

As long as they are not receiving another Govt. pension or benefits, i see no problem with a Govt. agency hiring someone with 25+yrs of experience for the price of someone with zero experience. makes good fiscal sense to me.. What's missing here is what are these employees doing for their respective agencies?? If it's skilled work that they would normally have to pay two or more times they are paying these retirees i think these agencies are doing the right thing for us (the public) don't you?

Those who yell the loudest about the police getting into another law enforcement position will be the ones who yell the loudest about lack of police protection, drugs, gangs, political kickback schemes and the like. Who do you think investigates these schemes? The years of experience versus no experience is what does the trick. Someone has to be hired to do these investigations. Why not hire someone with 25 years of experience over someone with zero experience?

Take a CFO who is often paid a huge salary, provides little
if any open public presentation of the $$ Millions spent each
month ... when requested he appear at session to present
a summary, our mayor said it would be too costly (overtime
would be required) yet at each session where there are huge
expenses, there is little if any explanation ... simply "paying
the bills" is the comment.
Municipal, County government needs a solid cleaning out ...
I'd love to be present upon their performance reviews??
As for exit expenses, surely they are a reality, but staying
is more expensive ... check out the exit of wealth during 2010
and 2011? Replaced by immigrants and low paying jobs ...
unless you are a connected crony ...

I have heard the reasoning about who would investigate all the crime ...
we are the ones first to cry when crime hits us ...
get real, this crap argument has grown out of reason or sense ...
how about paying for levels of crime ... NYC has brown shirts who
do a huge traffic service and income without huge salaries ...
just as recent article uncovered NJ State Police working road
construction at almost $300,000 for three officers in overtime ...
get real, hire a level of enforcement such as special police
paid a cost saving salary ... never saw a bullet dodged at a
paving of the GSP?

This is what happens when the taxpayers are asleep at the swtich. The same old crooks get elected into office over and over again. The whole NJ legistlature was just re-elected this past November. Did you vote? Too many don't, but you can bet the unions get their people out to vote for the ones backing all these taxpayer funded deals. We're collapsing economically as a country - trouble is on the horizon. Get the right one in the White House this coming November or kiss the US good bye. Toss Menendez & Lautenberg too in November (Menendez care more about illegals than US citizens). Local elections - get informed and toss them if they're not representing the taxpayer.

Helen, you're right!
Lautenberg was elected illegally and is a cadaver with out of touch views and Menendez only cares about illegal hispanic rights!
These 2 have to go or we'll be the last thought in their agendas!

I did not realize that they can start collecting their pensions immediately after retiring. No wonder the pension system is broke!

Retlaw:

So, do something about it ...

Where does it say jist because a petson retires from one job that they cannot take on another? This watchdog group are more envious than productive!

This is the result we get when the fox guards the henhouse. If a person is collecting a pension from the public system he/she should be prohibited from getting a job in the public system. If they want to work, get in line and try to get a job like the rest of us.

All these low lives that is using the system who is getting outrageous pensions have enough nerve to attack individuals who are on welfare, collecting unemployment with one step out in the streets that really need it. Maybe the reason some have one foot out the door is because they are paying for all these greedy individuals that are using the system more than the needy.

@Adolpho, I am sure it doesn't... But it should. It is ridiculous and it has nothing to do with being envious. It has to do with the pension caving in with all these greedy double dippers and over paid peacocks. There will be nothing left for all the small potatoes on the bottom of these pyramid. You must be part of this scam.

Man, makes me think what I could be doing right now if I stayed working for Ocean County. I started working there in 1977, hum, in 25 years I could have retired in 2003 at the age of 47 and just went right back to work in another job for the county.
Would have made a great decision if I had.

Alfred E. Newman for Vice President