Works out best for everyone...
Bars stay open till 2am... residents get some peace and quiet

Refusing to place the ordnance on the pay schedule is absolutely ridiculous. All that serves to do is flood the court with hundreds, maybe thousands by the end of the summer, of people and to further piss off the public.

However, recently, Ron Gasiorowski, who is also one of the attorneys often representing Jenkinson's and Martell's, has submitted briefs on the lawsuit and he was in court on Friday. He had worked on Jenkinson's and Martell's lawsuit against the parking plan.

The lawsuits allege that because the plan allows only residents and local taxpayers to park in District 4's metered spots between midnight and 6 a.m., it violates the Public Trust Doctrine, an underpinning of beach access laws that says members of the public should all have equal access to the waterways and beaches, regardless of where they live, according to the lawsuit.

Are you kidding me... he forgot to mention that all the employees got parking passes. He also forgot to mention they have beach access thru the muni parking lot which is free.

Part Timer, Good one...Mr. Commonsense needs to change his name. Isn't funny how the boardwalk lawyers conveniently leaves out the most important details of the case.. Free parking for all the fisherman and 300 employee passes.... I do not agree with the employee passes,,,,they should have been charged like the rest of the residents who gets a parking pass to park for limited hours in boardwalk area. Let the boardwalk pay for their passes, consider it a benefit for their employees or let them open their own lot at nice that they do not use because of liability.

@night that they do not use because of liability.

Beach_N8iv
Tell me how that wiil happen....Really....
Just another spin to try and scare people...Really....

Wow, isn't funny that knowone is posting on this story...
Maybe you are refusing the read it and are still posting on the old articles...
Maybe there is just no way to put scare/spin on people like Beach_N8iv tried to do when he said that people are going to lose there jobs because of the parking plan...
Really...

Hi Part Timer- Beachknave is correct that some local people will possibly lose their jobs. Of course, they are local to Ireland, Russia and Croatia; but locals nonetheless.
So, technically he is right. Hope this clarifies the matter.

The BW and their employees will say anything. Like someone mentioned on other posts. It is the same thing they did to try to scare/spin the school children and their parents. It is all about scare tactics to keep their gravy train coming and who cares about anyone else who is in the middle. Just like if the BW went away, our town would wipe off the map of Nj....PPB would survive with a lot less corruption. Just maybe the town could concentrate more on what should be done than what is going on now.

Why wasn't a fee put on the ticket?? Crazy having people appear in court for a parking ticket whose idea was that??? As if parking is a crime..I can not believe the absurdity of all this. Having to go to court is insane Who pays for all the court time???

A few years ago, the town put up double stop signs on the corner of Boston and Central (adding two on Central), because of numerous accidents at that intersection. They did this without DOT approval because road change applications take 4 months to review. The council (this is prior to Barella BTW) put up the signs on May 15th put in the DOT Application and then withdrew and took down the stop signs every September 15th. I still go either way on the Parking Ordinance issue, but if the current council is taking a page from the "stop sign" playbook, it may very well be "fact of life" in D4 without a lot of legal maneuvering. Good for D4 Residents? Probably. Bad for Boardwalk Business? Maybe. Only time will tell on this one. According to Mr. Corbally, they are working to eliminate the court appearance for the 12AM Ticket, which is the right thing to do. Hopefully this happens quickly. I'm off to the beach and the volleyball court to hopefully get some playing time in before it gets unbearable. Have a nice weekend.

Grasso is one of the dumbest judges in NJ... didn't you know... (ok... lowest rated)
A career state employee... prosecutor office then judge...
He wasn't a good enough lawyer to get a job at a law firm...

A trial??? What is the fact issue in dispute???

Hi JD- Mr. Happy was going to respond to your 2 postings, but on second thought he has decided to stay moot,,,uh, I mean mute. But folks, check them out. Classics both!

You know it is funny that PPB and the County are predominately republican. Republicans tend to be Advocates for home rule. The towns in NJ have a right to govern themselves and that includes but not limited to traffic, parking, And alcohol.

I guess The Honorable Judge made a decision that may not be popular with The happy Gilmore clan.

But what the heck he is soon to retire and making proper judgements, He has no furhter judical aspirations except having his judgements be clean.

On the other hand we have Political climber @ the ABC who is still climbing and has to give favor as needed by the party! Money talks , BS walks.

Finally... the residents get a break. I found it interesting in Judge Grasso decision that he did not mention the cost associated with going to the beach as a barrier to beach access for the tourists. To get on the beach now costs $9 dollars a person>>plus parking $20 to $25 a day >> $10 dollars to rent an umbrella.I do not think the private beach operators can claim poverty. Just a reminder for those who live outside of PPB that our town does not get one dollar from the beach fees charged but the private beach owners. Congrats! Mr Gertner on a well won victory for the residents of PPB.
George Loder

George Loder. I think I am correct about the town owning the Maryland Ave. beach. Can you confirm that our town does not get one dollar from beach fees in PPB.

ppb1955.. And you sir, Are just another dumb piney from Point Beach!

Lenny
I would prefer the term Clam Digger. For your information Pineys are from south jersey. But back to the subject I believe George Loder is spreading false information once again. I really believe the town derives a certain dollar amount in rental income from Maryland Ave beach. I am not quite certain what the true amount is . I would appreciate if anyone would know the amount.

Although the Maryland Avenue Beach is owned by the borough, Aqua Serve Lifeguard Service leases and operates it. The difference in ownership means Aqua can charge whatever admission fee the market can bear, while municipal operation of the beach would mean the state sets the maximum fee, said Borough Clerk Maryann Ellsworth.

And that’s been a losing proposition for the community.

"We lost so much money running it that we decided at least six years ago to lease out the running of the beach," said Ellsworth, who added that the borough lost from $10,000 to $14,000 annually when it operated the beach...

...more beach history:

...Minutes from the Aug. 16, 1887 meeting of the Point Pleasant Beach Council state "Ownership of the beach turned down by the Council because of extreme cost to the borough for maintenance," according to the Point Pleasant Historical Society. At that point, the council decided to permit privately owned beaches in the borough.

. . .and Barrella complains about the beach money!

http://www.politifact.com/new-jersey/statements/2011/sep/05/vincent-barrella/point-pleasant-beach-mayor-says-boroughs-beaches-a/

Spooner Thanks for the information Vinny Barrella should focus on the Maryland Ave beach. I am going to see how much Aqua Serve pays PPB per season. It may be in the towns best interest to sell the property to a private individual and collect the property taxes. I am sure there are many other issues that are being neglected by Mayor Barrella . He should embrace the revenue centers in town and work with the business in town to bring PPB back to its glory days.

George Loder Wow PPB receives tho thousand dollars per year for Maryland Ave beach and supplies portable restrooms . The town would receive much more in property taxes. And Mayor Barrella wants to buy Risdons beach .The town bought Risdons Parking lot for three million dollars took it off the tax roll and now gets I believe fifteen thousand dollars per year plus a minimal amount in parking revenue.Talk about a losing proposition.

Hi Spooner- I see you are going to look into the Hon. Judge Grasso's rating history. Or something. Please post that info ASAP. Could you also do some research and let us know the final score of Superbowl V, Carl Yastrzemski's BA in 1967 and how many times Lassie barked in episode 6? They are all equally irrelevant and as unimportant. None of them will change the decision. The only number that matters here is 12. As in 12AM. I'm goona give you a headstart on Yas' BA in 1967. It was .326. Thanks in advance.

Mike C. Please clarify your opinion on mandatory court appearances for district 4, after 12:00 parking tickets. Below are two direct responses from you, one very different from the other. Are they your opinions or "fed" responses?

Mike Corbally
11:58 am on Friday, July 6, 2012
I agree the court appearance should not be needed. This is unfortunately, one of the many government issues that should be able to be fixed quickly. We are trying. I was surprised that jay walking and other minor infractions are on the list, and some fines I would think a court appearance should be needed are not. That is not for me to judge though. The court has scheduled a night court session for these fines, but I've been told we may be able to accept payments with certain paperwork. I will give you more info as I get it.
IN THE ARTICLE ABOVE YOU ARE QUOTED:
However Corbally said, "We will not amend the ordinance. We may have night court. It's a pilot program. We will have to work out the kinks after the summer if the council votes to continue the program in 2013."
So, is this the answer we should go with or should we wait for the next "agreed upon" response after the 4 of you have time to discuss? Please let us know.

Hi Spooner.... I think you and all the BW supporters need to ride on the 'TILT A WORLD" Have the bosses get right on that.

TK- ever since the 1980's with the first economic/housing boom which bought Barrella and the others down here...there has been attempted political upheavals addressed at the commercial businesses. In 1987 you had the famous liquor case: A&P vs. Mayor of Point Pleasant Beach...then 1992 another famous liquor case: Martells vs. Mayor of Point Pleasant Beach...more recently there was the White Sands vs. Mayor of Point Pleasant Beach. . .and in 2006-7 there was a continued attempt to redo the Broadway commercial district until the housing market collapsed. Nothing has changed. . .the bennies as there called could well live without the BW bars. . .and although they will play the politically correct game(call it compromise). . .it is what it is!

So TK are you one of them. . .I don't know where your coming from? You seem to imply from previous posts...your connected to PBA. . .Is That Your Point!

Your right I support the growth of business. . .that "Tilt a World" provides for the viability of the state, or do you think the it's all about public sector supporting itself. There was a Tourist Study commissioned by the Beach Government in 2006. It reported that the tourist industry in NJ generated over $424M to the states economy. Now I welcome people to make comments here. . .but please do some reading. . .and the one liners?

http://www.pointpleasantbeach.org/documents/TourismStudy_2007.pdf

For all you residents in support of the parking restrictions, I challenge you to take a ride over to Channel Drive. The fishing industry is on Channel Drive, not Broadway. Look around. Look at the cramped parking lots on the weekends. Then tell me... Exactly how are these hard working folks adversely affecting your quality of life? How is it fair to restrict parking in this area, half a mile from Jenks and Martells?!

Didn't I read on another article a post from Councilman Corbally that 200 tickets had been issued with regard to violations of the parking plan, so that the plan was expected to pay for itself by this week, maybe last? But, if the people who received the tickets have to come to court, were they even assigned a court date yet? Have we collected any of the money from these tickets? One of the biggest problems with parking tickets has always been collecting the fees for them, and that's with tickets that you can send in the money. People have posted about a $48 fine with the tickets. Is that the actual amount, or does that still have to be approved somehow, too?

Mr. Loder, you are correct in that the town does not own most of the beaches in PPB. The town also does not have to pay to clean those privately owned beaches, pay for lifeguards or pay for liability insurance for those beaches. And, those beaches are there year-round, and would be there, regardless of who owned them. Nevertheless, the town manages to make....was it $3.3 million dollars from tourism each year? I can't remember Councilman Mayer's exact figure.

Has anyone else noticed: Barrella supporters, when posting under their real names, never bash the PPB schools or the PPB police; but Barrella supporters who use aliases (Are they the same people?) bash the schools and cops a lot. (See Sam’s posts and Joe’s posts on the article about Barrella’s request for State Police) Since Barrella started as a critic of the schools and the police (and of all things PPB for that matter), and only changed his tune when he needed the cops and school community to defeat the recall, don’t you think it is time for the cops and school community to recognize Barrella and his supporters do not, and never did, have any respect for our schools or police?

You are so right! Sam and Joe suffer from MPD. She has many other aliases that have also trashed our police and schools. Too much Sangria!

Hi Important- Here are some examples from the police bashers from top to bottom: There have been questions about the crime stats released by the Chief, Lt. Dunkin gets regular negative comments here, the integrity of the 2 officers that were decorated has been questioned by those that deny last summer's incident for which they were awarded and even the kids on parking patrol have been referred to as "Nazis." All this from----the Barrella bashers. Try another important question. Mr. Happy will be glad to answer.

More smoke from Happy. . .Bluff...Bluff...Bluff? Remember the Mayor in 2010 said: in order to build up surplus he agreed to spending cuts. . .then the Council cut $100K out of Specials budget...When the sxxt hit the fan last year, they pointed fingers at the BW. . .with Dikun(the political activist in residence) covering the town's rear. This year the BW has hired it's own detectives to keep watch and document where need be...it's patrons leaving their establishments. . .Mayor am I mistaken about your words on the 2010 budget?

PS: Happy. I keep asking this question about the PBA's full page ad in the June 4, 2010 Ocean Star on page 9, which stated:"The Point Pleasant Beach You Know In 2010 Won't Resemble The One You Will Come To Know In 2011". . .What did they mean by that statement??

Hi Mr. Happy:
What Joe and Sam are doing is very different. Some Examples from the postings on the article about Barrella asking for State Police:

Sam 2:26 AM

“Residents can't say anything about the country club police or the schools. If they do their will be some sort of retaliation…Some are going around stating that the police will be giving out tickets to the locals that spoke in favor of the bar closings if their 0/T hours are cut. Some are fearful that something will be planted on them. Residents should not have to live in such fear to speak up.”

Sam 3:24 pm

“My own experience nothing can be said about the schools in general, if a parent or student says anything that is wrong...they will take it out on the kids who parents have complained.”

Joe 9:39 pm “NEPOTISM IS RAMPANT IN THIS TOWN AND EVERY TOWN.....Go connect the dots in School, Town, Police and Boardwalk. You have parents and their kids that work in the schools that is married to policemen that work for the boardwalk too... they are all bloodsucking leeches.”

What Mr. Happy was referring to are the many posts from residents objecting to the way Barrella exaggerates the Chief’s reports, the way Barrella misused and exaggerated Lt. Dikun’s reports, and the way Barrella blew up a fight (as any who have seen the video have said) into a riot. So while the Police are simply pointing out the need to reverse the trend of cutting the police budget begun with Barrella’s coming to power in 2008, Barrella is trying to turn these facts into an indictment of the Bw businesses, and the residents are objecting to this misuse of the police department by Barrella. Sam and Joe, as noted above, are saying something very different.

Hi Important and Spooner- You both spun a bit off topic. My post was a response to the statement that Barrella supporters bash the police here on the Patch. That's all. Mr. Happy doesn't care about school issues or budget issues at this time. My examples are from regular bloggers/haters. Heck, even Spooner's post today is confirmation, with another Dikun smear. Sam is a one hit wonder here who heard about police retaliation, evidence planting, etc. From people at a little league field in Toms River. C'mon please.Look, I know it's slow now and absent any news, we tend to create issues for debate. That's fine. But remember, the only thing standing between us and the barbarians at the gate are the police. On a lighter note (for Spooner), the score on Superbowl V was 16-13. You only need to research Judge Grasso and Lassie now. Thanks in advance.

No one is surprised that a Barrella supporter like Mr. Happy does not "care about school issues or budget issues at this time." That was my point: Barrella and his supporters have only been pretending to care about PPB's schools and police. And we all recognize the style of Joe and Sam and none of them are "one hit wonders" and you know it. Point remains, no matter how much Mr. Happy would like to avoid the point: Barrella supporters are showing their, and his, true colors. They want to remake our schools and our police because they see our school employees and our police, and I quote Sam, as "bloodsucking leeches."

Hi Important- We all know there are bloggers here that use multiple aliases. That's fine. You confirm this by saying "we all recognize the style of Joe and Sam." You yourself (Important Q for now) are not new here, clearly. Your style is recognizable too. Some have been discredited and had to change. I get that and I'm pretty sure you do too (wink). Is it an attempt to create the illusion of more naysayers? Or the VC tactic of hit and run? Sorry, but the constant morphing fascinates Mr. Happy.
It's frustrating too, because there never is enough material to respond too. Thank God for Spooner.

Now Mr. Happy these posts aren't about who bloggers are: who cares. Nor is this post about the paranoia the Barrella supporters exhibit concerning whether all these anti Barrella posters are one or many---again who cares. It is not about how many blog pro or con---it is always about the point the blogger makes. Barralleites like you don't like Patch rules because these rules focus on the message, not the messenger. And we all know how Barrella and his minions like to attack the messenger when they don't like the message.

No, these posts are not about any of that.

These posts are about the fact, which you have yet to dispute because you can't, that Barrella started as a critic of the schools and the police (and of all things PPB for that matter), and only changed his tune when he needed the cops and school community to defeat the recall. The residents now recognize Barrella and his supporters do not, and never did, have any respect for our schools or police. And that, Mr. Happy, is, for you, the uncomfortable truth.

Hi Important- OK. Seems we have exhausted this and just in time, it's almost cocktail hour. Looking forward to future sparring, regardless of whatever heading you post under next. Always, Mr. Happy!

Mr. Happy, since you'd like to stay on topic, can you maybe provide some answers to my questions about the tickets and fines for the parking plan? Do you know whether any of the tickets that were issued so far have resulted in any of the people coming to court, or are those court dates not yet assigned? Is the fine for those tickets $48 or is that still up in the air, too? It's okay if you don't know the answers to these questions. Just let me know. Thanks.

Hi Nick- Pretty sure the fine is $48. Come to court and lose (almost always) add court costs. Not sure that expense. Too early for court dates. I believe there is a Sept. eve court session planned. Punish the deserving? Oh yeah.

Hi Important- Thanks for the update on Sam. Hey, BTW, did you ever read Ball Four by Jim Bouton? Great Book. I will now quote a line by the great Mickey Mantle when he rolled up the window on the bus when accosted by autogragh seekers: "Take a hike son."

Hi Mr. Happy---I see the truth stings. I hike a lot, but I take no orders from you. I prefer a quote, originally directed at a misguided self described journalist, just like you, adapted from Robert Zimmerman by me just for you---"There is something happening here, but you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Happy?"

Happy- sometimes you should do as Doctor Evil said...Zip it! Are you sure your not a Barrella clone? But listen you keep writing. . .I'm sure the FAB4 will bestow honors on you. . .maybe even present you with plaque. . .

...but listen: what does questions about...what was it football...or was it baseball. . .have too do with the Judge's injunction ruling. . .maybe you could enlighten us!

...and I think the Marina's attorney, John Jackson's opinion of Judge Grasso and his ruling as reported in the Ocean Star is right on the money. . .sorry if you don't agree. . .or whatever it is...your trying to portray or imply??

http://starnewsgroup.com/weekly/2012/07.13.12/judge_denies_07.13.12_47896.html?featured=*

Hi Important- Ah, but you see, this Mr. Jones does know what it is. And I didn't google it. I'm #1 fan. Ok don't take a hike son. But you are clearly out of your league.
Son.

Hi Mr. Happy-----if you think you’re the #1 fan I can only assume you have been spending too much time with Barrella. Unless, of course, these arrogant delusions of grandeur we keep seeing from you spring from your own tortured soul.

Hi Spooner- I see taxes will increase in your town. I assume you will leave our town alone for a while, whilst you savage YOUR Mayor?
Hi Important- Relax, it's too early for the hate and discontent part of the program. You might try decaf instead. Enjoy the day!

Mr. Happy,

Spooner is arguing with you because his favorite blogging site, boroindependent.com, has been mia since May with no real explanation and only an occasional posting from Cortland. When or if that site starts up again, I'm sure he will be posting his disjointed arguments there.

Sorry to go off topic here but I was away for a few days...
Question, on July 4th I had noticed a GOOD amount of people in town/beach walking around with there pants hanging down past there hips with there underwear showing and was wondering if there is a way the town can put a ordinance in place for indecent exposure?
Other states have put this saggy pants into law...

Hi Melvin U.- You are correct, Judge Grasso is a (R) appointee. A judge at that level is immune to political pressure and free to decide a case on merit alone. And we see how that went. Keep in mind, that will be the scenario moving forward. No longer will these cases be decided by someone that will leave an appointed position when the Governor leaves. This fact must be disconcerting to those who brought the lawsuits.
As to Mr. Gertner having a "Happy party" because he is cashing in. The town will probably tap additional legal help, putting a damper on the "party." Although seemingly outgunned by numbers and resources, he alone won the first go-round. And politics aside, I think even the haters would have to say that Barrella's "hand picked" attorney has shown that he is quite competent. Kinda like how David was competent when he came up against Goliath.

Last weekend I received a parking ticket for no pass displayed. I have no problem paying a normal fine for the violation but Court Appearance Required is very excessive. Now I also lose a day of work and will have to pay court costs. The court date is 9/28. I wonder how many NJ residents are going to get screwed by this?

Hi Beachknave-Why do you insist on calling the college kids, working their way through college, Nazis? I know you don't like the Mayor, but college kids too?
Maybe anger management would be the way to go?