Point Beach Police Chief Defends Lt.'s O.T. Pay
Chief Kevin O'Hara said there are many duties done by Lt. Robert Dikun that cannot be done by lower-ranking police officers
A lack of police promotions has actually increased work demands and overtime pay for Lt. Robert Dikun, Chief Kevin O'Hara told the Point Beach Mayor and Council on Tuesday night.
Dikun and O'Hara are the only two administrative officers in the 21-member department, due to police retirements and no promotions to fill those positions, O'Hara said.
Consequently, Dikun has had a heavy workload since there are numerous tasks that have to be done by an administrative officer, which means a lieutenant or higher, O'Hara said at the meeting.
"Lt. Dikun has been doing a phenomenal job, an excellent job, for 23 years, he's done what he was asked to do," O'Hara said.
The discussion was prompted by Marilyn Burke, a resident on Central Avenue, who asked who authorizes police overtime and was told O'Hara does.
"Why did the chief give Lt. Dikun so much overtime?" Burke asked.
O'Hara said part of the reason is that Dikun's administrative duties involve many that Ocean County, civil service regulations or the state mandate be done by an administrative officer.
"We used to have four administrative officers," O'Hara said.
He said Chief Daniel DePaola retired on April 1, 2010 and Lt. Harry DiCorcia retired on Aug. 1, 2010 and were not replaced.
O'Hara had served as a captain before being promoted. When he became chief, the position of captain was not filled.
"I've been asking council for the past 18 months for promotions, but it never happened and the work still had to be done," O'Hara said.
More recently, Sgt. Richard Otto retired this past December and it has not yet been determined whether he will be replaced.
"The three vacancies cut $400,000 from the police payroll, so paying $70,000 in overtime has us ahead of the game," O'Hara said.
O'Hara has also said council has been receiving police payroll reports regularly and that he had advised them about increasing overtime costs in a number of emails.
O'Hara broadened the discussion to address the overall issue of police overtime, which was $252,575 last year.
He said that has been increased partly because the former Point Beach Council cut a full-time dispatcher position in January 2010, which cost the department $20,000 in overtime.
The position has sometimes been filled with police officers who would have been better used out on patrol, O'Hara said. O'Hara said he can use specials as dispatchers during the summer, but has to use regular officers during the off-season.
There are currently three full-time dispatchers.
Another source of overtime, noted Mayor Vincent Barrella, is the $20,000 spent on police overtime last year because officers had to work long days in Municipal Court in Point Borough's Borough Hall on Bridge Avenue during municipal court sessions.
A shared services agreement entered into by a majority of the previous council and Point Borough moved the Point Beach municipal court location to the Borough.
"That was done without consulting our police department," Barrella noted. And it required that the Point Beach department send officers to the Borough because the Point Beach special police officers do not have jurisdiction in the Borough, Barrella said.
The Point Beach Council passed a measure Tuesday night to attempt to get the Borough to agree to let the Beach have its court location back in the Borough Hall in Point Beach.
Another source of overtime was Hurricane Irene, which cost the department about $25,000 in overtime, which will ultimately be reimbursed by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), O'Hara said.
"I didn't have enough specials on staff when the community wanted more patrols, so I had to use regular cops on overtime because specials were maxed out on hours," O'Hara said.
If you subtract the overtime prompted by the hurricane, the busier summer, the loss of a dispatcher and the court staffing, the overtime for the department would be less than $100,000, which is comparable to the past four years, said O'Hara, showing copies of his records, after the meeting.
In response to another question from Burke, O'Hara said Dikun is an instructor at the Ocean County Police Academy, which is time paid by Point Beach as part of his regular duties and not through overtime pay.
"Rght now, 40 of the 50 trainees at the academy are training to work as specials in Point Beach," O'Hara said.
He said it's beneficial for Point Beach to have Dikun teaching at the academy because of his dual background as a lawyer and as a police official.
"There are no lawsuits against officers in Point Beach," O'Hara said after the meeting. "You get what you pay for. We're very heavy into training because that's how you make sure mistakes don't happen."
Council members did not make any critical comments about police overtime at the meeting. To the contrary, Councilman Bret Gordon complimented the chief on how he has explained the reasons for overtime to the public and on the job the department has been doing.
Councilman Stephen Reid complimented the chief and the department a few times on filing speeding violations against speeding drivers on River Avenue. Reid said the residents greatly appreciate the stepped-up enforcement in what many of them describe as a road where cars constantly speed.
Reid is also working on a plan to have a sign posting speeds of cars driving on River Avenue to help supplement police enforcement.
After the meeting, O'Hara said he is optimistic that this year's council will ultimately authorize one or two promotions for the police department, so that administrative and supervisory duties can be spread out among several officials and overtime can be reduced.
"This council has made some good, positive moves in the right direction and I'm optimistic," he said.
SoylentGreen
2:29 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
The Chief gave a concise explanation of the issue. Unfortunanatly it will fall on deaf ears with the cop haters as will be demonstrated by the comments that will be posted later on today.
Joe Erie
3:12 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Find it interesting that Steve Reid was "outraged" one day and now he is complimenting the cops? Play one side of the fence Stevie. He is a great addition to that disfunctional family on the dais. Best to get your facts before you come off like a horse's ...!
Lifetime Resident
3:42 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Mr Common Sense, I agree completely.
Lack of appropriate staffing is the underlying cause of most overtime. But your politicians have to place blame on someone. So attacking our hardworking police and public workers is the easiest venue. What people fail to realize that just because the lay people off, of place a hiring freeze does not make the work go away, thus creating the need for overtime. If you are short 5-10 police officers in town than the work load will fall on the remaining officers, and it creates huge amounts of overtime. In many instances the overtime is not always voluntary. So the public will continue to attack the police because it is easy.
Darlene Motto
10:42 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Peg & Mr., I totally and completely agree with both of your views. The fault lies and only lies amongst the prior dysfunctional council we were stuck with. They have created and caused mismanagement with not only in our police department, the water dept., which I am sure we will be paying for another increase again, this is something the residents can't even write off. The Mayor told them about that too, he argued until he was blue in the face. They stole the money. Not bowered being they never paid it back to balance a budget for their political grand standing of pitching to the zero pct tax increase to the residents. Well, guess what that credit card bill is in now in and we the residents will be paying for it now. Just like the police. Along with prayer law suit we will be paying for. Consolidating the courts without checking and realizing they would have to send a paid officer over to their courts is also another mismanagement, which I am sure cost us. Getting rid of a great police dispatcher that knew our streets, was efficient which was well worth the salary, not even making that much, to have sgts who make more have to now cover at a much higher rate that is possibly over time too or costing us more in some way I am sure. He might have quit because of the insults of this council, either way we loss him. This council is the ones who should take the blame for the 17 furloughs on the other employees, also the same council who was willing to give the Motel/Hotel Tax back.
Darlene Motto
10:55 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
I also feel this council has been running a lot smoother, working together. Respected each other regardless of their opinions or disagreement. It was going good so far until Mr. Reid had to do this. I do not know who put him up to this, but it was wrong. As a council member he should have respected our police enough, to go directly to them first, to find out the answers and reasoning. To say he feels their should be an inditement. For What? He really needs to apologize in my opinion. He could have gone to the Mayor or more experienced Council members who knew what was going on before he went to an on-line paper. The prior council would not even listen to our bond council which has been for years Bill Mayer who is now a council member to let us put a bond through to free up so money in case of emergencies and they voted No on that too. Which hurt every employee, that was done at the last council meeting, right before Christmas. Merry Christmas, to all the employees and residents of this town. They put us all at risk and if you ask me they also continually have"Pitt" the Residents against the Businesses by constantly setting fuel to the fire on many issues.
soo say me
6:23 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Bring back Chip DiCorcia he will straighten these guys out. Last night was a mockery by the chief.
SoylentGreen
5:50 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Please explain how it was a mockery. Because he dealt in facts? Facts that maybe you didn't want to hear.
Rick Ricky
6:40 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Obviously you where not there and do not know what you are talking about. He was professional, to the point, true facts. Not that I did not like Chip DiCorcia, he was great guy and police. But he would be dealing with the same problems and would have no other choice than do the same thing that Chief O'Hara had to.
tmcandrew
10:55 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
just wondering.
Is Officer Dikun still suing the town?
How many unpaid sick days has he accumulated, and what is that going to cost us?
Did he attend law school on the towns dime that he filed suit against?
200k plus to be a police officer in this sleepy little town.....priceless!
Another Barella debacle...the nitwit of Niblick strikes again.
Coming up another tax on the residents or more meters..
God Bless Marilyn Burke for speaking up
A Resident
12:35 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Tom,
Dikun is/was suing Point Boro...not Point Beach.
As many unpaid sick days as he earned....per the legal binding contract.
No, he finished law school before being a Pt Beach L.E.O.
Not sure how/why you'd involve Barrella with this....but whatever.
Would have been nice if Marilyn knew what she was talking about though....
Rick Ricky
6:52 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Tom, Apparently you have not gotten much right on all the issues you posted on. Get the correct information before you start posting false information. Marilyn Burke did speak up and that is her right as a resident. But at least she is asking for answers instead of guessing and spreading false information like a jackass. Once it was explained to her, she is smart enough to realize the police department had no other choice in the matter. She seemed satisfied with the Chiefs explanation.
Lifetime Resident
3:52 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Officer Dikun is a fine outstanding member of the community. You obviously don't have all your facts. You only know the negative because you haven't taken the time to find out the entire story. When there are not enough police officers to answer the calls in town, who do you propose do it? When the town is understaffed overtime is incurred and it is not always voluntary, and it works that way in every business. The work doesn't go away just becasue you ae understaffed. Your sleepy little town is not as quiet as you think, and to say that is ignorant. Why don't you go sit in the municipal court room for a few days it will be an eye opening experience, especially in August and September., Or maybe go look at the reports of instances where police from other towns had to respond in to help because the town was overwhelmed. It has happened several times in the last few years. Instead of complaining why not come up with a feasible solution, instead of attacking a man who has defended the residents of this town his entire life. I am sure you would be the first person complaining if you needed police help and they took to long to get there because they were understaffed.
David Cavagnaro
11:18 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
It’s unfortunate that Councilman Reid ignited so much controversy without researching the facts and speaking to the key people involved first. The Chief gave a reasonable explanation for the overtime. By law and contract, certain jobs can only be done by administrative officers, of which there are only two.. It was Council’s decision not to promote and thus cause the overtime imbalance. It would have been more considerate and professional for the Councilman to hold judgment until hearing all the facts. I think our Police do a great job protecting the community and generating revenue. They deserve an apology!
Cathy Kelly
11:22 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Dave,I couldn't agree more!!!!
Bryn Devon
12:50 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
I'll second that! Too many react without bothering to learn the background of the issue - not only the public, but, as with this, those on Council as well. We have an excellent police department. They deserve more respect than that.
tmcandrew
1:34 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Dave ... we beg to disagree. You are the most concise, fairest, nicest person ,in this town
That pay is obscene.
I wonder if he took vacation in July and August.. The town is badly run..thats it.
Tom Mc732 673 0051Andrew
ps I respect you even more for putting your name on your comments. Run for council!
Uncle Ed
6:02 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Dave, Reid didn't ignite anything. Whether you accept theChiefs explanation or not. It's inescapable that this overtime should never have happened. 250k in over time is a bad thing. 70 kfor one man while other employees are forced to take pay cuts through days off is just bad, very bad business. Someone on council was not paying attention to let this overtime accumulate. Mayor, council representative to police,finance person in charge. It's just wrong to allow this to happen.
Really??
8:45 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Just how much of this inordinate amount of overtime was a result of "law" vs. "contract"??? If it was mostly contractual obligations then clearly the contract will need to be tweaked next time it comes around to prevent this sort of thing from happening again.
Darlene Motto
11:09 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
@tmcandrew, Why would Dave want to run for council. To be abused by individuals like you. Ungrateful of the time and effort they put in to issues. That every time you do not agree with someone you result to attacking when you do not even have it right. If you got it right or even close I would say all right, but not even close. Most are misinformed on many issues. This town is a complicated town that has many issues, it is not that easy unless it is blatant political motives that our prior council seemed to have from what I seen and witnesses. They are the ones who created and caused the mismanagement and it did not stop at the police dept. {see above posts} They are the ones to blame for the overtime, furlough days, they were the ones who did not care to listen, everything fell on deaf ears and we are going to pay for it now. It is going to take us a while to get out of the mess they created.
OMG
1:15 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Reid was right to be outraged and Dave C sounds like a person from the far left. All I read here is that this Dikun character got 70000 in OT for paperwork and the police academy.
Beach_N8iv
1:25 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Perhaps you could get in touch with the council, start with the one who WASN'T elected TWICE. Ask them why they haven't moved on police promotions. Oh, and just so you know. I'm from the far left.
Joe Erie
2:48 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
If you do the math. That "character" worked what turns out to be an average of 9 hours a week in overtime. If you want to point fingers point them to Trenton who mandate policies and never kick in to the Municipalities.
Jim Harris
8:22 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Dave from the 'far left', now that's funny. He probably knows more about the workings of local government than the collective knowledge of the entire Council. As for his political leanings, they can best be described as caring and informed. He just calls them as he sees them. Refreshing.
tmcandrew
1:28 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Anyone that thinks a PPB co..who lives out of town, deserves 200k is insane
Tom McAndrew
322 Broadway
PPB 732 673 0051 call me
ps Barella is the dumbest mayor we have ever had....we really need a another sales tax.....dope(wince)
Joe Erie
3:00 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
What does living in town got to do with anything? How long have you "lived in town? You a carpetbagger with a big mouth? He probably has half a century or more in Point Pleasant. Or is it cheap shot time for public employees? Let's beat up on our teachers also. Don't forget the DPW guys. The Mayor may be dumb but after reading some of your work I am not to sure if you are running a close second?
tmcandrew
3:48 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Jr. If you have ever read anything I have ever written; you would know; collectivelly my family has owned property in this town for over 100 yrs. "Carpetbagger? ", look it up; reference the civil war.
You do make a good pt Jr.; the public employees had 17 furlough days last yr. how many did the police have? You are correct...I have a big mouth...someone has to.
As far as your question, "what does living in town have to do with it"? It has everything to do with it when someones hand is in our pockets and they dont even live here! Get it?
Rick Ricky
6:22 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
A few residents on this post sound like a bunch of uneducated idiots. If you went to the meeting you would truly know exactly why Officer Dikun had the overtime. Our department is understaff for quite some time. When you go from four to two administrative officers this is the product of what happens. You have the same amount of work that needs to get done. By law this has to be done by a ranking officer only. If we had the right amount of police officers, our department would run more efficient financially for the tax payers. We have an exceptional police department that keeps our town safe that 90% appreciate. The previous council has created many problems and Barrella has nothing to do with it. Everyone knows certain individuals are sour grapes against our Mayor and police. Some residents and prior council members should be embarrassed on what they have done this once beautiful town. This new council has been running smooth and getting a lot of done. To bad Reid started more false rumors about our police department. Our police department is professional and well respected by all. The last thing they need is a bunch of knuckleheads that do not know what they are talking about. Stop starting false rumors that are not even close to being the truth. The police can't be furlough by law. It is a 24 hour a day, 7 days a week job that some on here can't comprehend. This is not a sleepy little town, go get a report of what happened in our town just the past 2 weeks.
Uncle Ed
1:53 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Rick, I'm afraid you have completely missed the point of this issue. This town is not being well run! This latest debacle proves that.This isn't about the police being bad. Most police officers, are dedicated, loyal, and good at what they do serving the public. This problem is with this overtime is it's about a breakdown in local government. The red failure light is on. Did they blame the guys in the engiene room for the passenger liner disaster when ship went on the rocks in Italy? No! The captain is being held responsible. You just can't talk this into being a good job by anyone running this town government. Last point, how would you feel if you were one of the other town employees that had the budget balanced on their back? Not to good for building morale among the other workers who also serve the town. There is something very broken and in need of fixing, in our town government. Next thing I'll be hearing is that it's "all George Bush's fault!! ".
Darlene Motto
11:25 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Uncle Ed, personally I think you are missing the point! I agree with Rick and if you read the comment. He states if you went to the meeting you would know why? Lt. Dikun was the only one who made majority of the over time. He also explains the lack of Administrators we have in our department and that is the main reason. You are correct the town is mismanaged and the fault lies with the prior council only. They are the ones who created and caused the mismanagement with all their poor decisions they made and the other reason why their if furlough days amongst the other employees. If you went to council meetings you would have seen all the poor choices. How many police officers are too much to keep our town great. How many police officer do you think we should have on a shift majority of the times? Do you even know? Most are surprised. Remember what we have in our town. Really look around at all the issues that need to be on top off. Morale? Are you kidding me, the employees seen for themselves the lack of morale the prior council has caused. Go ask them!
Joe Erie
7:47 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
Mr. McAndrew:
Trust me I get it. I am thrilled that your family came over on the Mayflower and settled in Point Beach. "Collectively " owning property in town and being apart of the community are two different things. I have lived here over 50 years. I don't know you from theFire Company/First Aid, Elks, VFW or the schools. You were not my kids Pop Warner or Little League Coach. So I guess you spend time elsewhere or are not big into community service. Just trying to find out your agenda in this? And please don't give me the "voice of reason reply." This whole thing is trumped up. The train of fiscal ruin left the station years ago. Driven by pols who are long gone. Well sort of. So are you a minion for the Henessy/Malone Republicans? Pot stirring by direction? Reid started this. Once outraged and now silent. He got a pass by being appointed to council. He will have to face the voters again in November. I wish him well.
Rick Ricky
6:31 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Most residents appreciate our police department. There is only a few here that are living in their own little world thinking there is no crime in our town. The police dept. has their plates full. They can be kept busy with domestic violence amongst their own families here. Stop drinking and fighting and mind your own business.
Cathy Kelly
7:23 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Rick, you are absolutely correct. Unfortunately these people never have a valid argument to complain about so they just spew lies and misinformation and hope something sticks. Even when they are presented with facts,they continue to make things up. We are fortunate to have the Police that we have and the previous council has been told over and over of the effects that being shortstaffed would have on the town. They chose to ignore it...and now the ones that supported the previous council members are trying to continue the chaos. As I said last night, Mr.Reid owes Lt.Dikun and the Police Dept. an apology. The residents are becoming educated to what the council is doing and Mr. Reid will actually have to be ELECTED in November so this is a great test of his character. Lets see what he does...
tmcandrew
7:12 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Rick, I apreciate your comment. Pls come over to 322 Broadwy if you want too.
However. we can disagree....the town is a mess.
It seems like you care ...you should run cor counci!!!
confused
8:01 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
How does a guy earn overtime and he goes and teaches other officers on his regular work time ? And how does the chief of police take a long vacation in the middle of the summer when the crap is hitting the fan ?
Darlene Motto
11:37 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
The town has a lot of issues that you apparently are not aware of or are in denial. Go to town hall and get the police report for the pass two weeks, even go beyond that. No, it is not summer with some of the obnoxious drunk tourists but we have a lot of other issues here. We had 8 break ins, in the last two weeks, assault and much more. There is also a lot of domestic fights going on that the police has to break up. We are lucky that we have professional experience police that no how to handle themselves that do not abuse their power. Our police department does not have any law suits which is big amongst these sea shore towns that have a board walk. If we did, we would know about it. They really work hard and spreads them self thin. Everyone thinks it is so easy. All of a sudden so many become experts and feels they know all the laws and they can handle a trained police officers job, sure they can. Go take the test, go to school and become one. Let's see if you think it is so easy then. It is a lot of responsibility and I can bet most could not do the job themselves like so many think they could.
ashamed
6:55 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012
I guess I backed the wrong horse in the police director issue a couple years back. I'm ashamed I put a sign on my lawn for these two guys.
Uncle Ed
1:29 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
To feel too bad, I think the guys name was Jim Jones. A few years ago he got about 900 people(his followers) to drink poison laced kool aid.Seems like we have some of the same mentality living in our town.
SoylentGreen
2:47 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Jones Town, really?
CORRUPTIONATITSBEST
10:12 am on Friday, February 17, 2012
Uncle Ed, No one believes you. Get over the fact that less is following you and stopped drinking the poison laced kool aid a while ago that have been giving out. for Just admit everyone of you have been caught. Your games have been obvious to most.
A Resident
12:36 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Kind of curious....if there was so much administrative work that needed to be done that Mr. Dikun had to put in all those extra hours.....how many extra hours did the Chief put in?
Uncle Ed
1:21 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Seems like there are more questions than answers. The council is blamed by the Chief for this run away overtime expense. Most of the council is guilty of not watching the store...councilwoman Tooker was the council member in charge of the police in 2011. She has said nothing! No explanation of why she didn't know this meter was running wild all year on the overtime?. I guess they are all trying to make this inexcusable mismanagement go away. Is there no communication between the Chief and council during the year? Someone on council, the Chief, the Administrator, Person in charge of finance, should have alerted everyone that there was a major overtime problem at some point during last year! The bleeding could have been stopped before it became 250k and 70k for one person! Gross mismanagement! No way to run a town.
CORRUPTIONATITSBEST
10:07 am on Friday, February 17, 2012
What I find funny is all the individuals who are on her complaining did not seem to come out to the council meeting to complain about the OT that was paid to the Lt. or Chief. But they will comment on here. So something tells me the few on here who is making all the fuss are the few left who are still in support of the prior council or are some of the prior council on here. Who is drinking the kool aide? Uncle Ed, you keep on talking about Blind Faith, maybe you are the one who is blind. Stephen Reid loss twice, he was not elected in. He was strategically placed there by your Blind Faith group. Everyone that went to the council meetings seen that with their own eyes. It was done by former councilmen, Hennessy, Rizzo and Dyer. What corruption, I think you and your few followers are the one who is drinking the kool-aide. Why didn't you come out to the council meeting to speak up? Do not give me the excuse that you were afraid? If an elderly women " Ms. Burke" can stand up and question the council so can all of you. Stop the nonsense and poor excuses.
The mediater
4:27 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Hey here's an idea for all you people who like to bicker on here. Put the question of to many or not enough police to a binding referendum. Let the people decide. They should put the salaries to a referendum too. Let the people decide what the police should be paid. Whatever the majority of the people say rules. That way you can eliminate the political nonsense these politicians use to gain votes.
Beach_N8iv
5:19 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
You would trust a majority of people with little or NO KNOWLEDGE of the issue with a decision on public safety?
Darlene Motto
11:54 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Really? An outside study was done at no cost. It was a State Agency that checks out an entire town and all the issues. According to them we need more police. I think we are off by 3. Also most police departments run like the military. Chain of command. They have a Chief, A Captain that we do not have, and two Lts, we only have one and sergeants. When that is done we can do a binding referendum OK, Not that it will work. Look at the parking fiasco. That became political too! Sure that will work in this town. I guess most would not mind our town becoming a Seaside heights either, I mean it is half way there according to all the residents who live by the beach. I happened to believe them. I do not like what I have seen and how the town has turned. I think this town is asking for trouble if they continually do not want to support the police and schools in my opinion.
vicco
4:35 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
How much does Gov Christie make again? lol
Cathy Kelly
5:41 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Uncle Ed, The Police have been saying for years that they were understaffed. They have told the previous council that they needed to promote and they have made their needs clear on numerous occasions,THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL chose to ignore it. Those council members have done so much damage to this town that it is going to take years to fix. I believe Ms.Tooker voted yes,to give the Police what they needed but she was outnumbered so it did not pass. There was No mismanagement!!! If the Police answer to the Council and the last few years,we had Councilmen that had their own agenda and did not listen to the Chief,it is on them. Just because they stepped down(because they knew there was absolutely NO WAY they would have been re-elected) the town is stuck with the damage they have created...
SoylentGreen
5:43 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
You hit the nail right on the head.
Uncle Ed
9:41 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Ms. Kelly,nowyou just telling yourself this is not mismanagement. You are one of the very vocal but very small minority of that belief. As far as blame or responsibility for this overtimegate,,everyone on that council,including the Mayor, Administrator,Chief, all allowed this MISMANAGEMENT. Your quick to shift blame to those that proposed aPolice Director, which I too thought a bad idea at the time,however, a Director would never have permitted this mess. Don't make up stories about Councilwoman Tooker either. From what I'm aware she wasn't in the State much of last summer when much of these police staffing problems were taking place. She was not paying attention to her responsibility. Stop trying to cover up for her. Iv'e been told of your bias and blind faith in Mayor Barella and his folllowers.Don't drink their kool aid.
CORRUPTIONATITSBEST
9:42 am on Friday, February 17, 2012
@Cathy Kelly, That is exactly what happened. What is more comical they selectively listened to the police on only some of the issues. When they wanted to make a point for themselves. Then would not listen to any of the other important issues. Selective hearing and seeing is what has caused most of the problems that are going on in this town.
Cathy Kelly
5:47 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Lt.Dikun stepped up and did what had to be done...I agree with Peg,he is a stand up guy who has always put the residents first. The people that are complaining obviously have no clue what the facts are and instead of going to the source to find out the truth,they choose to listen to the select few who spread false information....Sad really...We have a new council now and hopefully all the damage that has been caused can slowly be fixed......For Mr.Reid to cause this controversy without knowing facts,when he wasn't even elected,,,but was forced in,,is a mockery in itself....
Beacon Beach
7:25 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Dikun stepped up for Dikun. I wonder what some of the other guys on the force will tell you about the enormous amount of overtime and the money used up. I'd like to know what paperwork the chief and Lt. are only allowed to do by state law. What paperwork took 500 hours of overtime ? Why was he teaching at the academy on taxpayers dollars and then falls behind on his paperwork and duties in Point Pleasant Beach to the point he needs 500 extra hours to catch up. How many extra hours did the chief put in for these same extra duties to fill the void of the two retired guys ?
CORRUPTIONATITSBEST
10:26 am on Friday, February 17, 2012
@Beacon Beach, It sounds like you are jealous. If you were in his position you would have been asked to do the same thing. You would have done it too. He worked the hours. He should get paid. Do you know how or anything about the PD and how it should run? There were guys on PD their at the council meeting and they all were backing up the Lt.
jonnyyayas
8:00 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
These cops should quit, and let the complainers fend for themselves. LOL, Caddyshack!
Down with APP
9:38 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
check out app article on this topic. The general public ain't stupid and they are commenting- check out what they sayin
tmcandrew
9:41 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
I like the caddyshcak remark.
Mr Dikun did nothing other than what he was allowed to do.
These posts are not about the quality of the police dept; but about overpaying someone. If a contractor came to your home and said " we can replace your roof for 190K" would you agreee to it?
I am sure, Mr Dikun is a wonderful Dad, brother, son,mentor, peace officer...all of the above.
It is not about him ...it is about the unsastanible system we are in.How do I know? because he lives here!
Please, seperate the personalities.....from what has happened.
Mr Raymond Kelly, who is in charge of a 50k law enforcment force in NYC is paid 165k a yr, and Mr Dikun made 30k more then him and he isnt even the chief of police! It is about money...nothing more, nothing less
NYPD
8:11 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
Great post tmcandrew !! you r sooo right. this blog is full of character assassins and people with their own agenda that they lose site of the topic. If Mr Kelly can run a city of cops for 165k then why can't these guys run 21 guys. If this Lt. made 200k running 21 guys then Mr kelly should be making $476,200,000 in comparison to ratio of size of force !!
Cathy Kelly
9:56 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Uncle Ed, you are comical. You have been "told" about my bias and blind faith..haha why does it not surprise me that you are the type of person that believes everything that you hear....stop listening to them...Their "reign" is over..The town has to figure out how to repair the damage..As for Ms.Tooker,I am assuming that you have personally spoken to her or is that something also that you were"told"haha
Really??
10:37 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
According to the Asbury Park Press, "There are 21 officers in the department in total". The Press also said that Chief O'Hara reported that he and Lt. Dikun have been responsible for 6,000 hours of "supervisory work that by law must be done". Does that mean that there is "supervisory work" that must be done by law or "6,000 hours" of supervisory work that must be done by law. There is a difference. Why does it take 6,000 hours to supervise 19 officers???
ride164
10:48 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
We can just cut it by not staffing the pd.... Just have nobody on duty... Will that satisfy that idiot at 322 broadway????
Really??
10:50 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
An interesting comment from The Asbury Park Press:
Ron Wall said:
If two people can do the work of 4 and the one in the article puts in about 900 hours of overtime during the year, one third of it as an instructor at the range, then why did they need two other people in the first place? The OT comes out to around 17 hours a week. If two people put in the 17 hours a week it is still less then a 40 hour week for one person (and that's taking out the time for range instructor)..... so, why did they have two people to begin with?
Lots of insightful comments on this topic being posted on the Asbury Park Press
http://www.app.com/comments/article/20120208/NJNEWS/302080104/-70-000-overtime-Point-Pleasant-Beach-cop
CORRUPTIONATITSBEST
10:56 am on Friday, February 17, 2012
@Really??, That is the reason why there is so much overtime. We should have 4. The police department has been working on 2 way to long. A DCA report and study was done by the State of New Jersey. We have been short police for a while. I know everyone thinks we have to many police in a small one mile town... But according to them we do not. I have to believe them because they are the ones with all the experience on how to figure out what is needed in a town. We have a Boardwalk, a lot of rentals in the summer, 23 or 24 liquor license wether it is in bars, restaurants or clubs., Who allowed all these liquor license? How can we change this or at least control what is going on in our town. We have all kinds of benefit walks, and major events displayed by the boardwalk. All their followers are coming to this small town. All the other towns have to approve every event and they charge accordingly for what is needed, Security, clean up and insurance in case of law suits. It does not come cheap. Residents need to see the entire picture before they complain. Can't have it both ways. Either pay for the police or stop the events, walks and put stipulation on the bars that is creating the most problems. All of a sudden so many have become experts on how and what it takes to run the police dept and the town. The individuals that do not live here can't even imagine. I am sure they would change their mind if they did. We need to start charging more to all that want to use our town.
Darlene Motto
11:58 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
More residents need to come to the meetings. Not by hearsay. Ask questions and actually find out exactly what the poor decisions in which were made from our prior dysfunctional council. Then maybe you will all understand.
Uncle Ed
7:22 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
ms motto, I now understand after reading your recent posts that you are another of the "blind faith" group...it is a small group but very vocal. You and Ms Kelly keep right on with your Jones town thinking. Your the ones sinking the town with your delusional attitude. Nothing I or anyone else can say will make you see the reallity of what is going on with this issue.Your content with your "Obama" attitude of blaming others for the lack of ability and bad direction by "leaders" like the current Mayor, Councilwoman Tooker, and now it seems add Mr Gordon as part of their bloc. How sad for the future fine community.
Darlene Motto
9:11 pm on Friday, February 10, 2012
Uncle Ed, You are the one who is blind, it is not a small group. You do not have your facts straight and the one who is delusional. Who said anything about "OBAMA, get your head out of the sand. He has nothing to do with all these local problems. Some of the prior council members with the last few out, not only were the most dysfunctional, the most dishonest individuals. They are the only reasons we are in trouble as a town. Sir, I witnessed it myself by going to meetings. If they would have heed warning on numerous issues the town would not be in the shape it is in. We are paying for their political grandstanding of the zero budget increase. Expect your water bill to go up again too, because of them. If they would have listened to the Chief and the Mayor we would not be having all these PROBLEMS. YOU ARE IN DENIAL!
CORRUPTIONATITSBEST
10:21 am on Friday, February 17, 2012
@Uncle Ed, As I am reading these post, You referred to and stated the "Obama"attitude, yet above you are saying next I will here it was President Bush's fault. What does either of them have to do with our town? That is how out of touch you are. I know plenty of individuals that did not agree or believe in either one of their policies. I think you are the one who is missing the points. These are local issues.
outtatowner
6:40 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
you fools shoulda hired a police director
Uncle Ed
7:42 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
The stage has been set not for any Director, promotions and new hirings of police are coming soon. Before year end...Dikun will be Captain, more new officers hired...maybe a couple new Lt's, and the band played on on the deck Titanic.
Darlene Motto
7:16 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
@outatowner, That was heavily opposed by the residents of this town. We did not want a police director. If you do not live here, most do not know what is going on. Even some residents that live here do not know what is going on.
M Brodeur
8:52 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
Police Director would have solved none of this and actually cost more. Why? A police director does not have the authority to do most of that paperwork so the same guys would still have had to do it. Plus it would have added a director's salary on top of it all.
Many people out there don't understand what a police director is and isn't.
Uncle Ed
10:47 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
That is why we did not support Director at the time. Your points are well taken. Thank you.
I have to to give credit to those that at least tried at the time...and then apparently realized it was not the right choice. Trouble is what took place, it turns out, wasn't good either.I don't blame this Chief solely either. Imagine this scenario say last summer,
Councilwoman Tooker, "Chief, how are things running in the department?" Chief responds," Well, councilwoman, you better report to the council overtime is becoming a big problem", "Gee!, thanks Chief, I will do that, let's see what can be done to fix this before it becomes a major problem". Does this example of her exerting her responsibilty seem fair enough. Trouble is it never happened.
Darlene Motto
9:31 pm on Friday, February 10, 2012
Agreed, They also do not understand, rank and file either as in the military, which is similar to most police departments. We should have a Captain and another Lt. with in our department that the Chief has asked the prior council for a year in half only for the council to turn it down. He asked for more money in the budget because he for seen the problems and it also feel on deaf ears with the prior council. The council kept on taking money away from the police budget continuously and then they wonder why we have so many problems. They waited for an emergency situation in the middle of the summer. Many residents that came to the council pleaded to this council for more money for our police so they could take back the control of the beach area of the town and I do not blame them. They are to blame for many of the towns problems. The police, furlough days and most know this and if not they are out of touch with their own town.
down south
9:14 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
Great letter by Mr Wolber is Ocean Star today. Could not have said it better.
Uncle Ed
10:34 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
downsouth, just read Wolber letter too. If I recall correctly, he was a big Gordon supporter too. I think he wrote a letter in October in support of Gordon. His letter today sounds like he too is disappointed in the Commander. We all make mistakes, A person with his character(Wolber) to his credit is at least willing to admit it. Maybe, Mr Gordon will break from the bunch he ran with and see the light.
Andy
9:26 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
I want to first say that the police do a very good job "policing" the town and handling the peak and off peak nonsense. After spending 35 years in the cable industry as an hourly union employee, an hourly non-union employee and as an administrative salaried supervisor, I have had to work contractual overtime, volunteer overtime and had to approve overtime, as well as work "understood" OT as as salaried supervisor. So I feel I have some "working" knowledge of this topic. All I want to say is oversight, justification, pre-approval of OT and budgeting. I understand the work will be there and needs to be done but there are protocols that should be followed to assure the OT is minimal, justified and falls within the forecasted budget.
Uncle Ed
10:26 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
If you are the "andy" that just ran for council, it sounds like you may be he, you should be on council instead of Gordon or Reid. Gordon who we supported really disappointed in his first test on this overtime mess, "Business as usual" comment in the Ocean Star speaks for his understanding and attitude. Reid needs to decide where he stands. First, he comes out strong asking the right questions and then folded at the council meeting. Hope you run against CouncilwomanTooker, sounds like w could use a rational thinker like yourself. .
Darlene Motto
10:09 pm on Friday, February 10, 2012
Andy, So what are you trying to say? I am just trying to understand were you stand on these issues if you think you might run for council in the future. They did not follow the OT to a minimal or protocols. Do you realize that this council originally took away from the police budget, then had to come up with emergency funding do to the problems over the summer in the beach area of our town. I know I am not in the beach area, but we are one town and what happens there effects the entire town, I do not blame the residents for coming out over the summer asking the council for help and extra money that was needed. It seems that you know a lot about unions. However I would think a police department is a little different, there is a chain of command that you follow as the military, certain laws that you have to go by and like the Chief said, only ranking officers can do certain work, being we are not fully staffed in our police department. What choice did the Chief have. What do you suggest the Chief should have done? You might have knowledge on this topic. I am not trying to disrespect you, but I can almost bet you that there is different rules that apply to a law enforcement agency that it does not in the cable company. Again, no disrespect to you. Residents will complain about the taxes, yet they do not want to lose any level of services. Services cost money, residents need to decide if they want to live in a nice town or not a nice town. Can't have your cake and eat it to.
Andy
12:59 pm on Friday, February 10, 2012
@Uncle Ed, yes I am that Andy and thank you for the vote of confidence.
Andy
3:39 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
@Darlene, I thought I said it clear in my first post. Justification and pre-approval of all overtime should go without saying. Budgeting/forecasting should also play a key role in the amount of overtime needed. It comes down to the man hours needed to preform the administrative duties. With year-over-year data of the man hours worked for admin tasks, the budget should have been broken out to the regular hours and overtime hours needed to do the work. That way the budget could reflect the total dollars needed, regular and OT. If it makes fiscal sense to promote someone to handle some of the admin tasks which will cut the OT dollars, then I'm all for a promotion. You shoot to come in under budget and if you see the trend that could put you over budget, you let someone know asap, with justification, so appropriations and adjustments can be made. Basically, I want the town to get the best bang for the buck.