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Point Beach Revised Parking Plan Approved

Plan will be in effect from 12:30 to 4 a.m. during summer in sections of Districts 3 and 4

 

 

A revised overnight, summer parking plan for sections of Districts 3 and 4 was approved 4 to 3 by Point Beach Council on Tuesday night.

Council members Stephen Reid, Andy Cortes and William Mayer voted against the parking plan, saying they do not want it to include any section of District 3.

Council members Kristine Tooker, Michael Corbally and Bret Gordon voted for it, followed by Mayor Vincent Barrella voting for it, breaking the tie.

Barrella said last summer's parking plan helped reduce noise, trash and disorderly conduct in the late night and early morning hours in District 4.

"Other than the politics of it, I don't know why anyone would vote against this, so I vote yes," he said.

There is a provision in the new ordinance, as with last year's, for businesses in the parking plan zone to get free parking passes from Borough Hall for their employees. And parking will be free at the Silver Lake parking lot, on Arnold and Ocean avenues, from 11 p.m. to 6 a.m., as it was last year.

The revised plan calls for prohibiting non-residents and those who are not employees of included businesses from parking in District 4 and a small section of District 3 from 12:30 to 4 a.m. during the summer. Last year, the parking plan, implemented for the first time, restricted parking from midnight to 6 a.m.

The parking plan, to be enforced from May 15 through Sept. 15, includes  municipally-owned roads in District 4 defined in the ordinance as "bordering on the east by the ocean, on the west by the NJ Transit train tracks, on the north by the south side of Broadway and on the south by the northern side of Arnold, but Broadway and Arnold are not subject to the ordinance" because they are county roads. The Channel Drive area near the Manasquan Inlet is no longer included, as it was last year.

The section of District 3 included in the parking plan is defined as: "bordering on the north by the south side of Arnold, on the west by the west side of St. Louis, on the south by the south side of Forman and on the east side, west of the ocean," but Arnold is not included.

All parking spaces with meters are not included in the parking plan.

District 3 was not included at all last year, but is added for this summer at the request of some of its residents, Barrella said.

Cortes said that he has called and spoken to many residents in District 3.

"There is still a ratio of 3 to 1 in District 3 who don't want it," he said, prompting someone in the audience to ask, "Where are they?"

Residents and property owners in the parking plan zone receive five placards to place in their cars so they can park in the parking plan area. Residents who live outside the parking plan zone each receive one placard.

At a recent meeting, Borough Administrator Christine Riehl said that last summer, there were "less than five requests" by Point Beach residents outside the parking plan zone for parking placards.

The penalty for violating the ordinance is a maximum fine of $2,000 and/or a maximum prison term of 10 days.

(A map showing a yellow highlighted area that will be included in the parking plan is attached here as a PDF. Please see full text of ordinance also attached as a PDF.)

Not Much Opposition and a Veil Thin Enough to See Through

At the Tuesday meeting, there were a number of residents speaking in favor of the parking plan, saying it greatly reduced noise, trash, public urination and other disorderly conduct in District 4.

One resident, Ann Lightburn, said she was not in favor of the plan, especially now that it includes part of District 3.

She said she was concerned about the plan "creeping" further into town.

Barrella said, "There is no creep." He said that a small section of District 3 was being added at the request of residents there, but that further expansion will not be done.

The strongest voice of opposition was that of Ronald Gasiorowski, attorney for Martell's Tiki Bar, which is fighting the plan with a pending lawsuit.

Gasiorowksi announced that he continues to believe that Corbally should not even be voting on the matter because he is a local Realtor who stands to benefit from the town having a parking plan. Martell's is suing Corbally separately.

Corbally did not directly address the allegation on Tuesday night. However, he has said in past months that he believes that the parking plan is good for the town overall and that by supporting it, he is carrying out his duties as an elected official who is supposed to act in the best interest of the town.

Barrella asked Gasiorowski, "You're talking about a conflict of interest. Isn't it a conflict of interest that a family member of a member of this governing body received compensation from your client and that governing body member is voting on this?"

At first, Gasiorowski would not respond, but then said he did not know anything about any such compensation.

Mayer, sitting next to Barrella, looked at him and said, "Is this about me, Mayor?"

Barrella would not say, would not name names, but it was obvious to anyone who's been at recent meetings that Barrella was referring to Chip DiCorcia, Mayer's brother-in-law, having worked as a security official for Martell's this past summer.

In the past, Mayer has said that his brother-in-law working a job for a few months for Martell's has no bearing on his deliberations or voting on any matters regarding Martell's or any other matter.

On Tuesday night, he glared at Barrella and said, "You're unbelievable."

Ocean County Treating Seaside Heights Differently

Originally, the council had been scheduled to hold a public hearing and vote to adopt the ordinance on second reading at the March 5 meeting.

However, that was postponed because the town had not heard back from the Ocean County Freeholders as to whether the county will allow the town to impose the parking restrictions on county roads. Since then, the county, reiterating its position from last year, said it will not allow it.

This is despite that the county allows Seaside Heights to impose much more onerous, 24-hour restrictions on its county roads, and there are a lot more county roads in Seaside.

The original version of the parking plan, imposed for the first time last summer during overnight hours only in District 4, sparked a number of lawsuits, including one filed by Jenkinson's, which has since been dropped.

However, in addition to Martell's continuing its litigation, there is also a group of local commercial fishing boats, a marina and local residents also suing and represented by Gasiorowski and attorney John Jackson.

Ed Brannagan, assistant manager at Martell's, had said recently that last summer's parking plan "killed business." When asked why Jenkinson's, right next to Martell's, feels it did not hurt business, he said "I don't know."

Jenkinson's dropped its lawsuit as part of an agreement with the town that called for the town to drop an early bar closing ordinance and for Jenkinson's to help pay for Sandy-related boardwalk repairs not reimbursed by state or federal government aid.

Related Topics: District 3, District 4, Parking Passes, Parking Plan, Point Beach, Point Pleasant Beach, Residents, Summer, overnight parking restrictions, and revised parking plan

Jeanmarie Payne

8:46 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013

It is easy for them to vote against it as they don't live here - they can sleep peacefully at night in the summer and probably have their windows open...we, here, cannot....

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outofthebeach4now

9:10 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013

then move. You should have known that it is a tourist central area when you purchased your home in that area.

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Nick Carraway

9:27 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013

Ms. Payne, there are many who own homes in District 4 who would gladly trade places with you because you can at least live in your home right now. Take a drive through the areas of town that are closer to the ocean and take note of all of the storage boxes and dumpsters. They're in the driveways. Until those boxes are gone, those homeowners can't park in their driveways and will have to worry about putting up their passes, and there are many homeowners who are living in their homes while construction is taking place. What about contractors who may need to park a vehicle overnight? I guess the homeowner will have to make sure that vehicle has an overnight pass. This is just one more hassle for people who already have too much on their plate to deal with. But, since you're so worried about tourists, do you realize that one of the main proponents of this plan also wanted to spend up to $30K to advertise tourism this year? That's not very consistent.

outofthebeach4now

9:08 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013

I cannot believe the barrella led council has, once again, instituted a parking plan that will discourge people from visiting/staying in PPB this summer. With the aftermath of Sandy hanging over the heads of the Boardwalk businesses(and others in town) and the state wide perception that the "shore area" will not be ready for summer tourist season, re instituting the parking plan is a ludicrious. This council should be looking for ways to attract people to town, not drive them away. Put more cops in the area from 11pm-4am and you will get the same result as last year, not to mention additional revenue. Thank god the barrella reign of terror is almost over...............

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A Resident

11:58 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013

You honestly believe there are people who will choose not to visit PPB at all because they can't park their car on a few streets between 12:30am and 4:00am?

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outofthebeach4now

1:22 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

@ a resident, its the overall perception of limiting access is the point here. Next time, take the whole content of the thought and not specific line items.

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Mike Ryan

4:43 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

I didn't realize that a lot of families use the beach or go to the boardwalks between 12:30 and 4:00... Amazingly, I thought only the bar-goers wer in town at that time of night. Are the lifeguards on duty too? You learn something everyday!

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Lenny

9:24 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

Why bother commenting or caring what the town does or goes on if you left the beach for now? It is your signature name. Why should you care? Unless you are either getting something out of all this or did at one time?

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Lenny

9:27 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

A Resident&Mike Ryan, Agreed, Families don't and the reason why it is really not an issue? It is just a political issue and the reason why some are making a big deal out of it.

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Nick Carraway

10:24 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

A Resident, did you live in District 4 last year or live in District 4 now?

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A Resident

8:39 am on Friday, March 22, 2013

Last year? No. But in my years here, I have lived in D2, D3, and D4.

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outofthebeach4now

8:42 am on Friday, March 22, 2013

@Lenny, I have a keen interest as members of my family live and have so since 1939. I will live there again in the future.

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Nick Carraway

9:00 am on Friday, March 22, 2013

A Resident, thank you for your response regarding where you live/have lived. I posed the question because I was curious as to whether you had any actual experience as a homeowner dealing with last year's parking plan, the pros and cons of the situation. My personal observations are that homeowners who have large driveways, like Ms. Payne, were not inconvenienced by the plan and therefore saw it only as beneficial. But, as you know, there are many homes in D4 that do not have sufficient off-street parking, and those homeowners found the plan to be more cumbersome, as suggested by Linda's comment about the house she has rented in the past. Now that many have storage boxes in their driveways, I wonder how many more homeowners will feel inconvenienced by this new plan.

Jonny tomato

10:38 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013

A telling comment by Barrella -"Other than the politics of it, I don't know why anyone would vote against it".

So he's admitting that a majority of the people (as voted on in November) are against this plan but he's going against the will of the people.

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Laura

8:18 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

How exactly is that statement admitting that a majority of people are against the plan? How do you extrapolate that from Barella's statement?

Julie Noack

12:12 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

A large number of Point Pleasant Beach residents voted to elect this Mayor and his merry band of puppets so deal with it and all his idiotic plans. There is no one to blame but yourselves.

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Spooner

12:43 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

The damage has already been done according to attorney Ron Gasiorowksi. Ever since Barrella bought the New York media down here, along with the parking plan implementation over the voters objections. And remember Jenkinsons last year reported their beach admissions were down, while Belmar's and other shore beaches were reporting increases...and now with what's left by Sandy; as commented on above, could just add more...

...so Councilman Corbally: the realty site www.zillow.com shows 28 homes for sale in D4, between Parkway & Broadway. How many buyers do you and others have looking to buy them?

http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Point-Pleasant-Beach-NJ-08742/fsba,fsbo_lt/house_type/61165_rid/40.097549,-74.03428,40.090212,-74.049085_rect/15_zm/0_mmm/

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SoylentGreen

4:42 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

Why would beach goers worry about a parking plan that didn't go into effect until 12am?? The plan was designed to target the drunk, unruly bar crowds that many of the residents complained about. I don't see the issue here.

Linda Gee

1:24 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

My family and I rent a house for a week in Point Pleasant each summer. All I can do is shake my head and again wonder why a town who derives tons of money from their much needed tourist business each summer.........continues to make things difficult on the very tourists who support their town's economy.

When I first rented many years ago, I rented on Minard with no parking and went through the "find a parking spot and stay there" dance. God forbid, if you move your car you might have to park a mile and a half away when you get back. When that frustration wore me down, I upgraded to renting on Forman.

So now, in addition to paying over $5,000 per week for my beach rental, I get to worry about where people in the house will park? where visitors will park? will the rental company provide stickers for us? how many? will visitors remember to display the stickers? will they visitors remember to give them back to me when they leave for home? We already hold the "did you put the beach tag back?" inquiry, now we get to do the same for the parking pass.

Good grief, Point Pleasant! How many ways will you deter summer renters until we choose another town?

In the many years I have rented the lovely beach house, the streets around the house are virtually empty at night. I haven't seen or heard rowdy bar patrons. Spending over $5000 for a week's stay is much harder to take when you have to grovel to be able to park your car in front of the house.

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Opinionated

3:00 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

Linda, it is more than apparent that PPB is not by any means ready for tourism yet due to two natural diasaters, namely Sandy and Mr. Barella. Sandy made many homes uninhabitable and the Council has made them unbearable. It is time to take the hint: They don't want you there. There are many beautiful rentals outside of PPB and they will welcome you and your family with open arms. Don't know how long the cleanup and recovery from Sandy will take but it won't be nearly as long a recovery from their pols will be.

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A Resident

8:17 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

Hey Linda, guess what? The place you are renting from gets parking passes that would allow you to park in the "restricted" area. The parking plan will actually HELP you be able to park easier.

If you rented on Minard Place and never saw drunk and/or rowdy bar patrons leaving....you must have been one.

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Lenny

9:27 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

But yet you keep on coming back...

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Linda Gee

1:23 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Well, Lenny.....I have come back up to now because the parking plan has just been extended into District 4 where I rent. If it is too much of a complication, I would look elsewhere. I'm hoping it will work out okay with the realtor extending the 5 passes to us. I'll let you know.

To "A Resident"........I last rented on Minard about ten years ago. Other than the parking being a pain.......we never had a problem there.

To "A resident":

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MTBottle

1:37 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

You could do a really nice cruise or a nice all inclusive vacation for 5 grand.....

Beach_N8iv

3:28 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

What'a that? The voters said no to the parking scam??? Oh those silly voters, they don't really know what's good for them. Don't worry, "your" elected officials will fix everything for you.

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Buddy

4:15 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

Tell me Mr. Barrella and council sheep, why do you need this after what happened 29 October 2012? For once, think about the town of PPB and what it is/was, a summer tourist destination and a year round home for some. Put more rent a cops in D4 and write tickets for those who mis behave after 12......

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SoylentGreen

4:38 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

What I've learned from this, the bar closing debacle and the crying about the tourist crowds is that there is simply no pleasing the residents of Pt Pleasant Beach.

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Laura

8:25 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

Soylent,

To be fair, it's mostly the squeaky wheels on here. The residents, that either don't care (politically) or are not affected, don't bother to beat a dead horse on here.

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Nick Carraway

10:18 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

Laura, what's your "skin" in this game? You live in Pt. Boro, don't you?

Mr. Happy

4:44 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

Keep in mind that many homes will be empty and dark this summer from Sandy, so a side benefit of the parking plan will be the fact that the marauders won't be laying waste to the empty homes. Good government, keeping the people safe. Again. Thanks to Mayor and Council.

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Nick Carraway

10:22 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

Mr. Happy, I respectfully disagree with you. I believe that all of the foot traffic helps to keep the homes safe. By driving late night tourists off of our streets, we are making it easier for empty homes to be violated.

capt mark

4:48 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

Barrella said last summer's parking plan helped reduce noise, trash and disorderly conduct in the late night and early morning hours in District 4.

"Other than the politics of it, I don't know why anyone would vote against this, so I vote yes," he said.

SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND HERE THE MAYOR IS SAYING ITS OK for people to leave the bars and drive home,, this is how a town loses revenue

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A Resident

8:43 am on Friday, March 22, 2013

capt mark....what did the people do when they left the bars and were allowed to park where ever? Didn't they still drive home? Or are you claiming that now that they can't park between 12:30 and 4 on some streets they will only NOW drive after drinking? Did they magically get home (or to their rentals) before?

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Nick Carraway

9:26 am on Friday, March 22, 2013

A Resident, the parking plan decreases options. Many people who have ever had a drink or two have also had the experience that they realize that the alcohol they have consumed has made them more impaired than they expected. Our youth has had significantly better instruction than previous generations in terms of being responsible for one another, to take a friend's keys or discourage a drunken friend not to drive. When you know that a vehicle can be safely left parked overnight without fear of a ticket, it is much easier to make the decision not to drive and to either simply spend the night at someone's house or get a ride from someone else, and pick up your car in the morning. Even if a driver chooses to park in the Silver Lake lot for free, he/she only has until 6 am to retrieve that vehicle without being ticketed under the current plan. It's all about options for the visitor. This plan limits the options for someone who has driven and drinks alcohol, which I am sure is one of the reasons why Martells' business dropped off last year.

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PennyStocks

10:29 am on Friday, March 22, 2013

so nick opposes the plan because it takes options away from someone who drives to a bar and is dumb enough to get drunk without anyway to get home. guess nick never heard of a designated driver

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Nick Carraway

11:12 am on Friday, March 22, 2013

Penny, I was merely explaining what I believed to be Capt Mark's point in my response to A Resident. I oppose the parking plan because I think it's more trouble than it is worth. I believe that, since we hired a large number of Special police officers last year, we should've let them try to reign in the bad behavior first. Then, if that didn't work, consider imposing a parking plan this year. I think that the parking plan that was imposed last year did create some problems for some residents. I also think that it did create negative publicity, discouraged some tourists from coming to PPB, and most likely did hurt some of our local businesses. But, if that parking plan "worked," then they should've just put the same one in again, not change it, especially the hours. I think that everyone should admit to the fact that the parking plan is designed to drive drinking patrons out of our BW bars, and be willing to pay for the damage the plan has caused to those businesses. If we decided to prohibit the sale of hammers and nails within our town, I think we'd owe the hardware store money, too. But, if we're not willing to pay for the intended consequences of these actions, then we shouldn't make those types of decisions and choose another solution. I continue to think that the police provide our best solution to this problem.

Lenny

1:34 am on Friday, March 22, 2013

NIck, I respectfully disagree with you. I believe if you keep tourists off our residential streets in the early morning hours will prevent peace and quiet to homeowners and those families who happen to rent. It will also keep squatters at bay of empty houses especially if they can't find a room for the night.

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Lenny

1:39 am on Friday, March 22, 2013

Nick, I do have a heart for those who loss their home or needs to rebuild. But let's not forget they are the ones who chose to live closer to or on the Ocean. Everyone should know that there is some sort of risk in doing so. You don't mess with mother nature. You can't blame everyone else or expect everyone else who doesn't to pay for them. They chose to live that close and other chose not to.

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Nick Carraway

8:47 am on Friday, March 22, 2013

Lenny, I understand your notion that people who choose to live near the water expose themselves to a risk of flooding. Consider, though, that there were many homes that had been in existence for generations that did not have flooding prior to Sandy. People who lived in those homes knew that they hadn't flooded in the past when they chose to live there. If you believe as you do about the risk of flooding, then you should also accept the notion that someone who has chosen to live closer to the boardwalk area made a choice to live in an area that has, historically, had tourists roaming the streets throughout the day and night. As much as these homeowners chose to live near the water, they also chose to live near our biggest tourist attractions. My opinion is that the parking plan is too much hassle for our current situation. The hours aren't the same as last year and many homeowners are still dealing with Sandy issues. For the 4 hours of this plan, we could just as easily rely on our police officers to patrol and issue tickets and save the money for new signs. I maintain that by eliminating foot traffic in the area, we are increasing the likelihood of burglaries. I don't think that burglars are necessarily drunken tourists. It is much easier to break into a vacant home when it is dark and there's no one there to see or hear you do it.

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Laura

8:29 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Where exactly do you live, Nick? You believe the drunks walking to their cars would be observant enough to notice a burglary in progress?

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Nick Carraway

11:24 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Laura, I live in PPB, year-round. Can you say the same thing? I've also never posted a swastika on any website or blog that I've controlled. Can you say the same thing? And, yes, I do believe that many of the tourists who are walking to their cars late at night would notice a burglary in progress. Not every one who walks down the street late at night from the bars is so drunk that they wouldn't.

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Laura

8:05 pm on Saturday, March 23, 2013

Nick,

I grew up in Bay Head, went to the Beach High School and bought in the Boro. Nick, how would anyone know what you have or haven't done? You are using an alias. You could actually be Nat Sladkin.

Yes, all those bar patrons are going to make the town safer. That sounds like a Republican Club idea.

What district do you live in? Of wait, you could say anything. Forget I asked.

Mr. Happy

10:08 am on Friday, March 22, 2013

Nick writes "it's all about options for the visitor" and "Martell's business dropped off last year" and "accept the notion ...tourists roaming the streets." This folks, is the crux of the parking issue. There are those that support the BW enterprise at the expense of the people. And I have illustrated that by using their exact words. Thank God this governing body is looking out for the folks.

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Nick Carraway

10:35 am on Friday, March 22, 2013

Mr. Happy, if you're going to pull quotes from my posts, then you should at least portray the full sentiment of my posts. I am specifically referring to my quote about the "tourists roaming the streets." I don't support the BW enterprise at the expense of the people. You know, from exchanging posts with me in the past, that I believe that we should've relied on the police to enforce rather than impose the parking plan. I know that you support the parking plan. What I like is consistency, and here's where I get really confused by people like you, who like the parking plan. You and many other parking plan proponents felt that last year's plan worked. So tell me...why did they change it? I understand maybe shortening the end time to 4 am, so that the fisherman weren't affected, but why change the start time? That was part of the deal with Jenkinson's, wasn't it? So, who is it that is supporting the BW enterprise at the expense of the people? Isn't it the guy who made that deal with the BW businesses to move the start time back from midnight to 12:30? This parking plan is designed to drive people who like to drink out of PPB. I can tolerate them, but obviously many cannot. Accept that the goal is to get drinkers out of PPB, that the plan is effective, and pay Martells for the damage you've caused to its business as a result of pursuing this goal. That would be responsible government, although I would prefer to keep that money in my own pocket.

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A Resident

12:13 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Nick, why was the plan changed? Simple. To "fix" some of the people's concerns/complaints with it. No one has ever said it was perfect. Fishermen complained about not being able to park when they go fishing in the morning....so the hours and area were changed to accomodate those as I guess the town felt that was reasonable. (ya, the town LISTENING to people) It was expanded into D3 as "some" people in D3 wanted it. Yes, I know people in D3 that wanted it and some that did not. Is it perfect now? Nope. But it seems like the town actually listening to the requests of people. They will never please everyone. As for Martells....funny how only 1 business has complained of lost revenue while the rest of the boardwalk places haven't......maybe it's just Martell's and their business practices that are driving customers away (like the heavy handed security, like the high entrance fees, and the lack of good entertainment).

MTBottle

1:44 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

On the good foot, Jenkisons is going to be ready for buisness, they have their pre Easter ticket sale for tuesday, and will be open for Easter......
People will come....(can you believe people will spend 5 grand for a week in PP Beach?)......I don't get it.....

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Mr. Happy

2:00 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

The genie is out of the bottle Nick... "it's all about options for the visitor." Can't put that one back in the bottle.

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Nick Carraway

2:27 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Um, yeah Mr. Happy, I believe that because the visitors have fewer options in terms of parking, some of them are choosing to go elsewhere. I don't see any genie in that statement. Now, why don't you answer my question....if certain governing body members were "looking out for the residents," why did they change the starting time of the plan from midnight to 12:30? How did the residents benefit from that change?

Part Timer

4:01 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Nick, why don't you just shut up already...
The parking plan works for the residents as well as the bar crowd. You forget to mention they can park for free in the muni lot.

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PPNB

8:41 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

I'm for the plan also. But, that was rude part timer.

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Nick Carraway

11:29 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Part Timer, I am terribly disappointed in you for your comment to me. Over the past few months, we've exchanged numerous posts. I believe that you once posted how disappointed you were to see the times of the plan changed. I agreed with you...if they were going to put the plan back, then it should've been the same times to eliminate further confusion. And, you're wrong...I didn't forget to mention that they can park for free in the muni lot. Read my post at 9:26 am today. My tax dollars are as good as yours, and as much as you obviously feel that you have the right to express an opinion, you should respect my right to express one, too without telling me to "shut up."

Mr. Happy

4:02 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

The change to 1230 was a request by Jenks to accommodate families staying a bit longer. Part of the compromise and it does not affect the residents. Today's Ocean Star reports the Chief of Police stating the parking plan "was successful" with a reduction in quality of life issues. OK, spin that one Nick.

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Randle McMurphy

4:38 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Ok Happy, the Chief will say just about anything Barrella wants him to say, Barrella just gave him a Captain that wasn't needed ( that's right over 2 years without one, so I guess it wasn't that important a job ) who's doing the same work he did as a Lt. but is now getting paid more (now higher OT rate and he knows how to get the OT ) . That same person campaigned the fear and destruction of PPB was coming soon ( and I don't mean SANDY ) which Barrella and his cronies sold to the public. Barrella gave him another cop to hire ( bye the way what's going on with that? why wasn't he hired yet?) . The PD has this Gordon guy so snowed he'll fall for anything they say to him .And the DEAL with Jenks , Barrella made, has anyone seen it ??? For the People you say ? didn't the people vote down the parking plan, didn't they Barrella's cronies pervert the vote to say Ooooo Dist 4 voted for it so that's why were putting one there. If that the case then Dist 3 voted NO but Barrella's putting one there anyway ,so much for the people. Cortes says he took a poll and it was 3 to 1 against it ,so much for the people . Like Out of the beach 4now says ..Barrellas reign of terror will be over soon unless the dopes fall for his nonsense again

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Letsbehonest

5:41 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Randie...You hit the nail on the head. Those who will benefit or get special treatment will say just about anything so all the lies will continue. I am not convinced that Gordon is that stupid or snowed. He is just like all the rest. Will say or do just about anything to fit in and feel so important. Just because he is a military man means nothing. Have you read the papers of all the military man caught in shameful acts. His wife just put a letter in the opinion section of the Ocean Star about how great she thinks the schools have been. It is as bad as her being afraid of all the gangs in the town while she walks her dogs. She has to be getting special treatment with that letter or maybe she is just buttering up for continued special treatment until her other kid graduates.

Letsbehonest

4:58 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Mr. Happy, People see things totally different then others. Some agree with the parking and others don't. Chief reports success on parking plan that others might not in the Ocean Star. Big Deal..I also read a letter In the Ocean Star written by a councilmen's wife. She portrays how great and successful the schools are and how great everyone is and does for her the student. She must be getting special treatment because I know plenty that is very unhappy with what has been allowed to go on. I was just out in town and quiet a bit were complaining what a joke the school is. Just keep on pretending what is really happening and going on in this little town. People are in their own little world of denial. I know plenty that would disagree with her opinion on what she feels is going on. This town is so full of fluff it makes me gag.

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Letsbehonest

5:12 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

@ Mr. Happy, I know plenty of kids who attend or attended point beach at one time realized the exact opposite of what this councilmen wife claims. What they have learned is, it is ok to cheat on tests without any punishments, Lying is ok, drinking is overlooked without any punishments, how lazy and relax the staff is, don't have to play like a team, individual players on team sports,everything handed to them based on who they are from both coaches and teachers. Why would kids have to work hard when everything is handed to them that they really don't deserve? Maybe she is getting special treatment in HS like the big bad world out there. So she is fine with her kids getting special treatment and who cares about all the rest who clearly is not.

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Letsbehonest

5:24 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Mr. Happy, My point is... just because someone claims success in their opinion in the paper means nothing to most. We all know the b.s. support letters that are not even close to the truth for their own agendas to continue to receive special treatment. It's called Brown nosing.... Don't believe everything you read.

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Spooner

7:09 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

A Resident- it's not true that Jenkinson didn't lose money last year. Their beach revenue was less, while other shore towns nearby had greater beach traffic. As for other revenue: Martell's attorney raised the point that if Martell's revenue was down, then other BW businesses... had to have been affected as well. It's understandable why those other businesses will not publicly acknowledge those facts, for fear of inflaming the situation even more. Now Jenkinson has embarked on rebuilding the broadwalk, to get people back on the beach and have access to other recreation and amusements.

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Part Timer

8:05 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Spooner, the fact is that family's coming to the shore for the day would rather go to a beach without all the extras that PPB has to offer, meaning they do not want to spend the extra money for the rides, games, etc. They want to take the kids to the beach and that's it... The Beach...........

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Part Timer

8:09 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Spooner, do you really think they are claiming all those beach passes they sell.
All the games that are played.
Paid for with CASH................

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Laura

8:33 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

The party boats must take in a lot of cash also.

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PPNB

7:35 pm on Saturday, March 23, 2013

And you would know because.......? Are you a inland property owner or not. That means your property is west of the boardwalk. I would love to tell you how to operate your business.

Mr. Happy

8:57 am on Saturday, March 23, 2013

Hi Nick-As we await your take on the Chief of police endorsing the parking plan, also include your thoughts on the attorney for Jenks agreeing the plan was a success. They are right there in the minutes from the December council meeting. I'm sure Spooner McMurphy can access them for all to see. Thanks!

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Nick Carraway

1:12 pm on Saturday, March 23, 2013

Mr. Happy, from the 12/18 minutes, stated by McGlynn: "Storino family recognizes Sandy's damaging effect on citizens and the community – many homes were devastated – will face tax appeal issues – Storinos purchased Jenkinsons in 1976 – they are part of this community – they understand that, in the minds of Mayor and Council and the citizens, the parking plan worked – don’t want to disturb that – bar ordinance not only affects Jenkinson’s, but other PPB business taxpayers, who have been devastated by it, so overall, this will help – had a pact not to mention this to anyone – his co-council is not aware of their stance on negotiations – joint effort by Mayor and Council and Jenkinsons to wipe the slate clean, move forward in some type of partnership and not be contentious." It sounds to me like both sides wanted to come to some type of resolution so that everyone could move forward. The Barrella bloc agreed to repeal the early bar closings, which McGlynn mentioned was very damaging to multiple businesses, and Jenks decided to stop fighting the parking plan, recognizing that in the minds of the "Mayor, Council and the citizens, worked." McGlynn did not say all of the Council or all of the citizens. It was a compromise, with Jenks' putting its priorities, namely rebuilding the bw and repealing the early bar closings, first. I haven't read the Ocean Star yet to comment on the Chief. It's a nice day. Enjoy the good weather!

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LW

6:56 pm on Saturday, March 23, 2013

Mr. Happy, What choice did Jenkinson's have? 1) He agreed to this comprimise because he knows dealing with all the morons = Mayor and the majority on council would have held up his business. So, yes he did it for himself and his family to build the boardwalk that was destroyed and losing mega money for him daily. I would have done it too. 2) I also feel he was doing it for the residents who felt the parking plan worked and was trying to make some sort of peace with the residents. @LBH..I agree whole heartily that the highlighted political letter in this past fridays OS from Councilmen Gordon's Wife Beth is appalling. She claims she is not at all involved or political. Really? She has become more political then her husband. I guess only in Beth Gordon's World the schools is so great. She is fooling no one with that letter.

PPNB

9:17 pm on Saturday, March 23, 2013

I think Mr. Happy is a mean drunk.

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O

8:43 am on Sunday, March 24, 2013

I don't think either Gordon is that naive or snowed as some think on here. I feel they know exactly what they are doing and it is all to benefit themselves one way or another. I feel the letter is down right political and disgusting. Can't get any phonier then that. Does she really believe what she wrote? People see the show the schools put on. It has been more noticeable the past two weeks alone. There is very few students that the school helps, support or sees. They only help their chosen few. I guess her own kids is the special students. Lord knows they are setting wrong examples for all the other students. Keep on pretending that everything is great in the schools and it will come tumbling down sooner than you think. Sucking up is not flattering at all.

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Mr. Happy

10:08 am on Sunday, March 24, 2013

Hi Nick- good response, thanks. Bottom line as you say is " a resolution so that everyone can move forward." That's the best we can all hope for.
A note to those who have somehow morphed the parking plan debate into attacks on our school system: Keep in mind that PPB is a tuition school (people pay to send their kids here) and PPB is consistently ranked high in the state and always #1 in the county. You may want to voice your concerns at a BOE meeting. Thanks.

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O

12:18 pm on Sunday, March 24, 2013

Sure it is...The school is all a bunch of hoopla. They do and can make the school look like anyway they want. Yes, people pay tuition to send their kids to the school, they either find out to late what the school is really about, leave the school and go some other schools, some kids from her go to different schools too. The school leaves it all that out in they're bragging rights. Those who is getting special treatment is the happy ones. Sure it is always great when your kids are the ones who is getting special treatment. Voicing your concerns at the BOE, To the Superintendent, Principal, Teachers doesn't do a darn thing. It is ridiculous. They don't do anything to stop what is down right wrong. The students themselves see the problems. Shssss, can't say anything though. Who ranks them #1 in the county? They probably the only school who makes it from Ocean County...So What? It went from parking to the school when someone quoted the Chief felt the parking plan worked and council members wife put a political letter in the paper about the schools. It isn't the first article that drifted off on topic when answering another post. That's just the way it is. I don't think individuals is that snowed about the schools. You have some just going along with it for their own selfish needs.

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Mr. Happy

9:40 am on Monday, March 25, 2013

Hi O - NJ Monthly ranks high schools based on numerical data from the NJ Department of Education. PP Beach High School has been ranked #1 in Ocean County and highly in the state since 2006. Hope that answers your question.

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Spooner

11:32 am on Monday, March 25, 2013

NJ Monthly magazine shows PPB HS performance going from a 58th in ranking for 2010, to 78 in 2012...

https://www.box.com/s/7c300516930c32f71a8e

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Elizabeth J.

11:41 am on Monday, March 25, 2013

Mr. Happy, while that may be true of our high school, our elementary school doesn't seem to do as well. School Digger ranks Bay Head elementary (one of our sending schools) at 116, Lavallette at 311, but Antrim at 559. Nellie Bennett ranks 254 and Ocean Road ranks 373. http://www.schooldigger.com/ If you have information that shows a better ranking situation for Antrim, please share as I would like to believe that our elementary school kids are getting a great education, too.

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A Resident

12:39 pm on Monday, March 25, 2013

Elizbeth J. did you read the Ranking FAQ's on the Digger site? Even they admit they are not using much criteria for their rankings....in fact, they take very little into their rankings. I wouldn't judge any school system based on standardized testing alone. Some schools teach to the test...some schools teach.

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A Resident

12:46 pm on Monday, March 25, 2013

Spooner, wasn't it 2009/2010 when sizeable budget cut to PPB BoE came into play? Cut programs and drop in ranking....

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Elizabeth J.

1:08 pm on Monday, March 25, 2013

A Resident, thanks for pointing out the flaws in that ranking site. You've put some of my concerns to rest.

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o

4:20 pm on Monday, March 25, 2013

Hi to you Mr. Happy, Where does NJ Department of Education get their information from? Ranked #1 in Ocean County? Again, it is most likely the only school from Ocean County that made the list to begin with and the reason they are no.1. If they are not competing with any other school from Ocean County of course they would be. Where does NJ Department of education&NJ Monthly get their information from? PPB School System themselves! How do they rank? Do you believe everything New Jersey Monthly Magazine or article? Is that your bible. I don't believe everything New Jersey Monthly Magazine pushes, like Top Doctors. Dentist and Resturants. Not really impressed with some of their picks and suggestions. PPB High School did not have great test results. It is not that much higher than state average. They have very few kids getting above average test scores. Like spooner posted, PPB HS performance going from 58th to 78th. What I want to know? How come NJ Monthly Magazine always did top 75 schools for as long as I could remember to suddenly change to Top 100 schools? Who does PPB know at NJ Monthly Magazine? Some parents choose to pay to go to PPB High School rather than send their kid to Brick, Lakewood and Toms River which is much larger schools. Some parents choose to pay because their kid or the parent had a falling out or disagreement with they're sending district. Some parents pay because their child could not make their school sports teams. You did not silence or convince me.

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Spooner

5:24 pm on Monday, March 25, 2013

'o'- a little trivia: back when NJ Monthly magazine was rating just 75 schools, PPB believe it or not, was ranked 58th in the Sept,1996 edition... looks like they made a lot progress since then?

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A Resident

11:22 pm on Monday, March 25, 2013

o - ALL public schools in NJ are rated and ranked. Only the top 75 (now 100) are listed.

http://njmonthly.com/articles/towns_and_schools/2012-top-high-schools-methodology.html

P

12:28 pm on Sunday, March 24, 2013

You know what they say...If you can beat them, join them. No matter what it is about, the parking, schools, town problems...hip hip hooray.

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Vince Barrella

12:49 pm on Sunday, March 24, 2013

Only on the Patch can a letter such as the one below be the subject of attacks by anonymous cowards hiding behind a computer screen:

"It takes the efforts of many behind the scenes workers to help earn scholarships and college acceptance packets for our students. Spring is an especially busy time, and until recently, I had no concept of the amount of work involved in today’s highly competitive scholarship and college application processes. It wasn’t this complicated in 1976 when I was a high school senior!

With my first born about to graduate, I’ve been enlightened and I find myself with a feeling of gratitude for the teachers and staff members of the Point Pleasant Beach High School who go above and beyond to answer email messages, write letters of recommendation, finalize scholarship and college applications, and answer never-ending questions to help our students begin a new chapter after high school. You know who you are and we will never forget all that you've done for us.

As we near the 2013 graduation of our senior class, I wanted to take this opportunity to thank the teachers, staff members, guidance department, coaches, mentors, club and class advisors at Point Pleasant Beach High School who have gone the extra mile to guide and support our students. You are an amazing team of dedicated professionals and we appreciate you! Thank you for making such a difference in our son’s educational experience. Your positive influence will last for years to come."

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P

1:36 pm on Sunday, March 24, 2013

Vince Barrella, To each their own to do or say how they feel. Some prefer to stay anonymous for reasons that you might not understand. There is more anonymous cowards than not posting comments. How do we know you never posted anonymous before. So don't get all high and mighty. The letter is fine and this is the councilmen's wife opinion. She referred gratitude in helping and supporting our students. Does she know that to be true and for sure? Maybe the school went above in beyond for her and her own child. Maybe some on here feel they were not helped at all. The school does have a habit of helping, supporting and seeing who they want. She opened herself up to political attacks because that is how people see it as a political letter. She has every right to thank the school on her own behalf. To drag all students in to it was wrong. She does not know if the school went above and beyond for everyone or how she sees it.

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Jo Jo

6:52 pm on Sunday, March 24, 2013

Vince...We don't need you on here pushing your politics. We have enough of you doing that during the painful town meetings.

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Elizabeth J.

7:30 pm on Sunday, March 24, 2013

I saw Mrs. Gordon's Letter in the Ocean Star and thought that it was her way of trying to do damage control for the comment that her husband, Councilman Gordon, made about the need for an SRO in the school system because of a severe alcohol problem at the school. I'm sure the school administrators and BOE cringed when they read that comment in the paper. Underage drinking has been a problem since this country started restricting the drinking age, and I don't know of any high school where at least some of the kids drink underage. This is why programs like SADD and Project Graduation were developed. So, for Councilman Gordon to say that the alcohol situation in the school system is so bad that we need to hire an SRO just to deal with it...well, how bad is it? Unless a teacher or school administrator is giving out the alcohol, this is a parenting problem, not a school problem. (Most kids get their alcohol from their parents' liquor cabinets). Of course, Mrs. Gordon couldn't write "My husband's a boob. The alcohol problem at PPB schools isn't any worse than anywhere else," so she went this route. Since the Mayor has chosen to post her letter, in full, here, there really isn't any doubt that it was written for political purposes (to save face). I remember when Mayor Barrella used to regularly go to BOE meetings and throw grenades from the audience. Funny how times change.

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Jo Jo

10:38 pm on Sunday, March 24, 2013

It definitely was political. You could be right because of his slip of that comment. I don't think it was all because of that boo boo. I think some of it is to get special treatment for her kids too. That is what a lot of parents do. The funny thing is it usually backfires when something happens to their own kid. Then is when they feel different. I agree a lot is the parents and they need to address problems with their kids. But when something is going on in the school during the day, the school needs to step up when the parent is not there. They can't continue to look the other way. If I student is caught drinking or cheating during school hours the school should be following their own school policies no matter who it is. Suspend them, they should not be rewarded by playing sports. Who is in control when the kids get caught? If the parent does not like the penalty, too bad. The school needs to show the other kids that you just can't get away with bad behavior or something that is wrong. Administration, Teachers, Coaches need to be fair to all the kids, no special treatment. Kids see it. School officials should be setting the right examples as well as the parents. If you do it for one then you get in the trap that you have to do it for all. There is just to much wrong going on and many kids, parents and teachers see it. If a teacher fails a kid because he did not do his or her work, or flunks a test, so be it...don't change it, How is it fair to all the other kids?

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Jo Jo

10:41 pm on Sunday, March 24, 2013

The parking plan is political too.

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Mr. Happy

2:25 pm on Monday, March 25, 2013

"Data for the NJ Monthly ranking of the state's high schools were obtained from the state Department of Education." I don't see why some people seek to discredit our school system when factual data proves otherwise. The numbers prove it and the fact that people of means choose to pay (a lot) to send their kids here for the quality education PPBeach provides should silence the critics.

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o

4:29 pm on Monday, March 25, 2013

Mr. Happy, Some people discredit the school from those who had a bad experience with the school just like any other organization. What factual data? Where is the data coming from? Just like they discredit the scam parking plan.

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Mr. Happy

6:31 pm on Monday, March 25, 2013

Hi O- Final thought on this school ranking issue. I was only aware of rankings back to 2006. Spooner has found rankings back to 1996. Seems PPBeach has been highly ranked for over a decade and a half. Sorry, but those are the facts and the end of this debate.

O'Sham

8:18 pm on Monday, March 25, 2013

Mr. Happy- I think you are snowed about the schools, a little naive of what is really going on about the town according to YOU. I don't care about your findings, rankings and What NJ monthly magazine. Do you know where the facts are coming from? Can you answer that question? Why are you avoiding that question. Don't tell me from the NJ Department of Education. The school is losing all their credibility little by little with just alone what so many see including the students. If you currently are not in the school system then you have no idea. Mr. Happy, This school changed for what they stood for at one time. If you are in it and don't realize it then you have a denial issues.

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A Resident

11:20 pm on Monday, March 25, 2013

5 second google search....

http://njmonthly.com/articles/towns_and_schools/2012-top-high-schools-methodology.html

Also give a little insight as to why many schools rankings changed due to some graduation cohort thing.

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Spooner

12:32 pm on Tuesday, March 26, 2013

...your confirming what others have been saying: who gives two hoots about what NJ Monthly magazine said...

PS: oh by the way, that was your School Board that cut the budget in 2010, when they proffered an amended budget after the first budget was defeated, contrary to law. The Council could have approved the original budget with minor cuts if any, but they took the cowards way out and were complicit according to you, in affecting the schools ranking.

TJ

10:48 pm on Monday, March 25, 2013

If you want your child in a really small amount of H.S. students under one roof then this is the place for you. On the other hand you might not have as many classes offered to you as in a larger schools or friends. It just depends of your child and personal preference and why we get tuition students. To each their own. There is good things and bad things going on in any school. It is getting the school officials to do their job. Change and fix when something is wrong is the best approach for any school other wise the reputation will go down in any school. That could be a debate in any school. In comparison to many other schools in Ocean County I would have to say PPB H.S overall is rated very well based on how small they are which for some is very important. Most schools have more students in one grade level then what PPB has in their whole H.S. For some that is big...You have Lakewood, Toms River, Jackson, Howell, Brick, Pt.Pleasant that would be consider very large schools in comparison. I don't know how these school test, rank compared to PPB or where NJ Monthly Magazines has them, what I do know they are much larger in size.

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