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Point Beach Wins on Parking Plan, But Gets Sued Again on Bar Closings

Mayor says at council meeting, "I won't be intimidated by lawsuits."

 

A group including a marina, fishing boats and Point Beach residents failed for the second time to convince a court to temporarily put the brakes on the town's new parking plan.

Meanwhile, boardwalk businesses have filed their second legal action against the town's effort to close bars at midnight.

This time, Jenkinson's and Martell's have filed a lawsuit in Superior Court, which follows an appeal to the state Division of Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC).

That's not to be confused with the lawsuit the two largest boardwalk businesses filed to fight the District 4 parking plan.

For anyone keeping score, so far, it's Boardwalk 1, Point Beach 2.

The Boardwalk win was getting an injunction to be allowed to stay open until 2 a.m. until ABC makes a final decision on whether the town should be allowed to close bars at midnight.

As for Point Beach's score, it fended off two boardwalk efforts to try to get "a stay" on the enforcement of the District 4 parking plan.

And the battles and controversy rage on.

Mayor Vincent Barrella, at Tuesday night's council meeting, said he will not be intimidated by lawsuits.

"I won't be intimidated, I won't be harassed and attempts to intimidate me won't be productive," he said.

Regarding the lawsuit filed by the marina and fishing boats, the Appellate Division of Superior Court signed an order on Tuesday upholding Superior Court Assignment Judge Vincent Grasso's decision to not force the town to postpone enforcment of the District 4 parking plan.

The town has been issuing tickets since June 22, but has not yet collected any fines because Municipal Court Judge Liguori has said the town should not do so until pending litigation is resolved, said Municipal Attorney Sean Gertner at the council meeting.

The Appellate decision says the court is not granting the stay because "the appellants have yet to demonstrate" that the town will cause the businesses "irreparable harm" by enforcing the parking plan while waiting for the lawsuit to be ajudicated, according to a copy of the brief written decision.

Regarding the boardwalk's Superior Court lawsuit to try to permanently block midnight bar closings, the 27-page document was dated June 29 by Ronald Gasiorowski, attorney for Jenkinson's and Martell's, and dated July 3 by the court in Toms River.

"Enough is enough," Gertner said after the meeting. "This lawsuit is unnecessary litigation. They should have exhausted their administrative remedies," meaning the boardwalk should have waited for the outcome of the ABC appeal before filing suit.

Gertner said, "The additional litigation will be defended vigorously."

A state administrative law judge is expected to hear the ABC appeal. That decision will then go to ABC Director Michael Halfacre who granted "a stay" to allow bars to stay open until 2 a.m. until a final decision is made. Halfacre can either approve or not approve the decision by the administrative law judge.

The lawsuit regarding bar closings is filed against the governing body, the Borough of Point Beach, Barrella and Councilmembers Kristine Tooker, Bret Gordon and Michael Corbally, who have voted for the earlier bar closings and District 4 parking plan.

Dan Friendly, Ocean Avenue, told Barrella the town is hurting smaller bars a lot more than the two large boardwalk bars.

"Frankie's, Marlin's, Broadway Bar and Grill, the ARC, will all go out of business, Friendly said. "Innocent people, who never did anything to this council or this town are getting hurt because of the pissing contest between the Boardwalk and the council."

"You're pointing a finger in one direction," Barrella replied. "And you've done that before. There is always potential for a settlement. But there has to be a reasonable approach. You can't have meetings where you sit down in good faith to try to talk and then you get accused of extortion."

Gasiorowski, Jenkinson's attorney Ed McGlynn and Anthony Storino, one of the owners at Jenkinson's, were at the council meeting at first, but left a while before it ended. Patch did not call them afterwards due to the late hour, but will call Wednesday and follow the story as more information becomes available.

 

 

 

 

Related Topics: Appeals, Court, District 4 parking plan, Lawsuits, Martell's, Orders, Parking Tickets, jenkinson's, pending litigation, and rulings

Beach_N8iv

12:51 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Mayor says at council meeting, "I won't be intimidated by lawsuits."

. . . . AND he's willing to spend OUR very last dime to prove it! Look, I like the mayor, I've supported him in the past and will continue to do so in the future but THIS war on the boardwalk has GOT to stop! The collateral damage to small businesses and the people who depend on them for a living is unacceptable. It's time for the rest of the town (That's right, guys, more than ONE district in town and you were elected to represent ALL of us) stand up and tell the Gang of Four that enough is enough! The only people who are REALLY happy with all of this nonsense is Sean Gertner and a SMALL handful of VERY vocal squeaky wheels many of whom aren't even registered voters here. People are being hurt by this war, REAL PEOPLE, full time residents, REGISTERED VOTERS! Like it or not you represent us too. It's time you start acting like it.

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herbie

2:34 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

i really doubt that you supported the mayor

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Beach_N8iv

3:57 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

OH LOOK!!! It's me not particularly caring WHAT you believe. The fact IS: I don't have to agree with EVERY decision he makes to be a supporter. IN FACT, any politician I agree with 100% of the time is NOT doing his/her job.

Loves the Beach

8:04 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

As long as Barrella is Mayor it will never stop. He blames the Boardwalk, unfairly, for the recall. He has a personal vendetta against the Boardwalk. We an all see it. He wears it like a badge of honor. All of the residents of PPB and the businesses are paying because of Barrella's vendetta. For those of us who love the Beach, it is nauseating.

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herbie

2:34 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

what is the origin of this vendetta

Vinny G

8:12 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Ok, they said they need proof that the Parking Plan is causing businesses to lose money.....Well here it is. I go out on occassion with my wife and friends. One of our favorite places to go is the Tiki Bar to watch the bands and hang out for a while. We are not night owls by any means, but will sometimes stay out past midnight. (yes, we are crazy 40 somethings). The first time this year, we decided to stay past midnight, so before 12, I had to go move the car. It was anuneccessary inconvenience. The second and third times I went, we wanted to stay later, as well as some friends, but we all did not want to deal with shuffling the cars around and just left for the night. So there is 4 people that would have been patrons for another hour or two that the businesses lost out on. I'm sure there are MANY others as well. I will start heading to other places at this point. I was even more appaulled that it took me a extra couple minutes to get to my car, and at 12:04, there were 2 cops on the street checking and ticketing cars. It looked like a SWAT operation. Thankfully they were a few cars ahead of me and I was able to avoid the ticket. Who really needs the hassle of all this???

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herbie

9:23 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

vinny where did you come from that you drove. you do know that the silver lake lot is free in the evening from 11 at night to 6 in the morning. why didn't you park there you could have stayed to closing. did the bar tell you silver lake was free

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D4 Resident

2:12 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Well Herbie perhaps they arrived BEFORE 11. Free parking in the lot starting at 11 is no different than people having to move their cars at 12, just one hour earlier DUH.

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FS

10:37 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

What a great story teller you are? You said, your wife and you went occasionally? You went three times since the parking plan took effect. Do you know what the word occasionally means?

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herbie

2:35 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

D4 then they pay for an hour or two

SW

8:19 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

"I won't be intimidated by lawsuits" Nor Should He!!! I give the Mayor credit for standing his ground on important issue that affect the whole town. It does not matter if we are not REGISTERED VOTERS! We pay taxes like all the other squeaky wheels that deserve to get some sleep at night as all the other districts do. The businesses here need to realize that they can't run the town and threaten the town with "lawsuits" every time they do not get their way. They are the most squeaky wheels in town then any group. They constantly complain how they are not making any money, yet they continue to stay! If they do not like the town rules or laws that are implemented because of changes, then simply leave. Go to another town where you think they will allow your business to do whatever you want. I am tired of all the squeaky wheel businesses claiming they are not making money. If one thing happens, all the squeaky business claims they had a bad year. If they have one weekend of cloudy weather they will show a loss. The Mayor is standing up for all districts, because if district 4 goes down all the other districts will follow...including those in the "Library Section" that think they are their own separate town.

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A Resident

8:54 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

"including those in the "Library Section" that think they are their own separate town." - now that is funny. If any district thinks they are separate....look no further than D4.

and you do realize the bar closing ordinance affects many businesses, not just the 2 on the boardwalk you seem to be against......don't you?

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Beach_N8iv

9:06 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

As usual the squeakers in D4 have shown that they are their own town with their very own mayor and council. Who cares what happens to dozens of businesses and the people who are trying to make a living that have NOTHING to do with your exaggerated problems, right? Just as long as it quiets the squeakers for awhile. Who cares that ALL enforcement resources are concentrated on The Promised Land of D4? The rest of the town can do without as long as WE PAY FOR IT, right? I wonder who/what you malcontents will go after next.

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Former Beach Native

10:19 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

You knew what you were getting when you purchased your home near the boardwalk. For a few months out of the year, close your windows and crank up the air conditioners, for Pete's sake!

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The Coach

11:07 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Why not follow your own advice by leaving and going to another town where the businesses won't keep you awake?

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D4 Resident

2:16 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

YOU couldn't be more off base with your comments. I am a district 4 resident and have NEVER had the types of problems the few squeaky wheels including our mayor claim to have. It is all exaggerrated BS to justify our mayor's personal vendetta against the boardwalk. Anyone who cant see how nearly every small, locally owned and operated business in this town is being hurt is just too ignorant for words.

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Sal

9:08 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

A Resident, Come on man, you must know residents refer the "LIbrary Section" as "Milk and Honey Land". All the whiners in district 1&2 would never tolerate what has been happening to US in both districts 3&4. If they and their families were disrupted even once, their would be riots... They would be calling the town police every second, screaming and kicking until something got done.

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A Resident

8:25 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Sal,

Visit D1 and/or D2 during the wonderful Seafood festival. Traffic and parking in those districts is worse than most summer weekends in D4. And they don't ask for State Police and parking permits. Talk to people in D2 that live near the high school. Ask them how many days they can't park in front of their house due to teachers/students....bet it's more days than the D4 crowd deals with in summer.

But your right on one thing....there are certainly a lot more complaints coming from D4 than any other district.

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FS

12:40 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

A Resident, You are out of reality!!!! The Seafood Festival one day a Year! I think you need to spend more time in D4 if you think the parking is worse off in D2 because of teachers, students parking.... How many teachers or students do you know that needs to park after 12 midnight and come in before 6 in the morning? I highly doubt they are as rowdy as the bar patrons and summer rentals and the reason for the plan to begin with. To keep unruly tourist in the bw area out so we can get our sleep. The residents in district 2 will complain if someone gets to many UPS deliveries in one day. Give me a break!

Bystander

9:46 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

I have a family member working at Jenkinsen's and business has slowed down since
all this stuff has happened, so yes they are losing business. Is this the same mayor who wanted to put meters on EVERY street in Point Pleasant so even if you went to visit a friend or relative during the day you had to pay to park!?!?!??! Greed!

Chief Wahoo

10:11 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Boy I wish I owned the two bars .... I would close them down for good and watch the property taxes double on all the clowns complaining..... I would then buy the tax liens when they can't afford the property tax bills any longer and would kick them to the curb in 2 years and one minute

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Sal

9:26 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Now this is hysterical , are you brain dead.... even closing at 12, they make a tremendous amount of money. They would be cutting their nose off to spite themselves, I am sure you heard that before. Taxes would not double, there is many towns who do not have boardwalks with very little business and their taxes are even less then ours... So I am not buying it...We would not need all the police. If they did close those to bw bars at 12, everything would be fine.... Would they make less, yes, they would. Would they survive? Yes, they would. The town should get another free survey done, if the two bw bars closed down all together, how many police would we really need. Maybe 8 police.....

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A Resident

8:28 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Sal....

Are you saying there are no issues with anyone until after 12 closing? Have you read the comments on patch and the PD reports showing the relatively low number of violations reported between 12-6 as opposed to other hours?

PD reports just don't jive with your "If they did close those to bw bars at 12, everything would be fine".

Also, the DCA study showing a need for 24 police was based on year round, not just 3 months.

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Loves the Beach

1:08 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Sal 8 cops, really? How many police officers in your beloved Sea Girt and Spring Lake? (11 and 14). Right now we have 21. If the bars close at 12:00 we would need----21, not 8.

And why don't you explain why the town with the lowest taxes should be the only one who can charge bars for police, or do you think all bars in New jersey should pay for police?

Sounds like you just want the BW to pay because you think they make money. sounds like you are a Socialist, not a capitalist.

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Sal

9:53 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

A Resident, I read all these comments left on patch with what is going to happen to our town, nothing is giving a chance or tried...so many lies, spins to a possibility of what might happen. I am not saying I want the BW bars to go away or close at 12.... In my opinion, if the BW bars closed at 12, I really do feel their would be less problems and a lot less police needed. I also feel, if the BW decided to sell to developers and homes were developed we would need a lot less police... You are correct, the DCA was for all year around, based on a good part that the town has a boardwalk that is open all year. I don't know how many times I heard the police say the season is not 3 months out of the year any longer like some of the residents think. It is more like 9 months out of the year. Is the police being disingenuous? Do you really think this town will need all the police specials, ticket police if the BW bars closed at 12? Do you really think we need 24 police all year if the BW were to sell their property to developers? I do not think so, the residents is in the middle of this war. It seems to me the BW needs the police and the police needs the BW. Personally I think the residents could save a lot of money and their taxes would go down unless the politicians spent it on something else which is always a possibility.

Central avenue

10:37 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Classic line from the Brooklyn Buffoon- "There is always potential for a settlement. But there has to be a reasonable approach. You can't have meetings where you sit down in good faith to try to talk and then you get accused of extortion." Duh Vinne- trying to force businesses to pay via an ordinance is EXTORTION. The boardwalk owners tried to negotiate- $850,000 over five years- but Vinnie and the three stooges TURNED IT DOWN. Now we know why he is a FAILED attorney and has to teach instead- they had to have lauged him out of every courtroom and meeting he was in when he practiced. LOL

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nobody

11:19 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

I have said it over and over again. Barrella and Tooker are the King and Queen of PROPAGANDA!! They do not want a settlement they want controversy and to try to create some legacy for themselves. Vinnie is a typical cowardly MENTAL BULLY.

My Hometown

11:36 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

"Now the main streets whitewashed windows and vacant stores
Seems like there ain't nobody wants to come down here no more"
...never expected Bruce to be singing about My Hometown!
Wake up Fab 4! Stop with the heavy handed Big Brother Routine. Just walk the streets, the boards, the stores. The people have heard about the bullies and they are not showing up in our hometown! But that's what you wanted, wasn't it!?!

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The Coach

11:53 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Lets hope it doesn't get as far as Born To Run ... "It's a town for losers I'm pulling out of here to win".

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FS

10:23 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

We all know who you are? How many times do we have to read the Fab 4 from you? You along with a few of your Fab friends, who are all bw shills have to keep reinventing themselves to prove a point. It is not working, most point residents are smarter than what you give them credit for. We know all those who despise Mayor Barrella for changing what is necessary. Those who will turn anything around to keep the gravy train going for themselves...

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J. Henderson

10:34 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

There you go again with the Fab 4, same line under a different alias. You really need new material.

Opinionated

12:56 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

People of PPB: quit your crying. You wanted to be the punch line to pathetic joke when you voted for this glorified circus act. You had a chance in the recall and you still kept "Boo Hoo" Barrella. Live with it. Stop complaining and do another recall. As for me, I've taken my business elsewhere. My son received a parking summons there recently. I made a deal with him. I'll pay your fine, IF you stay away from that town. The deal was accepted.

My Hometown

1:08 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Opinionated, there are some of us who DID NOT vote for him (ever) and DID sign the recall. Where's the next recall sheet? Enough is enough!

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D4 Resident

2:18 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

YES get a recall going NOW!!!!

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nobody

3:10 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Sign me up!! and while were at it perhaps recalling a councilmen who has lied, mislead, and leaked sensitive documents should be on the list.

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Opinionated

6:07 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Though I cannot sign your petition, I wish you luck in your efforts.

2much2say

2:44 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Holy crap, I wish mayors, law enforcement, swat teams and others put forth the same amount of effort, time and money to get the drug dealers, drugs and all the other scum off the streets instead of creating drama for people who just want to have some fun-geez!

Mike Corbally

2:52 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Lets go to mediation. Letting an unbiased 3rd party balance the needs of the night clubs with the quality of life of the taxpayers/residents would be welcome by me.

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nobody

3:15 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Mediation will only work if you are willing to be honest and upfront. Based on recent events you do not seem to have those traits!!

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A Resident

3:30 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

You sure Mr. Corbally you want to do that? Can you show us what quality of life issues exist due to Frankies? 709? The Ark? The Offshore? Your 12 closing affects ALL of those places too.

How many places in town are affected by this 12 ordinance and have no impact on qualtiy of life issues for D4? Arbitrator would crush the town on this one.

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Opinionated

6:13 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Mr. Corbally, It sadly seems to have gone beyond that. The only solution for your town is change. Just think of PPB as a jukebox and yours is a one note song. PPB needs leaders who are willing to work for ALL of the people and to play well with others.

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The Coach

9:44 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

No mediation! Put it on the ballot in November or are you afraid of democracy??

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Beach_N8iv

3:05 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Put it on the ballot? You mean like the parking scam? Sure, why not, they can just ignore the results like they did with the parking scam.

My Hometown

3:11 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

I prefer the Recall by the taxpayers/residents who KNOW what's going on and are fed up with it!

ROSE

4:23 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

For a little bit more than paying to park you can get a cab. Then no hunting for a space or having to move the car ever.

BeachMom

4:44 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Way to go Vinnie! Keep spending our money! There is more to this town than district 4....What are you doing for the other districts???

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herbie

2:39 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

so the liver said to the lungs "all she is worried about is the heart"

My Hometown

4:55 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Right, Rose...so two couples, let's say from Brick, should hire a taxi to go enjoy the boardwalk and a few drinks. Is that how it works? Scary.

Mr. Happy

5:02 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

A Superior Court judge and the Appallete Court both rule against the BW.
Harbingers of things to come folks. Sorry, Mike, but lets's not try mediation.
Town's gonna win the parking lawsuit it seems, might as well go for it all and let a judge look at the bar closing suit. We see what happens when a real judge makes a decision. As to the "recall" - there are more supporters of the Mayor on my block alone than the half dozen haters here on Patch. But, what the heck, go for it!

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The Coach

9:47 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

You are going to lose (you already have once) and you will be unHappy, but I'll buy you a drink a Jenks at 12:01AM to console you.

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Sal

10:15 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Coach, I would not count your chickens before they are hatch! Not that long ago, so many bragged that attorney John Jackson hands down was the better lawyer. I guess they were wrong. Do not under estimate attorney Sean Gertner. Attorney John Jackson is still upset that the Mayor did not recommend appoint him as an attorney..

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Nick Carraway

10:47 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Mr. Happy, you must either live near the corner of Niblick and Lake Terrace or on the 600 block of Atlantic Avenue.

Loves the Beach

5:36 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Mr. Happy. We all hope and pray you and the folks on your block and the rest of the dwindling number of Barrella supporters continue to believe the people are with them. As long as Barrella believes he is right he will continue down this same path. And then Tooker, Corbally, Gordon and Barrella will suffer the same fate as his buddy Loder. Thank God.

Spooner

6:00 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Happy- I'd be paying more attention to the new lawsuit filed by Ronald Gasiorowski. . .Would love to read their(BW) Complaint. . .

...and "mediation" coming from Corbally now. . .gee maybe he'll have an open bar at Frankies. . .and we could all celebrate his brilliant idea!

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herbie

9:21 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

come on you have it already

Joseph Woolston Brick

6:28 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Years ago, there was a movement to try and give a discount on beach fees to residents and charge tourists more. The powers that be said, Oh no we can't do that, that would be discrimination and we would be sued. How is this parking ordinance any different?

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herbie

9:16 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

ones a beach the other is a parking space

none of yobusiness

6:59 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

I use to enjoy going to the boardwalk from Brick and drop a hundred here and there eating, drinking and playing games. Not a chance Im going there now. I bet you Im not alone. Remember what Asbury use to look like when nobody came there? That is your future.

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herbie

9:15 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Take a look at seaside that is your future if changes aren't made.

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herbie

9:20 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

so you won't come and play reindeer games because you have to pay a couple of bucks to park if you get to the beach before 11

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The Coach

9:50 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Ignore Herbie because last week he thought that the 12AM Ordinance had gone through and Bars had actually closed at 12AM before the ABC overruled it. A few folks attempted to correct him

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herbie

2:41 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

coach the ordinance was in effect until the abc stepped in

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A Resident

9:37 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

"coach the ordinance was in effect until the abc stepped in" - yes, but the time of enforcement had not yet occurred. So no bars were forced to close @ 12 before the ABC ruling.

JD

9:56 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Question to PPB residents in D4...
If the parking ban of 12-6 stays into effect...
why do you have a problem with the bars staying open until 2am..
allegedly those going to the bars were urinating in lawns and being disruptive...
since they can't/won't park there... there shouldn't be any problems anymore...
otherwise, it is the renters or weeklys that are causing problems and that won't change even with a midnight bar closing.

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The Coach

8:56 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Because nothing will satisfy the D4 whiners until every tourist has left the town

Nick Carraway

10:25 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

The fact that Barrella views the filing of lawsuits as an attempted act of intimidation should be seen as more proof of his vendetta/feud with the BW businesses. What a lawsuit does is to reach out to an independent, objective party (the courts) to ask for a decision as to whether something is legal or not. Barrella has already demonstrated that he is unwilling to accept someone as being an independent, objective party when he accused the Director of the ABC of being biased due to some far-reaching connections. Wake up! These people, judges and the ABC, are put in place by people far outside of PPB, and they have promised, as part of their oaths, to be objective. The Director of the ABC is in charge of alcoholic beverage consumption for the entire State of NJ. Councilman Corbally, these lawsuits will do exactly what you're asking for. Everyone should respect the fact that they are decisions being made by independent third parties who are performing the roles they have promised to perform and are rendering unbiased decisions. It's the Barrella bloc that voted in the parking plan & early bar closings, and it's only those who claim they have been injured by the decisions who can file the lawsuits, and reach out to those independent third parties. Negotiations regularly failed. Everyone should be grateful that now someone outside of PPB will get to decide who is right and who is wrong. Maybe then we'll have some peace in our town.

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herbie

2:57 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

can you bury your head any deeper in the sand

Sal

10:31 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

I am almost sure there is ordinances in place for rowdy renters and weeklies. If they are going to be loud, wild and trouble throw them out on their you know what.

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Nick Carraway

10:44 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Sal, I went to a Council meeting about a year ago, and heard Tooker say that she was working on putting a Code Enforcement Task force in place, to do exactly what you've suggested...fine the rowdy renters and put the landlords in a place where their rentals might be termed as "animal houses" under our current ordinance. Do you know if Tooker ever managed to get that Code Enforcement Task force up and running or is it still in the works?

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vic

6:46 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Nick, Tooker is more concerned with the furry 4 legged animals.

CommonSense'sSon

10:33 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Sounds like driveways and fences might solve a lot of the crying going on here*

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Nick Carraway

10:45 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Fences do help to create some of the best neighbors.

A Real Lawyer

7:01 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Sal: What Gertner won was a motion, in essence an argument in front of a judge. Jackson had to convince the Judge that the marina and party boat owners would be “irreparably harmed” if the parking plan continued. Judge said no, if they are damaged the Town can make them whole by just paying money.

So it was not about who is the better lawyer, it was about the bar being really high for Jackson and really low for Gertner. Injunctions are rare, which is why Barrella is so pissed off at the ABC.

But now there will be a trial in front of a jury, and, believe it or not, Gertner has only tried one case to a jury in his entire career as a lawyer, and he lost. (political hacks don’t get hired to try cases in Court by anybody who really wants to win) Jackson, on the other hand, has tried so many cases to a jury, and won, that the Supreme Court awarded him the rare trail attorney certification. (of 68,000 lawyers in the state only 1450 are certified). http://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/supreme_doc/njbac/

This is why Corbally is talking about mediation. It is because Barrella’s political hack has no chance in front of a jury.

If Barrella cared about PPB and thought the parking plan was important he would have hired one of those other 1450 certified lawyers to defend PPB.

Anybody want to guess why he did not?

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Mike Corbally

3:16 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

No! I'm talking about mediation because I believe the town is legally allowed to control its streets and hours of operation. If I'm right, we will end up sitting down and working out a fair compromise that works for everyone. If I'm wrong, and we can't control our streets and hours of operation, we shouldn't bother with anymore local elections. We can just pass the keys to the highest bidder.

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Spooner

4:49 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Mike- How do you explain your Council vote on the early bar closing Ordinance(2012-13) that was voted down at the April 17, 2012 meeting...you were the only one who voted for it? Better yet: how is your attorney going to explain that away to the ABC commissioner. . .

So let me see if I have this correct...now your saying: "the town is legally allowed to control it's hours of operation". . .but your Council voted against it in April. . .then almost a month later, Tooker & Gordon changed their mind. . .and you don't see the ABC having an issue! So what happened from April to May warranting a vote change?

http://www.pointpleasantbeach.org/news.php?action=fullnews&id=1385
http://www.pointpleasantbeach.org/news.php?action=fullnews&id=1407

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A Real Lawyer

8:14 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

And why do you believe that Councilman? Listening to that hack Gertner and your buddy Gelson? Municipalities do not have the same powers as a sovereign state or the federal government. In fact, municipalities only have the powers given by the State.
And although municipalities do have the authority to control hours of operation for “proper purposes.” You gave up the right to control the hours of operation when you listened to Gertner and tried to impose the local option taxes even though the State said no when you asked for the authority to impose those taxes. And the State has never given control of roads to municipalities. That is why the DOT has to sign off on all ordinances affecting any road and the County has to sign off on all ordinances affecting County Roads.

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A Real Lawyer

8:14 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

And if you really thought you were right, and Gertner could get it done, why would you want to deal with the big bad BW. Your squeaky wheel supporters would not like that at all.
And you are also correct that municipal elections do not elect the people empowered to do the things you are trying to do, because these things affect the entire state, it is the state legislators who are empowered to do these things.
Local elections are about electing the people who will raise the money necessary to maintain the town (Public Works) and keep it safe (Police). Maybe if you focused on what you were elected to do, instead of trying to do what the Assembly and Senate are supposed to do, we would not have an over $250.00 per house tax increase.

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herbie

11:47 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

i always wonder about someone who calls themselves "real lawyer" what fourth rate law school did you get your law degree or did you get it through an online diploma mill

The Coach

8:54 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Beach_N8iv. You have it backwards. I would like to see that both the Parking and Bar Closing Ordinances on a ballot because I believe that the voters will see through the scams and D4 whiners and vote the Parking Ordinance down and allow the Bars to stay open until 2AM. I think we are on the same side.

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Beach_N8iv

2:54 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Coach, we already voted the parking scam down and the Mayor and Council of District 4 decided that we didn't REALLY mean to do that and put it in anyhow. The only way we will get our point across is to vote them out, I guess. I think that once the legal bills from this boneheaded action come due THAT will be pretty easy to do.

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Mike Corbally

3:19 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

The vote was for a town wide parking plan. Did you really expect that to pass?

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Beach_N8iv

6:10 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

No, I expected it to fail. I also expected "our" elected officials to respect the will of the people that put them in office. Silly me.

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LM

6:30 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

B_N8, it is possible it failed because some put their nose in to something they should not have. It passed in D4 where it is needed the most and the reason it was put in as a pilot parking plan to see how it played out. Everyone had to job on a ban wagon to prove their point which made things worse with misinformed information.

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nobody

9:01 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Mike did you really ask this question? We did not expect to vote against something and have a majority also vote against and then have our elected officials ignore our will!!!

Nick Carraway

9:17 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Coach, the missing piece of this whole puzzle, in my opinion, is the police. Some want to say that the parking plan is working. Why? Is it that tourists simply follow directions as posted on signs? If that's the case, then we should simply post signs that say "Use a toilet, not the grass." No. It's not the signs. It's the cops who are out there ticketing. People follow the rules because they're afraid of some type of punishment, and it works for both the parking plan and the bad behavior. We have lawsuits because of two proposed solutions to the problems, when the one solution that is most likely the best solution, is plugging away because we finally properly staffed our police department. The parking plan wouldn't work without police enforcement, but the police enforcement, alone, might've been enough without the parking plan. The town should've tried one solution at a time. They could've taken the money, maybe even just for one year, and then decided to review whether the police were enough to solve the problem next year. Barrella would still have had his bloc of votes next year, so he could've gotten it done then if the residents weren't happy with what the police were able to do this year.

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The Coach

12:50 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Nick I can go either way on the parking as I think it helps discourage the bad behavior without killing business. Its really the 12 Oclock Bar Closing I am against.

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vic

6:53 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Coach, I believe the best way to discourage bad behavior is to have a uniformed police officer patrolling our streets.

Nick Carraway

9:26 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

A Real Lawyer, you mentioned that the town may have to pay money to make these people whole? I never realized that. I thought these lawsuits were just about whether the early bar closings are legal and whether the parking plan is legal. I figured if one side one, then the parking plan and early bar closings would remain, and if the other side one, then they'd go away. Do you mean to say that if these boat owners and BW businesses can prove that the parking plan actually hurt their businesses, the town would have to pay money to them? I really didn't realize that there was a money component to all of this.

Spooner

10:20 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

According to yesterdays APP article about the BW filing new lawsuit to "be made whole". . . Jenkinson is reporting their revenue is down 15%...with beach revenue down 3-4%. Claiming that towns actions have caused this...not to mention all that bad publicity(was that you Mayor responsible for that) Now want Court to award damages.

PS: while were looking at lawyer pedigree. . .has the Mayor ever tried a Civil action?

http://www.app.com/article/20120718/NJNEWS/307180124/Point-Pleasant-Beach-bars-file-new-lawsuit-over-midnight-closing

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Laura

11:25 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Don't know how they are going to attribute decrease in revenue to the parking plan. Just talked to someone who has a stand in Seaside. Business is terrible. Should we blame the parking plan in the Beach for Seaside's slump? How much of a decrease in revenue in Seaside have the Storino's seen. I guess that would prove if the parking plan was the cause,wouldn't it?

Any money that the business's spend fighting the town is a business expense. It's tax deductible. They could end up paying less taxes.

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The Coach

12:53 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

It does seem emptier on the beach and the boardwalk but the parking plan wouldn't effect the beach since it it s nighttime ordinance. The bar business could be affected by the parking but could be the economy or both facts plus there are people who still think the bars close at 12 at aren't coming.

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My Hometown

1:20 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Could it be that the town it is emptier due to the Bloomberg report informing the tourists of the urination and defecation problem on the streets????

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Nick Carraway

1:54 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Certain members of the Council have had their heads in the sand for far too long. It was only a matter of time before the bad economy crept into PPB and affected the tourism industry, which has been my main concern about all of these measures from the beginning. PPB's budget depends on tourism, and residents need to realize that our town is in the tourism business along with the BW and all of our other local businesses. Now was simply not the time to declare that PPB is anti-tourist because we were lucky to get those tourist dollars and it was only a matter of time until our luck ran out due to the abismal economy. People who will lost their jobs simply won't be able to find new ones, which means that they'll be collecting unemployment, unable to pay their property taxes...and the downward cycle just keeps on spinning.

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herbie

2:46 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

nick you are the one with your head in the sand

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Nick Carraway

4:16 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Herbie, rather than simply spout out some crass comment, why don't you try rationally responding to what I posted? Are you aware that our country is in a serious economic crisis, and has been so for many years? Does PPB generate a significant amount of money from tourism? Certainly, you can dispute with me as to whether the timing of these actions were inappropriate, but I do not think that any of the other statements I made in my above post are up for dispute. Or, do you seriously believe that PPB lives in such a bubble that neither its full-time residents nor its tourists would ever be affected by the terrible state of our economy?

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herbie

11:50 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

i get it our contribution to the economic recovery is to allow people to p*ss and sh*t on peoples property. why do you insist that drinking = tourism.

FS

11:37 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

You are all living in a "Dream World" if you think all the resident who is living in point pleasant is dumb enough to believe those few here on the patch. That most know is bw shills friends going back and fourth with each other who will say anything. Most are aware of the few bw shills going back and fourth with each other is Barrella haters who are out for REVENGE!

Loves the Beach

12:24 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

FS. Who is living in a "Dream World?" George Loder, the candidate endorsed by Barrella Tooker & Gordon lost to Stephen Reid and Andy Cortes by more than 150 votes 6 weeks ago. You don't really think the more than 450 people who voted for Reid are all "bw shills and friends" do you? And while you are at it how it is that more than 850 people voted for someone other than Barrella last election? The only one looking for revenge is your boy Barrella who blames the boardwalk, unfairly, for the recall. But do keep posting your dream because with each word out of Barrella's mouth and each word posted on the patch by his supporters like you and Cathy Kelly and Darlene Motta and the Diazs more and more ordinanry folk see this clearly. Thank God.

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LM

4:28 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

LTB, You're jumping out way to soon to claim victory!! It is way to early in the game to say who is going to win the point beach election. Not everyone comes out during primary...it is the summer. Most don't care... It could be the fact, not many residents cared to vote for George Loder. I will agree that Reid and Cortes has a following. Yes, it is a game of REVENGE... If you can't see that then I would ALSO have to say that you are in a "Dream World" Can't you see both sides have supporters, and it is more than the few that you mentioned. Or maybe you are blind? Look at just a few of bw shills supporters who blame Barrella that keep on posting their attacks on the patch that ordinary folks who can clearly see his supporters like you, Kevin Roridan the prior PPB lawyer that was not appointed again as well as his wife, Councilmen Reid and his family, Councilmen Mayer and his family, Tim Lurie, Bob Santinello, The Dixon's, The Capriglione's, John Jackson, Bw employee's that don't even live here, point Boro employee's that don't live here... I find it funny that it is ok, yet they don't want p/t residents that do own, not to have a say... I love all the one sided examples that are constantly given out. Two sets of standards does not work.

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Loves the Beach

8:17 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

LM, nobody is claiming victory. You said, and I admit it is difficult to understand exactly what you are trying to say, but your post was “That most know is bw shills friends going back and fourth with each other who will say anything. Most are aware of the few bw shills going back and fourth with each other is Barrella haters who are out for REVENGE!.” I pointed out that based on the results of the last two elections (November and June, only one of which was in the summer) your comment was incorrect; there are a lot more folks who can see Barrella is bad for PPB than you imagine. In fact “most” have voted against Barrella in the last two elections.

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Loves the Beach

8:17 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

As for revenge, the folks you mention, Jackson, Riordan, Mayer, Reid, Lurie, Santinello, Dixon’s etc never supported Barrella. Some supported Vogel, some supported DeCicio, but none supported Barrella, ever. And all of them have stated publically that they are not for Barrella because he makes up the need for unnessary change to feed his ego and win elections. First it was cut cops and cut the school, and then it was the BW must pay for the cops. So where is the revenge in that? Why is it that you are incapable of believing that there are people who have honest disagreements with the direction Barrella has taken the Beach? It is not “revenge” that causes people to say Barrella is destroying the Beach to feed his ego, and his vendetta; it is simply common sense based on what Barrella has said and done since he moved to town.

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Cathy Kelly

10:26 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

loves the beach, I think you should get help for this unhealthy obsession you have with me. I have stayed away and not commented because I know who most are on here and quite frankly I have been considering the source and realizing that it is not worth my time,but this is the second or third comment in the last week on different articles where you have brought my name up even though I was not involved in the comments...Obsessions are unhealthy!!!!!!

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Loves the Beach

8:51 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

Ms. Kelley I did not know you cared. But now that I do I’ll be sure to mention you each and every time I can. Thanks for the infor.

PS Doesn’t it just kill you that you can never say who you think I am, and you will never know for sure?

FS

12:57 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Laura, They can't prove or attribute a decrease in revenue to a parking plan, no more than the town, state or federal government can prove how much they really make. According to all these guys they are never doing good. Don't give them any ideas Seaside will soon be up 20% in revenue. I do see your point in the cost of their lawyers to fight the town is a business expense deductible that could result up in paying less taxes.... If they lose in their defense in the latest frivolous lawsuit attempt I think they should start paying for the towns lawyer expense too.

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Cathy Kelly

9:30 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

Loves the Beach, hahahahahahahahahaha.....like I said obsessions are unhealthy......I know who you are and who your family is employed by as well. As for where you work(the consensus there is that you have been tolerated by many for years but by far from liked by anyone) haha...Wasn't a big surprise.....keep spouting your nonsense because people know where it is coming from and it keeps everyone laughing....

Loves the Beach

3:41 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

FS. I see you have no answer as to his in the "Dream World." What does how much they make have to do with it? Is this take from those who can afford to give and give to those that need? That's socialism----very popular in some European Countries. Here we have capitalism.

And should the bars get their attorneys fees paid if they win? Again attorney's fees get paid by the loser in Europe, not in America.

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J. Henderson

11:36 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

I would call it more like scamalism.

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Cathy Kelly

9:35 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

there is a song that just keeps playing over and over in my head,,,,It's called "School's out for the summer" you probably know it seeing how smart you are...such a great lesson you are teaching the young people of today.....Say anything you want as long as you hide yourself and noone knows your saying it.......pathetic......

Mr. Happy

3:59 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Hi A Real Lawyer- You may want to review the transcript of the Grasso decision before you praise Mr. Jackson and slam Mr. Gertner. You may change your tune.

A Real Lawyer

5:38 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Please post it Mr. Happy I am sure all would like to review.

Spooner

5:55 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Mr Happy- in today's Coast Star on page 17, Belmar is reporting a 21.5% increase in beach badge sales. Meanwhile Jenkinsons is reporting their beach revenue is down 3-4%. . .don't think there's an issue there. . .not to mention a 15% reduction in their overall revenue. . .As 'Nick Carraway' pointed out: wonder how many other non BW businesses are being affected? I'm sure you and D4 squeaks could care less. . .

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Cathy Kelly

10:34 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Belmar charges $7 for a daily Beach Badge and $50 for a seasonal Badge. According to Jenkinsons website, Jenks charges $8 during the week and $9 on weekends for a daily Beach badge and $85 for seasonal badges. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that,but it could possibly have something to do with Belmars beach revenue being up.....

Mr. Happy

6:41 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Hi Real Lawyer- Spooner is the masterposter of the links on Patch. I'm sure he will be glad to post the transcript, if available, of the Grasso decision.

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A Real Lawyer

8:12 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Mr. Happy, are you telling me you posted about the transcript without reading a copy? Shame on you. And if you read a copy you should share it with us, why should someone else have to dig up what you read and are commenting about?

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Nick Carraway

8:53 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

A Real Lawyer, I think that Mr. Happy is trying to suggest that he didn't need to read the transcript because he was present during the hearing.

LM

6:42 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Spooner.. What does Belmar have to do with Jenks? Two entirely different towns. Belmar is owned by the town. Jenks is a privately owned beach. What was both their sales from last year? Being Jenks is privately owned they have much more leeway... to do what they want. They can give free beach badges out and show a loss for all we know. Maybe visitors like Monmouth County Beaches vs. Ocean County Beaches. Maybe Belmar's visitors have become upscale compared to the visitors going to PPB. I am almost sure it would be hard to pin point Why? Someone would rather go somewhere else than PPB. It could be numerous complaints.

The Coach

7:28 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

The bars are open until 2AM for all to enjoy !!

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J. Henderson

11:33 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Good then everyone go to Belmar for a drink.

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J. Henderson

8:19 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

Yes, Go to Belmar Bars after 12 for a drink...even though they don't really want any of our tourist there.

Nick Carraway

8:52 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Councilman Corbally, earlier today you posted: "The vote was for a town wide parking plan. Did you really expect that to pass?" You were the one who made the motion last year to put that parking plan question on the ballot, and you were the one who supported the idea that the question should concern a "townwide" parking plan. What type of game are you playing? Now, you're saying that you never expected the townwide question to pass. Are you suggesting that it was your intention, all along, to put a parking plan into D4 and, if so, why didn't you simply make that the ballot question?

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Jane Reynolds

9:08 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

and there have been many comments of councilman Lurie, Dyer and Reid to recuse themselves from voting due to work they may have done with those businesses in the past....well perhaps Corbally, tookeralla and barrella should recuse themselves from voting on issues that have to do with D4(the peoples republic) since they live there and directly benefit or could be considered a conflict...

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herbie

11:53 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

because your boys on the council insisted it be town wide

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Spooner

12:14 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

herbie- don't want "town wide" voting. . .got a solution for you and the other squeakies. . .submit a petition to the Council requesting annexation of District 4 west of Ocean Ave...south of Broadway...east of the railroad tracks...and north of Arnold Ave...

Just think: you could have your own police if you want...DPW, if you want. . .and make all the laws affecting your neighbors. . .that should be perfect for you and the rest of the elk there?

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herbie

1:51 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

funny comment from someone who doesn't live in ppb

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vic

7:38 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Nick, you might be on to something. Corbally and Barella probably figured that the town wide parking plan wouldn't pass. Sounds like their true intentions were to implement restricted parking in D4 and hit the BW where it hurts.

Jane Reynolds

9:02 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

comments from the article in the press on this subject...

Mr. Gasiorowski is wasting everybody’s time and the taxpayer’s money,” the mayor said in response to the latest lawsuit.

Borough Attorney Sean Gertner said, “I think they should exhaust their administrative remedies before causing the borough to expend needless funds to defend another litigation.”

Interesting that the mayor and attorney have made these comments beause at the June 6, 2012 council meeting in an exchange between the mayor and attorney, and I quote:
Mayor: you're representing the borough on the two suits that have been brought...
Gertner: Yes
Mayor: okay. can you tell us right now what the figures are on that?
Gertner: Well your insurance has provided a defense. So that there's not out-of-borough resources providing the defense.
Mayor: So the borough is not paying the legal fees?
Gertner: yes
public record people...your can't have it both ways

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herbie

11:54 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

both of those were parking -- the jackson suit and the boardwalk suit

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Spooner

12:27 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

herbie- OS reporting Gasiorowski lawsuit parallelling BW Federal parking suit. . .and required for future litigation.

http://starnewsgroup.com/weekly/2012/07.20.12/another_laws_07.20.12_72736.html?featured=*

Loves the Beach

9:22 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Jane Reynolds. Excellent job demonstrating, undeniably, that Barrella and Gertner do not care about the truth. Instead, they are trying to pull the wool over the people's eyes for their own selfish political purposes. Wake up dwindling Barrella supporters!!! You are supporting a lying politician who doesn't care about the Beach, doesn't care about our schools, our police, or our quality of life. All he cares about is keeping himself in power and giving his cronies our tax dollars.

J. Henderson

11:26 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Jane, The same old BW stories are old and far fetched. We all know why you are telling stories. You are one of many BW cronies....No one is lying or pulling the wool over the people's eye more than the BW and his whiners.

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Loves the Beach

7:05 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

J Henderson. No story by Ms. Reynolds. She provided quotes from the public record. We see you have the Barrella playbook down. When someone posts the truth about the manipulative lies Barrella and Gertner spread, and what they have posted simply cannot be denied, then you attack the messenger and try to pretend that because of who the messenger is, the message can’t be true. You don’t really think the people of PPB are that dumb, do you? Then again, maybe, like Barrella, you think you are sooo much smarter than the rest of us. But we see it. To repeat:

Jane Reynolds’ post above at 9:02 PM demonstrates, undeniably, that Barrella and Gertner do not care about the truth. Instead, they are trying to pull the wool over the people's eyes for their own selfish political purposes. Wake up dwindling Barrella supporters!!! You are supporting a lying politician who doesn't care about the Beach, doesn't care about our schools, our police, or our quality of life. All he cares about is keeping himself in power and giving his cronies our tax dollars.

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Jane Reynolds

10:22 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

Henderson.......those are facts taken from the article written in the press and from the account of the June 12, 2012 council meeting.........try facts before you call some one a liar...you are the one telling stories! and for the record I didn't write the comment about lying or pulling the wool over anyone's eyes........try the facts instead of your BS

J. Henderson

11:32 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Jane, Former Councilmen Dyer did not recuse himself enough. How do you think Reid got his seat on council> He was place their by Dyer, Who voted him in on council and then resigned about 3 seconds later. Talk about set ups...They also brought Rizzo from the dead, after missing 6 council meetings he some how mustered his way to the council to vote Reid in also...... Nice spinning from the BW whiners.

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Loves the Beach

7:01 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

J. Henderson: You really are so far up Barrella’s you know what that you just buy whatever he tells you, don’t you? Or do you just make this nonsense up yourself? Dyer did not vote for Reid, and could not vote for Reid, because before ANY Council members voted Dyer had to have already resigned. His resignation is what caused the vacancy. Dumb and dumber.

Link to the minutes:
http://www.pointpleasantbeach.org/news.php?action=fullnews&id=1291

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Jane Reynolds

10:25 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

and corbally, tookerella and barrella didn't recuse themselves at all...facts no spinning or whining......the whining has been monopolized they the few residents of the peoples republic that aren't happy with the choices they made.......you fit right in

Spooner

11:52 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

LM- a Belmar comparison written by the daughter of the Barrella mouth piece Paul Mulshine(nj.com), sums up Belmar as it relates to to what's happening in PPB. Last year they were getting the same complaints from residents. . .What was different. . .Barrella and his minions weren't running that town!

http://starnewsgroup.com/weekly/2011/09.22.11/residents_fe_09.22.11_82086.html

Loves the Beach

7:05 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

J Henderson. No story by Ms. Reynolds. She provided quotes from the public record. We see you have the Barrella playbook down. When someone posts the truth about the manipulative lies Barrella and Gertner spread, and what they have posted simply cannot be denied, then you attack the messenger and try to pretend that because of who the messenger is, the message can’t be true. You don’t really think the people of PPB are that dumb, do you? Then again, maybe, like Barrella, you think you are sooo much smarter than the rest of us. But we see it. To repeat:

Jane Reynolds’ post above at 9:02 PM demonstrates, undeniably, that Barrella and Gertner do not care about the truth. Instead, they are trying to pull the wool over the people's eyes for their own selfish political purposes. Wake up dwindling Barrella supporters!!! You are supporting a lying politician who doesn't care about the Beach, doesn't care about our schools, our police, or our quality of life. All he cares about is keeping himself in power and giving his cronies our tax dollars.

J. Henderson

8:16 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

Loves the Beach, You are correct, my error...Good thing.... Dyer did resign, he was ruthless on decisions he made and the damage he caused. It was Rizzo they dragged out by the Republican leaders of this town. The" Boardwalk Stogies" He missed a least 12 council meetings in a row and the group allowed him to vote any way. It was an absolute joke. Dyer was no better on the other hand, He quit his responsibility as a councilmen, he cut it short a second after he voted "NO on emergency funding for the town needs...which I was under the impression it included police funding, Dyer had issues with the police. He bragged that he was so busy with his boardwalk accounts. This is an example of a man who fooled the residents to vote him in as councilmen because he claimed he wanted to help the residents of this town, the only thing he was worried about was himself and how he can benefit by profits by no other than the boardwalk. It is funny how all these councilmen turn out to be boardwalk shills once they get voted in. Opps, or maybe that was the plan from the beginning on the campaigning trail. Jane works for the boardwalk, most likely you do too. They are trained monkeys for the boardwalk that will say or twist anything in their favor...they will try to discredit anyone who speaks the truth about the boardwalk and their shenanigans, that have been going on for a long time. How does the saying go? You can fool the people some of the time, certainly not all the time.

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Jane Reynolds

10:34 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

Henderson............try again.....jane doesn't work for the boardwalk..........once again try the facts!!!!!!!

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Jane Reynolds

10:36 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.

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herbie

11:56 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

she got you henderson -- its her husband that works for the boardwalk

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Jane Reynolds

12:15 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

herbie...yup one night a week my husband is a bartender....so what

Loves the Beach

8:47 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

J. Henderson. More made up nonsense. You are as bad as Gertner and Barrella, making up whatever lies suit you. First it was Dyer voted for Reid for Council, now it is that Dyer wasn’t trying to do the right thing for residents. Sure he was. Dyer thought the right thing to do for residents was to cut expenses and cut taxes. He was wrong. But cutting expenses and taxes was unpopular, but Dyer kept trying because he believed it was right, even though he knew it meant he would never get re-elected. Unlike Barrella who has changed his position based on which way the wind was blowing so often he has no idea what the truth is anymore. Unlike Barrella Dyer wasn’t doing what he thought would make him popular, he was doing what he thought was right for the residents. Barrella, on the other hand, will lie and cheat and do whatever he has too in order to keep himself in power and his cronies on the gravy train.

J. Henderson

9:10 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

Loves the Beach, Sure....Nice try, but to many seen the writing on the wall with former councilmen Dyer. He did not run because of the shameful display he put on. To busy at the boardwalk making money. The only cheat and liar was former councilmen Dyer. The power on the gravy train was him. He was added to the long list of boardwalk cronies. Give the residents some credit. Not as dumb as you think they are. Sure he was, had no problem spending money for his own selfish reasons. "Fiscal Conservative" that he portrayed...Just more lies.

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Loves the Beach

9:34 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

No proof, right? Just nonsense you make up, just like Barrella. Make it up, say it enough, maybe a few losers will believe it. Residents are onto this game, and the game is over. But do keep posting, we love it when you make stuff up and are exposed.

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Loves the Beach

9:36 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

And it is "too many saw" not "to many seen." You obviously did not go to Antrim, did you?

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herbie

11:57 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

ltb are youi saying that dyer didn't take a job with the bw while on council

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Loves the Beach

12:56 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

herbie. If you have proof, let's see it. If not, you are just making up what you want to believe. I don't see him bartending, do you? What job did he take? How much does he make from this phantom job? More Barrella nonsense. Doesn't he own his own company?

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herbie

2:00 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

from 11/23/11 patch article "dyer resigns"

"Dyer has said his company, Shore Mobile Marketing, which sells marketing systems using mobile devices, has had Jenkinson's as a client for a number of months. That has prompted him to recuse himself from votes regarding Jenkinson's, although he has often still opined on those matters.

There have been rumors during the past few months that the owners of Jenkinson's wanted Dyer to be replaced with a pro-Jenkinson's council member, so they would once again have another friendly vote on council, rather than Dyer who always has to recuse himself.

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Loves the Beach

2:36 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Finally, herbie, some back up. Now let’s not forget this part of the article:

"Dyer said on Tuesday night there is absolutely no truth to those rumors and that no representative of Jenkinson's or any of their supporters asked him to leave.

'No one asked me to resign,' he said."

And the truth is he did not take “a job” with the Boardwalk, instead Jenk’s was a client of his mobile marketing company. Little different, don't you think? And why would Jenk’s become a client and ask him to resign because they are a client, if they thought they had him in their pocket? Not making much sense, is it herbie.

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herbie

5:41 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

no its not a little different since the money still ended up in his pockets. what about all the votes before they became a client. do you think that is maybe why they ended up as a client

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Loves the Beach

6:15 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Nope, don't think so. Think if that was the case would have been ethics charges filed by Barrella, bur he did not do that, did he? Think Shore Mobile was the only firm doing that kind of marketing. But I'm sure it is much more fun to imagine this grand intricate conspiracy.

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J. Henderson

10:52 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Loves the Beach, "to many saw or seen...Whatever!!!! You are the on who is making it all up... Exposed????,,,,,Please you are the only one who is exposed with your nonsense and twisting of words. No, I did not. I would not be bragging about "Antrim", I SEEN the product that comes out of there. Not impressed. Even now "Antrim" has been behind point pleasant the last two years. There is a handful of smart kids that carries the entire school.

Lisa Muller

11:37 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

Just for the record...the person posting under the alias " LM" is not me. I don't always agree with comments left here, but I give credit to those willing to use their own name. Enjoy the rainy day....

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Denise Di Stephan

11:54 am on Friday, July 20, 2012

Folks, if anyone is trying to guess who is using which Patch user name, stop now.

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ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA

7:28 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

A lot of alias is guessing who they think they are. They continue posting comments and blaming the wrong person. You have warned them over and over and they still continue to guess. I know it is wrong but two or three should be able to play that game.

vic

6:22 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Sal come on man. You know you are a whiner who lives in D2. Stop the bull.

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Sal

8:43 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

vic,
Come on man, Wrong again! You stop the bull.....I am a D4 whiner and you are another boardwalk whiner shill.

Nick Carraway

7:46 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Herbie, when I think of your name, I think of that charming Disney movie called "Herbie the Love Bug" except that, rather than be full of love, you seem to be full of animosity. You can hate the BW all that you'd like. Hate Dyer, too. Hate the poorly behaved tourists. That's your right. But, you should also try to recognize that so many of the businesses in town are dependent on tourists, and the bad publicity that has been plaguing our town since all of this started is hurting the businesses, all of the businesses, in PPB. Personally, I don't have a problem with drinking, so long as the person drinking is over the age of 21 and drinks responsibly. I don't care if someone gets drunk, as long as they don't get behind the wheel of a car and don't disrupt people while drunk. I think that we could've curtailed the bad behavior through police enforcement, and we should've taken the money offered to help pay for that. All along, Barrella has said that he wanted the BW to pay "its fair share." Well, they offered $800K for 5 years. I never heard from him that $800K wasn't enough. What I heard was "Well, we want those payments made for more than 5 years. Well, we want the BW to drop its parking plan lawsuit. Well, we want it written in writing in a more clear fashion." Personally, I wouldn't want it for more than 5 years, because if things didn't improve in 5 years, then I would want another solution. We should've first tried the police, all by themselves.

Sal

8:59 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

NC...In a perfect world.... Do you realize the young kids in our town is drinking curtsey of their own parents. That is most like were the bottles that are left on the street is coming from. Unfortunately there is a lot of adults who do not drink responsibly who get behind the wheel of the car. The BW made an offer of 800,000 spread out over 5 years. You leave out that their was conditions against that offer and also the fact they accused the town of "extortion" It went from negotiations amongst the council members and the boardwalk owners to "extortion" Please don't tell me to prove it. It has been in the papers as and PDF file that was supposed to be kept confidential.

Sal

9:19 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

"likely where" the bottles that are left on the streets, is coming from.

J. Henderson

10:40 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Loves the Beach might be obsessed, that does not change the fact that he lies, spins it his way, takes words out of context, most of all he is a bw shill.

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Cathy Kelly

10:47 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

J.Henderson,that is why I have not responded,let's just say that the"Royal Family"is having a very difficult time realizing that they are not so "Royal" anymore and sometimes their loyal servants who are answering for them are being exposed so easily. It is almost sad,if you ask me,but that's just me.....Don't waste your time with them,it's not worth it,trust me.........

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Mr. Happy

11:15 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Also, Loves the Beach is the Patch equivalent of Sybil. 13 personalities. And counting.

Loves the Beach

7:27 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

You have to love these Barrella supporters like J. Henderson. They diss the schools, the cops, the BW, and everything about PPB. Looks like these are just sore losers, misfits really, (like Barrella who is a lousy lawyer so he teaches,) unhappy about how they have failed at life, and jealous of anybody, like our schools, our police, and are tourist industry, that do well. What is it that the Queen of the Barrella shills says: “How Sad.”

Loves the Beach

7:28 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

Good Morning PPB!!! Mr. Happy, you missed more than a few, but that’s OK. Kinda fits in with the rest of your “facts.” The inability to tell us who you think the posters are is frustrating for those who like to attack the messenger, isn’t it? Leaves you trying to deal with a message you have no answer for, doesn’t it? Like the post above from Jane Reynolds.

But the good news is that those who see through Barrella can’t be silenced, and we can’t be stopped, and our numbers just keep growing.

Loves the Beach

7:28 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

Here we will give you another chance to answer Ms. Reynold’s post.

Jane Reynolds
9:02 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

comments from the article in the press on this subject...

Mr. Gasiorowski is wasting everybody’s time and the taxpayer’s money,” the mayor said in response to the latest lawsuit.

Borough Attorney Sean Gertner said, “I think they should exhaust their administrative remedies before causing the borough to expend needless funds to defend another litigation.”

Interesting that the mayor and attorney have made these comments beause at the June 6, 2012 council meeting in an exchange between the mayor and attorney, and I quote:
Mayor: you're representing the borough on the two suits that have been brought...
Gertner: Yes
Mayor: okay. can you tell us right now what the figures are on that?
Gertner: Well your insurance has provided a defense. So that there's not out-of-borough resources providing the defense.
Mayor: So the borough is not paying the legal fees?
Gertner: yes
public record people...your can't have it both ways

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herbie

1:17 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

as i said earlier two parking lawsuits -- bw and republican club/fishing boats filed as of june 6

Mr. Happy

12:50 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

Hi Sybil Loves the Beach- When you write "our numbers just keep growing" - are you counting your various incarnations (messengers as you call "them")? Or real people? Or a combination of both?

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Spooner

8:05 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

Happy- your exceeding your 5 character word limit: using words like 'numbers'...'growing'...'counting'...and ' various'. . .then doubling down with 'incarnations' & 'messengers'. You can do better than that? Didn't you mention that helpful tool called: "Thesaurus". . .Oh I'm sorry...was that more than five characters.

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Loves the Beach

8:47 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

Mr. Happy. Beautiful day in PPB today, no? No one cares about the number of posters, except for Barrellites who can handle the message and want to attack the messenger. I’m talking real people. Like my neighbor who had a Barrella sign in November, but who told me today that he used to think Barrella was trying to help residents, but now he sees Barrella is motivated by his personal vendetta and that vendetta is hurting all of PPB’s businesses and the tourism industry in general. As my neighbor said, “Barrella has gone too far, I voted for him three times, but never, never again.”

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Loves the Beach

9:11 am on Sunday, July 22, 2012

typo should be "can't handle the message"

Laura

1:15 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

There only seems to be about 15 different posters on the Articles about the Beach. It seems to be about the same number on every article, sometimes less. You may, like me, follow politics on cable, but that doesn't mean everyone in your town does. Not everyone cares as much as you think they do. Well, unless they are politically involved. HMM

Mr. Happy

9:02 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

Hi Loves the Beach- Let's take a moment off from our debate and offer an encouraging word to the uniformed police officer involved in the Beachwood shooting. I did. Please do the same. Our debate can continue at a later time. Thank You.

ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA

11:01 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

Loves the Beach, I already responded to you on the prior patch article. I will say it again, I happen to agree with the "Queen" Not only "How Sad" what this town have become? But "How Sad you truly are" that you have to eventually result to name calling. Who the heck are you to tell someone they failed at life? Just because they do not agree with you and support the same people and things in life. Sir, You are not God, You are disgraceful, look at yourself in the mirror.

Nick Carraway

11:34 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

Sal, I don't know what to tell you about parents serving their children alcohol other than I don't think that the parking plan or the early bar closings were designed to address those issues. Call DYFS if you're so concerned about that. You mentioned that the $800K offer had conditions against that offer. Those conditions were suggested by certain Council members, not the BW. The BW's offer was clear "We'll give you $800K for the next 5 years for you to use primarily for police and some garbage collection, and we're willing to put that condition on our liquor license. In return, the Council will allow the bars to remain opened until 2 am." You mention extortion. Are you suggesting that, as of the date of the last vote on this issue, after the matter was already before the ABC and the Council had to vote to recommend something to the Boro Atty, when Barrella voted against accepting the $800K offer, it was because Barrella believed that it was extortion? Keep in mind that what was decided, by a vote of the Barrella bloc, was to suggest a 1 am bar closing. Barrella cast the deciding vote each time. So, do you think Barrella ultimately decided to reject the $800K because Barrella believed that the offer had been obtained through extortion?

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herbie

1:30 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

when did they offer to put any condition on their licenses. i think it was reid who called it extortion and then voted for it

ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA

4:05 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

You know it is really bad when "Beach Residents" will still vote for Councilmen Stephen Reid regardless what he does. 1) Even when Stephen Reid publicly felt it was extortion and still voted to take the money. 2) Publicly stated he did not read the budget or go to any budget meetings. 3)Voted "NO" for the budget, went against his own republican running mate councilmen Bill Mayers who was the town's prior bond council for years. 4)Does not even know or realize by voting "NO" he went against the police and town..The police salaries is the largest part of the budget. 5)He admitted he was a Lobbyist who worked for the BW at one time, who supported his campaign when he was running for Mayor. I would have to say he is a puppet that is pushing for his own agenda.

Loves the Beach

5:30 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

Because residents not seduced by Barrella nonsense know that Reid was protesting Barrellla's refusual to use surplus to keep tax increase reasonable. But Barrella, who knew he was going to damage tourism (not just drinking) knew he was going to have much less parking revenue and court revenue in this 2012 fiscal year and will need every dime of surplus he canget his hands on in the 2013 budget. But he screwed it up and we have a $238 dollar Barrella tax increase this year and even more coming in 2013. Good news=these Barrella tax increases, and this Barrella personal vendetta now detroying PPB, will also destroy Barrella's political career.

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tell the truth

6:08 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

Right on, LtB --- Dont' forget too...the political careers of Tookerella, Korbelly, and Flash Gordon are also coming to an end. I can't wait to watch them implode...one by one.

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ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA

6:35 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

Loves the Beach= delusional=DH

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ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA

7:41 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

Jane Reynolds, You are right....Rumors are carried by Haters, spread by fools and accepted by idiots....This is a good one...So basically everyone on here is haters, fools and idiots.

Spooner

6:26 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

In 2010, Barrella rolled the budget dice...there he was pushing for more surplus...and supported cuts to police budget. It's all there in black and white...This year...even using surplus. . .the 2012 general appropriations increased almost $1,294,000 from 2011(see bottom of sheet 30)

http://www.pointpleasantbeach.org/documents/budget_2012.pdf

http://www.pointpleasantbeach.org/news.php?action=fullnews&id=1127
http://www.pointpleasantbeach.org/news.php?action=fullnews&id=1128

ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA

7:25 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

Denise, "tell the truth"started guessing, he or she is accusing the wrong person... But all is fair in the game of love and war. if some is allowed to guess then I should be able to guess other alias..... I normally would not stoop that low, but it is unfair that only some can. They need a taste of their own medicine.

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Denise Di Stephan

7:55 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

To lovesthebeachvi: I tried twice to reply to your email, but it would not go through.

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