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Point Boro Residents Look to Start FEMA Fight

Upset about FEMA's new flood maps, residents are scrambling to come up with ideas on how to object.

 

Point Pleasant Borough Mayor Bill Schroeder wishes he could provide the public with some actual answers.       

With council chambers packed with residents Tuesday night, Schroeder talked about a meeting he had with a liaison to Gov. Christie’s office recently to discuss, among other things, the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s (FEMA) newly-adopted advisory flood maps.

It must have qualified as a good discussion, he said, at least considering how long it lasted. But when he stood up from the table after the meeting, he realized that all of the questions he had before the meeting remained unanswered.

“Quite honestly, nothing got resolved,” he said of his talk, unintentionally prefacing a meeting that would turn out to be more of a group therapy session for Sandy-affected residents than one of new information. “I’m frustrated by the fact that I can’t get an answer that I can bring back (to the public).”

Point Borough opened its council meeting with an update from town engineer Ernie Peters on FEMA’s hazard mitigation grant program, which could help residents cover some of the cost of elevating their homes. In all, he said, 215 families in town have filed an application for the grant so far, requesting an average of $80,000.

There’s still time to apply, he reminded the audience, but for many, the entire thing just doesn’t make sense.

After opening the floor to comment, a stream of concerned residents stepped to the microphone to voice their objection to FEMA’s Advisory Base Flood Elevation, or ABFE, maps.

In many instances, residents who have long been listed in the A Zone, a zone that is prone to flooding but not severe flooding, now find themselves in V Zones, a distinction that could see their insurance rates rise to more than $30,000 annually.

Some residents who have never even seen a drop of water in their homes, even during Sandy, are responsible for raising their properties, too.  

Among those faced with this new reality is Brian McAlindin. The borough resident said his home in Bay Head Shores has been rezoned from an A-5 to a V-9. The change will undoubtedly require him to raise his home several feet or face paying tens of thousands of dollars more each year to insure against floodwaters.

But it’s not the insurance cost that’s bothering him. It's the flood maps, which were adopted by the state recently. The maps have been contested by shore towns and residents who claim they’re just plain wrong.

“I can’t emphasize the importance of fighting the V Zones,” he said, urging the council to reach out to FEMA and to get them in town to actually see the neighborhoods they’ve rezoned. “The idea that (some of these homes) are subject to wave velocity is absurd.”

FEMA’s advisory maps were developed prior to Sandy using data culled from historic, and national, storms like Hurricane Katrina, changing and more detailed analysis of topography and the shore, and weather’s impact on 1,800 miles of coastal, tidal zones. The maps are intended to demonstrate how high a structure must sit off the ground to avoid flood damage from a once-a-century storm, like Sandy.

Though municipalities like Point Pleasant are hoping to see their towns remapped, FEMA officials have said publicly that the advisory maps are unlikely to change a great deal before they’re introduced as the National Flood Insurance Program’s official flood maps, a move that could come as early as next year.

That notion isn’t sitting well with local residents.

“I’ve lived here all my life and they are just so wrong with what they’ve done to this town,” Council President Bob Sabosik said. “It’s a crime.”

If Point Pleasant is going to fight FEMA’s flood maps, they need to do it right, resident and professional land surveyor Al Faraldi said. Armed with maps and other handouts, Faraldi said there is clear and definitive proof that FEMA’s calculations are wrong. In some instances, their measurements of tides are off, not by inches, but by several feet.

It won’t be enough to raise an objection, he said. What council needs to do is hire experts, whether alone or in partnership with other similarly impacted municipalities, to conduct authoritative studies and analysis of the coast and the various zones.

Point is already in a difficult position with Christie’s adoption of FEMA’s ABFEs, a move he said he felt Christie made too quickly, but if affected towns have proof that the flood maps are inaccurate, they stand a chance to see them altered.

“To go fight FEMA you need hard evidence,” he said.

Related Topics: FEMA, Hurricane Sandy, and Point Pleasant Borough Council

LIGATB

1:29 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

If you want answers to FEMA questions, go to Antrim Elementary School in Pt. Beach tonight at 6PM. FEMA will be having breakout sessions with one session explaining the new FEMA maps. This meeting is open to any resident of NJ, not just Pt. Beach. They are not advertising this because they do not want to be inundated with residents. 6 PM G. Harold Antrim School Niblick St. Pt. Beach.

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larrycoppa

2:11 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

keep us posted we would like to attend the next meeting

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Sue

2:34 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

See the Patch "events" column for an important meeting SATURDAY afternoon...
http://patch.com/E-ttDh

"Stop FEMA Now" grassroots uprising!
Meet 'n' greet this Saturday 2/9/12, 3-4 pm
Belly Busters, 708 Fischer Blvd, Toms River NJ
Discuss and strategize how to rectify FEMA overkill -- seriously flawed maps, ridiculously high elevation mandates and usurious annual insurance premiums will BANKRUPT homeowners and make the Shore a ghost town (except for the wealthy).

How about a class-action lawsuit? Petitions to White House, federal and/or state legislators? Letter-writing and email campaigns to news media? Rallies on steps of Statehouse and Congress?

Just just complain. Do something about it. Make your voice heard! "United we stand, divided we drown in debt!"

bernie

2:32 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

Christies agreeing to adopt didnt do anything negative at all. It simply allows the release of grants monies into the state.

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Tom Bolcar

3:27 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Where do you live? In the mountains perhaps? Governor Christie has single handly STOPPED reconstruction in my Point Pleasant neighborhood. He will destroy the town as we know it if he doesn't change his position and the maps go through as is. Further, how can a neighborhood WEST of the BEAVER DAM ROAD Bridge possibly be struck by a wave? Answer that if you can.

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bernie

3:43 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

im on a lagoon, 4 blocks from the bay in the Baywood section of Bricktown. Unsure how he STOPPED reconstruction in your neighborhood, but my home had 40 inches of water throughout the ground floor and 7 inches on the first floor. Interior has been gutted, electrical has been redone, and HVAC is partially complete.Im currently living in a hotel as i have been since 11/2. Im going to continue putting it back together and once the mapping is finalized and final zoning is adopted i will then lift my completed home accordingly. This is exactly the avenue the majority of full time residents in me neighborhood are taking. Those with 2nd home and or investment properties are more inclined to wait it out. Just because Christie agreed to adopt the maps to get funding released to the state. It does NOT mean that they are etched in stone. How can a home 4 blocks from the bay behind a cove be struck by a wave. Yes i also have been potentially rezoned from an AE to a V9.

Chief Wahoo

4:17 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

In all, he said, 215 families in town have filed an application for the grant so far, requesting an average of $80,000.

HAHA !! You sheep are still falling for these tricks........you have a better chance of seeing God surfing than to get $80,000 each !!......WOW !

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re-tired

4:46 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

fema should change their initials to femedima because they are trying to stick these crazy maps up our asses. There are No 3 ft waves in the bay no damage except from flooding which is found In "a" zones!!!

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George Kasimos

6:56 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

Welcome aboard! www.facebook.com/StopFemaNow

We are a group of homeowners having the same issues with FEMA.

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re-tired

7:29 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

I went to the meeting in point beach and left with these thoughts: FEMA is a big, big, big agency (we don`t even know what the f----- were doing this is a big disaster). ABFE we have studied flood elevations for 3 years it really should have been 5 yrs but what the f---- your stuck with our findings and your donut governor signed off on the map ,so your all SCREWED. 500 people at the meeting ,it looked like the motor vehicle office on the last day of the month.200 waiting for their abfe and only 4 people with a computer. Typical government job people I don`t know why ,how or if I can help ,but apply for help anyway. ThAnk you FEMA ! AND congress already screwed you with Biggert/waters bill anyway.

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Margaret

7:36 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

re-tired - do you know does the 25% increase apply to both primary residences and secondary ones? did they say when the new insurance rates would begin?

bernie

7:36 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

Re-tired...we are not screwed at all. Alls the governor did was agree to adopt to get funds released. They have NOT been adopted yet. And until they are we need to plead out cases together as a community if we are going to have any chance of having these maps relooked at.

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Floodgate

7:47 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

Please everyone ,pass all of this on to your neighbors and friends ,the word needs to get out . I ran into a guy today that lives in silver bay on the water ,had no idea how much flood rates were going up and had no clue what a V zone is . We all need to be educated on this

bernie

7:41 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

The increases are said not to start until the new maps are adopted 12-18 months from now and to be 25% per year on primary or secondary residences alike. If the homes are brought upto new adopted height requirements the policy premiums are not going to be that bad.

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Floodgate

9:32 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

So rates won't reach full premium till 2019 2020ish?......Bernie?

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Carl Wilton

6:50 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Yes, but isn't the problem that displaced homeowners need to decide NOW whether or not their homes have to raised, and can't wait till the finalized flood maps are released and all legal challenges have been answered?

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Nautigal

7:01 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

You're doing a good job talking to people, bernie but policy premiums will be increasing 300-400% even with full compliance of height requirements and people should be made aware of that.

Margaret

7:43 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

hey bernie - you don't happen to live in Bay Head Shores? think you may be my neighbor lol

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bernie

7:44 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

No maam. Good friends of mine do. Im in baywood section of Brick. 5 lagoons in from bay and still in a hotel.

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KAD

8:43 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

Can someone help explain based on the new ABFE's how you determine how high up you need to raise your home to avoid the drastic insurance increases? Do you take the 0.2% number from sea level and then increase by 3 ft?

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bernie

9:07 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

It will say V 9 thats 9 feet plus 1ft recommended freeboard

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Denise Di Stephan

10:19 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

LIGATB: Actually, Point Beach officials asked me to publicize the meeting that was held tonight at Antrim and I did http://patch.com/A-18Nv So it's really not fair to say "they didn't advertise it." And just fyi, there were more than 500 people there, it was an overflow crowd, so looks like lots of people knew about it.

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Carl Wilton

6:53 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

They did two different robo-call reminders, too.

Jo Jo

6:24 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013

The Big Bad Government....There is no difference than the Local Government. A lot that the local government does and gets away with is a crime too.

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Tom Bolcar

3:46 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Superstorm Sandy is over.

We are now faced with Superstorm FEMA/Christie. This new storm has the potential to devastate the shore far worse.

There is no science, there is no evidence, there is no history to back up these maps when it comes to the mainland.

Superstorm FEMA/Christie is a bureaucratic storm. Our governor is being stubborn and illogical. The good thing is that he has no support, Our senators, congressmen, aand local officials are on our side. Keep up the fight.

When you e-mail the governor refer to the problem as Superstorm FEMA/Christie. Leave no doubt in his mind that HE IS RESPONSIBLE AND WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE when we win in the long run.

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Mary Ann

4:11 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Maybe we need to organize a march and protest the FEMA ABFE maps. I am not going accept the possibility of losing my home over an unnecessary flood zone. We need to be heard. We need answers and we are not getting any.

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