Point Boro Taxes to Increase $66 on Average Home
Budget adopted Tuesday night with one no vote
A municipal budget that will increase local taxes by about $66 per average home was adopted at a brief Point Borough Council meeting on Tuesday night at Borough Hall.
Point Borough Councilmember Christopher Leitner was the only no vote on the budget which is expected to increase municipal taxes by $66 on a home assessed at $300,000 if it is approved by Ocean County and the state. Councilmember John Wisniewski was absent.
The municipal tax bill on a home assessed at $300,000, which is the average Borough assessment for a home, is increasing from $1,146 to $1,212. The total municipal budget is decreasing from $18.4 million to $18.3 million.
The amount to be raised by local taxes is increasing from $12.5 million to nearly $13.2 million. The Borough's tax collection rate has increased from 95.50 percent to 96.74 percent.
The budget will increase the municipal tax rate by 2.22 cents, compared to 2.16 cents as called for in the budget when it was introduced on July 2.
Leitner said after the meeting that he voted no because he is concerned about the majority on council using about $1.2 million of a total of about $1.3 million in surplus. He said the problem with using nearly all of the surplus is that if the Borough generates less surplus than expected next year, it will likely mean a larger tax increase.
"If you come up short the following year, then you have to raise taxes more than you would have to otherwise," Leitner said.
He said he did not voice his reason for the no vote during the meeting because he knew it wouldn't change any votes.
"I've asked at prior meetings how much surplus is going to be generated next year and I never got an answer," Leitner said. "At the meeting where the budget was introduced, we saw some on council, like Toni DePaola and Bob Sabosik, start asking questions about the budget.
"But the time to ask questions was at budget workshop meetings and that's when some of those answers had been given," Leitner continued. "So what that tells me is they have little to no undertanding of the budget. And I wasn't comfortable voting for it."
DePaola and Sabosik had said at the July 2 meeting that they did understand the budget and felt like they had gotten sufficient answers to the last few questions they had.
Last year no surplus was applied to the budget, according to budget data distributed by Borough Adminisgtrator David Maffei.
There was no public comment on the budget before or after it was adopted and the meeting lasted barely 20 minutes.
There were only minor changes to the budget since it was introduced on July 2, Maffei noted.
He said the state had advised the municipality to approve several amendments, which council voted for unanimously on Tuesday night, and the state also gave the Borough the green light to adopt budget.
The most significant change directed by the state is to take $82,000 for health benefits outside the state-mandated 2 percent spending cap.
Also, the state said the budget needs to have a separate line item for $8,000 for the few employees who are getting a payment in lieu of health benefits. Employees who do not get health benefits get $2,000 to $2,500 in lieu of the benefits, Maffei said. That's roughly a quarter of what the Borough would spend on their health benefits, he said.
Water and Sewer Budget
The amendments also include reducing the water and sewer budget by nearly $70,000 because the Borough cannot use a portion of its surplus to pay for water and sewer.
The amount of surplus anticipated as revenue is decreasing from $345,000 last year to $167,520 this year, according to budget data provided by Maffei.
Maffei said the Borough uses part of its surplus, in addition to water and sewer revenue, to pay water and sewer charges.
The total water and sewer budget is increasing from $6,475,421 by $353,141 to $6,611,141.
Regarding water and sewer charges, the Borough also added a surcharge this year of $17 per water unit and $17 per sewer unit per quarter, which ends at the end of this year, Maffei said. That was necessitated by a shortage in the budget.
Spooner
2:25 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Let me see if I got this correct Mr Leitner: let's say you use only half of the surplus, which would be $600K. . .Two thoughts then come to mind...where does the other $600K come from, if not by raising taxes . . .or are you going to cut spending? So what's the difference, if you don't cut spending. . .raise taxes this year, or according to you...possibly raise them next year. I don't seem to follow your logic.
PS: I don't expect you to respond.
Victor
2:25 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
It's always comforting when you ask a question about the surplus at a town hall meeting and no one answers it. How many raises does this budget include? also great is 82,000. in health benefits that could be taken outside of this useless cap. Why are we paying the employees that opt out of health insurance? That turned it down because they are getting it somewhere else, so why doesn't the town look at like a benefit for the taxpayers and not pay them a bonus for not taking it? Your supposed to be on the side of the residents. Sad, PP is taxing people right out of their homes.
Laura
2:25 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
$66 is only the municipal increase. It doesn't include the school or county portion of your taxes. Amazing how the ruling party isnt interested in that 0% increase anymore. They had no problem adding over $740,000 to our long term debt with the purchase of another vehicle for the Fire Department.
Opinionated
2:39 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Hey folks, an average of $66 per house increase won't seem so bad when we start hearing how much PPB's will rise due to Vinnie's Vendetta!
ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA
11:41 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
It is not a total of 66 per house, you are leaving out the school and county therefore the beach and boro in increase is not that much of a difference. Plus the fact the house assessment value is not even close.
somebody
9:07 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Don't consolidate the schools. Consolidate the police. You can save a lot of money. Have one Police Chief, Captain and Lt., even get rid of some police. Spread them around were they are most needed. Especially being so many claim it is all not that bad in these small beach town. Everything is exaggerated by so many. We don't need all the police. The towns will survive with out all the excessive police. We can also save money in garbage pick up between all the towns. It was proven from a resident and the town did not want any changes. They will have to get rid of their families and friends and they don't want to.
Patti Ascolese
3:57 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
So true Opinionated....Just got my bill yesterday and seems most have gone up almost $400. We need to be re-evaluated because we are paying based on the values appraised a few years back when they re-evaluated. Time to take action and go fight for reductions. Appeal those taxes. Why not, the councilwoman who voted to raise our taxes appeals her own! All the residents can clearly see it is time to get rid of the Barrella colt. That is a large increase, especially for the poor senior citizens.
ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA
11:44 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Patti, You can take full advantage of a tax appeal if you wanted to as so many others have in this town. The boardwalk did also, so you have no one else then yourself to blame.
bud
4:08 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Barrella and his agents are destroying Point Pleasant Beach
Denise Di Stephan
4:12 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Folks, this is a story about Point Pleasant Borough, not Point Pleasant Beach. I'm not going to delete (yet) but can we please stay on topic? Thank you.
Spooner
5:12 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
I think they have a point to make in comparing Point Borough's municipal tax increase to the Beach. . .$66 average in the Borough versus $238 in the Beach. Not to mention that their revaluations were performed 2 years earlier(2007)...than the Boroughs', when housing prices were at their highest. . .adding more questions to the average home price assessment comparison there?
Denise Di Stephan
5:26 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
You are omitting a crucial piece of information that makes a big difference: the Beach figure of an increase of $238 is for a home assessed at $700,000, which is the average home assessment there http://patch.com/A-rmpH. The Boro figure of $66 is for a home assessed at $300,000, which is the average home assessment in the Borough. Also, Beach is leaving a lot more ($451,041) in surplus. So, actually, we need to be careful about making comparisons between apples and oranges or we cause a lot of confusion. And staying on topic is one of the things Patch, across the country, requests for comments. I get concerned when I see Beach political opinions spilling into Borough stories. Thanks.
Cathy Kelly
11:52 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Well said Denise and although I am being redundant,if people had to use their own names,there would be so much less misinformation being circulated because they woud actually be held accountable for their statements.. I know that is not the Patch policy but I and many others can still hope.....
Spooner
12:05 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
That's just the point: what your saying by average assessed value is that a comparable home's market value in the Beach is 2.33 times the selling price of that same home in the Boro. A four bedroom colonial selling for around $425,000 in the Boro. . .will sell for $990,000 in the Beach?
...the real point here is that Beach ratables are over valued. . .Beach assessments went up 370%, from $726M to $2,684M. . .while the Borough's went up about 230%, from $1,495M to $3,442M, . . .
http://www.tax.co.ocean.nj.us/ContentPage.aspx?ID=0d9a7e8e-5b70-4dda-be47-12a7b30c1b7e
...and even using up another $300K from surplus, would bring the numbers down to around $156, still 236% over the Boroughs. . .with 1/4 of the population, 2/3 of the police force, and about 1/2 of Borough's employees. Should the Beach command higher increases in taxes. . .that's a values judgement for people who want to live there?
love the shore
12:22 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Excellent points Spooner!
Thank you for providing us with some factual data and the links for further exploration of tax rate comparisons. Most of the "emotional Patch commenters" have little or no real understanding of the effect of ratables on a tax base, or the difference between residential assessments vs. commercial assessments. YOU obviously get it and have a much deeper understanding of how these variable tax rates fluctuate on a year to year basis....only to go --- up, up, up in most recent years. WHOA --- just wait until the BW gets another reduced assessment following this summer's profit margin losses. The Beach taxpayers are going to be screaming, wailing, and gnashing their teeth! Get ready --- because the worst is yet to come for the tax conscious folks! Even those who think their taxes are currently reasonable ---- won't know what hit 'em come the introduction of the 2013 Beach budget.
love the shore
10:41 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Ms. Di Stephan:
You should understand that there are folks who do have financial interests in BOTH the Beach and the Boro simultaneously and therefore they DO have the right to comment and draw comparisons in their comments. Some --- may own their home in Point Boro and own a business in Point Beach --- therefore they're paying taxes in BOTH communities. Others --- may own their home in Point Beach and own a business in Point Boro --- again having a vested financial interest in both towns' tax rates. Therefore, these posters' comments ARE indeed most appropriate and relevant, so long as they remain civil and polite. I would imagine that "Patch Policy", across the country, (while they may wish to encourage posters to stay on topic), would NOT seek to violate one's basic First Amendment Constitutional rights via censorship by Patch staffers. Aren't I correct, Denise?
Denise Di Stephan
10:50 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
No. As I have explained before, Patch Media is a private company, not the government. Patch has no legal obligation to even have a Comments section, much less to allow anyone to write anything. So if we delete comments, we are not obstructing the Constitution or violating anyone's rights. We are exercising guidelines we are allowed to have. I know some people disagree with Patch policies. That does not make them unconstitutional. Having said that, I didn't delete any comments here. I never said there are no readers who care about tax rates in both towns. I just said I would hope commenters can stay on topic about this story, which is about the Borough budget. I also said that if readers comment, it would be helpful to not cause confusion by comparing apples and oranges.
ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA
11:37 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Spooner lives in the Boro, yet he is always commenting on Beach blogs and politics Spooner is a true spinner...Most bloggers are aware of this habit. He will spin anything around. He will only explain and post pieces and parts of anything political going on. It is his choice and I am sure he has special interest in both town in one way or another. The problem is like you stated him/her and a few other bloggers definitely does not compare apples to oranges.
love the shore
11:46 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA:
One quick simple question....
How do you know that "Spooner lives in the Boro"? What makes you an authority to arrive at that conclusion? Has Spooner told you that he "lives in the Boro" or are you making assumptions and trying to guess at somebody's identity? BTW....what makes somebody a "true spinner"? Can you please clarify that statement?
Laura
11:48 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Spooner is just an antagonist. If he cannot win his point, he will bring up another question and start arguing all over again. Spooner started posting on the app.com a few years ago on a blog that I started about politics in the Boro. He first disliked Susan Rogers, then did a 180 and decided she was the greatest thing since sliced white bread after her roundtable meetings. Those meetings included info produced by the Boro's former CFO. That, to me, is telling in itself.
love the shore
12:01 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Ms. Di Stephan:
Has "ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA" crossed your Patch Policy threshhold line yet? Earlier you stated: "I get concerned when I see Beach political opinions spilling into Borough stories." Doesn't "ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA" wreak of a strong stench of a "Beach political opinion", and isn't (s)he taking your story way off topic?
I can't even begin to understand her 11:41pm post where (s)he states:
"It is not a total of 66 per house, you are leaving out the school and county therefore the beach and boro in increase is not that much of a difference. Plus the fact the house assessment value is not even close."
In my humble opinion, her post is "making comparisons between apples and oranges and causing a lot of confusion".....much more confusion than the average reader can ever begin to understand. I believe you have a duty to clarify or correct this misinformation. Thanks.
ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA
12:17 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
LTS, I am not trying to guess at any MPD bloggs including yours. It has been said over by many blogs.. I am almost sure he/she has never denied it. But I am almost sure he/she said he did and mentioned it is not uncommon for a cross over between the two towns. If I remember it correctly that included the police, town,,,,apparently many have special interest.
love the shore
12:37 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
WHAT???
HELP???
Can ANYONE translate the meaning of this disconnected rambling jibberish?
love the shore
1:00 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA:
What is an MPD bloggs? What has "been said over by many blogs"? Kindly explain. I am desperately trying to decipher your cryptic version of morse code. WHO has "special interest" that "included the police, town",,,, You sound like a person who is suffering from sleep deprivation, excessive sangria consumption, or some other mental impairment. PLEASE HELP TRANSLATE your thoughts???
somebody
10:15 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
WHAT???? You don't understand what an MPD is? Say Hi, to yourself mattmurphy when you wake up in the morning. You sound just like her. Most know your material....You need your beauty sleep. .
ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA
10:34 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Obviously you and Spooner is the only one who doesn't understand my thoughts??
Like Denise said,You both leave out crucial pieces of information deliberately to make others look bad. It is two different towns with different issues. If you can't understand that then you are the one who is drinking excessive amount of alcohol that has a mental block or just a little slow. Maybe majority of the residents will pay extra for the Police...Obviously some do because you have so many on here saying we need the police including the BW supporters. By the way the only rambling jibberish is coming from you both... Do you need translation for that too.
Opinionated
9:42 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Denise, I realize that I may have opened an old wound about PPB. I was merely explaining that any unhappiness with the raise in Boro's property I have is tempered by the fact that other towns have bigger problems and are more poorly run than ours. They may not be perfect but we could be worse off. I suppose I could have said I am grateful I don't live in Lakewood either. But that's another can of worms, isn't it?
Victor
10:04 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
How about getting back on point,( no pun intended lol ) Are we ever going to get a council that will actually have the guts to change things? How about thinking consolidation or cutting expenses? How about addressing the amount of administrators in our schools? Do we need all of these vice principals? Do we need and asst superintendent which I'm sure also has assistants? Did we need that garage in the back of the municipal building? We did without it all of these years and now all of a sudden we have to store that equipment inside. Give us a break!!!!!
somebody
10:18 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Agreed...But they do not want to....because they would have to get rid of their families and friends who have been sucking the life out of the tax payers. Why would they do that?
Opinionated
10:59 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Victor, I used to think consolidation of services was a great idea UNTIL, I started reading our local news outlets and seeing the internal problems other towns have. THEN I realized that with consolidation those problems became our problems. I will concede it is still a good idea for those very small towns such as a Lake Como or Loch Arbour where there is not any need for a separate anything because of their size. A good example is Freehold Boro. They joined a regional school district where every other town except them had huge building booms in the 80s and beyond. Many new schools had to be built due to the development and all towns had to pay into that, including little Freehold Boro which had no such benefit. My favorite questin is this, "who wants to share services with Lakewood"? Sorry to digress but consolidation is relevant to this issue.
somebody
10:09 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
You merely left out what your total taxes add up to. Like Denise stated, you are not comparing apples to apples in your explanation. Every town has problems.
Victor
2:00 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Opinionated, Thank you, you made a valid point. But, there has to be a way to eventually get these towns to run like a business and not a free for all with our money. Sorry, but it just gets so frustrating when you keep cutting back and the town keeps raising your taxes.
somebody
8:25 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
So, don't consolidate the schools. Beach schools already have the smaller towns such as Bay Head, Lavallette, Mantoloking going to the schools. Consolidate the police,,,You can have one Chief, Captain, Lt. for all these little towns, cut some of the police and spread them around were they are needed the most. Especially when you have so many saying it really is not that bad here in all these little towns. That everyone is making a big deal and there really isn't much going on here. Consolidate the garbage pick up too, someone already did that and proved the town could save so much money. They did not want to do that. It just shows you they do not want to say money, they would have to get rid of all their friends and family members.
Opinionated
11:05 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Somebody, ANY association with PPB right now is toxic at best. Like Victor has stated, many towns have problem children pretending to be leaders but at least we can vote them out at the next election. HOWEVER, if we consolidate with anyone else, we are stuck with their pols and have absolutely no say in that. Who would be running such a consolidated PD? Look at last summer's fiasco at the Beach. Again, we do not need other town's problems. I'd sooner pay higher taxes than have the PPB circus in my town. We have enough of our own issues, thank you.
Laura
4:58 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
As long as no one attends meetings in Point Boro except the regulars, there will be no change. No one questioned why (except me), after buying a $1,000,000 truck just 3 or 4 years ago, we needed to buy another vehicle for over $700,000, when we are still paying for our former CFO's mistakes. (who happens to be a member of the Republican Club) Those bills that weren't paid were her responsibility. She was paying herself until December.
When you keep electing the same people who keep spending the money, it's called insanity. The Beach may seem crazy but at least they do switch the crazies on the Council from one year to the next (Republican to Democrat to Independent). That just doesn't seem to help them.
A Resident
1:29 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
Laura, I had those same thoughts in the past, so I did some research. Fire vehicles, just like any other, have a lifetime. At some point, the maint/repairs cost more than what makes sense. I'm willing to bet the one being replaced is at least 15 years old. Are you driving a 15 year old car? Are you counting on that car to suddenly function perfectly when people's lives may be on the line? I thank the FD and think they run pretty well. I'm not afraid to ask them questions.
somebody
12:17 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Opinionated, It comes down to the same excuse. We can't do this, who is going to run it. It becomes political. It is to keep cops jobs in place. The towns residents complain in one breath and don't really want to save in another. Just make it one police dept. end of story. It could work, but know one wants to because they would have to fire their families and friends.
somebody
12:22 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
There is some towns in other states that don't have town police. They have state and county police that is it. Guess what, the towns survive. You also cut out special treatment. No covering for friends or families. No turning a blind eye to some and others locking them up and throwing away the key.
mattmurphy
7:18 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
somebody, you really are out there! When I read your posts, they remind me of the "TWILIGHT ZONE".
mattmurphy
7:20 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Talk about beauty sleep, you are definitely suffering from sleep deprivation, along with MPD.
mattmurphy
7:22 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Denise, time to warn somebody. Once again she is trying to guess identities.
somebody
9:05 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
mattmurphy/Denise.....Where am I guessing who anyone is? You should talk and the only one who is in a Twilight Zone is yourself. Lay off the Sangria,Wine and Hard liquor. Go get some sleep and you are just mad because you already stated that you take care of your own. Like we don't know that.
mattmurphy
1:15 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
somebody - Ouch, I think I've hit a nerve! At least your daytime posts are coherent!
somebody
2:09 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
mattmurphy, NO,, nerve here...You are the one who keeps on responding to my posts..I am coherent day and night. It is just not what you want to hear. Please, realize the time has come you need to stop protecting your own. It is all a bunch of B.S and everyone knows it.
Laura
9:19 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Bay Head and Mantoloking are never going to consolidate police with any of the surrounding towns. They have the money to keep their towns exactly as they want.
As for having the State Police come in - Forget about it. They are used in rural towns. They don't patrol the town as our regular police do. Would anyone on here want to wait for an officer that might be on the parkway, god knows where, in an emergency. I dioubt it.
Last year by announcing they were looking at other options, the town saved $500,000 per year. I think that's pretty good. Which, to me, means that we were overcharged for the last 5 years because those in charge didn't do that.
somebody
2:13 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
It is not only rural towns that the state and county police is used. If you share and State and County Police they soon will realize where they are needed the most. It has never even been looked in to or tried because of the fact to many here are friends with each other. That is the real reason, those will promote who is going to benefit themselves.
mattmurphy
4:19 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
somebody, are you kidding me? You are truly one nasty bitter individual! Most of your posts are critical of everything and everyone. You seem to think that some sort of conspiracy is occurring. You pretend to have all of the answers, a real problem solver! I have a suggestion for you - perhaps you should run for mayor or council. You are extremely vocal. Stop the constant criticism, nasty remarks, and back up all of your incoherent ramblings! Maybe the mayor will make a sign that reads "ILOVESOMEBODY" and vote for you!
somebody
9:52 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
mattmurphy, more like are you kidding me? You are the one who can't handle the truth. I am speaking the truth. I am not nasty or bitter. The truth of the matter everyone is sick of paying out of control taxes that a bunch of out of control local politicians who are helping their own. Who are a bunch of selfish individuals. My remarks are not incoherent ramblings and most understand them. It is you who don't want to understand and it shows the stupidity and ignorance that comes out of your comments. Maybe you should stop posting your comments or at least not responding to mine. Maybe you should realize that so many are sick of taking care of others. mattmurphy, You have been nothing but vocal about "how you take care of your own" Maybe you should take care of them then because no one else wants to. Some of these greedy public workers are just as bad welfare recipients living off of others. You matt, have no problem spending everyone's money.
ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA
11:55 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
mattmurphy, Wah,Wah Wah...stop the crying...I would rather have a sign made up that reads "ILOVESOMEBODY" Than a sign made up for you that reads "ILOVENOBODYOTHERTHANMYSELFANDMYOWN" You are a scared little baby who wants everyone to take care of you and your own. Somebody is the one who has definetly hit a nerve with you. The only conspiracy going on is the fact many are sick of paying for everyone else. If you don't think that is true than you are out of reality. This has nothing to do with having all the answers, problem solving or criticism. You need to get your head that is buried deep in the sand. You are living in a dream world if you think it is going to stay the way it is in your fairyland world. NJ as a whole is tired of what has been allowed to go on and as you can see our Governor started the change that is going to continue. By your comments, you give it away that you are one who is taking advantage of the tax paying residents. Don't be jealous that ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA.
Victor
5:15 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
The real issue here is we are all concerned about our out of control taxes. I think consolidated police depts is not a bad idea. Laura's right, the State Police patrolling point would not work. I just don't understand how all of us can come up with ideas and our council people can't....or won't. And I'm sure we are not all naive enough to know why.
mattmurphy
7:24 am on Saturday, August 4, 2012
somebody, so I guess you will not be running for political office! What about ILOVEMAYORBARRELLA, do you know what her political aspirations are?
somebody
11:48 am on Saturday, August 4, 2012
mattmurphy, Wrong again, I wouldn't run for any political office anywhere. Most are dishonest and they certainly not thinking about the residents of the state, town or county that they are scamming.. Some states are worse than others. NJ being the most dishonest of them all. How would I know? Don't know who ILOVEMAYORBAREELA IS. Denise, mattmurphy guessing again. Does that sound familar, Face it, you are a spinner, user and loser with all the comments you make. I was under the impression that you were already told that you are a she and they are a He. You know what they say about those who assume. One thing we know for sure is that you are running scared just by some of the comments you make. What don't you get, the residents of this town and state are sick of individuals like you. "Who expects others to take care of you and your own" With all your scamming that your are needed. Stop the promoting your own campaign.
mattmurphy
7:24 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012
somebody, I was out of town for a few days. Just got back and saw that you are still rambling on. Can someone please decipher this message for me? You seem to dislike the entire state of NJ. If you are that unhappy, why not just move to one of the other states that isn't too dishonest or doesn't scam their residents.
Laura
1:56 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012
A Resident,
If I hadn't paid bills from 2 years ago and was still having a problem with my bills (ie. water/sewer), I would still be driving (with no wealthy sugar daddy in sight - the town) a 15 year-old car.
With just a slight modification I have heard that another of our trucks could be used to transport equipment. That is what that vehicle will be used for.
There is a difference between wanting and needing.
A Resident
11:08 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
I'd have to leave that decision up to the FD. They would know best. Have you asked any of them why?
Laura
7:47 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012
A Resident
Not all of them agree. For years it was a competition between the two firehouses, Each one trying to one up the other. I have talked to a few.
You have to remember men can be distracted by shiny objects. Lol
somebody
10:01 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012
mattmurphy, You are an ignorant fool...You keep on commenting to me claiming all my comments are rambling and hard to decipher my message. You seem to understand them and the message is shinning through. You have no problem answering them. Then you complain to Denise, when you handle the truth and want them deleted. You point fingers at others and you are doing the same thing. Ouch....I must be getting to you...Don't tell me that I should move... I happen to like NJ... it is all the dishonesty that needs to stop...Hopefully our governor will continue to stop the ridiculousness of what is allowed here and get it through to those like yourself who think they can abuse, use and help their own for all the problems here. BTW....It is the same individuals who leave the state after using and abusing claiming they can no longer pay for others, more like they don't want to. They want to take their money to other states so they can live like Queens and Kings.
mattmurphy
8:00 pm on Tuesday, August 7, 2012
Denise, it's time to warn somebody about all of her nasty comments and name calling. She cannot seem to post without insulting remarks. Enough already!
somebody
10:05 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012
mattmurphy, Foucus..... This is about a budget increase that the public workers cause that the politicians allow. I know you want everything to stay the same....Hopefully it will change little by little because the fight and will of the people.
somebody
8:22 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012
mattmurphy, It is time that you stop being a "TWIT" Stop assuming I am a "SHE" That is were you are wrong again. You are hysterical....You keep on telling Denise what she should do... you are constantly leaving her orders and complaining of others guessing and you are the one who is constantly guessing and looking like a fool. Who are you to say Enough already? Who are you to tell someone else what to do? When you own your own 0n-line news paper is when you can tell others enough and what to do... You get a taste of your own medicine and you don't like it. Only mattmurphy can leave nasty comments and name call. Stop being a hypocrite. If you cant' take or handle the truth then stop responding or reading my comments. Most of those who leave comments is an opinion of that individual. It is their right and freedom to speak. If the On-line news paper did not like something they would say and delete what they think is crossing the line or misinformed information. Tax paying residents in all the towns are tried of paying for everyone else, they are tired of all of you abusing the system and taking care of their "OWN" that you have been pushing. How is Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny? I think you are the one who needs to lay off the booze with your incoherent whining. Now, go get some beauty sleep. Just stop whining, telling others what they should do, trying to report others for something you are doing yourself. Enough Already! Stop responding. It is not flattering.
mattmurphy
6:11 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012
somebody, this will be the last time that I respond to you. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. You are both pretty thick! Not only are you ignorant, you are also illiterate. Your incoherent ramblings prove it! BTW, newspaper is one word, and the word is tired, not tried. As for beauty sleep, have you looked in the mirror lately? You keep mentioning booze, I think it's time for you to refill your Sangria pitcher. We all know who you are. There can't be that many stupid people posting here on Patch. If there is, then Denise should shut it down once again!
somebody
8:34 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012
mattmurphy, Stop already with you're holy than thou attitude. I feel like I am talking to a whinny baby that always had their mommy or husband take care of them all their life. Wah, Wah, Wah... A spoil brat that always had to get their way. You are the one who is ignorant. Stick your corrections and your literacy up your Assssssss! You don't know what your are talking about. Know one knows who I am, including you. You are guessing and doing a lot of assuming as usual. I am a "He" and you are a "She" so clearly your are wrong. You know what they say about individuals who assume. No, you are the one who brings up the drinking and I don't drink, so you are the one who is nuts. There you go again, telling Denise, what she should do, you have no say, you are not getting paid. If you don't like it don't read the on-line "NEWS PAPER" You are the one who is stupid and I am sure you will respond to me in one of your other "alias" mattmurphy!! There is no help for individuals that are as stupid as you. "Stupid is as Stupid does" Denise should do what she wants to. You are not her boss!
LB
3:20 pm on Sunday, August 19, 2012
I have been reading comments on a lot of different issues. Many that are on here arguing back and fourth do not even live in point pleasant beach. They are from other communities and they have to much to say if you ask me. Why do they think they should have control over the residents who live here? The council members need to start listening to the residents who actually own property and live here. It should not matter part-time or full-time. It just tells me there is to many who have some sort of interest to be so concerned. They or their families either are employed or making a lot of money from the businesses. It is getting really bad, it needs to stop, they should have no say..... Let them leave the town that they are from and move to the town of point pleasant beach and then they can have more of a say.