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Police Lt. Earning $70K in O.T. Last Year an 'Outrage,' Says Point Beach Councilman

Lt. Robert Dikun earned $70,214 in overtime, as part of total pay of $195,386 last year, which is expected to be hot topic at tonight's council meeting

 

Point Beach Police Lt. Robert Dikun earning $70,000 in overtime last year as part of his total annual pay of $195,386 is "an outrage," says Councilman Stephen Reid.

"It’s hard to believe that any one individual police officer would be entitled to $70,000 in overtime in the course of one year, especially when that amount far exceeds any other overtime received by any other police officer in our force, including Chief (Kevin) O’Hara," said Reid in an email on Monday afternoon.

"I along with the rest of the residents are outraged," he continued.

Dikun earned an annual base salary of $125,272, plus $61,428 in overtime and $8,786 in "compensatory pay," which is time and a half overtime pay in lieu of compensatory time, as allowed by police contracts, said Kathy Beno, Point Beach deputy finance officer, on Monday.

Police overtime will be monitored monthly and tracked more closely in light of Dikun earning $70,000 in overtime last year, said Councilman Bret Gordon, who became the council liaison to the police department after he was sworn into a council seat for the first time on Jan. 1.

The primary reasons for Dikun's overtime were Hurricane Irene, which cost the town about $25,000 in police overtime for the whole department, and the busy summer, Gordon said.

Overtime will be more closely tracked, within the context of the department trying to maintain adequate staffing levels with only 21 full-time officers, Gordon said.

When asked if there would have been any way to avoid the high overtime bill paid to Dikun, Gordon said, "Sure, if we didn't get the job completed. Every hour expended was done on behalf of the town. A lot of the overtime was due to his experience. We can't just give a lot of the jobs he does to a rookie cop."

The recent retirement of Sgt. Richard Otto means the department has only 21 officers, compared to the 22 it had operated with during the past year.

Reid, in his statement, took to task O'Hara, Dikun and Council members Kristine Tooker, who was police liaison last year, and Michael Corbally, who was on the council finance committee. Tooker could not be reached for comment on Monday night.

Reid, in his email, continued, "I am outraged on many levels. First, I had to learn about the overtime from a resident. As a  councilman I should have been told about this sooner. 

"Second, I find it hard to accept that a police officer from Point Beach made over $196,000," he said, which is slightly more than the figure of $195,386 supplied by Beno.

"That’s inexcusable especially when over $70,000 was made in overtime," Reid wrote. "There can be no justification for that amount of money.

"As a governing body, it is important that we give the police department the funds that it needs to keep our town safe," he continued. "But, it is also important that we ensure that tax dollars are spent wisely and are not used as a means to benefit one individual.

"Last year, our municipal employees sacrificed 17 days of salary as furlough days," Reid noted. "I simply cannot comprehend how our municipal employees could be forced to make that sacrifice while one individual police officer took home an additional $70,000 in overtime.

"We need to investigate this situation thoroughly so that we can provide answers to our taxpayers. 

"Lt. Dikun’s time sheets need to be reviewed. Questions need to be asked, of Lt. Dikun, Chief O’Hara and last year’s police department liason, Councilwoman Tooker and Councilman Corbally who oversaw the budget.

"I am not trying to place the blame on any one individual. There’s plenty of blame to go around. Our system is supposed to have checks and balances in it. On this occasion the check and balances failed the taxpayer," Reid's statement concluded.

The issue of Dikun's pay is expected to be a hot one at tonight's Point Beach Council meeting at 6:30 p.m. at Borough Hall. (The meetings begin with closed sessions, with the public portion usually not beginning until 7:30 p.m. or afterwards.)

O'Hara and Dikun referred all questions to Gordon.

Gordon said he hopes the public takes the time to understand the reasons for Dikun's overtime.

"There was a public outcry for help with the antics on the boardwalk last summer," Gordon said. "They said they need some assistance, that they needed a lot of overtime. But that costs money.

"Lt. Dikun stepped up to the plate to help," Gordon said.

Last summer, the council authorized $95,000 in extra overtime pay for police officers during the summer, which O'Hara has said was the worst and busiest summer in the past 17 years.

O'Hara, last fall, had said he had asked the council during the summer for $155,000 in additional funding for the police department.

In the summer, the council appropriated $95,000 of the $155,000 requested, mostly for overtime for police officers.

And in September, council allocated the remaining $60,000 requested to hire and train up to 50 more special police officers for next summer, O'Hara said.

The $155,000 will come out of the 2012 municipal budget, since it was not available in last year's budget.

Gordon said the police budget, as well as other facets of the municipal budget "need to be scrutinized. We need to make sure money is spent appropriately. This highlights that the police department is understaffed and they've been understaffed for a while.

"I've been talking to the chief on a routine basis about staffing and overtime," he said. "We'll scrutinize overtime on a monthly basis and hopefully you'll see those numbers come down in the next budget."

When asked if Otto, the retired sergeant, will be replaced, Gordon said, "That's a great question. That hasn't been resolved yet."

Related Topics: Beach, Overtime, Point Beach, Point Beach Council, Point Pleasant Beach, Point Pleasant Beach police, and Salaries

Ken

7:09 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

I guess this clearly points out the problem we as a nation are facing where Government employees are raking in the bucks while employees of private companies and a lot of small business owners are one pay check away from bankruptcy.

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John Wayne

9:02 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Agreed. There is an imbalance. There is to many government employees versus private sectors. Many factory jobs have closed. In the private sector those who are working are making a lot less than our government workers compared to one time not that long ago. It went from one extreme to another. It is getting harder to pay for all these government employees for any town and it has become imbalance for a while, It is just catching up and most towns are in the same predicament they just can't afford to pay and the residents can't absorb it all.

David Daur

7:17 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Even if you're making less than 200k a year, if 70k of that is overtime... let me say it this way instead. If your overtime is more than most people's annual salary, you are part of the 1% and you're out of touch with the people your paid to protect. Then people wonder what's wrong with this Country as Point Pleasant residents taxes keep increasing

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Danny

7:32 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Once again a politican runs off at the mouth without knowing what he is talking about. Reid is making a bunch of wild accusations about a lot of people, before he has any facts. While I agree that it seems like a lot of money, if the Lt. was needed because of some expertise, then he by law has to be paid. He legally can not work for free. And it is again by law his choice if he wants to take it in cash or comp time. And so everyone know, his overtime does not get included in his pension, unlike New York or the Port Authority. Give the Chief a chance to explain why the Lt. was needed before you rush to judgement, like the loud mouth Councilmen did.

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craig

2:50 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Danny- It doesn't "seem" like a lot of money. It "is" a lot of money. And this is not ny or the port aurthority. Don't compare. That's thier problem.

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Uncle Ed

3:20 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

"Danny", The chief had an opportunity to explain when this story broke in the Ocean Star last week. He deferred to council. That is understandable has it's impossible to have a reasonable, logical, or efficient explanation of a quarter million dollars in overtime in one year in a small town. And almost one third goes to one officier! Reid and all the council should be outraged!

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Lifetime Resident

4:13 pm on Sunday, February 12, 2012

Coriolanus post is a statement of fact--- Thank you for being an honest voice in this...and to Danny good points..

Beach_N8iv

7:36 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

First let me say that Councilman Select Stephen Reid does NOT speak for me so let's drop the "I along with the rest of the residents" line. The good people of Point Pleasant Beach don't want to hire more cops and many in the "Eastern" area of town can be heard complaining about poor coverage. You don't want to hire anyone, you get mad when you don't have "enough" coverage and you go nuts over paying for more. Do expect Chief O’Hara to wave a magic wand and just make extra coverage appear from thin air? Granted $70,000 is a lot of overtime maybe it could be spread around among other officers but how many of them wanted it? Oh, by the way, has anyone noticed the new batch of graffiti that appeared around town this past weekend? We need MORE police on the street.

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Cathy Kelly

5:56 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

I agree. Mr.Reid doesn't speak for me or many other residents,it is the select few(and we all know who they are) This is exactly the BS that divides the town. A Politician(who was not only NOT elected once,he was NOT elected twice. Now that he is in,he is on a rant about something he has absolutely no information on. Lt.Dikun is second in command in a town that sees 2 million visitors a year. This summer has been the worse summer in the 10 years that I lived here. The Police Dept. has been saying for years that they are understaffed. When Lt.Dikun justifies his overtime(which I am 100% positive)that he will be able to, I truly hope that Mr.Reid will be a man and apologize for trying to discredit him and the Police Dept. Once again,I am not a cop nor am I related to anyone on the force. I just try to deal with Facts and in this case it doesn't look like any of the posters badmouthing on her have any...

no excuse

7:37 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

This guy should be let go immediately. He let the department and the taxpayers down and took advantage of his position. The prosecutors office should step in and clean house.

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John Wayne

8:55 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

While he is at it. Let him clean house in the entire town. There is an imbalance in this town. It surely is not just the police department.

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Lifetime Resident

4:08 pm on Sunday, February 12, 2012

I hope to god that all of you attacking the police never have to call for help, and because of staffing issues there is no one there to help you when you need it. Because the minute you need help and it's not there you will be the same ones attacking the town for not getting help to you fast enough.
As far as being overpaid, a McDonalds or WaWa store manager makes more than most police officers, without any of the risks.

Rick Ricky

8:03 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Many on the streets of Point Pleasant Beach are complaining about these grossly over paid police in a small seaside shore town. Everyone seems to be saying the same thing. It is not that we have to many police, we have to many whom make more money than they should. Like many have stated before. When you have Philadelphia, NY and Newark police making a lot less than these 1 mile seaside beach resort towns, that is a problem.

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John Wayne

8:49 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

I hope the council explains how the point pleasant beach police department operates. Being the police works 24hrs. a day seven days a week, broken down equates to how many police officers on a shift. Residents complain we have to many police at 21 police. Do we really? Something tells me, we do not. They do not comprehend. This is not a job you get to go home after so many hours. If you do, you are replaced with another police officer. Most residents have been complaining and feel the overtime is mismanagement with in the police dept. Is any funding coming from the state of NJ, or specific programs earmark being we had known problems. We can't sit and argue for hours over something that happened. We need specific ideas on how to change it all and run a more sufficient police department. The problem is the council needs to explain to the residents how the police department is run. Most do not understand about contracts. Any union is going to protect their members. That is their job. So as a town we just can't do what ever we want. We can't violate these contracts or we will be slapped with law suits. But something needs to be done. When all the other town employees are forced to take 17 furlough days off, then our police department should for go raises. Freeze salaries until everyone is back to work without having to take furlough days.

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coriolanus

9:26 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

It is so funny the reaction of Mr Reid,
The police department has been telling the town for years that the cuts from attrition were actually going to cost the town. First off the Police generated a record amount of revenue this year. The Federal Government is paying a large chunk of the overtime from the hurricane. Lt Dikun is actually a NJ attorney and his expertise saves the town thousands in legal fees must likely hundreds of thousands over his career. The town council spent an EXTRA $60,00 in legal fees fighting ridicules law suits like the prayer in a public meeting suit. The police budget is down $400,000 from five years ago!!!! and the Department went from FOUR administration officers to TWO!!! and still is considered one of the finest departments in the State. The lost money on the court shared services....that flop actually cost the taxpayers more money.....and the hits keep coming....This story is a perfect example of how a small amount of information can be dangerous. Mr Reid as truly shown that as a councilman he is lacking....but as a spin doctor lobbyist he excels!

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PPBCORUPTION

10:18 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

What is really funny is Mr. Reid does not know much of what is going on in PPB. He is the one who blurted out at the last council meeting. I do not care about the garbage, leave it like it is. Really? Does he even know what is going on with the garbage? What and who the tax payers are paying for? Or the problems we had over the summer. He needs to stop blurting out comments on issues that he knows nothing about or actually aware of what is going on in the town. He could be a good council member if he stops and listens to those who does know. Someone who is going to give the correct information, not someone on his block. Other wise he will start to look foolish.

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Beach_N8iv

10:21 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Good comments, well thought out. Let's remember that Mr Reid is NOT an elected official, he was appointed (after a rather slick political maneuver) to represent a small yet very vocal minority. His mission, in my opinion, is to help discredit certain other members of the governing body.

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Uncle Ed

3:27 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

coriolanus, your the spin doctor! Your embarressing the police department trying to make Ried the bad guy! This 70 k overtime just will not be accepted by most taxpayers. What about the other town workers who were forced to take days off? How do you think that will do for their morale. 250k in overtime one gets 70 thousand...You just can not make that right!!

local taxpayer

9:30 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Such a shame that this officer was allowed to do this! Isn't this the same municipal township that gave up furlough days to compensate for a lack of funds? $70, 000 would have been enough money to hire two young able bodied police officers. How soon does Lt. Dikun retire? Talk about running up the numbers towards retirement....

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Ginia Moyle

10:19 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Gordon says that the primary reason for all of Lt. Dikuns overtime was Hurricane Irene and a busy summer, correct me if I am wrong but wasn't the $25,000 for all 21 officers and most likely some specials being as it was still summer? Also, why should Lt. Dikun pushing a baby carriage back and forth across the road count as 'overtime'? What did that accomplish? Shouldn't his 'overtime' have been used on something more productive than that? Also, what about all the time he as spent at the Academy? I'm sure that has taken a large chunk of his 'overtime' pay!

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coriolanus

10:30 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Nope your wrong....no overtime for academy and guess what the money that pushing carriage detail made paid for over 50 extra special to work a shift.....Not to mention the "baby carriage" operation was a success battling the on going problem of cars not stopping for pedestrians in direct response to several complaints......

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Ginia Moyle

11:42 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

OK, coriolanus maybe I was a little off with the Academy being considered overtime, but from what I can tell Lt. Dikun goes to the academy on his regular time which in turn means more time at the academy and less time here is Point Beach, thus meaning the lacking time in town needs to be made up resulting in overtime, no?
And that is great that 'Operation Baby Carriage' addressed an ongoing problem in town by why was it Lt. Dikun that could collect overtime at such a high rate when I'm sure we have many capable regular officers who could be put in plain clothes and do this operation, and rotate out so that not just one officer is collecting the overtime, and it could be done at a lower rate. I'm sure the operation would be just as effective and cost the town less.

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coriolanus

12:04 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Ginia once again you don't have enough information to make a valid comment...for one thing for every dollar given to the police department they return 10. The academy does not pay but because the town utilises special officers in the amount they do they most be trained...the special class is mostly Point Pleasant Beach therefore the town sends instructors... LT Dikun teaches some of the most important classes because of his law background. unlike seaside heights and Wildwood who have upwards to 4 lawsuits a year which cost the towns hundreds of thousands and sometimes million Point Pleasant Beach has none and has had none for sometime.

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Ginia Moyle

3:56 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Coriolanus, if you believe that I do not have enough information, being the general public, either you are a member of the Police Department of you are just as informed as the rest of us. Either way, I just would like to have you clarify something for me, in your opinion, was it Lt. Dikun teaching multiple classes at the academy that prevented the town from receiving multiple lawsuits or was it the actions of the Supervisors on the road throughout the day/night that prevented these lawsuits?

coriolanus

10:33 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

What you people don't understand is that the police Department hits it out of the park every year making more money then towns three times their size. If the police department stops being successful your taxes are going to rise three fold.....that a fact.... what people don't understand is the republicans want the town to fail the master plan is to force consolidation and then blame the lack of funds.....get ready for "New Brick"

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Beach_N8iv

1:16 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

I think that even Republicans understand that consolidation is the shortest route to recall petitions and possible court challenges. While they tend to believe that they speak for the majority of the population here in The Beach recent election results don't show it.

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craig

3:01 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

I remember back in the early 60's the feds sent troops to a Ga town for the same thing our police department does. We're famous all over the state for our money grubbing ways.

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Uncle Ed

3:36 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

coriolanus, there you go again! Stop trying to make this look like it's alright. It just will not fly. In these hard times economically with people losing their jobs and not getting any new raises. Along comes a little town and hands out almost two hundred thousand to one officer. Who approved that? and 250 in total overtime to who? The money must have been in the overtime budget? This smells of gross mismanagement.

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John57

6:04 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

Still waiting for you to answer Ginia's question. Also, can't a police explorer push a baby carriage? How about Ocean City N.J. No lawsuits ,no ridiculous overtime toward pension padding. Of course a frivolous lawsuit has nothing to do with a cop with a law degree. Is it an online law degree? Awaiting a response that doesn't start out with an unsubstantiated claim of ignorance.

no excuse

11:08 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Coriolanus sounds like someone on inside of the dept with much detail. This town will never change. The inmates run the asylum. Look around folks because its a ghost town for eight months and the workers struggle to hide. The police department spent 240,000 dollars in overtime during 2011. On what was it spent ? 25,000 on hurricane and 215,000 on operation baby carriage.

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coriolanus

12:30 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

The police dept brought in 1.2 million in revenue last year alone......enough said

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A Resident

9:16 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

"The police dept brought in 1.2 million in revenue last year alone......enough said
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and cost the town that much...plus more...

Spooner

11:11 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

...I just love all the political posturing. . .waiting for the Mayor to way in with his prose. . .So Mayor I know you don't want to engage with me. . .but according to the Ocean Star: total police O/T for 2011 was over $252,000. How much of that money did Police Dept budget for. . .and where is the money coming from that wasn't budgeted. . .and attrition is not a solution here!

The unions and the politicians want to keep tradition going. . .while the citizens are the ones who feel the pain with reduced services. . .Under the surface or behind the scenes which ever you prefer. . .there's a "political strategy" going on, pressuring citizens to get the Governor and Trenton to repeal or amend the 2% property cap, and/or enact more local tax ordinances. . .the bottom line: "more taxes" for property owners and whoever else they can get money out of. . .while [tradition] goes on with growing six figure police costs?

PS: when fatso told everybody to get off the beaches. . .because the coming hurricane upset his vacation. . .How much money did Trenton fork up for extra police costs?

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Uncle Ed

3:57 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Except for the brand new Gordon who was the only one quoted last week in the Ocean Star most council members are ducking this one, Reid is the only other one saying anything critical. Mr Mayor is generally the one being quoted in the newspaper. This time though with an ugly story like this overtime mess he is conspicuouly quiet. Where is the expanation from the council woman Tooker who was in charge of the police in 2011? Corbally silent too. Sounds or doesn't sound like they want to be connected to this mess. Why did they throw Gordon to the angry taxpayers to try and expalin this ?

Vincent

11:21 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Let the Lt walk the streets of Bedford Stuyvestant,NY with my son who is an officer there. He makes $50,000 per year with no overtime. Reality would set in with Lt Dikun real quick that he is overpaid. He would be wishing for the fresh and clean air of the Jersey shore and vision himself back on his segway.

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coriolanus

11:57 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Vincent god bless your son and the men in blue but to be correct NYPD is paid the same as New Jersey Police. NYPD doesnt pay into their pension what makes their salaries appear lower they now make 62,000 base not 50,000 and they retire in 20 years and pay nothing into their pensions...and nothing into health care....on Long Island they have corrections officers that don't work in the jail making a base of $120,000.

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tmcandrew

11:12 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

great Pt...why are salaried employees getiing overtime?

Poppa Piz

11:37 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

What is the problem here? Why is it every time someone makes money in this country it is frowned upon. Especially a civil servent or goverment worker...Give Dikum a friggin break...The issue in hand is a OT cap should be in place if it not is already.
...As for you Vincent, tell your son to take a promotional exam so he can make some money with the NYPD..Also ask him again about how there is no OT in Bedsty, I find that hard to believe...

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coriolanus

12:06 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

I can see the biggest problem here the politicians lie the police try to do a good job...I give up lay-off the cops go down to 18 let the cops file that the town can not fill in with specials and lets see what the summer brings.....I THINK ITS TIME! did any of you live here when it happened in Manasquan....and by the way their overtime was larger then Pt Beach.

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Uncle Ed

4:34 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

We were opposed to the police director idea. Maybe, we made a mistake.

A Resident

12:11 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Let us all remember...the PD wants to promote Dikun to Captain and promote a Sgt. to Lieutenant, than an officer to Sgt.

How about that overtime Bob collected being spent on cops on the street! Not more administrative people.

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coriolanus

1:28 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

oh my god you mean they want a command staff to run the department....hang them all.....

coriolanus

3:46 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

The council meeting is tonight and the Republicans didn't want any normal citizens coming to show support for the police.....just the normal dirty dozen!!!!!

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coriolanus

3:58 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Dear Mr. Reid,
"The Galleries are full of critics. They play no ball. They fight no fights. They make no mistakes because they attempt nothing. Down in the arena are the doers. They make mistakes because they try many things. The man who makes no mistakes lacks boldness and spirit of adventure. He is the one who never tries anything. he is the brake on the wheel of progress ...and yet it cannot be truly said he makes no mistakes,because his biggest mistake is the very fact that he tries nothing,.....does nothing....except criticise those who do things".....Gen David Shoup US Marine Corps Medal of Honor Winner, Mr. Reid reject the Hennessey politics and go against the grain support your Police Department and all that they do!

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Peg Born

4:19 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

That is a huge OT bill!!
Simple math, based on a salary of $126.000.00 or $60.00 per hour on a 40 work week.
$61,000.00 of Straight overtime @ $60.00 an hour would equal 1,023 hours or 23 weeks.
$61,000.00 of Time and Half overtime @ $90.00 an hour would equal 682 hours or 17 weeks.

Suppose it's time and a half -- 17 weeks is almost 33% of the total year. REALLY???
Hurricane Irene didn't last for 17 weeks.....and our summer is only 12 weeks. WHAT was he doing for all these hours of overtime?
Is there a budget for this or does he just work the hours and then everyone scrambles to pay it or figure out what to do? Who does he answer to or get his OT approved by?

I'm sorry, but if anyone has to work 33% of the year in overtime, then clearly something is wrong with the management of the department. Just sayin!

I'd like to get more details on this.

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coriolanus

4:29 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

the overtime is over the whole year your math is wrong its about an average of 10 hrs a week nice try peg!

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Cathy Kelly

9:19 pm on Saturday, February 11, 2012

Peg, the Chief told the previous council what was needed. He has said on numerous occasions that promotions had to happen. He explained why it had to happen,,,,There was a reason for what he was asking for and I believe he made it clear....over and over... Kris Tooker pushed for what the Chief needed but Sean,Jeff and Frank shot it down....they were our councilmen,they were the ones looking out for the taxpayers,the Chief of Police came to them over and over again and told them what they needed,THEY decided to ignore it.....now everyone is up in arms....are you kidding me...We have a phenominal Police Dept.......and maybe you need to go to the source and find out the truth before you judge......we will have to live with the damage that our last council has caused for years to come....find out for yourself what happened and and don't take my word for it but find out the facts,,,thats all I ask for.....

bobo

4:19 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Coriolanus equals Point Beach cop. Anyone who defends a top man in the department and is ok with the police doing as they please because they wrote a lot of tickets needs major pyschlogical evaluation. They should not have a badge. You work for the people.

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bobo

4:22 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Peg- on top of all this they overspent their budget by 150,000 dollars. Where did that money come from ?

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coriolanus

4:24 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

bobo equals republican club......not a cop do attend the meeting though lets chat tonight.

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Uncle Ed

4:49 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

coriolanus, just read back on some of your posts on other stories, when" Reid appointed to Council" for example. One thing certain, your a very angry person. I sure hope your not a police officer. I personally respect the work they do. Most are good people doing a tough job. Your attempt ot justify this 250k in overtime, and 70 k to one man is an embarrassement to the majority of many good cops.

Spooner

4:25 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

@coriolanus: sounds like your playing right into the hands of the PBA and the Trenton politicians. . .along with the locals who want to make an argument to go back to the days of over 11.5% annual property tax increases. . .From 2000 to 2007, local tax rate went up over 80%...
http://www.tax.co.ocean.nj.us/

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coriolanus

4:34 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Spooner last year the town had a chance to close the bars earlier....they voted no that would have meant less cops less overtime less specials.....this is a game

coriolanus

4:30 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Not to mention the time sheets are turned into the Borough Administer every pay period and the council gets copies if they want this is attack against one man for doing the job that was asked of him.....

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coriolanus

4:32 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

bobo now i know who you are the number your talking about is $140,00 and the Police reduced their budget $400,000 in the last four years. The republican club is killing the town....and I agree fire all the cops hire no specials let Rome burn!!!!

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coriolanus

4:32 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

The police brought in 1.2 million next year when its 600,000 what will you people say!!! answer me that

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coriolanus

4:37 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Last year when the council had their shot to close the bars earlier they ran like scared children showing they are in the pockets of the board-walk......I agree downsize the police force.....close the bars earlier and we will not need as much.....I have an idea close all the bars make it Bay Head and we can have Eight cops....Republican in this town you hate the cops and what they do but then beg them to keep the Board-walk under raps such nonsense.....this whole thing is corrupt!

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Art Penrose

4:37 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Forget the overtime. A Police Officer making $125,272 a year in Point Pleasant is huge. No wonder the town is broke.

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Peg Born

4:38 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Coriolanus -- my math is correct as an average. $61,428.00 divided by $90.00 per hour OT is a total of 682.5 total hours. And that's if it's time and a half. If the overtime is straight pay you're looking at even more hours. I don't care how you spread it out -- by week, or by year --- it's a LOT of hours to work overtime.

It is not my intention to attack the Lt. -- it's a red flag in my book when someone has to work this much OT, in my mind something is wrong. Do we need more officers?
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coriolanus

4:40 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

YES we do they know it too they have been told this There is a report that says staff should be at 24 they are at 21.

bobo

4:39 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Republican club not. Educated citizen yes. I will be there. You should keep your trap shut. You have buried yourself enough today

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Uncle Ed

4:58 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Good suggestion bobo!!! I doubt he will heed your advice....be careful, this is a very angry individual.

coriolanus

4:42 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

bobo that seems threatening I may have to report you to the police.

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coriolanus

4:46 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Denise, BOBO just threatened me!!!!!LOL

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bobo

4:47 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Coriolanus- go arrest the seagulls on the boardwalk. They are pooping in public.

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coriolanus

4:50 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

BOBO your great......made my day

bobo

4:50 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

You must be off today or working the night shift later

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coriolanus

4:51 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Bobo go hit some golf balls.....

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bobo

5:07 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

No thank you. Not my cup of tea. See you tonight and keep defending this corruption.

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Darlene Motto

12:13 am on Friday, February 10, 2012

bobo, What corruption is that?

SoylentGreen

5:08 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Nothing like a story about the police department to bring out all the cop haters in town. What a pathetic bunch you are.

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Laura

6:13 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Just curious, if you didn't have to pay that OT and had hired additional full-time officers, how much would you have have to spend on funding their pensions, hospitalization, social security, etc. I do think it is an over-the-top amount but what would the cost have been for a number (whatever #) of full-time officers?

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bg robbins

1:55 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

I have often wondered how officers can stand the boredom of driving around a small town for hours on end where nothing happens .....Now I Know.

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Darlene Motto

12:11 am on Friday, February 10, 2012

bg robbins, Really? Not from the police report that was read out loud at the council meeting. It was only from the past two weeks. There is plenty going on in this small town.

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Lifetime Resident

3:38 pm on Monday, February 13, 2012

Mr Robbins...before you make that statement go sit in municipal court for a day, or go buy a scanner and listen to it

Bryn Devon

8:48 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

Councilman Reid is certainly entitled to voice his own opinion, but "I along with the rest of the residents are outraged" I find quite an overreaching claim. Not this resident. Some of us wait to find out the facts before we judge the situation.

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Charles W. Bogert

1:40 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

In the real world, there are those individuals at the upper echelon who do not receive OT. OT is reserved for hourly wage personnel or at least persons not having top level positions. That is why their salaries compute out higher than say janitorial personnel.
In government, such upper echelon employees are categorized as "exempt" personnel are not eligible for OT. That is how at least Lts., Capts, Asst. Chiefs, and Chiefs should be treated paywise. The contract between the Pt. Beach Borough and the Police Dept. should be invalid as far as covering those positions I just noted.

Anyone with any municipal experience in the State of NJ must know this or perhaps
the governing body is doin' the "head-in-the-sand" bit?

Charlie Bogert

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Darlene Motto

12:09 am on Friday, February 10, 2012

Charles, The problem is. We only have A Chief of Police and 1 Lt., We do not have Captain, or Asst. Chief, we are short. Most police departments have a Chief, Captain, 2 Lts. or Assisting Chief that is our problem. We are understaff and the reason why our department is being mismanaged thanks to our prior council.

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pointman

9:14 pm on Friday, February 10, 2012

Question how many Police Officers have been hired since Mayor Barrella took over. answer: 1 and he didnt what to do that one. Corbally and the Mayor put last years budget together. How much money was put in that budget for hiring or promotions? answer ;0 How many times before this last meeting has the Mayor pushed for promotons or hiring? While there is a need for a supervisor or 2 nobody and that means Mayor or council really pushed for the police department. And while he worked the hours and earned it $70,000 is out of line .

Darlene Motto

12:19 am on Friday, February 10, 2012

With all these comments. I can't help to wonder what some of these individuals do for a living? How much are they making and what do they think they are worth. Some on here seemed to think they are so experienced and being a police is a cake job. Sure it is. I can almost bet, most here could not handle being a police officer.

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Cathy Kelly

9:34 pm on Saturday, February 11, 2012

Pointman,is that really all that you can come up with? haha Who was on council that had to approve the promotions? Was it the Mayor? I believe that you are suffering from"YOUR REIGN IS OVER"haha...

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Local for Years

10:55 am on Sunday, February 12, 2012

The problem is the union contracts. The town needs to renegotiate these town contracts and make the starting salary for new cops much lower. Also, I think the new cops, after a new contract is in place, show be told they will not be receiving a pension from the town. The town will set up a 401k plan and the new cops will make a decision to join. The town could match the new cops contribution, up to 6%. Th is how it works in the corporate world these days. There is no pension. This would eliminate the town taking care of the retired cops ( and all new town employees) for the rest of their lives. This would also help keep the taxes down in the town since the town would no longer have to pay the retired employees. A simple solution which will never take place because you have council members and town employees who's families have been working for the town and they know they have a secure job with a good pension. The town needs a plan that puts the responsible of a pension on the employee and not the tax payers of the tow. The salaries for all the employees are out of hand.

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A Resident

12:11 pm on Sunday, February 12, 2012

Only problem with that....why would the police accept lowering their current contract? What will they get in return for those concessions?

Remember....contracts are negotiated, not dictated.

And when they can't agree....binding arbitration....and the unions almost always win that.

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PennyStocks

4:55 pm on Monday, February 13, 2012

Local

Tell us which members of the Council have members of their families working for the town and who those family members are.

Local for Years

12:53 pm on Sunday, February 12, 2012

To A RESIDENT
Not asking for present cops or employes for a concession. Would apply to all new town employees, if a new contract is negotiated. (Again, I do not think it it will happen).
The problem is the unions and the civil service contracts. All the local towns look and see what the other town employees are negotiating for and then they want the same. The contracts should be based on what the individual town can afford to pay their employees. Not what the employees want from the town. Until the contracts are renegotiated and new employees are offered lower starting salaries and they also understand they will be responsible for their own retirement and not a pension from the town, the taxpayers will be paying higher taxes every year the contracts are in effect. I'm sure there are plenty of individuals who would be happy to join the Point Pleasant Police and also take town jobs, at a lower salary. Lets be real, the union contracts and civil service laws are the problem.

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Laura

5:46 pm on Sunday, February 12, 2012

Local,

I have to agree with several, no, all of your points. I, also, agree none of it will probably ever happen. Does the Beach pay Social Security also for it's employees? The Boro does. So employees not only receive a pension but Social Security. Not every town was dumb enough to do that. It wasn't required, I believe one of our Boro Administrators long ago instituted that one and, now, you cannot get out of it. That's about another 7 1/2% on top of everything else.

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A Resident

8:35 am on Monday, February 13, 2012

Laura, most times, retired police (and firemen) do not get to collect Social Security due to their having funded pensions....yet they pay into SS.

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Laura

10:00 am on Monday, February 13, 2012

Local,

I don't know how the Beach works it but in the Boro, retired employees not only receive their pension but social security also.

Lifetime Resident

8:43 pm on Sunday, February 12, 2012

The individual employee pays into social security.. it is a deduction out of their paycheck, pensions are also a deduction of between 7-9 percent out of each employees paycheck, benefits are also a deduction, and within the next 3 years each and every government employee will be paying 35 percent of their benefit costs, which conservatives estimates that will be between $650-750 per month..If they are part of a union, they pay additional union dues, such as the PBA,, So they average government employee will be paying nearly half of their salaries to cover their benefits. If you don't believe this you can look all of it up online. As far as "A Resident"'s comment about unions and binding arbitration.. Unless your previous contracts agree to binding arbitration for any new contracts, the employer does not have to agree to arbitration. My company has been in contract negotiations for 4 years and as a union delegate I can tell you NJ labor laws favor the employer not the employee.. My employer refuses to agree to arbitration and it is completely legal because we have no past contract agreeing to it.

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Local for Years

9:04 pm on Sunday, February 12, 2012

Just think if the employees didn't have to pay 7% to 9% of their pay for pension and the additional union dues, think how much they could save. Take part of of that money and put it in a 401k, which could be match at between 2% to 6% by the town. After they retire, they would have plenty of money as a pension. If they decide to leave and go to another job, they can roll that money over, keep it invested and start a new plan at a new job. As far as the 35% for benefits ($650 to $750 per month), I think you a little high on that cost. Employees in the real corporate world are subject to the same cost you are talking about with the exception of the union dues/fees. The whole pay system for government employees has gotten out of hand. Tax payers can't continue to foot the bill (pay, benefits & pension) for these employees. It's time for them to realize they can't keep asking for raises when the people who work in the corporate world are having their salaries frozen because company profits are down. As I said before, if nothing is done, the taxes will be raised every year, even with the 2% cap.

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A Resident

8:34 am on Monday, February 13, 2012

PD's are not run by private companies and the Towns do not have a choice to agree with arbitration. It is State law. Private companies...yes. Public towns...no.

NJ labor laws may favor the employer in the private world....not in the public world.

Lifetime Resident

10:11 pm on Sunday, February 12, 2012

Local for years.....since I have family employed by the state and I have seen the figures for the projected cost in 3-4 years. Several towns paying 8% are paying $92 per paycheck now... That's 184.00 a month... You do the math and add inflation to that. I am in private sector and my company charges $200 a month for family coverage and that's 7.5 percent of their cost..and it is one of the worst plans out there. If you take the time to look up the costs online and do the research the figures are correct.
And I suggest you look at the 10's of millions of dollars NJ has raided and withheld from the pension fund. It was self sustaining until the state started raiding it, a practiced that began with Whitman and still continues today..

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Local for Years

8:44 am on Monday, February 13, 2012

Peg - I'm worked for a large corporation, in NJ, and I pay over $400 a month for my family coverage (at one point in my career, it was free). The government employees have most of their benefits for free. Now that they are being asked to contribute, they are upset. Cost go up and companies have to pass those cost onto the employees. Welcome to the real world. Why do people always look back and blame other administrations. The state has a problem now, there is nothing the old administration can do about it. The present administration, in NJ, is addressing the problem. One which was ignored by administrations after Whitman. Unions like the plumbers, electricians & carpenters are responsible for their employees pensions and don't depend on govenment money. Government employees pensions are paid by employee contributions, dues and tax payer money. Do you see why tax payers are upset when they see town employees making high salaries and prensions? Things need to change.

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Spooner

11:43 am on Monday, February 13, 2012

@Local: they the unions and politicians prefer as much of the status quo as they can get. There waiting for the economy to get better and everyone will just go back to the way things were. . .As I said. . .back to the 11.5% annual property tax increases in the Beach, or some facsimile of it. For years. if not decades they( the public employees) have been receiving the best of medical benefits for them and their families, perks, and pension retirements: for instance-48 years of age-pension payouts amounting to $40-50,000 a year. . .

...and Local: working for the govt. . .has been a gravy train for these people. . .not only was one family member working, but both husband and wife, brothers and sisters . . . then passing it down to their children. . . In 2007, State Senator Kyrillos stated that about 25% employed in New Jersey. . .worked for government. . .the best employment New Jersey had to offer. . .

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Lifetime Resident

3:35 pm on Monday, February 13, 2012

employees have been contributing toward their benefits for at least the last 3-5 years depending on, can be looked up online. I pay 9k a year in property taxes, I don't have a problem with police or municipal salaries.I do have a problem with outrageous benefit packages given to politicians who served less than 10 years. I have a problem with high ranking officals holding 2 full time state jobs and get 2 pensions. With schools laying off teachers and cutting programs while board of Ed administrators get huge salaries & retirement plans. I have a problem with politicians going on golf outings, and vacations on tax payer money,and a governor who flies in a helicopter to his kids baseball games while he attacks the working class employees . I have a problem with people who manage to get themselves qualified for disability and there is nothing wrong with them..they can go our drinking and dancing but they can't work...I see it everyday in my job. someone driving a brand new BMW who hands me a medicaid card...I also see this everyday. Yes things have to change, and if politicians back off reckless spending, and a real effort was made to go after welfare fraud and curtail double dipping, there would be no need to attack our government employees
To Laura, I have a friend who retired from Point .She isn't being "given" social security, she paid into for over 40 years

Laura

7:18 pm on Monday, February 13, 2012

Peg,

They have paid into it since around 1988. I know employees who are working past 65 and getting paid and receiving SS. That's a fact.

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Laura

7:22 pm on Monday, February 13, 2012

Peg,

I also confirmed with a retired employee of the PD. Retired employee can get early SS at 62 or wait until 65. That's plus pension.

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Lifetime Resident

6:12 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

Those people still have social secuity withheld from their paychecks..Are you saying they are not entitled to collect benefits they have paid into? I just trying to clarify?
Laura, you are right they do get social secirity, but it's not given to them they paid into for years in any job they had during their life time, unless they were self employed or a private contractor and opted to not pay. I have been paying into social securiy since I was 14 working at the boardwalk. I am sure that you have paid into it also.

John57

5:12 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

None of this would have happened had the PBA allowed a police director instead of a new chief when DePola retired at 47. Yes at 47, he's on a paid vacation for the rest of his life, just like the 4 other Beach police chiefs. Maybe he'll double-dip like most of the unionized government retirees in their 40's. DePola's pension/benefits package is estimated to cost taxpayers over 3 million. Directors work well in Newark and other cities. But,no the PBA thugs had to picket, intimidate and wrote no tickets for 2 weeks. The council gave in. This is why taxpayers are fed up. We don't hate cops.We hate overpaid and over pensioned tax takers.
Isn't the law state you need 1 cop for every 500 residents? 5,200 residents in a square mile town. Humm. Can't meter maids and auxiliaries take up the slack in the summer? Let's face it, except for some drunks, there's really no crime here. Can't recall a cop ever having to draw his weapon. Barney Fife would do O.K here. And what's with all their online degrees. Extra pay?
Reid does speak for us. He won 3 out of 4 districts, I don't know what you idiots near the beach were promised but why are your shocked there's noise when the bars let out. Remember Gordon is a lifetime tax taker and sees the taxpayers as an endless supply of money. This why is Greece bankrupt. To many people working for government and not enough tax makers.
And didn't Dikun sue the town twice? Yeah, good thing he's a lawyer. How much did that cost the taxpayers?

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Beach_N8iv

5:54 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

Yeah, some political hack who knows NOTHING about our town would have made this mess all better, right? Just like the council that refuses to allow promotions have made this mess all better.

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Laura

9:22 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

ohn,

The problem with a Police Director: They would be nothing more than a political hack. As the Beach flops back and forth, I'm not sure how well that would work.

Blame every previous council for the salary levels. Those councils didn't mind giving out generous raises with your money. It seems all those elected didn't know that the government jobs paid less because it was a trade-off. You received a lower pay but you received fantastic benefits and a pension. Those elected officials wanted to be magnanimous with your money. Once one town started raising the salary levels, they all piggy-backed on that. Don't they call that parity?

John57

5:41 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

I wish I was on time for this discussion. Isn't overtime paid on a daily basis? Say a cop works 10 hours one day and 6 hours the next day. Is he actually paid 2 hours of overtime even though it was 16 hours in 2 days? And doesn't overtime also start after 35 hours for the week? Did I hear this right? How about it tax takers and your family members?

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A Resident

8:26 am on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

John57, you have 1 thing right in your few posts....you were late to the discussion.

Now for a few facts in response to your musings....Newark has a Police Director. Newark also has a Police Chief. So Newark is paying 2 people to do that job that 1 does. Why? Because the time required for a Chief Administrator is more than a Chief can put in and a Director does not have the authority that a Chief does.

No, Dikun did not sue the town...he sued Point Boro. In case you didn't know...Point Beach and Point Boro are 2 separate towns.

Overtime is not daily, it's based on their contracted 40 hour week. If he works more than 40....it's overtime. Sorry, that's simply a federal law.

You obviously have no understanding of the law if you believe meter-maids (not their correct name by the way) and auxiliaries (which don't exist in PPB) could "take up the slack" in summer.

Just because you don't recall hearing about a cop drawing his weapon does not mean it hasn't happened. I can remember the last shooting in town by a cop. I can also remember a shooting happening in the middle of a street in PPB. Things are not a quiet as everyone wants to believe. (and maybe that quietness is due to having a good police presence?)

There is no retired Chief DePola. If you are going to make up lies about someone...at least have the decency to know his name. DePolo.

Lifetime Resident

5:59 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

No, overtime is based on exceeding 40 hours in a given work week. Some departments work 8 hour shifts, some work 10 hour shifts all based on a 40 hour work week. Their salaries are based on 40 hour work weeks as are most full time government jobs(not all but most)...There are very few out there based on less, but even those based on 35-36 are not eligible for overtime until the employee exceeds 40 hours.

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John57

7:21 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

A police director a political hack? Yeah we wouldn't want some cop making 70 grand in overtime and we certainly wouldn't want to save the taxpayers millions by giving another guy a 6 figure pension/benefits package and a 6 figure payout for unused sick and vacation days. Noooo our police chief is working just fine!
In Newark the police chief works under the director DeMaio. It's not 2 people doing the job of one. I'm sure it's to prevent the things like outrageous overtime and the like. You know, like the stuff going on here. How about Wooodbridge's police director? POP around 100,000. Hired from within, no union thugs, no intimidation and no work stoppage. Will save the taxpayers millions.
When I have a question it's followed by a (?) It's not a statement.
So"a resident" your union mentality is so evident. What lies about Depola? No "o".I want to see if you can get any more childish. What shootings? Give me dates please. Also, and this is huge. Anybody please answer, Is Dikun's pension based on his last 3 years and/or high 3?

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Cathy Kelly

7:36 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

John,you have brought the word "ignorant"to a whole new level....

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John57

4:16 pm on Thursday, February 16, 2012

That's all you got? Name calling? If you have facts to prove me wrong then do it!!!! But you don't!! None of you taxtakers do. It's just opinion. Weren't you the one who thinks we get between 1-2 million people at one time in our town, during the summer. Who's bringing the word ignorant to a new level now? I hope you aren't the smart one in your family.

Peter Pan

4:58 pm on Thursday, February 16, 2012

John... minimum I.Q. of 75 before you can post. Please stay off.

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Cathy Kelly

5:37 pm on Thursday, February 16, 2012

John57(aka,coward hiding behind an alias) first off you were the one that was calling names,remember your comment" I don't know what you idiots near the beach"etc...Second,I NEVER said 1-2 million people at one time so stop blatantly lying in order to make yourself sound smart.Third,you have made the same posts over and over and have received the facts about the Police director,pension etc...yet you continue to post nonsense...I think you should find a new hobby,just an opinion. Obviously you cannot comprehend english....

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John57

6:25 pm on Thursday, February 16, 2012

Cathy Kelly. I didn't know you are in charge of the patch. All your friends with aliases cowards too? Pete is that all you got? . I know the truth hurts and you don't want to hear it, but when you can't "comprehend" it has to be repeated. This is from your post on 2-15-12 7:33 PM "(which by the way is close to 1-2 million people in a one square mile town)". That's your quote in parenthesis. Find a smarter way to write that.

Lifetime Resident

1:05 pm on Friday, February 17, 2012

Cathy Kelly...I just want to say Thank YOU!
John57... a police director is a political appointment...so we go back to Jersey's favorite game of playing political favoritsm by putting an unqualified politically connected individual (i.e.) hack) in a job that should be done by an experienced police officer. More than likely that police director would make as much if not more than a chief...Again as I have suggested to you before...Go online and research what police directors get paid and how they are appointed before you make unsupported comments that are based on heresay, personal opinion and rumor not on factual data.

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John57

8:04 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012

Oh Peg so ignorant. From all of you, I'm still waiting for facts to prove me wrong. A director (usually a retired cop) can make schedules and he doesn't get pension and benefits! What don't you understand about that? Ex-chief, Depola will get over $3 million in pension and benefits if he lives to age 77. Around $87,000 in pension and $24,000 in benefits per year. I'm not even mentioning that lovely 6 figure payout for unused sick an vacation days. Do I really have to show you the math equation? You don't need a calculator or do you? A director gets no pension and benefits. Saves millions. Agree? If that's a hack, than hack away. Be specific, what did I say was hearsay, personal opinion and rumor? I'm waiting. Prove me wrong with facts. You can't nobody can't. All you can say is I'm wrong,low IQ etc.

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murray

9:14 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

Is this O'Hara related to the O'Hara police chief in Keansburg? The chief of police O'Hara retired as chief and the next day took a supervisor job at the Chief of police Salary.

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murray

9:17 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

This is a perfect example that the only people that can live in New Jersey are the crooked politcans, doctors, lawyers and high ranking police officers.

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