Shooting At Best Western On Route 70 In Lakewood
Victim suffered non-life-threatening injuries, police said
One person was hospitalized after a shooting reportedly took place at the Best Western on Route 70 in Lakewood, according to Lakewood police.
The victim, whom police declined to identify, suffered "non-life-threatening injuries," according to police.
The victim was transported to Jersey Shore Medical Center in Neptune. Lakewood police said they had no further information on the incident or the suspect.
C
10:29 am on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
What the heck is going on with all these shootings?
Matt
10:36 am on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Happy New Year from Lakewood! Now let's bust a cap in yo a$$!
Callaspade Aspade
10:40 am on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
is that near the nuthouse hotel?
.
6:40 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
While I don't quite think "nuthouse" hotel is the proper name, they answer is no. The Best Western is across Route 70 from Exit 88 of the Parkway. This is not the hotel at Rtes 70 and 9.
Patricia Perillo
3:34 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
These are the hotels that were given out by FEMA for flood victims to stay at.No wonder, you can enter, but you will never leave, 'cause they will shoot you. I would rather be homeless than shot at. That is why claims for flood housing has dropped, no one wants to stay in hell. We have already been to pergatory by the devastation to our homes !!
Tina
4:28 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
we were offered lodging, however the only hotel near us (we are from Seaside Heights) was in Atlantic City. I wouldnt want to stay in neither town.
Doreen Wittek
10:41 am on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
How bout just a little more information?
JB08753
10:52 am on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
We have the what, the where, somewhat of a who, but where is the when?. Was it about an hour ago or in the middle of the night when all the drunks where out??????
jerseyshoregirl4
7:59 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
According to another news report, this happened shortly after midnight, Monday night/early Tuesday morning.
HELP..
11:33 am on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Too many guns in the wrong hands...
George Murphy
8:38 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
...and, too many wrong hands. Period!
Elaine
11:47 am on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
come on they had the right to bear arms
George Murphy
8:40 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
No Elaine, they only have the right to "bare" hands.
sandybottom
11:49 am on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
yes we should all be armed
Dennis
11:53 am on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
That's it, blame it on the guns.Who was responsible for releasing that nut job in NY state. Haven't
heard a word.
Gilbert C. Wels
12:00 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
People will not believe that old saying People kill with guns, guns themselves do not kill people
Gil Wels
barbara
1:44 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
for sure, it is not the gun that kills, it is the person who shoots it. will they ever understand this?
Elaine
12:03 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Dennis now follow the bouncing ball
the nut job in ny state got the guns from another nut job in ny
you see Dennis we need an assault weapons ban to protect us from the nuts and the nuts from themselves oh yeah you dont need and cant use an assault weapon
John B Taxpayer
4:45 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Should we ban your fork because you're fat?
Ban you cell phone because you text and drive? Anyone that wants to BAN anything is a moron and un American. America is about freedoms not Bannings! Ask a veteran...
4Liberty
7:14 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." (Thomas Jefferson, Proposal Virginia Constitution, 1 T. Jefferson Papers, 334,[C.J.Boyd, Ed., 1950])
"The right of the people to keep and bear...arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country..." (James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434 [June 8, 1789])
“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." (James Madison, The Federalist Papers #46 at 243-244)
“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States" (Noah Webster in `An Examination into the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution', 1787, a pamphlet aimed at swaying Pennsylvania toward ratification, in Paul Ford, ed., Pamphlets on the Constitution of the United States, at 56(New York, 1888))
Laura
9:47 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
John B.,
Can we ban your moronic posts because .....?
Michael Hendrickson
12:11 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.
Richard Schiff
12:18 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Guns? Designed to KILL! Matches? To light candles. Education? Priceless Mike. Get one.
clamdigger
3:47 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
and forks make people fat
patriotmfd
12:13 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
too many wrong hands period
Captain Ed
12:18 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Some of you people are true morons. Only morons blame it on the guns.
Like Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma bombing. Like 168 people killed. More kids then in Conn.
Did we ban fertilizer, and fuels, NOPE.
Would it be stupid to blame that stuff. YES.
I rest my freaking case.
Mark Wendell
6:16 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
There are much more restrictions on fertilizer than guns.
Also if the government of the usa didn't ignore his in head trama caused while in service maybe it never happened. The logic of arm everybody is nuts and gun nuts can only come up with idiotic one liners to defend themselves. Its time we force the secession of the wack job south and then right wing nuts can move there.
A Polymath
12:25 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
It took me 6 Months to obtain a NJ Firearm ID card. Does it take that long before you can buy Ammonium Nitrate fertilizer and Diesel?
You are suffering from Rectal-Cranial Inversion! ( For the less literate, that's when your head is up your a$$....
Marynary
12:18 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
When a monster with a machete is kicking in your front door it is too late to call 911.
It is up to you to protect your family.
Elaine
1:32 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
lol lol lol really? and this happens? wow agenda 21
barbara
1:45 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
agree.........
Elaine
1:53 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Mary
Im sure you are aware that you can carry in Tx,Fl, Co
with your logice there should be no violent crime do you think that is true?
Now Mary
lets play rambo
Mary is walking in the mall when in walks a guy armed with a AR 15
2 part question
a what are you going to do with your 9 mm?
b when the cops arrive and see you waving a gun are you going to die was well?
you betcha
Project Bluebeam
2:08 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Elaine, a bullet in the head of the deranged dude with the AR-15 ends the threat. Of course, you can opt to call 911 and wait for the cops to arrive (and hope you don't die). Then again, if we stopped doping our kids with behavior drugs wouldn't have this problem.
Marynary
4:37 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Elane, aren't you just a perky little mommy crusader....Not too bright, but perky and just full of sarcastic lessons for all us.
I made no mention of a firearm in my post.
If you don't feel stupid.......you should.
Marynary
5:01 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
This person is an editor for Patch?
I got the information below by clicking on the name "Elaine" in a post directed at me.
"Editor Elaine Piniat elaine.piniat@patch.com"
So sarcastic and misleading postings by this person are an organized product of Patch?
I valued the local news provided by the Patch system. But have to say I am a little surprised to see one of the more caustic posters in the comment section is part of the Patch editorial staff. Somehow that seems improper.
Catherine Galioto
5:07 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
@Marynary
The profile of the commenter you clicked on is not the editor's.
Elaine
5:21 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
now dont you look stupid
Marynary
6:08 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
I guess for once you got something right Elane. My complaint makes me look stupid.
I guess when I clicked on your name it took me to Lacy Patch where you must be registered and Elaine Piniat happens to be the editor in Lacy and has her picture and e-mail at the top of the page devoted to your postings.
This is good as I really find Patch informative for local news and also find a lot of the remarks in the comment section to be informative. Your political leanings would not be proper postings for an editor. Your sarcasm would be very unprofessional for an individual representing Patch. The Patch would have to keep their remarks factual and accurate. So obviously you should have no official position.
My apologies to Ms. Piniat for mistaking her for a zelot.
Mark Wendell
6:19 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Dear mass murder with a machete can you wait a minute while I run to the bedroom to get my gun out of the closets top shelf, thanks.
Gene
6:40 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
The only arms in my house are my left and my right.
pd
8:30 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
You don't need a semi automatic assault rifle to stop an intruder. Your handgun should be more than sufficient. If it isn't, it might be better if you didn't have any guns in the first place.
Laura
9:51 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
If you need an assault weapon, wouldn't it be MONSTERS? If you need an assault weapon because you cannot hit the side of a barn with a handgun, you probably aren't competent enough to have any weapon.
Laura
9:54 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
MoonBeam,
You'd have to be a really good shot to get around all his body armor and helmet, don't you think or do you not worry about all the other "what if" scenarios?
Laura
9:57 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Marynary,
You take a first name on here and you jump to erroneous conclusions? Now who's looking stupid?
Captain Ed
12:25 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
By the way, listen closely now, there is NO SUCH THING AS ASSAULT WEAPONS.
That is a media and politically made up name.
Machine guns are banned almost everywhere for years.
And the few places that allow are places that your neighbor is like a mile away. And getting one for most people is almost impossible.
Semi automatics have been around over 100 years.
And changing clips takes two seconds.
We had an assualt ban for years. It did NOTHING except hinder law abiding citizens. So it was ABOLISHED.
If you need to learn more about this just ask me since many of you know very little.
Gene
6:41 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
If you learn to shoot straight , you don't need an assault weapon
Michele Dimeo
7:14 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Gene,
It's not about shooting straight. My husband owns 2 semi automatic weapons in which he thoroughly enjoys going to the range and shooting with his friends. Its about the right to bear arms. If you do no want to do so that's okay, but you should leave your negative comments to yourself.
Michele Dimeo
7:16 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Captain Ed, I completely agree with you. Unfortunately the laws in NJ are getting tougher and I'm not sure for the right reasons.
Gene
8:15 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
I used to do that on the boardwalk as a kid. Too many deaths from too many real guns! We have the most guns of any nation and we are NOT the safest. The country that comes in 2nd with half as many guns is Yemen. Australia conservative politicians passed a law a few years ago that said, you cannot purchase a weapon unless you show that you NEED it. Guess what? Crimes with guns in that country have dropped. Source: FactCheck http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/gun-control-in-australia/
Captain Ed
12:26 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Amen Mary.
Michael Hendrickson
12:29 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Hey Richard ..Why don't we start blaming forks for people being to fat you clown
Richard Schiff
4:44 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
aint blaming anything here but IGNORANCE! Shoe fits? wear it! Your ignorance is not as good as my Knowledge. Sorry! Chump!
rosa
12:57 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
yes but the fat person with the fork is only hurting themselves not anyone else.
So the fork comments just dont make sense.
skizma
12:36 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
marynary....seriously? a machete? Kicking down your front door? Yup, everyday occurance. Protect your family, yeah. guns should and need regulation. Everyone of you have rights, but they are regulated. Not taken away. Get over it. Be a mature, intelligent adult. but, then it's scary thinking some of you actually have guns. Even drive a car. A deadly vehicle. The only reason a car isn't used more often in deadly force is because of the sefishness of the culprit. The drive would get hurt. A gun is a chicken's weapon. A power idiot uses one. You pull the trigger and you are not deliberately hurt. It would be the other persons fault for pulling the other trigger if you get hurt. It's a blameless item. It points like your finger would, at the OTHER person. Not yourself and you wouldn't be at all responsible for anything. Guns have no place in a civilized society. But that's assuming the people are tempered and rational. Huh....only in America will you find so many irrational selfcentered egotists.
Marynary
12:49 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Thank you skizma for pointing out just how idealistic some sheltered people can be.
I made a simple statement that when your family is in danger it is too late to call the cops and it is up to the individual to protect the family. I made no mention of firearms.
You then gave a lecture pertaining to your values and opinions. I am sure you will not see the foolishness but others may be laughing at your lack of experience and perception.
Project Bluebeam
2:12 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Skizma (along with 60% of Americans) seems to be suffering from "normalcy bias". When SHTF, these will be the people sitting around waiting for the government to rescue them. Can't think outside the box, can't fend for themselves.
barbara fusco
12:38 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Is this connected to the Robery post earlier in beachwood on lakewood page?
Elaine
5:24 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Hey Mary mke you can hold off the would be perps with your BS?
Sandra
12:40 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
What do you expect? The entire Nation is topsy turvy, hanging on with their fingernails. Add booze to the mix and you got violence. Happy New Year 2013. What a way to start it off. Same ole, same ole.
Bricktown Lew
1:12 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Bull's eye, Sandra! Like our area isn't violent enough, add some alcohol with some tired and edgy "element" of our area and you have the recipe for more intense violence. There you go!
billy jones
1:25 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Guns kill yes this is true. But the person pulling the trigger is the true killer. I have 6 semi auto weapons which all hold more than 20+rounds. I use them for target practice. I am an American citizen and therefore it is my right. True tragedy what happend here. But if they would just let normal people to carry we wouldn't have these problems.
Elaine
1:35 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Funny how right wing nut jobs leave out the part about forming a miltia
ya might wanna go to you tube and watch what the Chief Justice has to say
Nj Ghost
2:07 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
UHHHH Billy...May I suggest that you check the laws in nj? Assuming you are from NJ...In nj it's a felony to have a semi auto that hold more than 15 rounds...But I'm happy you have a semi anyway
Project Bluebeam
2:14 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
I guess Elaine can't express her thoughts without condescending remarks? Typical leftist behavior.
JOHNNY Done it
11:16 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Bull crap you mean 20 oz clip for your water gun...
billy jones
1:27 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Please don't blame alcohol. I go to the shooting range all the time with alcohol in my system just to keep me relaxed.
JOHNNY Done it
12:11 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
WE know that not true ,based on your comments your are not fit to have a legal weapon you may be the ones with the illegal weapon ,and you would have shot your foot off by now..
David Sexton
1:33 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
I'll be damned if I'm going to let some flat foot come into my home and try to take my AR-10 assault rifle that I use to hunt with and protect my family if need be..I can assure you that it will be over my dead body
Elaine
1:49 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Dont think that would be poblem there David but Im also pretty sure the new laws wont be retro
Nine people shot in New York since the city rang in the New Year... but miraculously none of the victims have died
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/7-shot-nyc-new-years-day-article-1.1230886#ixzz2GkbwYoXZ
gee i wonder where these ppl got the guns? my guess is they were stolen from those "responsible gun owners"
Project Bluebeam
2:15 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
No Elaine, they are most likely smuggled in, stolen, or purchased from Eric Holder.
Laura
10:05 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
What exactly do you hunt? The whole herd? You must have a very large family to feed.
A Polymath
12:38 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
New laws won't be retro? The NJ "assault weapon" ban made the possession of certain weapons and magazine over 15 rounds ILLEGAL. Lawfully purchased items were declared VERBOTEN and possession was made a crime. The Constitutional right to private property was shredded.... In California, the law banned future purchases, but items that were legally obtained were grandfathered and remained legal to own. Here anyones property was criminalized if they owned such things...
George Murphy
8:50 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
That's correct Dave. Just do it right and they should have no reason to say a word. Whatever the 'left' says, I tend to seek the opposite for the good of the order.
barbara
1:46 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
short story, where is the rest of it? hmmm?
Elaine
5:42 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
@bluebeam
Fast And Furious-Like 'Gun-Walking' Probe Mentioned In 2007 Bush Administration Memo long before Black Jesus
billy jones
2:11 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
My guess is that the guns were bought on the black market. But thanks for stopping by Elaine.. now you can go back to bed.
Elaine
8:33 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
because they got stolen from "you responsible gun nuts"
Eric
2:24 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Mr. Schiff ... that was one of the dumbest things i have ever read. Mikes valid point was it is not the object it how someone uses it. You need to take a fews classes. Hands can feed, help others, build, or choke. The choice is up to the user not the object. Lesson
one complete. HAPPY NEW YEAR
Eric
2:34 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Oh one more thing.... Never talk back to the one who gives you the final grade. Lesson two complete.
;-)
billy jones
3:44 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
I keep mine in a gun cabinet. I have it locked up just in case. But if someone was to breach my home.... May god be with them.
Elaine
8:35 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
better hope its not your kid coming home bombed with you in your magic rambo boxers lol
JOHNNY Done it
12:14 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
YOU mean your out house Billy just fling poo at them
Ashamed
3:55 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Captain Ed, you call others morons but you have your information factually wrong as well. Ammonium nitrate, used in Oklahoma City bombing, is regulated to 25 lbs per purchase and tracked, mcveigh had 4000 lbs. I do agree that you can't blame everything on devices sick people use, you just can prevent mass amounts of killing and injuries using common sense. I have not read or heard of an article in a long time where someone prevented a crime because of a gun. I have heard of hundreds of accidentally or deliberate shootings causing injury or death. Common sense should prevail when it comes to guns, I for one would feel less safe with a gun in my home.
Nj Ghost
5:06 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
@ Ashamed.."I have not read or heard of an article in a long time where someone prevented a crime because of a gun" You say. May i suggest that you stop reading the amonium nitrate futures report go read the Armed citizens blog at Americanfifleman.org There you will find copious amounts of first hand accounts where a gun was used for the prevention of crimes all accross the united States each and every year...All documented with dates names and news papers that they were printed in. Studues indicate that firearms are used more than 2 million times a year for personal protection,and that the presence of a firearm, without a shot bieng fired, prevents prevents crime in many istances.shooting can only be justified where crime constitutes an immediate imment threat t o life limb and in some cases proprty.
Again, "The armed citizens blog" at www.americanrifleman.org.....You may learn something like you're not smart enough to know that you don't know everything. happy New year
ER
2:23 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Ashamed wrote: "I have not read or heard of an article in a long time where someone prevented a crime because of a gun."
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/Naked-Man-Who-Was-Choking-Dog-Shot-by-Homeowner-in-Miami-Police-185411232.html?dr
billy jones
4:20 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Well then you should be Ashamed of yourself.
Captain Ed
4:32 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Ashamed, you have not read about guns preventing crimes cuz the liberal media usually only reports the bad stuff with guns. Or at least what they can make look bad towards gun owners.
There are literally hundreds and hundreds of cases of it happening. It happens daily across the US. ( I can site you quite a few if needed).
Not to mention the crimes that never took place or were prevented. Just think of cops carrying guns. People dont commit crimes around them. That would be stupid. As far as the nitrate being sold in small quantities, you dont just need nitrate to make bombs. You can use other stuff too.
And again, its not outlawed its only regulated in large quantities. NOT outlawed. Which was my point.
I thought he used fuel not nitrate. But same point.
And if u feel LESS safe with a gun then DONT buy one.
Just PLEASE dont try and prevent your neighbor from buying one. Just god forbid you are screaming for help from an intruder in the middle if the night you will surely be preying that he comes running to help you WITH his gun.
Just remember the life he saved MAY be YOUR own!
FDR
4:33 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
You can't stop something from happening, stop anyone from doing something, or stop someone from buying anything that could be considered dangerous or able to cause harm to other people. Somehow they will get their hands on what ever they want.
David Sexton
5:35 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
I move for a full internal investigation into these heinous allegations
billy jones
5:39 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
This is an outrage if found to be true. Conflict of interest is never a good thing.
WMS826
5:41 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
If you tell me the persons name and what town he lives most of us will be able to tell what happened.
Mental health is a big issue but crime is on the increase since the cops shut down about ten years ago. You were so concerned about profiling 14 percent of the population that you caused the police to stop doing any interdiction of drugs and guns.
They are flowing into the area since the cops have no power and have been bullied into the corner by the threat of arrest and persecution by the goverment.
medeelee
5:49 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
So......back to the original ?????....When did the shooting occur?
Craig
5:53 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
The problem is that the cops now a days are just a bunch of little momma boys who are afraid of getting down and dirty. The punks that are around now that the cops are soft and can get away with anything...
billy jones
6:12 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Why should the cops get down and dirty. There making 100k a year. It's a lot easier catching shoplifters than fighting real crime.
frank rizzo
6:25 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
thanks to the brilliant thinking of those like bluebeam, capt ed and marynary who think there wouldnt be any mall shootings if only all shoppers carried ar 15's the undertaking business will be booming. hey maybe they,ll give a discount on kid sized coffins. after all they only have to use half the material to build one. no doubt the people involved with this shooting in lakewood are card carrying nra.
Nj Ghost
7:54 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Seriously doubt they are card carring NRA ..You really haven't any idea what you are talking about now do you? You get your information from left wing rags ie Ny Times and left wing TV such as MSNBC...you truly are a one sided single faceted simpleton..I really feel sorry for you. You think all guns are "15's" as you call them to pretend that you are hip and know what you are talking about but you really don't. you should be ashamed of yourself and I'm sure you are. Admit it.
Mary Chase
8:40 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Yeah, Frank, that's who's in Lakewood, NRA members!! LOL!!!
A Polymath
12:50 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
The last mall shooting in California ended when a citizen with a legal handgun approached the AR wielding nutjob. Not a cop or security guard. When he faced an armed threat,the loony turned his gun on himself and terminated the incident. Only 2 innocents were hit. If not for the armed citizen who selflessly intervened, that could have been very much worse.
Mark Wendell
6:25 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
I'm sure Nacy Lanza's guns were bought based on the "protect my family myth" instead they destroyed 27 other families.
Michele Dimeo
7:35 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
or she just bought them as a collection and for sport, which is her right to do. I'm sure when she gave birth to her son she wasn't looking at him and thinking, one day you will grow up and kill 27 innocent people. its unstable people that kill, whether it be guns, bombs, fires, etc.
Nj Ghost
7:59 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Mark, why aren't you placing any blame at all on the idiots who didn't instatutionalize this mental retard when they saw what was coming...Are they at all responsible in your eyes or is it ok to allow these people to roam the streets and do what they see fit with either a gun , knife or a can of gasoline. take hold of yourself i think you are taking leave of your senses.
Mark Wendell
8:31 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
@njgoast, number one I never said a word about mentally ill, see I use the right word, people running around but you make a good point, the outdated constitution needs to be updated so these people can be forced to treatment, hospitals, etc. That includes right wing wacks.
Laura
10:11 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Those who are quoted in articles and knew Lanza said she believed the financial system in this country was going to collapse. You don't need all the weapons Lanza had, unless, you wanted one in every room just to be sure.
Laura
10:15 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Unfortunately, Mr. Wendell,
Is it not against an individuals rights to be locked up against their will if they are, at the time, deemed not a threat to themselves or anyone else? It's only after the fact that everyone can then agree that the individual was mentally ill and dangerous.
I do agree with you about right wing wacks.
frank rizzo
6:29 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
nothing more bs than " people kill people not guns" the fact is that people with guns kill people ( usually they also have guns) . 20 kids dead and you nitwits still want bigger and faster assault rifles. wake up already
Nj Ghost
8:05 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Frank, i hate to break this to you but guns don't make people want to kill. No one said they want bigger and faster guns . Who said that? What is said is don't step on my rights because some idiot moron was passed over for instatutionalization by some mentally crippled lawmaker who thout it would be cruel and inhuman. would you rather have these people walking the streets and doing as they please? Yea, I guess that would be good huh? Taking guns away from honest citizens is not th answer it's what the Libs want you to think is the answer...Banning guns will be as good as banning drugs.....ever hear of Chicago? Total ban on guns...One of the murder capitals of the world....Of the world
frank rizzo
6:34 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
good thing we have those like bluebeam and captain ed who are so highly trained that they could use an ar 15 in a panicked crowd and manage to hit the shooter dead center in the back of the head with a rifle that fires 6 rounds a second. i mean with guys like them i,m sure no bystanders will get hit. cops in new york city shot 9 people trying to take down a lone shooter outside the empire st building but we all know they didnt go thru the same training bluebeam and capt ed did.
Nj Ghost
8:30 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Actually it was 7 innocent bystanders and the reason nyc cops couldn't hit the water if they were in a boat is becase the Liberal butt head mayor thought it might be safer is the cops glocks have what is called a nyc trigger...Know what that means? it means it takes 12 pounds pressure to pull it thhrowing off the aim and making the gun inaccurate even at short distances.....Nice thinking bloomy you lib idiot
Elaine
8:56 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
wonder if Michele DIM eo kids were shot would she feel the same way
Michele Dimeo
9:17 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Elaine- you have been disrespecting people all night. I thought it was cute how you spelled out my last name. By the way very childish. Of course I would be heart broken, I even cried when i saw the news and discussed what happened with my children. Not every responsible gun owner is callous as you are acting right now. I had an uncle murdered by an ill gotten gun, but it doesn't change that I respect the amendment and the laws of gun ownership. Just watch your tongue and don't be so hurtful and disrespectful to people.
BRICKRAW
6:48 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Frank: 1) I am glad everyone does not have your retarded logic. 2) You need to do much more research. Much more.
BRICKRAW
6:49 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
The right to bear arms is also meant to keep a well regulated militia to protect the people from the GOVERNMENT. I am not afraid of somebody coming into my house. That would be easy to take care of. I am worried about the expansion of the government to the point where they employ the local police. You people can't let the govt. brainwash you into literally handing your weapons over. This drives me crazy. Half of the US want to give up the 2nd amendment. Lets wait 10 years until this is the USSA.
Kim E
7:11 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
PB , your are right about the second amendment and why it's there, To protect us from the government! But I fear it's to late.....
BRICKRAW
6:53 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Do you folks know what has happened in the past to counties that banned or regulated the arms of their citizens??? LOOK IT UP!!!
You folks need to wake the f..k up. Since 9/11 we are at WAR. Yes right now. WW3. The "War on Terror". We are in a fight against terrorism and there is no end. Since 9/11 we have lost more freedoms than out entire history. If you folks have time to watch Zeitgeist. It's just a peek of what we are in for. Www.zeitgeist.com. Maybe it will open your eyes.
frank rizzo
7:02 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
yeah another great thought given to us by " pb" unless that stands for peanut butter it means that you dont even have the stones to put your actual name to your " the govt will come in our back windows if we dont have assault rifles . peanut brain much be what your moniker means so i,ll go slow for you. the second ammendment was written 200 yrs ago when they were using flintlocks. at the time this country was just forming and england might have tried to take over again (see war of 1812 to learn more) so it was declared people could form their own militia to protect their homes from a hostile govt . the 2nd ammendment needs a little updating because if you havent noticed your assault rifle wont do squat when it comes to all those drones, tanks, f 16s and thousands of troops this govt has. maybe youre worried about canada invading us. nice touch on the " retarded" comment why not insult the families of those who are living with autistic children. the only time you took your foot out of your mouth was to change feet.time to loosen up that tin foil hat of yours a bit.
Mark Wendell
7:11 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Frank you are right. The second amnt was for 1776 and the need for a so called well regulated militia is long gone. Technology has advanced far from what the forefathers could have ever imagined.
BRICKRAW
7:03 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
You people are suddenly so concerned with guns and the value of human life...
Let me ask you this... Obamas drone program has killed 3x as many innocent women and children. Does that upset you?? Do you want to cut govt. spending and end the drone program?? Of course not. It's not the same to you. It's not at your back door so you can still sleep at night.
I am as white and as American as it gets. I do not like the direction this country let alone the world is going. At least I try to do something about it. Do you?
Do you recycle? Eat organic? Support small businesses? Tell other people you don't like what's going on? Tell your doctor you do not need the drugs he is handing you? Adopt a pet or plant a tree? Let the big live instead of squashing it? Write letter to you elected officials? Give food or cloths directly to a family in need?
Gene
8:44 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
You people? Are you really Ann Romney?
BRICKRAW
7:33 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Hey Frank Rizzo (I hope that's not your real name...)
What do you do with all that aggression? Things not well at home? Don't take it out on the family... Its not their fault your life didn't turn out the way you wanted it to. What do you suggest we do tough guy? I would love to hear it. Do you like the way things are going in this country? Do you own a gun? You seem to have some sort of an education. Your very ostentatious.
Gene
7:53 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Slow down PB. Your making everyone dizzy by spewing out empty headed thoughts.
.
7:21 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
I can't believe so many comments about such a "nothing" story. No facts, or information, like most of the stories lately. So many news stories are completely missed on here lately. The Patch is going quickly down the tubes.
frank rizzo
7:23 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
here we go. it was only a matter of time before pb blames gun deaths on obama as well as the man in the moon. everything gets blamed for gun deaths except guns. makes as much sense as thinking the govt is coming to take you away. bluebeam laughs at people who expect the govt to help them. i guess bluebeam figures all the people helped by fema and the govt must be saps.
frank rizzo
7:25 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
pb according to those like you and sexton we cant give blankets directly to people. as soon as you see strangers at your door with a van or truck you probably figure theyre there to take your possessions away so you shoot them.
billy jones
7:33 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
P B Mr. Rizzo is what they call a troll. He gets on here to get a rise out of people. I suggest flagging him or just simply ignore him. The way he sounds he's probably some young kid high on grass that doesn't even have the right to vote in this country.
JOHNNY Done it
12:16 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Your the problem Billy Bob you are mentally unstable
frank rizzo
7:28 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
by the way the obama drones have taken out more of the top terrorists than any other president including anwar alawki who is the reason people all over the world walk thru airports carrying their shoes in their hands. this is the typical nra thinking stop the drones so we get to shoot the terrorists ourselves once they get to our towns and cities. makes sense
Nj Ghost
8:25 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
How many innocents were taken out by the droans????
David Sexton
11:56 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Are you the frank rizzo from the jerky boys or the politician?
BRICKRAW
7:33 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Frank you are so quick to shoot everyone's post down. I am still waiting to hear your full view. Nobody is afraid the government is "coming to get them". Also, it is a FACT that Obamas drone program has killed many innocent people. I guess you were to thick to digest that. I'm not attacking your homie. I'm just stating a fact about one of his many bullsh..t programs.
BRICKRAW
7:34 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Lol Dave. I thought the same thing..
clamdigger
7:37 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
every citizen has the right to keep and bear arms. someone got shot, oh well. take that guy and lock him up case closed. if the guys didn't have a gun, he would have used a knife. if someone wants to hurt you they will whether it's a gun or not. remember the mafia hit decades ago, they clubbed the guy to death w/ golf clubs right on a sidewalk. it's a shame that people want to demonize the tool of the crime instead of the person committing the crime, that's the real threat in society.
what this country needs is more people taught about guns and gun safety, not running and trying to take away everything.
Gene
7:57 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
What? Teach people like Lanza's late mom was taught. If the guns weren't there we may have had 20 more people alive. What a waste of life for the sake of scared people.
BRICKRAW
7:37 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Frank do you know how many bad people were stopped with guns and ammo???!!!! More than drones!!! You just went against EVERY point you are trying to make agains guns... Nice debating with you. Goodnight.
Seriously. Www.zeitgeist.com. You folks have to watch it.
Lakewood
7:44 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Lakewood is off to a good start.
frank rizzo
7:48 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
heres a few ideas there peanut butter the bills currently being proposed are " the stop online ammunition act" which would only give authorized dealers the option of buying ammunition online. the movie shooter ordered thousands of rounds online with simply a credit card . " the ban all large capacity feeding devices act" which would prevent people like the movie shooter who only needed a credit card to buy online the 100 round drum he shot 70 people with. " the keep kids safe act" which prohibits the ownership of guns by those who committed sex crimes against children. "the closing gun show loophole act" which would prevent just anyone from selling weapons to anyone most times without even asking for an ID . 40% of legally purchased guns are doing without any background check mostly at these shows . " the preventing gun violence act" which makes it a felony for anyone to own a gun if they were convicted of violent acts as juveniles. but to pb here all this means is uncle sam coming thru his back window to take his guns away. as for life here at home its great . thanks for asking.
Nj Ghost
8:17 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Frank, Get your facts straight....You can't legally but a gun at a gunshow without a nics check...It's an outright lie for you to say 40% of guns are doing without a bachground check....site you source for that information...have you ever been to a gun show? do you own a gun? Have you ever secured a permit to own a gun? I dare you to describe and "Assault weapon" I dare you...do you even know what caliber is most popular? Do you know the difference between a .223 and .556/mm? since your the expert who knows that I should not have a gun I'm waiting to be enlightend by your expertise....waiting.....waiting
Michele Dimeo
8:36 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Nj ghost, I know the answer to that question it's the bullet size. Lol
brian dimeo
8:37 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Frank you have been running off at the mouth for some time now, but i guess i should give you a little credit you finally made one good point. I closing of the gun show and any private sale that doesn't require a background check needs to happen as well as any person convicted of a violent crime could lose the right to own a gun. Those I can agree with but what id the difference if i walk into a gun shop with my credit card and buy ammo as apposed to ordering it online. what do you think the gun shop owner isn't going to sell it to me. I'm all for reasonable gun control that will help to solve a problem but all of the " feel good gun legislation" that the government want to pass is not going to get guns out of criminals hands. the proof is easy to find you haven't been able to own an AK47 in most state since God knows when but if you take a trip down to the Camden evidence lockup I can assure you that you can fine atleast one there. Try to wrap your head around this if someone is looking to break the law with a gun they really don't care if it legal to have it.
brian dimeo
8:52 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Nj Ghost sorry but you are kinda wrong and I'm a believer in my right so I do know the law. In NJ it is legal to complete a person to person gun sale " of a long gun only" with out a background check this is how most of the people selling guns at a gun show get around a back ground check. a hand gun you still need a permit but for a rifle or shotgun its just a copy of your firearms id, a piece of paper with both the buyer and the sellers signature and you are on your way. doesn't even have to involve the police or the state. And as a responsible gun owner this does need to change.
Nj Ghost
7:50 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Brian, you are correct..I was refering to hand guns ( I'm into hand guns much more than rifles or carbines) and neglected to even think of a long gun....Thanks .......Jersey is sorely in need of updates in so many ways some good some bad.
frank rizzo
7:52 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
clam digger apparently you have too much mercury in your system because the right to bear arms was written 200 yrs before the assault rifle was invented.sexton i,m frank rizzo from south jersey . any questions feel free you seem to have a firm grasp on the surreal. oh and pb how many innocent people have died in both bush wars ? remember bush? he was the nitwit who went to war based on a lie.
clamdigger
8:02 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
the Declaration of Independence was written 236 years ago should we just throw that out too? It doesn't matter when it was written, it's a matter of keeping to the beliefs this country was founded upon.
Elaine
9:02 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Frank
perhaps you could tell njGhost were to find on you tube the video of the gun shows that sell to anyone
I guess Adam Lanza missed the backround check when he stole his moms responsible locked up guns
funny these gun nuts carry on about the second amendment but dont have a problem with the assault weapons ban expiring under President Gump
Nj Ghost
10:01 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Elaine, Why do you have to ask someone else to do your dirty work? Suppose you tell me whare to find it? I'd really like to see it and then i won't have to call so many of you LIBS liars..I really hate that..Not calling you a liar but having you lie....so childish . Do you really think you have the power to take away the second amendment rights? Do you know what it takes?...I'll ask you the same question I asked Frank rizzo...( named after the dead philadelphia mayor) ( talk about not using a real name) Please describe to me an assault rifle...what is the definition?? Because if you don't know then shut your fat mouth....if you do know then you might be smart enough to know there isn't any legal definition....
barbara
7:53 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
still waiting to hear the plot of this story and what happened....
billy jones
7:56 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Frank I think we all feel dumber after reading your nonsense. Keep up the good work troll. Oh and say hello to the jerky boys for me.lol
clamdigger
8:12 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Frank Rizzo Jerkey Boys;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygv0bUw93Tg
one's a tough guy over the phone, the other on a computer, must be something w/ the name.
frank rizzo
7:57 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
yes billy jones the typical teabagger. say something that varies from his demented views and he tells people to silence you. yes take away people's first ammendment right on what they think of the 2nd ammendment because to those like billy jones who stands in the walmart parking lot in a ben franklin costume holding up a sign that says " keep your gubmint hands off my medicare" the constitution was written for him and him only if you try to use your own constitional right to call him a nut.good thing walmarts dont let these teabaggers stand in parking lots yelling anymore. those like billy here were scaring the kids.
Mark Wendell
8:20 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Yup, they all yell second admnt and then flame others with bile and then step on their 1st admnt rights. Funny how the right wing love it or leave it set feel they have to protect themselves from the country they love. Since when would a right winger complain about middle eastern people getting killed by a drone, a program started by who,Obama? No they were flying long before him. They just use what they can to try to fit their logic but just sound like baffons.
JOHNNY Done it
12:34 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Frank Billie is some mentally unstable child that is suffering from use of illegal substances , seems to like making dumb comments to get peoples goat up.. He doesnt bother me.... Trying to figure out what planet he just visited..
frank rizzo
7:58 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
whats the matter sexton you got something against those "eye talians"?
Elaine
9:04 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Frank
do you think the rubes know that women were not allowed to vote?
David Sexton
8:22 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
I was just curious frank..No need to call me out
Nj Ghost
8:33 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
I'd love to stay on here and argue, really , it's fun....but i have to go on line and order some more ammo.......target practice ya know......ta ta
Mark Wendell
9:07 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Typical response from the right wing set
Nj Ghost
10:08 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Mark...How do you know i'm right wing?? Because i like guns? No lefties have guns?? Moron
Mark Wendell
10:43 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
From the way you talk or would I say rant. Anyone with a different opinion you call an idiot or a moron because facts don't confront the right.
Nj Ghost
9:10 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Mark, please stop being a weenie...Be nice when the nurse comes in to change your diapers.
Mark Wendell
9:09 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Yup folks that's all they got when presented with facts, they call you moron, idiot, weenie, an old diaper wearing man, drug user and a drunk. They compare you with nazi's and call you a socialist after collecting their medicare, driving on the roads, over the bridges and using the libraries that socialism brings them. Ok maybe not the libraries. Education to the right is a bad thing. Just look at the south. But the worst is that they show up after some people put their own anti gun feelings down and they rip them up for doing so making fun of their screen names and trying to figure out when they themselves use fake names.
David Sexton
8:44 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Are you sure nj ghost?If you leave now you might miss more of franks fascinating comments..The guy truly has a powerful mind
Michele Dimeo
9:11 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Elaine- you have been disrespecting people all night. I did see your post before it got flagged I'm assuming. I thought it was cute how you spelled out my last name. By the way very childish. Of course I would be heart broken, I even cried when i saw the news and discussed what happened with my children. Not every responsible gun owner is callous as you are acting right now. Just watch your tongue and don't be so hurtful and disrespectful to people.
barbara
9:19 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
After reading these comments, I want to live on the moon!
Elaine
9:22 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
As passed by the Congress:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
Funny how you and the idiot want to wave your second amendment rights but want to take away my 1st amendment rights to show you others how stupid you are
now if you read the second amendment I think its pretty clear since we didnt have a standing military ppl were given the rignt to form one
not for every rambo
oh and by the way Lanza was not a "mental retard" but you are ignorance is showing
now back to my first amendment right feel free not to read my post
callous? no its called reality
John
10:01 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Elaine you are correct the 1st Amendment give you the right to spew whatever garbage you would like. Lucky for all of us with every post we get to see just what kind of dimwit you really are, I would say the same to about your children but God help us if you had the chance to reproduce we can only hope that you stupid gene dies with you one day. I find it funny how whack jobs like you want to preach about its your first amendment right to cry how we shouldn't have a 2nd amendment sorry but can't really have it both ways. All of the amendments were put in place for one reason or another at one point or another. But i guess that just something that retards like you cant wrap your pea sized brain around. So you sleep well tonight knowing that you can call 911 if the day ever comes that a criminal has entered your home and know that that the police will get there at some point to write the report and clean up the mess that was left behind that may very well include you. and myself and my family will sleep even better knowing that we too will call 911 if that day ever comes but it will be to clean up the mess of the criminal that chose the wrong house. Now you go on and keep showing everyone how inbred are retarded you really are!
Eggs-n-Toast
9:36 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
You know, Patch.... if you don't have enough information to type up a decent story with enough pertinent facts or details for it to make sense as a "news story", why not just skip it until you do have some facts?
I mean seriously - no name of the victim, ok, I'll go along with that, but was it a male or female victim? Did he/she work there or was /heshe a guest?
Was the shooter male or female? Did they know each other? Was the shooter caught? Being pursued? Any motive like attempted robbery, mugging, or argument leading up to this incident? Why bother with this story at all? Just filler, I suppose...
George Murphy
10:13 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
ET - Absolutely. I asked the same thing. I guess we must continue with business as usual: Protect the guilty.
frank rizzo
9:59 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
nj ghost ya gotta love this guy. lol i,m sorry i got it wrong by saying 9 people but you sure straightened me out with "only 7 bystanders were hit by cops because bloomberg who was republican most of his life is a lib mayor" . when you think does smoke actually start coming from the back of your head? . lol
Nj Ghost
10:06 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
No frank stop making believe you know what you are talking about...who the hell cares if he's a republican in name only republicand and dems are all morons unlike you i wouldn't give you a dime for either one....By the way did you ever get around to describing an assault rifle yet? you know nothing about guns or the many good people who own them but you still insist that you know all about them......you're a joke
frank rizzo
10:06 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
and nj toast this shooter in newtown wasnt out loose because some liberal lawmaker wouldnt put him away he was loose because his mom an nra member thought it was important to take junior who is having some social isolation issues down to the gun range with weapons you normally see in wars . yes ghost 20 kids are dead and youre yucking it up about doing the same exact thing the movie theatre shooter did buying ammo online. congrats you finally found your true elmer fudd mentality..
Nj Ghost
7:33 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
You seem so obsessed. I'm suprised that someone of your alleged knowlege is so smitten with untruths...and yet you pretend to knw so much...Spoken like a real liberal idiot that wishes to take other peoples rights away....Maybe your ideas are the reason so many want to maintain those rights, who knows. But i'll say this about you, you do give idiots a bad name....
frank rizzo
10:11 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
clamdigger they were using blood letting as a medical practice at the time the declaration of indepedence was written. maybe we should bring that back too. you know taking about a pint of blood from someone is guaranteed to cure any disease.
clamdigger
5:54 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and Bill of Rights are there to ensure freedoms to the people that the founding fathers believed in,not take freedoms away.
Nj Ghost
10:27 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
actually the bill of rights was to limit the power of the govt
clamdigger
6:22 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Nj Ghost; Umm no.
The following text is a transcription of the first ten amendments to the Constitution in their original form. These amendments were ratified December 15, 1791, and form what is known as the "Bill of Rights."
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html
Mark Wendell
10:36 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
The 1994 ban was in fact called the Federal Assault Weapons Ban. It expired in 2004. The legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi automatic firearm models by name including the AR 15 the TEC 9 non select fire models of the AK47 and Uzi's. The assault weapon term was not only used in the title it was clearly defined in the body of the law.
Elaine
10:59 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Mark
you know the right wing rambo types dont like facts.
They have wet dreams about intruders and getting to their guns.
Their homes are in a town called denial.
These folks are usually inbred pineys aka red neck
Did you know you can carry in Fl Tx and Co to name a few and guess what? they still have violent crime
Mark Wendell
11:12 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Elaine, don't I know, I have family in SC, the most wacky state in all the land, and they will take a gun to an art museum. But you know you need protection in an art museum.
Nj Ghost
11:22 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
mark......You forgot the most important part and the part that is the lynchpin.....An assault rifle is a selective fire (either fully automatic or burst-capable)......already banned....non select fire weapons were and are circumvented by manufacturing them under another name which made them legal....done mainly with ak's they are simply semi automatic rifles no longer a sub machine gun or with sub machine gun capabilities.
Mark Wendell
11:43 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
WAIT A MIN.........nJGoast has said more than a few times that assault weapon was a media made up term but yet after I talk about the term used in a federal law he says I forgot something and goes on to explain what an assault weapon is even farther than I did above, unreal! And by the way I did not forget what I put above was all I needed there is in fact about two paragraphs after what I said about what makes an assault weapon in the law.
Nj Ghost
9:16 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
seems marky likes to stretch the truth a bit...maybe we should also ban booze
Mark Wendell
8:56 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
No you asked frank rizzo to give you the legal def of assault weapon, you said it was made up by the media. You said it had no legal meaning. You said those weapons did not exsist. Than I state the wording of the federal law showing the words in it you asked frank about and then you add to it by stating even more words used in the law to define the term assault weapon.
Elaine
10:39 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
JO hn Rambo come in rambo
other then in a wet dream you had could ypu provide an example of an intruder getting shot breaking into a home ?
are you related to penny?
Nj Ghost
11:31 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
here elaine....do some research and homework re: intruders...Sun Sentinel, miramer Fla. 10/2/12.....the oklahoman,10/20/12...Kenoshanews, Kenosha wi, 10/17/12....The morning journal, elyria, oh,10/20/12....just a few...want more????
George Murphy
10:28 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
John - Great post! I would like to see a bit more civility and less foul-mouth activity, which seems to pour forth from the other side of the backyard fence.
frank rizzo
10:42 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
yeah crazy ideas jersey toast like preventing nitwits who cant read or spell from owning an arsenal. i guess anyone who is very outraged over 6 yr olds being torn to pieces is obsessed according to you. hey why dont we all just do it your way and operate under the rest of the constitution the way it was in the 1700s? . i,m sure you would be thrilled bringing back slavery and not letting women vote. that was in the constitution at the same time the 2nd ammendment was written. good luck with all that. pb asks to name any country that removed guns from its citizens and what happened . here you go pb scotland after the 1995 shooting that killed 15 schoolkids. guns were banned in that country and in 17 yrs they havent had one homicide by gun. britain did the same thing with 40 deaths a year. in america 10,000 people a year die from bullets and those numbers really add up quickly when using toys like your ar 15. yes nj ghost and pb your way is working out so much better.
Mary Chase
3:50 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
I can't say if your stats are true or not, but assuming they are, Chicago is way up on the murder scale, and they have a total gun ban. Banning guns will leave them in the hands of only police and criminals and military. If the entire country bans guns, then we will still have them courtesy of the black market, think Columbian drug trade, to name just one. A ban simply will not cure this ill - we are not Scotland or Britain. We need a more realistic solution. (not that I have it - but there is no reason to invoke a so-called solution that cannot possibly work)
Elaine
10:43 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
As passed by the Congress:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
John you are an inbred piney right?
Nj Ghost
11:25 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
seems as if you had some relatives that may have been a little to close yourself there elaine......Know what I mean? heh heh
Spooner
12:01 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Actually the original version written before the Declaration of Independence saids... That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided, as dangerous to liberty; and that, in all cases, the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.
Mark Wendell
8:48 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
@Spooner, So your saying we had a constitution BEFORE we declared our
freedom and then fought a revolution to gain that independence?
Dee M Lee
10:54 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Dumb question: anymore info on that shooting in lakewood? Anyone arrested?? I am at the correct spot.......right?
Mark Wendell
11:05 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Dee M Lee, you can try Lakewood's version of Patch called Lakewood scoop.
George Murphy
10:16 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Yes you are Dee! It's like the game of Telephone, which elementary school-aged children play on rainy days: It starts out one way and, well, you know how it ends up?
frank rizzo
11:08 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
yeah nj ghost i,m a joke and meanwhile your talking about " obama's droans" clearly the ability to red, comprehend or spell wasnt involved in your gun ownership. brian dimeo as far as me running my mouth thats why its america and not some country that beheads you for doing so. you are correct on the gun show loopholes and there is a completely unregulated secondary market of people buying weapons person to person where there are no checks. i went to the wawa last night and while getting gas i observed two pick up trucks in the parking lot. the one guy got out and had something long in a camoflauge type of bag. they were looking at whatever was inside that bag with a flashlight for a while then exchanged some cash and drove off their seperate ways. i,m guessing its not how the usual drug transaction goes down in full view but guessing from the elmer fudd type of hunting bag it was in i,m willing to bet it fired bullets. and no nj ghost i dont know if they were .223 or 556mm . i guess the caliber really wont matter all that much to the kid or store worker that happens to have the bullets lodged in their chests. brian dimeo the difference between buying ammon in a store as opposed to online is that online no one is seeing the guy who has been awake on meth for 5 days and is now mad at the world or the criminal cops may have issued wanted flyers for. my guess is gun stores dont even bother looking at wanted posters. after all all cash is green right? .
Nj Ghost
11:16 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
well if you were shooting off your fat mouth about being wrong about the gun show loopholes and not knowing what an assault rifle was and not knowwing the difference between a .223 and a 556/mm what else are you wrong about other then having a fat mouth.....go to bed lib, you have out stayed your usefulness...and stop using the name of a dead philadelphia mayor...it's disgusting and phony
JOHNNY Done it
12:30 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
AS spoken above the loop holes we can only blame the law makers & 1 step back the people that vote them in.. We should be able to bear arms but, those weapons need to be restricted .If you have a legal permit .If you go to the range & practice ..The professionally trained need 3 bullets More than likely the criminal is not a good shot & will need to get close or just a lucky shot. I am sure the guy in the hotel shooting didnt use a legal weapon ,( The legal weapon is the registered owner , not the son ,neighbor , other family ) It needs to be properly secured..
frank rizzo
1:24 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
nj ghost a bozo using a nonsensical name calling my birth name phony. amazing. imagine that the philly mayor might have had the same name as many other people. imagine how a guy named john smith feels? . funny try looking in a phone book and imagine the shock you will feel when you discover there were other frank rizzos out there besides a dead mayor. nj toast dont confuse your disgust with your ignorance they are already hand in hand. so far the only time you,ve taken your foot out of your mouth is to change feet. as for lakwood no details yet on what happened if the guy was a legal gun owner or if he was even black or white but that didnt slow down those like barbara and johnny dumb it from bringing out the racial comments. well done.
frank rizzo
1:46 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
nj toast you wanted some sources well heres a few. usa today reports that states with high crimes see more guns stolen. the dept of justice website says that 80% of gun thefts are from cars or homes. the atf website has reported that every year 600,000 guns are stolen from homes and go directly into the hands of criminals . john hopkins university reports the same thing adding that 30,000 guns are also stolen from dealers every year. odds are nj ghost and johnny done it are going to be shot by a gun some other gun nut owned legally. good luck with all of that and thanks for allowing the criminals to put our citizens in danger because you cant find a better hobby.
Nj Ghost
8:35 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Phony mayor of Philadelphia (deceased) Stop relying on the statistics of a corrupt justice dept...They themselves are felons and not to be trusted (fast and furious) Usa today who in their editorial page last summer stated that they will support the confiscation of guns....They consider a car theft with a legal gun in it as a gun theft AND car theft.... Think about it ,a gun stolen from a home is taken by a thief ...of course it goes directly into the hands of a criminal the thief is the criminal...DUH...Your statement as for my odds of being shot by a gun owner is no more accurate as one day you will be cut by a knife or burned on a stove or drown in a swimming pool....Life has its dangers...learn to live a little....one more thought that may have been brought to your attention from time to time...Ban guns and i guess all the criminals will simply turn theirs in right?..I often wonder what the rape reduction would be in this country if only women had the right to carry. Dizzy Rizzy, maybe it's time you started thinking about the millions of aborted babies and not for the safety of the idiots who have then ripped limb from limb from their wombs in the name of rights all because you and misguided lying old drooling idiots such as yourself can't find a better cause to usurp the rights of others.....How many unborn babies have you approved to be aborted in your family? Are you comfortable with that? Don't knock my right to have a gun until your problem is addressed hypocrite.
Mark Wendell
1:46 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
The Lakewood Scoop has a little more info. The LPD was looking for shell caseings outside the Best Western after a new years party. Police are looking for a black male. They also reported an arrest in the tent city stabbing.
WMS826
7:56 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Blacks are 14 percent of the population, yet how many percent of violent offender and victims.
frank rizzo
1:48 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
meanwhile dopes like nj ghost are arguing over the caliber size of bullets that are killing kids. whatta guy !
frank rizzo
1:52 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
my apologies johnny done it i had misread your comments directed at internet troll billy jones . i mistakenly thought they were directed at me. unlike nj ghost and clamdigger i own up to it if i,m wrong.
Saucy Wally
2:17 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
We all know what this was over...drugs and or some type of illegal activity
George Murphy
10:36 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Exactly, Wally! The American Revolving Door Justice System. You see, if they would take this person out to the public square and give him/her thirty lashes minus one - in public view - then we would begin to heal our land. But, crime is a big business that employs millions upon millions of folks from rent-a-cops right on up to Eric Holder. And who pays for it? (Including flat-screen TVs in some correctional facilities)
Tom Cular
3:55 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
I like the story about the young woman from Houston, TX that had her purse snatched while waiting for a bus. The court asked why she fired 6 shots at the assailant, her response was that when she squeezed the trigger for number 7, it only went CLICK. She was back at work the next day :-)
Tom Cular
3:59 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
BTW, she got him !!!
John B Taxpayer
4:50 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Maybe you need to heare what Happened to this Doctor.... not ethe Smug look on Chucky Shumer (Concealed Carry Permit Holder in NYC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis&feature=youtu.be
Dr. Suzanna Gratia Hupp explains meaning of 2nd Amendment!
billy jones
7:33 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
I really hope people don't take Frank Rizzos comments seriously. He is called an internet troll. Someone whom goes on these sites to get a rise out of people. If you notice he will direct his comments at people attacking them singling them out. I'm sure he has childhood issues so let him be. Ignore him, flag him, or sometimes even read what he has to say. I'm sure you will see how dumb some people really are.
Michael Hendrickson
7:33 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
I love reading comments from narcissistic people like frank rizzo..Please keep posting frank your hilarious
Opinionated
7:18 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
This video is dedicated to the "geniuses" who think that guns are the ONLY problem we have. We had such "geniuses" a hundred years ago who got the country to ban alcohol. All you fools are doing is helping to make criminal groups stronger. Then it was the mob. Today it would be "gang bangers". I know your tactics. When you ban the guns, nothing will change then you'll ban knives, etc. When that doesn't work, you'll have forced institutionalization of the mentally ill, followed by forced medication, electro-shock, lobotomies, and then the "final solution". As Rahm Emanuel and Adolph Hitler believed, "never let a good crisis go to waste". Socialist, National Socialist (nazi), what's the difference? A fully thought multi phase plan is what you need. A one note song does nothing but irritate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxRlpRcorEU
Nj Ghost
8:13 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Nice video...Very staged....but informative of the ignorance of the gun grabbers....all were staged to show the use of guns in an agressive light never once stopping a crime and also did you notice how almost all guns were spewing flames from the barrel? Blanks. Also did you notice how no guns had a recoil? (Kick)....Kinda silly when you consider all those so called celebrities looked so serious when in fact many have a carry permit or armed body guards....Thanks, as I said it was informative but not in the way they intended it to be.
Penny Lane
9:56 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
can you give us your opinion on Agenda 21
Opinionated
9:56 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Hey, it's about Hollywood where everything is staged. Those who want new gun laws to replace the ones that are ignored by criminals now won't realize the technical flaws because of their lack of knowledge or should I say ignorance. But of course that won't make any difference due to their narrow mindedness. They say what they say and the facts are irrelevant.
Joe M
7:25 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
It was probably some tramp wife cheating on her husband with some dirtbag.
Nj Ghost
8:38 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
....or some dirtbag husband cheating on his wife with a tramp.
Opinionated
11:39 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
To Penny Lane, would you trust the UN for anything? They trusted them in Africa and look at what happened. See: http://www.wnd.com/2004/12/28177/
Penny Lane
9:49 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
I sure dont trust the republicon led house
frank rizzo
11:52 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
yes billy jones i actually had the nerve to reply to comments directed at me so very narcissistic of me . billy here again another teabagger who asks people flag me so he can take away the first ammendment of those using free speech to talk about the 2nd ammendment. billy shouldnt you be in your davy crokett costume and yelling at people in the walmart parking lot that uncle sam is coming to take your guns away (even though no gun regulations have been put in place since 94 when clinton banned assault rifles . ) by the way click on billy jones' (i,m sure thats his real name . lol ) name here to see what a real internet troll does all day. he is on every patch thread from here to north jersey calling people idiots etc. you know well thought out replies . michael hendrickson nice of you to give us your two cents. its a refreshing break from your usual defending of drunk drivers who have crashed into lawns or 21 yr olds dealing heroin out of the lacey inn. you know your friends.
frank rizzo
11:54 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
because boys and girls for billy jones here the constitution was written for him and him only. try and tell him anything different and he will demand your first ammendment right be taken away.
John Mendalovitz
1:18 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Frank that was Michael Hendrickson that said you are narcissistic not Mr.jones..You seem very upset at anyone especially Mr jones that doesn't agree with your opinion..If these forums are making you that upset why come on here and put yourself through it..I'm not trying to agitate you anymore then you already are I'm just saying maybe these open forums just aren't for you.
Michael Hendrickson
7:33 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Another thread ruined by Mr Frank Rizzo because of his personal attacks on people that don't agree with him..And John he is a very angry person that likes to write lol after everything he writes.lol He also likes to look up past posts of people and use them against you..Thanks again Mr.Narcissist for making this tread all about you lol..I suggest this thread be closed now
Tina
4:47 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
For everyone wondering...updated article on this shooting:
http://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2013/01/person-shot-at-new-years-party-on-route-70.html#more-70634
It seems it happened just after midnite, although it doesn't say it. The original article was written at 1 in the morning.
billy jones
7:33 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Ya I'm not sure why Rizzo gets that worked up. Maybe there is something else bothering him. If you need a shoulder to cry on Frank I'm here for you..lol
frank rizzo
5:53 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
i wouldnt call it upset. more of a disappoint actually with a system that allows little kids to be murdered while cheese eaters like hendrickson and billy jones here sit at home all day on the patch the hardest work they do is walking to the mailbox to grab the check that me as well as millions of hard working taxpayers pay for. am i upset at some troll who goes on every patch thread in a 25 town radius to call people idiots if they dont believe in his archie bunker theories? the kind of basement dweller who has to borrow mom's car to go pick up some smokes or like hendrickson who goes on the patch to defend a drunk who drove into someone's house and tried to flee the scene or a 21 yr old selling heroin out of the lacey inn? i would think if i would let bottom feeders like these clowns bother me then i would merely be reduced to their inbred thinking. spend all day and night on the patch billy. we can use your comments as a nite lite. lol
Bob Sweeney
6:07 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
I agree with Frank Rizzo 100% . He stated the gun bills now being proposed in congress something that affects every citizen and some living off the dole troll like Billy Jones tells people to silence him. That is the sickening thing about couch surfers like Michael Hendrickson and Billy Jones they do nothing all day while living off our taxes and then tell you to shut up if you have an opinion about that.Have fun pulling your taffy all day Jones we,ll be busy out there in the real world paying for it.
Nj Ghost
7:33 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Bob Sweeny alias frank rizzo....alias dead mayor of Philadelphia.....LOL......Now guess what you did in your little statement posted above that gave you away frank dizzy rizzy........fool
billy jones
6:39 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
How did u know I sit home all day and collect my check out of the mailbox. Are you watching me Frank..lol
frank rizzo
7:24 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
nj toast and billy bob i like most people on here dont know nor care who some mayor of philly you seem to be obsessed with is. usually when those like billy here are thinking 8 different people who realize he is a goober are all the same person and who are watching his house thats known as paranonia. the result of hitting that glass pipe all day while checking the windows and closet 5 times a minute. you two need to learn crack is wack. wait a minute billy i think theres someone just outside your house trying to see what honey boo boo episode you have on. better peek thru those curtains and check again. lol
Nj Ghost
7:33 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
LOL hey Mr. Mayor, Did you figure out yet what gave you away as " Bob Sweeny" ?? What a joke you are there slick...a real joke. Be nice to the nurse tonight when she wipes your chin and changes your diapers old man.
billy jones
7:33 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Oh man Frank you are the best.. It's great reading your stupid posts that mean nothing at all. Don't be so angry..... Life is good teabagger ..lol
Michael Hendrickson
7:33 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Lol frank you really got some anger issues..You know the medical community is doing wonderful things now for people with those kind of problems..You should look into it..I truly do hope that you find some type of peace..Good luck
Michael Hendrickson
9:59 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
And as far as walking to my mailbox to get my check that's not true..I get them direct deposited into my account.LOL
Patrick Sayjack
7:33 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
What's funny is the only guy that agrees with frank rizzo is bob sweeny who's account was just made today.Thats a good one frank or should I say bob
FDR
8:03 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
So many are doing the same thing! Take a deep breath, it could be anyone. I love it when those who are guessing are wrong. I am sure more agree with frank rizzo than you think even though you don't want others to think they do.
frank rizzo
10:43 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
say hello to vanna white for me pat. lets see i already have a letter "F" . how about i buy a "u" just for you bob or should i say billy etc etc?
Nj Ghost
7:33 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Bob sweeny...Now that's funny....
frank rizzo
10:47 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
check out the time stamps on these losers . all day and night long spent on the patch. i,m guessing honey boo boo must be in re runs. buy a clue. get a life.
Nj Ghost
7:33 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
good night loser....I mean mayor rizzo...I mean Bob sweeny...LOL snicker snort
jerseyswamps
2:17 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
What a f..'n waste. Nothing wrong with bringing passion into your arguments but most of these comments are nothing but insults and name calling. My time will be better spent watching an infomercial.
Michael Hendrickson
7:22 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Jerseyswamp You can thank mr rizzo and all his aliases that he uses just to get his point across..He has ruined multiple threads with his angry and insulting posts..Unfortunately he gives posters no choice but to defend themselves
FDR
8:00 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Geeez!!! Some of you need to look in your own backyard!!
CheerMom1
2:25 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013
Wow! 245 comments on an article that simply says someone was shot. It's amazing how much everyone can read into it.
BRICKRAW
6:23 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013
Crank Rizzo is fat.