Tim Lurie Withdrawing from Race for Point Beach Mayor
But voters using mail-in ballots may have already voted for him
Tim Lurie is no longer running for Point Beach mayor, but is instead supporting Republican mayoral candidate Stephen Reid, according to one of Lurie's running mates.
Lurie, Point Beach Borough Council president, notified Nick Mazzola, his Democratic running mate, on Wednesday night that he is no longer running because his engineering work as a partner at DW Smith Associates does not allow enough time for the work involved, Mazzola said on Thursday.
However, Lurie's name will still be on the ballot because it is beyond the Sept. 13 deadline for candidates to notify Ocean County officials with enough time for names to be removed from the ballot.
Had Lurie withdrawn by Sept. 13, the Democratic party would have had until Sept. 15 to get a replacement candidate on the ballot, said Ocean County Clerk Scott Colabella.
Moreover, there may have been local residents who already voted for Lurie with mail-in ballots, formerly referred to as absentee ballots.
Colabella said on Thursday afternoon that the county began mailing mail-in ballots to Point Beach residents who requested them on Sept. 23. Of the 207 Point Beach residents who requested mail-in ballots, 108 have been returned to the county Board of Elections, Colabella said.
There is no way to tell how many of the 108, or how many of the mail-in ballots that may be returned in coming days, include votes for Lurie because mail-ins are not opened until Election Day, Colabella said.
To request a mail-in ballot, registered voters have to fill out a form asking that the county mail absentee ballots to their homes. Then they complete the forms and mail them back to the county.
Voters who wish to use mail-in ballots have to make sure the ballots they mail arrive at the county Board of Election office by Nov. 1, which is this Tuesday, Colabella said.
If they cannot mail them so they arrive at the county by Nov. 1, they can visit the board office in person until 3 p.m. Nov. 7, the day before the general election, Colabella said.
Voters delivering their completed mail-in ballots in person (as opposed to mailing them back) have until 8 p.m. Nov. 8, which is the close of polls on election day, to deliver them to the county election board office, Colabella said.
Mazzola is running for one of two, three-year council seats. Democratic incumbent councilman Frank Rizzo, who has missed many recent meetings due to illness, is running for re-election.
Lurie did not respond to email and voice mail messages left by Patch.
Mazzola said that Lurie told him that his work with DW Smith, his engineering firm, precludes him from putting enough time and effort into a mayoral campaign.
"He owns the engineering firm," Mazzola said. "And during the past few weeks it's been a real burden for him."
Mazzola said he and Lurie are both supporting Reid for mayor, who is challenging Mayor Vincent Barrella.
Barrella is a registered Republican running as an Independent for the second consecutive year.
Mazzola said, "Although I'm sorry Tim Lurie's business responsibilities will prevent him from continuing in the mayoral race, I am pleased to support Stephen Reid for mayor.
"Steve is a man with extraordinary administrative abilities, but also those personal qualities that would make him an excellent mayor," Mazzola said.
Barrella said on Thursday afternoon that it is wrong for Lurie to withdraw from the race.
"For any candidate to engage in these kinds of shenanigans is just plain wrong," Barrella said. "For a sitting, elected official to do it is unconscionable. He has effectively denied voters the opportunity for true choice by waiting past the deadline for having his name come off the ballot."
Republicans Andy Cortes and William Mayer are running with Reid. Independents Phyllis Thomson and Bret Gordon are running with Barrella. Kitty Stillufsen is also running as an Independent, but not with Barrella and his slate.
Lurie is an engineer and partner at DW Smith Associates in Farmingdale and received his certified municipal engineer's certificate last September.
Any registered voters filling out mail-in ballots at county clerk's office can do so in a "privacy booth," Colabella said, and then deliver it to the county elections board, across the street from the county clerk's office.
Spooner
1:37 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
A twist in the equation. . .but what's new in Beach. . .this Party label back and forth has been going on for years. . .nothing like adding more fuel to the Board Walk fire? Reading most of the posts here: I have to wonder how much to they value their moral ideology(I'm Right). It's easy to use words. . .they don't cost any money?
Those who are in the know about civil litigation, know that comprise eventually resolves moral ideology; after at times. . . spending aeons of money. . .What concerns me; is the disconnect of writers here, to their personal pockets. . . like there's this nebulous; that's not view able, when it comes to the large outlays of money going to lawyers.
Charles Clark
11:36 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Spooner, Why are you so interested in our town? If you are not from here then why are you even getting involved?
monica walsh
5:25 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
I have never been more upset than reading that Tim Lurie has withdrawn in the mayoral race. He has made a mockery of the Democratic party (for which I served 12 years on Council) by running for mayor when he intendend to withdraw all along. More importantly, he showed how little he cares about the Beach voter by withdrawing his name after the ballots were printed and after absentee ballots have already been mailed, Clearly, by having him and his "running mates" endorse the Republicans, this was an orchestrated move on the behalf of both parties and a slap in the face to voters in this most important election. I'm proud of endorsing the Barrella, Thomson and Gordon team. And if Tim doesn't have the Tim to serve as Mayor then he doesn't have time to serve on Council and should resign. This is not a game. This is real life and it's a travesty Tim and his co-conspirators played with our vote.
pointman
7:37 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
Ms Walsh the good Democrat. Didnt you and that other backstabber Corbally run to Barrellas camp after the Democrats supported you for years? two phonies. What are you really upset about? was it the money spent on that nasty gram that showed up in the mailbox today? Is Joe B writing them for you ,is he quiet this campaign because hes in the Barrella / Tooker camp like he was in 07. Barrella and Bilotti what a team. Vote for a new Mayor Nov 8thl
Charles Clark
8:28 am on Friday, October 28, 2011
It is a real shame because some believed Tim was in the race because he cared about Point Beach. Now they know he was just getting led around by the nose from the BW and Reid camp. There seems to be a lot of orchestrated moves on all sides which is an embarrassment. I am sure Rizzo will be the next to drop out. Why did he rerun for council again, knowing how sick he is? He can't even show up at council meetings to serve the residents of this town. Just another ploy to place someone in after the race to form a new bloc. Point Beach wonders why nothing gets done, everyone is more interested in getting back at each other for something that they think was done to them. @Hilde, If Lurie has a personal or medical reason then how does he continue to have time to be on the council, but not Mayor? If anything the council position is more demanding then the Mayor's seat. It is crystal clear, what is being done and if anything I feel this moved turned many off and it will hurt the republican candidates.
randi
12:32 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
Monica:
Seems like YOU are the party animal! Maybe your attack on Tim was so nasty he quit. Since you are supporting Barrella how true are you being to the Democratic Party you think you have served so well ? A donkey is supporting an elephant. Only a jackass would vote for your candidates.
Charles Clark
7:40 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
randi, There seems to be a lot of Jackasses in town.
Mike Corbally
7:21 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
Both political "Party Clubs" should be embarrassed! You have both reached a new low.
sandinmytoes
10:12 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
No one could go as low as you did last year, Corbally. ABC ticket ring any bells for you? You're not seriously going to preach about party loyalty, are you? You've been...let's see... a Republican, then an Independent Republican, then a Democrat, and now a Barrella Independent. You're the one who should be embarrassed.
monica walsh
8:22 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
To Pointman, who doesn't want his identity revealed. No one writes anything for me, and the current "Democrats" are that in name only. I've proved my Democratic credentials and Bilotti worked so hard against me he sent a threatening Christmas card to me, just after my husband died, that forced the Chief of Police to order him away from my home. For whom are you fronting? Give us your name. The phony. I believe, is you.
Charles Clark
8:36 am on Friday, October 28, 2011
We got it, it seems every side has been backstabbing and all have been phonies.
Mike Corbally
8:33 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
Pointman you sound like your fingers got caught in the cookie jar. Tell us all the inside scoop. Your Municipal Chair didn't even put a sign out.
sandinmytoes
9:34 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
Better to not put out a sign than to cut a name off the bottom of one, like your Municipal Chairman did to Morrongiello last year. I guess you didn't have any problem with that, though. Looks to me like the Democrats have managed to put all of their trash members out to the curb. Good for them! I just hope that they remembered to put it in a can with a lid and their street address on it, or who knows if it'll get picked up.
Peter Pan
8:47 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
Sorry Tim, but you look like a puppet to the boardwalk on this one. Your meetings with the BW did not go unnoticed this summer and there were whispers of this dropout maneuver for months. The BW must have figured out that Reid had a better chance of winning without you in the picture and gave you your orders.
Sean Hennessy
9:11 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
To Monica Walsh,
I am very confused by your letter/nasty mailer that came out today attacking Tim Lurie personally. You spout out about how you support members of your party but then use the excuse to not support Tim why ? Because he moved to the Boro and had to resign in 2005 ? And you support Barrella, Thomson, Gordon why ? What has Barrella accomplished in 4 years ? What did Thomson accomplish on the BOE for the years she served ? Have either of them ever fought to keep taxes down in PPB ? And Bret Gordon, he didn't even live here in 2007 when Tim moved back from the Boro. You quoted your late father "don't trust anyone who switches" ? Didn't Barrella run as a Republican in 2007 and now he has "switched" to Independent in 2011 ? So in your words, Barrella can't be trusted ! Then on the back page of your pathetic mailer you and Barrella attack Tim's personal life and bring up his ex fiance, sounds like a Mickey Diaz letter to the editor. And in the record portion of the mailer you bring up Tim working on an engineering project years ago as conflict but you don't think councilwoman Tooker accepting campaign contributions from the BW and giving those contributions(Money) to Vinny Barrella last year is a conflict ? Lastly, Vinny Barrella did cut the specials budget because he and Corbally created this years budget and swore last year that the specials would get thier full amount back, and that did not happen. Seems you and Barrella have taken over the nasty PPBTA mailers
Mike Ryan
10:14 am on Friday, October 28, 2011
Not for nothing, Sean, but like him or not, Barrella "switched" to an independent because his party decided to run someone else. That's a little different than changing parties at will. I look at this as a situation similar to Joe Lieberman's where he lost the primary and was forced to run as an independent when it is common knowledge where he stands. Personally, I am embarrassed about the political situation in this town. Members of both parties are acting like a bunch of babies. The political fliers that are going around are laughable in many cases with the bent truths and in some cases, outright lies. We have people on the ballot who don't even show up to meetings. What is going on on New Jersey Avenue right now? I though Romper Room went off the air years ago. Being a registered republican and a fairly conservative guy on fiscal matters, for the first time in a long time, I think I agree with Monica Walsh. Something needs to change in this town, but I don't necessarily think its the mayor!
sandinmytoes
11:00 am on Friday, October 28, 2011
Mr. Ryan, are you talking about this year or last year? Last year, the year of the Recall, a group of elected members of the Republican party, the County Committee, chose to put Reid up rather than Barrella as the Republican candidate for Mayor in the event that the Recall was passed by the voters. I understand that the Recall process is confusing. If Barrella survived the recall (meaning the voters voted "no" on the Recall question), he would continue on as a Republican Mayor. That's what he is right now. A Republican Mayor. If, however, the majority voted "yes" on the Recall question, they would get to choose among the other candidates. All the Republican organization did was give itself a "back up" plan last year by choosing Reid. Barrella didn't like that, which is why he ran as an Independent last year. As for this year, Barrella never applied to be a Republican candidate nor did he choose to run in the Republican Primary. I think it's important to remember that political parties have rules. As for choosing candidates in any election, if you're going to be critical, I suggest you have proof that someone didn't follow the rules.
Charles Clark
11:10 am on Friday, October 28, 2011
@Mike, Thank You!
sandinmytoes
9:23 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
Nick Mazzola is a nice man, obviously relatively new to politics. I'm sure he was very upset to hear that his running mate had dropped out. I'm also sure that the newspaper asked him who he'd support now, and Mazzola said Reid. Mazzola said at the forum last week that he thought Barrella had his shot, and now it was time for someone new. Ms. Walsh, whatever your issues with Lurie, I'm shocked to see that you'd decide not to support a genuine Democratic candidate like Mazzola, except for the fact that you'd already signed on to be Barrella's campaign manager in the Spring. Oh, and I didn't notice that you'd had any problems with Lurie's switch in parties back when he ran in 2009, nor did you have any problem with Lurie's signing the Recall petition at that time. Otherwise, you would've come out against Lurie then, right? Seems to me that it's the Independents who will try to get their candidates elected at all cost.
Mike Corbally
9:48 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
The D's have had the same Municipal Chair the last 4 years. I love it when you believe your own lies Sandinmytoes. It appears the most outspoken are afraid or embarrassed to use their names.
sandinmytoes
9:55 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
I'm not the one lying, Councilman Corbally. And, yep, we're afraid and with good reason. We've all seen that lovely lynch mob you have working for you on the internet. Of course, that doesn't explain why Charles Clark and John Wayne and Blindbert continue to post anonymously for your team, does it?
Charles Clark
8:44 am on Friday, October 28, 2011
@sand, Your imagination is running wild. I am not part of any lynch mob. I have not been working for anyone on the internet. I don't know and I am not affiliated with Wayne and Blind or working for any team. I support who ever I feel is lying the least. Which I have witnessed to be column C.
sandinmytoes
9:33 am on Friday, October 28, 2011
Mr. Clark, I think you misunderstood my post. I was not trying to suggest that you are a part of any lynch mob. Councilman Corbally wrote: "It appears the most outspoken are afraid or embarrassed to use their names" and as he had posted that to me, he obviously was referencing my use of an alias. I AM afraid to post under my real name because, quite frankly, I've seen how people who publicly oppose Barrella are treated, and it is more important to me that I maintain my safety. I do though, find it ironic, that Councilman Corbally and others are so focused on the true identity of some people who post, but not others. For example, they don't seem to focus on your true identity. That is what I meant by my post. As you also like to use an alias, I would think that you would join me in supporting the rights of those who like to post anonymously.
Charles Clark
10:03 am on Friday, October 28, 2011
@sand, I have no problem with anyone being anonymously. That is their choice and it could be for many reasons. It does not matter who it is or what is the issues. When you oppose anyone or issue in this town or anywhere for that matter you are treated different. You are ostracized from all sides just because you don't agree with them. Common we all know this by now. I have to give credit to some that do come forward and use their name. Obviously they are truly independent thinkers and don't care what any of them think or are going to say about them. Maybe they just don't want to be part of any group here. Individuals are going to do, say, think what they want and you are not going to change them. Sometimes individuals that use their own names are being used as pawns, being blamed for what others are really saying which is really bazar to me because don't they realize if they wanted to say something they would just have said it themselves. I must have misunderstood you, because what I have read was you think I am on some team. I am an independent thinker that is also afraid to come forward, I am not connected to anyone even though I am constantly getting accused of be with others or I am teams with one person of another. I respond to some post because I don't agree and I have possibly seen or felt something different then what is being stated by who ever and on many issues or post. I am really not on any side and my vote seems to change daily because of nonsense like this.
Charles Clark
8:04 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
@sand, That is not really true! Mike is not the only one who complains about being alias. Go look on many of the post, you have from both sides demanding to know who certain post are, calling them a coward and come out and stop hiding behind ones name. Guessing, which I find them to be totally wrong and feel bad for the person they are innocently accusing just because they might have said something similar of agreed on a few issues. It is a choice and it could be many reasons why someone does not want to expose themselves, like you said yourself. Maybe they are protecting their family. Now don't go thinking I am on Mike Corbally's side and that I supported him. I am just trying to make a point that the same one's who tell's others to come out is hiding behind an alias themselves. It shouldn't matter to each their own. I don't care what party side someone is on, I go by individuals and what some are saying on these posts. I don't care what club you are in. I respond and I will support who I think is right or someone who I think is wrong and their view was certainly not the same thing I seen.
Mike Corbally
10:01 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
Ghosts and Goblins for sure!
sandinmytoes
10:07 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
More like skeletons rattling around in your closet.
monica walsh
10:30 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
To Sean and "sandinmytoes" (I will assume that's your sister unless the author cares to indentify his/her self): You know that I have never run a negative campaign. I worked well with your father and no harsh words were ever said when your mother ran against me. The mailer that went out was totally based on the facts as I know them, and if you can dispute them, God bless you. I didn't care that Tim signed the recall petition. I did not. And I've never doubted Tim's ability. When I endorsed the Independent slate of Barrella, Thomson and Gordon, Tim wasn't even on the ticket. I have never endorsed Mr. Rizzo, knowing he sought the Council seat only to get even with the building department --- which had to fire him because he refused to take a mandated state test. Mr. Mazzola may be a nice man but I never met him during my years on Council or at a Democratic Club meeting.
Please remember, moreover, that your Republican Club refused to re-nominate Vinnie --- which forced him to the Independent slate, and not the Democratic Party which would have ambraced him.Tim had no such excuse. He used the Democratic party, such as it is, to forward whatever agenda he has. That's my problem with Tim: that he used my party, but worse still our voters, in this chess game to elect the Republicans. I have nothing to gain by endorsing the Independent Column C candidates. But I had a lot to lose if I hadn't: my self-respect .
sandinmytoes
9:43 am on Friday, October 28, 2011
Ms. Walsh (Petracco?), I forgot to welcome you to this forum. This is the first article you're posting on, right? As Councilman Hennessy has already stated, and as most people in town already know, the Hennessy family has no qualms publicly expressing their opinions, even when their opinions aren't popular. Kristin Hennessy posts here under her own name. You said that Tim wasn't even on the ticket when you chose to endorse the Independents slate. In other words, you had already abandoned the Democrats prior to the Democratic primary? Isn't it your responsibility, as a high ranking Democrat, to help your party find candidates to run for office, not simply jump ship and support other candidates? Based on the mailer received yesterday, where your ticket cricitizes Lurie for receiving "only 8 write in votes", I would think that you and the Independent supporters would be happy that Mr. Lurie has withdrawn from the race. Based on this mailer, you all don't seem to think that Lurie should be mayor, and now that's not a problem, right?
Mike Corbally
10:33 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
If they were there, the Private Investigator you guys hired this year did a lousy job! You overpaid!
Sean Hennessy
11:50 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
Monica,
Please stop with the spin. First, sandinmytoes is not my sister. My sister posts under her own name and everyone knows she is not basful about speaking her mind and people knowing it. I am at a loss of words about the comment "You know that I have never run a negative campaign", did you read the mailer you sent out today ??? You better go back and re-read it very carefully because the entire mailer is negative. You tried to discredit a man that is trying his best to better Point Pleasant Beach. You bring up his switching of parties like he is a trader. Did you ever stop to ask Tim why he moved to the Boro in the first place ? Maybe when he came back in 2007 he didn't care for the people running the Democratic club at the time, I believe that was about the time Gelson and Corbally came over from the Republicans to the Dems ? Hmm. You stoop to the Barrella/Diaz level by bringing up the recall petition and Tim signing his then fiance's name even when you knew he admitted that was a mistake. That isn't negative ? You say you never doubted his ability, then why go into how he voted on the special events ordinance ? Why didn't you bring up all of the positive things that Tim has tried to implement ? Why don't you stick to what Tim has accomplished as a member of the governing body compared to what Barrella has accomplished ? We all know the answer to that. As for Rizzo, do you have any proof to your statement as to why he ran for office, or is it again all assumption ?
monica walsh
12:14 am on Friday, October 28, 2011
Sean: it's late and I don't feel well enough to continue this debate, I've always had a good relationship with you and your family and I hope it remains so. Let's just say we agree to disagree: you're for the Republican ticket, and I'm for the Indepenents. And may the best ticket win!!!
Charles Clark
8:20 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
Why is it that Rizzo is running again for a council seat? He can't make any meetings to represent the tax paying residents of this town. Claimed he can't do the debate, that he is so ill, yet he has been dinning out hardly looking sick. If Frank Rizzo can go out with Stewart Fisher and their dates to dinner why can't he show up at council meetings? He is being disingenuous by running again. I guess that is the Beach way.
Charles Clark
11:36 am on Friday, October 28, 2011
Lman, I am just calling it as I see it. I find that they are all guilty of putting a few spins on issues and what actually happened. It is constant "look who is calling the kettle black" theory. The entire town is a mess because their isn't many that are being honest enough to the residents that live here and what is really going on in the town. Unfortunately they all have their own agenda. I find it funny that some candidates forget what they told you one time and then they tell you something else the next time out. By this point it could be anybody that wins. As usual the residents of Point Beach are confused and doesn't know who to pick because what they see for themselves, being there is so much spinning that is going on and some are considered friends. Scary, it is like the kiss of death. Kiss, hug and stab. All the residents can do is pick who they think does the least lying and spinning. May the best individual win.
Sean Hennessy
11:46 am on Friday, October 28, 2011
Mike Ryan,
Barrella was not selected as a republican candidate last year because he publicly accused pretty much every republican from the municipal to state level of being corrupt. Why, because he wasn't getting what he wanted. So why would anyone in the republican party want to support him at that point. A better question for you as a fiscal conservative is have you followed Vinny's track record for raising taxes during his term ? How about his view on cutting spending ? I remember he used to talk about lowering spending through attrition, boy that has sure changed ! You are entitled to vote for whoever you want but as a fiscal conservative and thinking Barrella is the answer, that is like saying you are a vegetarian and then ordering a cheesesteak. I have no idea what you are referring to about what is going on at NJ ave ? If there is a problem I'm not aware of please give me a call and let me know. BTW, I agree with you about this mailer, and that is why I questioned Monica Walsh on her comments.
Mike Ryan
12:07 pm on Friday, October 28, 2011
Recall aside, which was just another of the dumb things this town has done over the past few years, I never said that any party rules were broken, i'm saying that Mayor Barrella was basically forced into his current status. Bottom line is that comparing this situation to switching political parties on an almost annual basis is laughable. That is the kind of spin that has made us the laughing stock of of the Shore when it comes to politics. As for the recall election in the first place, this was a complete misuse of the entire purpose of having recall as an option in the first place. A recall should be used only in the case of a broken law or misuse of power. Neither happened. It is not to be used because of a dislike for one's policy. That's what general elections are for. The whole recall election issue is one reason our town is so screwed up right now.
Mike Ryan
12:19 pm on Friday, October 28, 2011
Sean,
I see you read into my letter as an endorsement of Mayor Barrella. It was neither that nor a condemnation of him. Nor is it in any attempt an indication of who I intend to vote for or why. If I feel like endorsing a candidate, I will simply state that fact. It was simply a commentary of the spin that is taking place and where it has lead our town. It is embarrassing. As for New Jersey Ave... Last time I checked... that's where council meets (kinda like when you say "Washington" you are referring to politicians, not the residents). Sorry for the confusion, but it was not a personal attack on anyone who happens to live on New Jersey Ave. As for the flyer... I wasn't being specific on what flyer, I actually have more issues with another that I received a while back (and no, not from the Beach Taxpayers Assoc... those immediately become go to the firewood pile). Doesn't matter which one, because they all contain spin.
Sean Hennessy
12:52 pm on Friday, October 28, 2011
Hi Mike,
Thanks for the clarification on NJ ave, I truly did misunderstand you. On the recall, my position from day one was I did not personally agree with it but I would not say it shouldn't happen because it is part of the democratic process, whether you and I like it or not. Also, sorry I took your comment about Barrella as an endorsement but it sounded like one.
Charles Clark
4:52 pm on Friday, October 28, 2011
Mike, That is what many do in the town, if you call it as you see it or you defend anyone because you know it is a down right lie or spin then you are their supporter and endorsing them. Where is Lman posts? @Sean, you don't think you are putting spins on issues? Really? You are actually making yourself look foolish. The residents are not that stupid. They know two things by now. 1) The council is the one who actually gets to vote on issues, they have the power and make most of the decisions based on their vote is what is going on in the town. Everyone is aware that the Mayor can only break a tie. We all know what has been going on. At least anyone who were attending the meetings and seen it for themselves. 2) Everyone is also aware that prior councils decisions unfortunately effect a current council, it could take years before it comes to a head. It happens at the higher level "Washington" too. Everyone blames the previous administrations. Low blows, its political. So the Reid and his running mates that came out with the new attack adds that the tax increases were caused under Barrella's watch and track records is ridiculous. It is all political grandstanding and everyone knows it. Just to let you know a head of time I am not endorsing anyone and who I am voting for as of yet. But let's be real with all the spinning and who is at fault.
beachmom46
2:26 pm on Friday, October 28, 2011
I appreciate Tim backing out now before the election. He realized he didn't have the time. Not everything is a conspiracy. Perhaps those posting here screaming "conspiracy" is because that is what they are guilty of.
Charles Clark
4:57 pm on Friday, October 28, 2011
@beachmom46, I don't think it was a "conspiracy" but the excuse is lame. If he doesn't have time to be Mayor he certainly is not going to have time to be a councilmen either. Individuals need to realize when they are not upfront and truthful it will come out. Residents are starting to demand and ask questions on what is going on in their town and all that want is an honest answer. Once you are caught in a few lies, no one is going to believe you. If you are going to lie, you should at least be a good liar.
Sean Hennessy
5:31 pm on Friday, October 28, 2011
Charles,
Now I know you have to be one of Barrella's insiders because that "mayor only breaks ties BS" is all they keep saying. The fact of the matter is the mayor runs the meetings, sets the agenda for the meetings, and has been the center of all the chaos and controversy over the last 4 years. If you think there is a spin to that then you have not been paying attention or you haven't been attending meetings. So the mayor's position is very important to leading the town, and in my opinion Point Pleasant Beach needs a desparate change in leadership from the mayor's seat. BTW, I'm still waiting for a mailer to come that lists what mayor Barrella has accomplished over the past 4 years.
Charles Clark
8:38 pm on Friday, October 28, 2011
Sean,
Wow, you really believe your own BS" I am convinced now for sure that you are not willing to admit who caused the real chaos and controversy over the last 4 years. It has been a disruptive group of egotistical councilmen that couldn't put their differences a side to make the right decision for the town. You are dead wrong and I have seen a bunch of overgrown men act like 4 year olds. Many know and I seen what is going on so you are not fooling anyone. Who is they exactly? There is many saying this because they have been seeing and dealing with it for the last four years. It is more than you think and many just stop going to meetings because of all the nonsense. The council members just fight amongst each other right out in the open, which is an embarrassment in itself and what you have been apart of. There is no BS about it, it is fact. Everyone knows this by now. Barrella, has stated many times in public, He can only make suggestions , He can only vote on something that becomes a tie amongst the council members. Are you saying this is not true. I am not saying he doesn't run the meetings, set the agendas and he opens and closes the meetings, but as far as voting on what is on the agenda that is up to the council members. They vote and he can only suggest and tie. This council has been the most dysfunctional council in the history of Point Beach and they have no one else to blame for themselves.
Charles Clark
8:59 pm on Friday, October 28, 2011
See below errors, break a tie and to blame but themselves.
Spooner
11:58 pm on Friday, October 28, 2011
Mr Clark: Mr Hennessy has challenged you to produce a list of what Mayor Barrella as done in his 4 years in office. . .you still have not responded to his request? As a matter of fact: not even the Mayor has responded here, or any of his supporters. One has to conclude that Mr Hennessy might have some measure of truth to his innuendo. . .that Barrella has accomplished nothing?
Joan Vuocolo
12:16 am on Saturday, October 29, 2011
Sean is absolutely right! All one has to do is attend a council meeting and see Mayor Barrella as his best. DIVIDE AND CONQUER!!! That's his motto and he does it well!!!
George Loder
5:49 pm on Friday, October 28, 2011
Mayor Barrella was not chosen as the Republican candidate for Mayor of PPB because his platform was Residents First. The Mayor's position was in direct conflict with many of the powerful special interests in PPB. Soon to be former Councilman Hennessy has failed to mention that Mr. Reid was picked by a municipal committee comprised of Hennessy Republicans. It was the first time in PPB history that an incumbent Mayor was not picked by his own party for an upcoming election. I was not surprised Mayor Barrella was not chosen by the municipal committee knowing who was behind the selection effort. The endorsement of Mr. Reid was made by the committee and not by the club. I ask Mr. Hennessey - what have you done in your 4 years of office? In our form of government, we have a weak Mayor and strong council. Our Mayor only votes when there is a tie. Mr. Hennessy served on the Finance committee crafting our town's budget. He voted on the budget. It is the Council that makes the financial decisions in PPB. What did he do to control spending? The excellent work of Councilmen Hennessy,Dyer, Rizzo, and Laurie resulted in 17 furlough days for our employees this year. The blame needs to go to some of the Council and not the Mayor. As a former Republican councilman and Municipal Chairman, please join me and fellow Republicans, Democrats, and Independents in PPB to vote on Nov 8th "All Three in Column C" for Barrella, Thomson and Gordon. Let's keep PPB Residents First. George Loder
Kristin Hennessy
6:47 pm on Friday, October 28, 2011
Mr. Loder:
As the former Republican Club Municipal Chairman, you know full well it was the Republican County Committee (a body of 8 people ELECTED by the Republican voters of PPB) who selected Stephen Reid over Vincent Barrella to be the Republican candidate for Mayor.
As the former Republican Club President, I will gladly provide the names of those 8 folks to offer clarification for the Patch readers of this article:
District 1:
Jerry Landers
Sandy Pasola
District 2:
Bill Ammirata
Joellen Arrabito
District 3:
Tom Migut
Carolyn Slachetka
District 4:
Marty Vaccaro
Marry Mossa
Looking at the above listed names, I would not characterize any of those people as "Hennessy Republicans" OR people who represent the "powerful special interests in PPB". Rather, I view them all as independent-minded folks who made the selection of Mr. Reid based on who they thought would best represent Point Pleasant Beach going forward. Are you actually suggesting that ANY of these 8 people do not put "Residents First"?
You further stated:
"It was the first time in PPB history that an incumbent Mayor was not picked by his own party for an upcoming election...I was not surprised Mayor Barrella was not chosen by the municipal committee knowing who was behind the selection effort."
Thank you for the opportunity to clarify who was behind the selection effort. These 8 people must have possessed an insight and vision for PPB's future that was different from yours?
sandinmytoes
9:25 pm on Friday, October 28, 2011
Mr. Loder, is this true? Are these the 8 people who were permitted to vote on the selection of last year's Republican candidate for Mayor? Did they interview both candidates? Were you present at the meeting when the vote was taken and did you count the votes yourself? As for this being the first time in PPB history that an incumbent Mayor was not picked, wasn't this the first time in PPB history that any elected official was the subject of a recall? Wasn't this the first time in many years that any elected official in Ocean County was the subject of a recall referendum question? (I think that's what I read in the papers last year)
Spooner
12:13 am on Saturday, October 29, 2011
sandinmytoes: you might add to your post about Mayor Barella. . . Councilman Hennessy's point: "Barrella was not selected as a republican candidate last year because he publicly accused pretty much every republican from the municipal to state level of being corrupt. Why, because he wasn't getting what he wanted."
I might add: I'm sure you recall his attempt in Trenton to bring about a "local options" tax. I'm wondering. . .did he call those state legislators corrupt too?
Charles Clark
8:30 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
I would, most are " Hennessy Republican" puppets for sure, a few might be Barbara Reid's friend. You know how a small town is, everyone seems to know everyone but stabbing each other in the back as usual.
Charles Clark
9:11 pm on Friday, October 28, 2011
Everyone keeps on stating that Frank Rizzo is very sick including the papers and the reason he doesn't show up at council meetings for months and couldn't make the council debate. It is funny how the second time I have seen him out to eat, laughing, having fun, eating out like nothing is wrong with him. Just seen him tonight, eating at Simko's in Brielle, eating out with his friend Mr. Fisher. It appeared they were double dating with their ladies. Not that it is my business what he does in his personal time, but you can go out to eat, laughing and having fun but to sick to show up as a council member and still expect residents to vote for you. Why would anyone vote you in to council if you are not willing to show up at important council meetings and represent the residents in which you chosen to continue to do. Why? Are you planing to get in, so you can drop out too.
Joan Vuocolo
12:24 am on Saturday, October 29, 2011
@Charles Clark...What are you thoughts and opinions on council members not being present at meetings but being able to vote via telephone? Just wondering!!!
Charles Clark
8:39 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
@Joan, I don't agree that they should be allowed to vote via telephone. If they can't get to a meeting than they should not be able to vote. I also feel if a council member should only be allowed to miss a few meetings a year, only an emergency would be considered an excused absent. We have to many purposely not showing up. I would considered that snubbing the constituents that put them there. If you are sickly then step down and don't rerun for a council seat. Going on a constant vacation is no excuse either. When a town resident decides that they want to run for council to represent the residents of this town then they need to do their job that they were chose to do and go to every council meeting unless it is an extreme emergency.
Darlene Motto
11:33 pm on Friday, October 28, 2011
It amazes me what goes on in this one mile town. It is unbelievable how quick the political scene changes in a split second and who suddenly changes their minds and parties at a drop of a dime. It is a difficult choice on who to pick in the local political race here in the Beach. When there is so many who are fighting amongst each other. Not only from the current race from previous races that individuals don't want to let go and is holding a grudge one way or another. I really didn't know much about Lurie other than he continues to move in and out of Pt. Beach. He dropped out of the current Mayoral race and also resigned early from being a councilmen the first time around for personal reasons which is understandable. He was voted in again as councilman only to say he was running for Mayor and suddenly dropping out of the race. I feel the residents of Point Beach who supported or voted already for Lurie or who was going to vote for him will not help feeling betrayed by Lurie, just an opinion. It just seems a little odd for Lurie to drop out suddenly the last minute without much warning and his reasoning makes no sense to me. Just last weak in the Mayoral debate he was fighting how great of a Mayor he would be and was asking and trying to convince the residents of Point Beach for support and to give him a chance. Why would he wait so long to realize that he can't take on this task. I am sure many are disappointed and feel he is playing a game even if he really isn't.
sandinmytoes
10:19 am on Saturday, October 29, 2011
@ Hilde, regarding this year's election, Barrella had essentially three options if he wanted to run as the Republican candidate for Mayor. First, he could submit his name to the Screening Committee of the Republican Club to be considered as the Club's endorsed candidate. The Screening Committee makes recommendations to the Club as far as who it thinks the candidates should be in November, and then the Club votes on those choices The Club also takes nominations from the floor on the date of the vote. Second, he could simply file the paperwork to run as a Republican candidate in the Republican primary in the Spring. That's actually what he did in 2007. He ran in the 2007 primary against the Club-endorsed candidate, Tom Vogel, and beat Vogel, which is how he became the Republican candidate on the November ballot. Third, if enough Republicans wrote in his name on the Primary ballot, then Barrella would've had the option of running as the Republican candidate in November. That's how Lurie got on the November ballot. Enough people wrote in Lurie's name in the Democratic primary, allowing him the option of running for Mayor this year. People need to keep in mind that there are rules, laws and a process when it comes to Elections. I still wonder, though, what process was used to choose the Independents candidates. I don't remember any "Independents meetings" being advertised to the public.
Sean Hennessy
10:49 am on Saturday, October 29, 2011
Hilde,
Look at the source of which the information(or I should say misinformation) came from. George Loder !!! If you have about 4 or 5 hours some day and care to hear the truth about what has really gone on with the Barrella, Loder, Diaz trio I would be glad to fill you in. You would be shocked to find out what has really gone on in the last 4 years. I'm glad others are posting in and rebutting George Loder's statements, people are starting to catch on to what this group is all about.
Mickey Diaz
12:23 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
Councilman if you have a problem with me you can certainly come around the corner to my house and speak with me face to face. I am amazed how you keep bringing my name up and accusing me of spreading misinformation and writing letters for Councilwoman Walsh. Monica is a big girl and can write her own letters. You are just mad that a Democrat with the cache that comes with serving the town as a Coucilwomen for 12 years is endorsing Barrella, Thomson and Gordon as do I. As I recall you asked me to write for you campaign when you were first running. If you would like to compare notes, I have all the e mails we exchanged and the copy you asked me to proof. I also have the E mail I sent you stating I could not be part of your campagin as I did not agree with your direction. No matter how the election goes in November, the residents are all going to be winners in January when you are no longer on Council. If you spent half the time working on Council issues that you spend on the Patch Blog you might have actually accomplihsed something. It seems you and your gang are worried that the residents are catching on to the little game your Republican club is playing with Councilman Lurie to try and get Steve Reid elected. Do you think the results of the phone poll that occured in town didn't get out? Once you all saw the Luries presence in the race was hurting Reid he magically resigned and endorsed your candidate. The residents are smarter than you give them credit for.
Mike Corbally
12:21 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
I left the Republican Club because of the Politics of "Personal Gain", and resigned my position as Treasurer of the Democratic Club 8/1/11, for the same selfish "Political Game Playing". The Republican Club in Point Pleasant Beach has been a mess for the last 10 years and my guess is the Democratic Club just self destructed. We need people running these Clubs that aren't depending on Government jobs, or Special Interest money for their incomes.
johnny knoxville
12:28 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
So let me get this straight. Three rogue individuals who have no party affiliation and no allegiance to any organization or club are running for three of the seven seats to run the entire town ? These people have to answer to no one. So if they were to all get in they would only need one other vote to do whatever they want ? That is very dangerous considering the track record and comments I've heard so far. We all know Barrella would have forged ahead with his parking plan three years ago even though an auditorium of people came out against it. Isn't Tooker still on council ? She ignored the room full of people that night also. These two along with Corbally and one more vote will bankrupt this town through litigation costs alone. Is it true Corbally and Tooker voted at the last council meeting to sue Jenkinson's for 28,000 dollars but it will cost us 50,000 in litigation fees ? It seems the choices in this election are obvious. Anyone but Barrella ! Who cares if Lurie dropped out. There is another choice. That choice is Reid, Mayer, Cortes.
David Cavagnaro
1:11 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
I thought the purpose of an election is that candidates are “ beholden” to the people they are suppose to serve? You seem to suggest that if they aren’t controlled by a club or an organization they’ll go crazy. That’s absurd. When people filled Antrim Auditorium on the parking issue, party, club or organization didn’t matter. The Council saw the number of people and listened. It’s called democracy!
Charles Clark
8:52 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
@ Johnny Knoxviille, The choice is Reid, Mayer, Cortes might be for you but not for others for sure. That is what happens when you have Rizzo who never shows up for council meetings, Hennessy was not there either, I guess he is done and Dyer which is pretty much is useless because he has to excuse himself being he is doing business with the BW, which personally he should just bow out and give his seat up to someone else that could vote and do the job. Johnny, many don't want to vote for Reid because he is a LOBBYIST and most know what they are all about. It would be really bad for any town never mind a town like ours. Not much of a choice, so they say the least of two evils which I would have to say is BARRELLA now that Lurie is out of the race.
Cathy Kelly
12:40 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
Mr.Diaz,
I could not have said it better myself. January cannot come fast enough. Unfortunately if Reid gets in the lies,spins and the "residents come last" will continue.Just look at all the lies Mr.Reid has already been called out on,and he is not even in office yet.
Sean Hennessy
12:50 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
Mickey please, your not fooling the real world. The comment I made about you to Monica was is reference to your OS letter to the editor. Or did you forget what you wrote ? Your comment about me leaving council is typical with your group. Classless, meaningless, and empty. Keep fooling yourself and your followers.
Charles Clark
8:58 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
Sean,
You are not fooling the real world either. I don't know what you are talking about. What followers? Are you saying that your own group dosen't have their own followers. Hellooooooo, All of you just keep on trying to get back at each other instead of you representing the tax residents of this town. You all plot, plan and attack instead of putting the effort were it needs to be our town which is slowly going down the drain.
Spooner
12:34 am on Sunday, October 30, 2011
11:58pm on Friday, October 28, 2011
Mr Clark: I addressed your comment yesterday above. . .You have an awlful lot to say, but you don't respond with substance to Councilman Hennessy's request. . .He has challenged you to produce a list of what Mayor Barrella as done in his 4 years in office. . .you still have not responded? As a matter of fact: again not even the Mayor or any of his supporters have responded. . .
Again one has to conclude that Mr Hennessy has some measure of truth to his innuendo. . .that Barrella has accomplished nothing?
Charles Clark
8:00 am on Sunday, October 30, 2011
@Spooner,
Sorry, there is no substance or truth to Sean Hennessy, but nice try! Why bother?We know your group that is on here will just spin and twist everything around as usual. Listen, Let's face it, anyone that is a Barrella supporter is not going to support and vote for Reid and vise versa. I am glad the Mayor has enough sense not to come on here and lower himself to this nonsense. He has published his accomplishment and spoke of them over and over either in the local paper and on political mailing fliers and at the debate. Really, there is to many to list.
Mike Ryan
12:56 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
Just reading all of the bickering and whining going here is really disheartening. I have a feeling that we are in for a long wait before something gets accomplished in this town if we don't all stop acting like children. To be honest, the party system is worse in Pt. Beach than it is in Washington. I personally think that if every candidate had to run independently... NO official party backing or affiliation, then we would be much better off. Then there would be no string pulling from above or CYA votes even if your personal belief went against the rest of your party's. Until the elected officials and residents of this town grow up, we will be dealing with this junk rather than accomplishing something. It is really a sad thing to witness.
Charles Clark
9:06 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
@Mike, I agree and it is sad to witness. If only they would put their differences a side and put the same effort that they do attacking each other or trying to get back at each other because of something that was said or party change, disagreements, winning previous races, it is ridiculous mean while the residents are frustrated on what is going on in their town. We have every side spinning issues and they are all guilty and this is making the residents crazy because they see it at meetings with their own eyes and then they twist , spin and put their own lies in the paper.
Sean Hennessy
1:07 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
Councilman,
Don't you work in the real estate market in our town ?Don't you focus on group/summer rentals ? Aren't those special interests ? Or a conflict of interest ?
Part Timer
2:06 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
There is a conlict of interest or should be when it comes to Mr Corbally voting on any ordinance that is geared towards summer rentals. I know first hand that he does not follow the rules of summer rentals (animal houses) for I have to live next to aleast 20 kids every summer that the Councilman rents to.
Mike Corbally
1:23 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
Sean, I would hardly call opening a New Real Estate Business (www.barefootrealestatenj.com), a "Special Interest"? But you wouldn't understand working in the private business world. Nothing Personal! Thanks for the opportunity to plug Barefoot Real Estate, 405 Arnold Avenue, PPB.
Part Timer
2:00 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
I thought there was an ordinance restricting realestate offices on ground floor...
Mike Corbally
2:08 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
Where we are located Real Estate is a permitted use.
Mike Corbally
2:23 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
Yup, the other Realtors "Love" me. I voted to make our signs smaller, tighter animal house restrictions, working to improve the late night BW mess, and I'm in favor of expanding the Hotel/Motel tax to rentals. I don't think the taxpayers will find any conflicts in where my priorities lie. The Real Estate Community has laws we must follow. The town needs to change the magnet that draws the crowd we get.
Part Timer
12:19 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Councilman Corbally,
If you have voted to make restrictions on the animal house ordinance then why do I have to deal with 20 plus animals next to me @ 21 Central Ave every year.
And yes, these renters sign a contract every year with your name as agent.
Mike Corbally
12:43 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Part Timer, I have only been in the business for 2 years. My name was on that lease only last year. Start being a little honest. I believe that was the William Ball's Agency only problem house last year. We try very hard, but we are not permitted by law to turn people away. 80% of the group rentals want to be as close to the Tiki Bar or Jenkinsons as possible. They are the magnet I refer too. I would must rather work with families, but our reputation draws more renters like you experienced. I'm sorry you had that experience last Summer. I wish you better neighbors next Summer.
Part Timer
1:01 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Mr Corbally,
First, what is the definition of a group rental...
Second, If there is a crack down on these group rentals then how do you expect to make a profit going foward with your new business.
Mike Corbally
2:46 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
I consider a "group rental" when non-families come to rent a place for the season. Sometimes they work out, and unfortunately some just don't care. I would prefer these clients go some place else for their vacations. Why have the families left PPB? We hope to build a business through giving prospective home buyers/sellers personal service that we feel corporations don't offer anymore. As a team, we will be available 7 days a week, 24 hours a day for our customers. We will give folks thinking about selling an honest appraisal of their home, not wasting their time or ours on a list price that won't move their property. We believe customer service is a lost art in our world today. We hope to bring it to the Real Estate business in PPB. We will work hard and see what happens. That's all we can do!
Kristin Hennessy
5:32 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
Councilman Corbally,
You stated: "We need people running these Clubs that aren't depending on Government jobs, or Special Interest money for their incomes."
Didn't YOU recently hold a government job during your term on the PPB Council -- when you worked as the Borough Administrator for Monmouth Beach? Did you leave that position voluntarily because you had an epiphany -- that holding public employment -- was somehow making you corrupt for "personal gain" or beholden to some mysterious "special interests" or "political machine" or was there a different reason?
I for one, resent your innuendos that some public employees cannot be objective thinkers and decision makers. In the interest of full disclosure, I am a public employee. I am very proud of the work that I do. I am most proud of the fact that I was hired based on a resume of credentials, and not because of any political connections. As a public employee, I am also very sensitive to the plight of the taxpayers in our current economy, and I have remained steadfast and consistent in my fiscal conservative position as a "taxpayer advocate."
I find it quite disingenuous that you would criticize some folks for having a "government job"; however YOU and your political allies -- Ms.Tooker (a PPB teacher) and Mayor Barrella (a former IRS worker) -- all current and former public employees -- are never the targets of your own wrath.
People Who Live in Glass Houses Shouldn't Throw Stones....Nothing Personal!
Mike Corbally
5:46 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
Your resentment is your problem, not mine. Toss away?
Spooner
12:48 am on Sunday, October 30, 2011
Mr Corbally. . .your not responding to Ms Hennessy's allegations. . .Is it true...or not, that you held a government job in Monmouth Beach, as Ms Hennessy alleges. . .It's a simple Yes or No answer. . . and not a "toss away?". . .That's no answer!
Your a government official. . .you need to respond. . .
Kristin Hennessy
6:44 pm on Saturday, October 29, 2011
This article is about Tim Lurie withdrawing his bid for Mayor of PPB.
The villification of TIm for his decision is absolutely despicable in my humble opinion.
I have known Tim for a very long time. He is an honorable and decent man. It's no secret, that I have not always agreed with some of his decisions, or the way he's voted on certain issues. I have told him to his face whenever I've disagreed with his positions; however we can still remain civil to one another. I respect Tim for being a public servant; someone who is willing to give of his time to the residents of PPB and do what he thinks is best. Obviously, many people agree, since he was the "top vote-getter" and earned the trust of 1,000+ residents when he was elected in 2009.
I believe Tim's reasons for withdrawing from this Mayoral race are genuine and sincere. Any reasonable person understands that work and/or family commitments must be prioritized over politics. If Tim has suddenly realized that he doesn't have the time to devote to being Mayor of our community, then that's his decision, and I respect him for his honesty and selflessness.
I think "Beachmom46" said it best....
"Not everything is a conspiracy!"
That's what's been woefully wrong with PPB for the past 4 years. Barrella, Tooker, and their loyal army of soldiers turn EVERYTHING into a conspiracy theory, and the residents/taxpayers have suffered dearly as a result.
It's Time for a Change and a New Direction for PPB in 2011!
Cathy Kelly
9:46 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
I am sure that if any other candidate,of a different agenda than your own party's agenda bailed out a week and a half before the election,you would be fine with that...because thats just the type of person you are,right??/
Mike Ryan
8:14 am on Sunday, October 30, 2011
It is incredible that this string keeps going with the same back and forth. As for what Mayor Barrella has accomplished... Well, once again I will state that while this is not an endorsement or a condemnation, but let's be real here. In his four years, he has dealt with a recall election (which as I stated before, in my belief was a sham and a misuse of a legitimate government process) and an adversarial and in my eyes, a semi-disfunctional council. Abraham Lincoln would have had trouble getting anything substancial
Spooner
11:51 am on Sunday, October 30, 2011
Mr. Ryan:
The recall movement of Mayor Barella began in the fall of 2008. . . after he(Barrella) asked the state government permission to levy local options taxes on beach badges, parking lots, and alcohol — and more controversially, proposed parking fees on all neighborhood streets — to meet a $1.5 million gap in the borough’s budget.
Republican state representatives(whom he called corrupt) didn’t like the idea. “We don’t support raising taxes, and [Barrella] doesn’t accept that response,” said state Sen. Andrew R. Ciesla (R-Ocean)
Proposals were put forth. . . that went no where...
...to deal with the party goer crowd at the beaches, boardwalk bars, amusement parks and pavilions. . .let the boardwalk businesses hire additional police.
BW businesses could have established a geographical boundary, a board of directors, and agree to a municipal tax. In exchange, the revenues are funneled back to the district to provide needed services: sanitation, street cleaning, boardwalk repairs, security, and marketing. . .more of the Mayor's accomplishments at solving problems. . .
The Mayor's solution. . .more tax revenue. . .where ever he can get it?
...and the way politicians play revenue games like Barrella and others. . . is like a FedEx conveyor belt. . . constantly shifting and funneling scare town resources(tax money) for community needs and services, carrying risk consequences when something goes wrong. . . like what happened this summer. . .
Darlene Motto
12:28 am on Monday, October 31, 2011
Spooner, Does it really matter at this point? He fought in something he strongly believed in. I don't know who you are, but I am sure if you felt your were wrongly accused, you would want to clear your name also. The entire recall most likely should not have happened to begin with, but it did. It is over and done with and we all need to move on. The voters have already chosen Mayor Barrella in both the recall and the larger of number of votes and support. So everyone get over it already. Here we are again, Voting for either Mayor Barrella or Mr. Reid. We can't afford as a town to continue to bicker back and fourth, we all need to move forward if we want to accomplish anything as a TOWN. We all are going to have opinions on how to handle issues and that is fine and everyone is entitled to their own opinions. To keep on dredging up what happened or what should happened is always going to different. Being everyone has their own views on how they are seeing it. So, lets start a new leaf and respect each others opinions. Let's stop influencing others and EVERYONE vote for whom you think is the best man for the job and may the best man win. Good Luck! It seems many of you on this post have been bickering back and fourth and you missed a cold but beautiful day.
Spooner
3:29 am on Monday, October 31, 2011
Ms Motto: what I wrote. . . is part of determining the qualifications for someone to be re-elected. . .they call it his record. . .you look at the Mayor's performance . . . and the recall was part of that record. . .it has to be considered. . .
A Mayoral recall confirms a lack of leadership. . .in this case the Mayor's inability to move the political agenda of his campaign platform. . .what he ran on. . .
Recall elections are political acts of the people. . .not legal ones. . .you don't fight them in Courts of Law. . .there fought in the political venue at " boards of elections"
Darlene Motto
6:26 am on Monday, October 31, 2011
Spooner.......It may be according to you and how you are seeing it.......The Mayor has won on both...... so lets move on for the entire town's sake...... Let leave it alone and start over because if Mayor Barrella wins the town does not need individuals still talking about a recall for 4 more years. May the best man win! Good Luck!
Charles Clark
12:45 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
@Spooner: Doesn't Andrew R. Ciesla's Aunt owns a Parking Lot up by the boardwalk? Sure, he is going to go against his own family member and the BW Empire? You have think if there is other connections in one way or another. Why or How does other towns, states get to have a tourist tax and there are others who have an increase in municipal tax in which there is a difference than a home resident tax. I don't hear any complaints from that area because they know darn well it does not effect their tourists from coming there. They come, they spend money, no problems. This town seems to be the only one crying that they will not come. If our governor or these local politicians expect the towns to survive on their own they need to give them some local authority. They can't keep on saying, you are on your own and expect any town to survive not just ours. If anything it is worse for Point Beach,because other surrounding towns don't get the visitors we do and the tax paying residents are not expected to pay for it all.
Charles Clark
12:46 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
error... tourists going there.
Charles Clark
1:32 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
errors.... I made a few, made words plural. I am sure you all will get my point of opinions.
Joan Vuocolo
9:48 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Not to worry Charles, you won't be graded for grammatical errors.
Charles Clark
3:00 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
@Joan, Thanks for your approval. I find some is so quick to. Bad habit of mine. I type fast in the heat of the moment I make all type of errors. This is what happens in a texting world. Everything is shortened, abbreviated, it is not very proper.
Mike Ryan
2:42 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
@Spooner... You still have not listed what he did that can be considered illegal or an abuse of power. If we had recall elections every time we disagreed with policy or the demeanor of an elected official every elected official would face a recall stemming from his/her opposition. You might hate him or the things he says or does, but your recourse should be the NEXT election. Example: most people in this country oppose much of Obama's policy... But he still should NOT face recall (impeachment in this case) just because of that fact. I personally will give an official the benefit of the doubt when they face such a huge distraction while in office. The recall election has really soured my confidence in the political process in our town to be quite honest...
Spooner
3:50 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
@mike ryan: again what bought about the recall, is the law. There was nothing illegal, and as for abuse of power: that becomes a perspective argument. . .which you seem to be questioning?
Barrella appealed the case against recall, all the way to the New Jersey Supreme Court...Now if those of you are interested in what the Supreme Court ruled on, you can read Barrella's argument and the Court's argument, representing the people at: http://law.justia.com/cases/new-jersey/appellate-division-unpublished/2010/a3026-09-opn.html
. . .Enjoy the reading Mike
Mike Ryan
4:07 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
Abuse of power would be defined as using his position to acquire something for himself or someone else that may or may not be against the law. He did neither. Being coarse in language or being a bully is NOT abuse of power. Once again I state. The recall should NOT have happened. Whether it was legal to DO SO is not relevant. The REASON it happened was petty and WILL come into play with whom will receive my vote. Those who supported it are less likely to receive MY support. Unless a law was broken or power was legitimately abused (of which neither happened), an elected official should be able to complete a term and then be judged by the people on his/her accomplishments or lack there of.
Kristin Hennessy
6:41 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
Mr. Ryan,
I happen to agree with you that the recall process presented a distraction to the PPB residents’ and taxpayers’ ability to receive "good government." My family was presented with numerous opportunities to sign the recall petition. None of us did.
However, the statutorial recall process does NOT require a reason to be given – ie. an illegal act was committed by the official being subject to recall OR abuse of power or otherwise. Legally, the recall election was allowed BY THE COURTS to proceed. Does that make it right? No, but it is what it is. The Republican Committee (elected by the PPB voters) had a duty BY LAW to proceed accordingly, as to the appropriate course of action they saw fit. They chose Mr. Reid to be the candidate to run as a Republican in the recall election.
Having said that – it’s really “water under the bridge” at this point. It's been a long time coming -- to move beyond this "Recall" distraction and get back on track to judging our elected officials on their merits and their accomplishments (or lack thereof) -- OR -- consider new candidates to fill the role of Mayor and Council persons.
Kristin Hennessy
6:42 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
In an earlier post, you had mentioned a "semi-dysfunctional Council" as a potential reason Mayor Barrella has failed to deliver on his original policy goals. That made me chuckle out loud a bit. It’s sort of a funny parallel – I was listening to Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday this afternoon. Barack Obama continues to blame a “dysfunctional Congress” for his inability to achieve his policy objectives. To that I say – Thank God for the “dysfunctional Congress” that has blocked him from taking this country in a further negative downward spiral!
The primary job of the Mayor in our local form of government is to build cooperation and consensus among the Council members and to attempt to help them find a middle ground that works best for everyone. In my opinion, Mayor Barrella's abrasive personality and "bully" style has caused him to fail miserably at that task.
Kristin Hennessy
6:44 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
Last night, I was listening to Governor Huckabee’s program – a man who I respect and admire very much. I’ll leave you with this quote that I found quite profound:
Gov. Huckabee stated:
“We need to stop looking at government and politics in a Horizontal fashion…ie. Who is Republican, Democrat, Independent, Conservative, Liberal, or Libertarian? etc.” “But rather, we should look at government in a Vertical fashion…ie. Are things better or worse than they were when this person(s) took office?”
Therefore, I conclude that when one goes into the polls to vote on a candidate for National, State, or Local office, I believe they should ask themselves this over-arching question:
Has your personal situation (Financial Status, Taxes, Quality of Life issues, or otherwise) been made BETTER OR WORSE during this person’s time in office.
For me, the answer to that question is a very simple one in our PPB local election. Plain and Simple -- Property Taxes have increased by 44%, and our Quality of Life has deteriorated in the past 4 years, and I believe that it’s time for a serious change!
Charles Clark
7:01 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
Kristen,
Also ask yourself, why did they go up 44% over the time span. Who got to vote on most of the issues? No other than the "semi-dysfunctional council" along with prior council's who made very poor decisions. Everyone is aware that many of the problems come to surface way after the fact. It will always effect you down the road. Many blamed President Bush and Now they are blaming President Obama, that is the way it is.
blindbert
4:44 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
A good friend of mine called me immediately when the story of him running for mayor broke. He opined at the time that he would run as a spoiler then withdraw in October. No it
I would imagine that the absentee ballot voters that cast for him are annoyed. If he runs for council again, what party affiliation will he be. Maybe he is now good enough for the repubs.
Mike Ryan
7:12 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
Kristen... I respect your stance on the recall and agree completely with the comment of Congress, however my point on the recall has nothing to do with law, rules etc. Yes, LEGALLY, it part of due process and courts upheld it. I'm referring to what seems to be amiss in this whole process. "Common Sense". After all, legally... and according to a court, McDonalds is responsible for a patron who spills hot coffee in his lap because "contents hot" was not printed on his cup. However, ask anyone with common sense about who is responsible and they will say the dumb schmuck who spilled his hot coffee on himself. My belief about council being dysfunctional comes from several incidents that, due to the nature of my employer, I am not at liberty to discuss. However lets just invoke the common sense aspect to them and they would be considered standard "WTF" incidents. I agree fully with you however about are we better of... but in the true sense of that argument, we should vote for the non-incumbent for all seats. I don't think that is the answer. Bottom line is that whomever is elected better stop with the petty stuff and figure out a way to make this town move ahead again or we'll wind up like Asbury Park in no time.
Spooner
11:48 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
@Mike Ryan: did you read the Appellate Court opinion regarding Barrella's appeal of the recall petition? You use the expression "common sense" . . .so does that mean 1217 residents in a town of about 3500 eligible voters were not exercising their "rights" when they signed those petitions. . .and according to you they should wait four years to do so. . .even though the Mayors behavior was unbecoming in their view of what you like to define for them here as "Common Sense"
...not to mention that this recall election could have been held in November of 2009. . .
...and why wasn't if held then. . .because Mayor Barrella used the same law that you seem to be opposed too. . .to obstruct and cause the town to expend money for legal cost as a party to his lawsuit. . .to throw out the petition. . .but that wasn't good enough for Mr Barrella...taking the case to Superior Court. . .when the Court ruled against him in a lengthy oral opinion(a lot more tax dollars for this trial) . . .he again wasn't satisfied. . .so he appealed to the Appellate Court. . .and they wrote another long decision(with more of our money spent). . .and what did the Appellate Court decide. . .the Mayors appeal was denied. . .
Spooner
12:02 am on Monday, October 31, 2011
...you think that it stopped Barrella. . .not by a long shot. . .with his arrogance. . .he appealed once more. . .this time all the way to the New Jersey Supreme Court. . .and what did the Supreme Court tell him. . . that Judge Foster's decision in Superior Court stands! . . .Almost a year wasted !
Now I don't know if you know anything about legation. . .but it takes up a lot of time preparing briefs and motions. . . with more time for research thrown in. The Mayor was his own attorney. . . he had to spend a lot of time between his job, and these appeals. . .So how much time did he have for the peoples' business . . .
Charles Clark
7:21 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
What is wrong with Asbury Park? According to some that will never happen and to the other half, are fine with it turning into Asbury Park.
Cathy Kelly
9:15 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
Kristin, Your last comment about how you agree with Governor Huckabee,leads me to believe that Party affiliation should not matter as long as the person is right for the job. Is this correct? So you would have no problem voting against your club if you voted candidate instead of party? If the best person for the job is a democrat,you would support them,is that what you are saying??Please clarify....
Kristin Hennessy
10:38 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
Mrs. Kelly,
When I go into the voting booth and pull the curtain shut, my vote is a private one and my business only.
As a fiscal conservative, I generally favor Republican candidates based upon the Republican core values of: promoting capitalism and a free-market enterprise society, self-sufficiency, lower taxes, limited government spending, smaller, more effective and efficient government, and common sense solutions. A Teddy Roosevelt type Republican who seeks to respect and preserve our environment and our natural resources is an added bonus in my humble opinion.
Cathy Kelly
9:17 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
The other fact that I would like to bring up is,although many people were against the recall out of principal, Barella won the election with the most votes. The recall did not matter he still received the most amount of votes....
Cathy Kelly
11:06 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
Kristin,you did not answer the question,yet once again you twisted your answer. Are you about the most qualified,or are you about party. Would you open your mind to vote for a democrat or an independent. I do not need a history lesson on the republican values. I want to know if you would vote for a candidate that is not part of the republican party. It is a simple question. Yes or No?
Kristin Hennessy
6:04 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Mrs. Kelly,
I thought that I had answered your question without any twists. Perhaps, you didn't like my answer, because it seems to have made you angry? Again -- my vote is a private one and nobody's business but mine.
I will say this with regard to local Democrats past and present -- Tim Lurie has been a very good Council member, and I admire and appreciate his accomplishments. Dan DiCorcia always worked well with my father -- when my father was Mayor and Dan was on the Council. Mike DiCicco, another Democrat, is a good man. An intelligent man of good character with a cooperative and pleasant personality, and someone who always seemed willing to listen to everybody's point of view to attempt to reach a consensus. If Mike had been elected Mayor in 2007, we would probably not be in the mess that we are today. It's really quite a shame that Mike has since moved out of town. He was an asset to our governing body and to our community.
Cathy Kelly
6:31 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Kristin,you did not make me angry. Again,I will repeat my question. Again,I will state it is simply a yes or no answer. If a candidate is better qualified but not endorced by the Republican Club. Would you vote for that Candidate. I am not asking for a speech,I am simply asking a YES or NO question...
Kristin Hennessy
10:16 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Mrs. Kelly,
I have answered your question with respectful and polite answers -- twice! Obviously, you'll never be satisfied with my reply.
Look -- I'm not sure why you are so concerned with who I would vote for in a hypothetical situation. Why does my opinion matter to you so much? I would never demand that YOU tell ME who you will be voting for.
Nevertheless, I'll make you a deal, OK? When I decide to endorse any candidate for office in the future, I'll let you know first. That way, you can publish my endorsement on your email hotline, and you can share the good news with everyone -- hot off the presses. Fair enough?
Cathy Kelly
12:07 am on Monday, October 31, 2011
Spooner,not only was the recall defeated but Barella received the most votes. How do you explain that?
Spooner
3:03 am on Monday, October 31, 2011
Ms Kelly. . .after he got elected. . . Barrella thought he was going to set the the Beach's coffers on fire with glowing revenue from all kinds of options taxes and parking fees. . .to the point of angering more than 25% of the electorate in the Beach. . . you know ...those other people that you don't speak for and what was it last year . . . about 800-900 of them voting for the recall. . . Those people are still there. . .
Anyway. . . Instead of Barrella taking a go slow approach to political change... like maybe just pushing through his parking plan, and tackling the options taxes one at a time. . .later in his term maybe. . .That's not what he did!
...So again I don't comprehend your retort: "not only was the recall defeated but Barella received the most votes"
Your town politically "is fractured". . .there is no leadership. . .your at war with the BW . . .who have lots of money and will cause the town to expend 10's of thousands of tax dollars. . .people and their families will be effected financially on both sides. . .
You some how think that winning is what it's about. . . and then the rainbow will appear. . .Well according to you he won last year. . .so where's that rainbow?. . .No No you say. . . it's coming on Nov 8. . .
...I'm just shaking my head. . .and laughing. . .The only thing coming on Nov 8. . .is Vinnie's ego. . . getting puffed up if he wins and I guess yours too. . .
Cathy Kelly
12:21 am on Monday, October 31, 2011
This is taken directly from Mr.Reids website. He says,for all to see, that he motivates and shapes public opinion,and actively controls them to achieve desired results...if you want a lobbyist as Mayor than I guess he is your man but please do your homework before election time...The following is the EXACT QUOTE on his website...
"Capital Public Affairs (CPA) understands that communications is a critical component to the success of our clients. We develop our clients’ messages and then work with members of the media to achieve desired results. Our approach is designed to effectively deliver key messages to targeted audience(s), build and maintain quality reputations and motivate and shape public opinion. We not only respond to specific situations, but actively control them to achieve desired outcomes."
Cathy Kelly
12:24 am on Monday, October 31, 2011
here is his link.
http://www.cpanj.com/
Spooner
2:01 am on Monday, October 31, 2011
Ms Kelly: what is your point here about Mr Reid . . .your not telling us something that's a big secret. . .It was already printed here by the 'patch' . . .maybe you didn't read it. . .
http://pointpleasant.patch.com/articles/reid-battles-barrella-again-and-rizzo-runs-for-reelection-in-point-pleasant-beach-races
Darlene Motto
8:03 am on Monday, October 31, 2011
@Hilde, That was my point, the recall is over and this is a different election. We need to move on. Mayor Barrella prevailed the recall that most would have given up. That is a good quality to have and needed during tough times our town may be facing. We need new council members because some of the ones we have been dealing with the past few years have abused their power on so many levels. Constituents do not like when officials abuse their power. They then have the power to remove them during election time. Hopefully the new council members who are voted in realize this too.
Bar-barella
11:26 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Darlene, I agree with you completely. We definitely need new council members to better serve the constituents of Point Pleasant Beach. We also need a new mayor.
Mike Ryan
9:36 am on Monday, October 31, 2011
@Spooner...
In short. YES, the town should have let Barrella finish his term unencumbered by a recall (which was proven by the numbers AT the election) which was brought against him by the minority of people who were upset that they didn't get their way. You act as if we should be shocked that he defended himself. Would you just roll over and not fight for your beliefs? Obviously you have a bone to pick with the mayor with your subjective description of him. I'm sure if your candidate gets in and the opposition immediately puts their "legal right" to a recall... Your views would abruptly change.
Spooner
12:08 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
@mike ryan: you use the term "Common Sense" . . .there was no need to engage in those legal theatrics. . .as you put it: "was brought against him by the minority of people who were upset that they didn't get their way" . . . this minority would have had no effect. . . if Barrella allowed the recall election to be held in Nov of 2009. . .It would have cemented his political strength even more. . .but unfortunately the way the political wins were blowing. . .and Mr Cavagnaro would attest to my point . . .I don't think he would have survived that election. . .
He had no other choice but to engage as yous like to spin it "defend in himself" using the same election law that the recall committee used. . .hoping to stretch out the issue until things died down a bit, so even if he was unsuccessful in defeating the recall, he could garner up enough support over the interim.
And another ancillary political development was being played out over in the Boro, when Council President Susan Rogers was running for Mayor on her "zero tax" platform. . .at the expense of the town's employees. . .That gravitated over to the Beach last year. . . with public employees and parents of school children jumping to support Barrella with innuendos going around that Reid was going to consolidate the Boro & Beach schools with Rogers. . .
Your Mayor has been nothing but trouble to that town. . .you call that a "bone to pick" ?
Patch says:running out of characters...sorry
Mike Corbally
10:21 am on Monday, October 31, 2011
Gosh, are you guys still paying a PI? "Flip Flop Real Estate" was our first choice. Kristin, as you know I was referring to government appointees being involved. Teachers and most government employees go through a long process, usually testing, interviews etc. and thankfully political influence doesn't rear its ugly head. I'm uncomfortable with politicians, lawyers, engineers, etc. whose income is based and controlled primarily by elected officials. As you know, we appoint these folks. Their decisions could be swayed by finances, and not by the residents they serve or represent. I use my experience as Borough Administrator of Monmoutth Beach on my resume Spooner. I was interviewed by an Employment Agency, our current Lieutenant Governor, Mayor, and the other Commissioner. I believe I was a very good Borough Administrator, and I use the Mayor, Director of Public Works, CFO, and Clerk as references. I love Monmouth Beach and the residents, and my leaving was my decision. I made a poor decision and I took responsibility for my action. I didn't hurt anyone, break any law, cause anyone else to do anything wrong, but I did embarrass myself. I still will use the Mayor and people of Monmouth Beach as a reference. I did respond to Ms. Kristin, Spooner! Her resentment is her problem, not mine. I would rather not start throwing stones, but I'm game! Now I'll grab a chair and loosen up my arm. Happy Halloween!
political analyst
10:57 am on Monday, October 31, 2011
Ryan- we get your point so why don't you just come out and say you are for Barrella and be done with it. you seem to fancy yourself as a political know it all but your defense of Barrella is growing old. you mentioned a dysfunctional council is the blame for all the controversy in town but who has told you this or do you attend meetings to see for yourself. i myself stopped going to meetings after Barrella was extremely rude to a resident that was asking him for an apology due to his comments at her. his behavior that night warrented a recall in my opinion. you keep referring to the recall as a negative thing and think it was unfair to Barrella but it is part of democracy.
political analyst
11:01 am on Monday, October 31, 2011
Corbally- many skeletons in that closet just open the door and the truth will come out. which party is he in again or does he just party
Mike Corbally
11:40 am on Monday, October 31, 2011
Neither "Party" locally! But here goes....... "I inhaled years ago"
political analyst
11:03 am on Monday, October 31, 2011
Walsh-i'm disappointed in Tim dropping out too because he would have won easily
political analyst
11:04 am on Monday, October 31, 2011
randi and occupier - i concur
political analyst
11:08 am on Monday, October 31, 2011
spooner- thank you and great job
Mike Ryan
12:01 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
@Political Analyst, Actually, I am in no one's camp... I DID mention that I was leaning to allow our mayor to actually serve a full term unencumbered by distraction, so that I could judge his accomplishments at the end of his term. However, my decision has not been made yet. My whole point is that a recall shouldn't be used in a case of "buyers remorse", which in this case it was, period. Any GOOD political analyst can see that. My feelings are the same that I had about the Clinton impeachment, and I have NO love for Clinton, but I feel that it was wrong, and he didn't deserve that distraction. I will add that the vitriol that many who ARE encamped on one side has soured me on their candidate through no fault of his own, so they aren't doing their guy any favors with the undecided vote. If we could empty council chambers and start with ALL new people, i'd probably vote that way at this point. And to answer your question, I have been to meetings, but i am a long time member of another organization which meets at the same time each month, so I am unable to attend most of the time. Of course those who disagree with someone else's point of view usually revert to the "Do you attend all the meetings" question. But you don't have to attend meetings to see what this town has become, which is sad to say the least. Friends of min who live in other Shore towns ask me all the time "what the heck is going on in the Beach" in a mocking tone.
Cathy Kelly
5:14 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Spooner,I am not trying to tell you any "big secret" I am simply stating facts....
Spooner
5:28 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Ms Kelly: the facts were stated in the April 7, 2011 patch article. . .Reid is a partner in the firm of Capital Public Affairs in Princeton. . . Any one could have Goggled the firm and learned what Reid does...
http://www.jerseycityindependent.com/2010/06/04/proposal-to-replace-jersey-citys-vip-diner-with-walgreens-enters-the-planning-pipeline/
Cathy Kelly
5:42 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Spooner,I see know problem in letting people know,just in case they did not see the article...Why do you have a problem with that?
Cathy Kelly
5:45 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
There are people that actually work and/or have time constraints so they cannot see every article,every day. It is public knowledge,I am just trying to make it easy to access the information. It is a good thing for people to be educated,I am not telling anyone who to vote for,I am simply asking people to educate themselves...Does that scare you?
Spooner
6:29 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Ms Kelly: if it was just information you were putting out there. . .I'd have nothing against that. . .but it was your coy remarks that followed: " that he motivates and shapes public opinion,and actively controls them to achieve desired results...if you want a lobbyist as Mayor than I guess he is your man but please do your homework before election time...
Cathy Kelly
6:47 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Spooner, I put out facts. Are you disputing the facts?I am a little bias when it comes to Mr.Reid because I have been on the receiving end of his lies. He has personally accused me of being a part of his conspiracy theory of paid parking. When I called him out on it,he said,"well I heard it from 2 different people" It was a blatant lie and I apologize for getting upset when someone blatantly lies when it concerns me. If you would like the emails sent to you,I will gladly forward them to you...I have always stated facts and only facts...I have a major issue with people that lie and try to deceive the voters..
Spooner
11:26 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Ms Kelly:don't dispute the fact that Reid is a lobbyist. . .link with WalGreen and your link said it all. . .The fact is political officials become lobbyist and lobbyist become elected officials. . .it's been going on a while in DC and the state house to some extent. . .You have a personal issue with Reid!. . .I've criticized him...I guess it was sometime beginning of summer, for running political ads in the Ocean Star, week after week... when it wasn't election time. I remember about the flyer being sent out. . .didn't comment on it because I thought the message got out there. Don't know why he did that. . .By the way he was doing that in the Ocean Star. . .commenting on the parking issue. . . as I recollect? Can't answer for his or his campaign staffs actions. . .They seemed to tone down. . .haven't seen their ads. . .
But with Lurie out, your faced with voting for Barrella or Reid. . .I've seen enough of Barrella and know his past outside of the Beach. . .which I will not go into here. . .I don't think four more years of Barrella is going to be beneficial to Point Beach. . .not that Reid could be any better...he has no government experience. . .but at least he's a lobbyist... deals with government officials. . .he has a way of talking with people(excluding you). . . and if he wasn't successful at what he does, I'm sure his firm would be out of business?
Kind of voting for the lesser of two nightmares. . .you've had one. . .will the other be worst. . .
Cathy Kelly
7:24 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
When Mr.Reid's flyer came out about paid parking, his running mates sent an email stating that they did not agree with it and the views were Mr.Reids ONLY and not his running mates...That says it all!!!!!!! I can send those emails to you also if you would like....
Cathy Kelly
7:29 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
That flyer was represented as if it were the whole ticket when in reality,it wasn't.. I give Mr.Mayer and Mr.Cortez alot of credit for coming out and standing up for themselves and not letting the Republican Club push them around..
Randi
9:10 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Cathy:
Nice to know you are giving creditability to Mayer and Cortiz. Be nice to elect people to council that have no problem standing up.
Cathy Kelly
9:18 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Randi, I always give credit when credit is due. I also only base decisions on facts not hearsay..unlike some on this thread..
Randi
10:13 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
I like your insight as to who to vote for. Nice to know you are supporting Mayer and Cortiz. Knew the road would rise up to meet you ! God mad blades of grass so Party Monica and "Puff the Magic Councilman" Corbally could hang onto something and not fall off the earth as it spun around.
Kristin Hennessy
10:05 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Mr. Ryan,
Your earlier example about the McDonalds coffee lawsuit made me laugh, because it's SO true! Sadly, that example illustrates how we have become a society where some people will not accept "personal responsibility" for their own behavior. Some find it easier to "blame others" for their actions or ineptness.
From my perspective, that is what Mayor Barrella always does. The Mayor is the CEO of the local government. He runs the meetings, sets the agenda, and sets the tone for the meeting discussions. It's now become part of his campaign platform to blame the "dysfunctional council" for his own shortcomings and lack of accomplishments. He will blame the Council, blame the recall, blame the residents who don't agree with him, blame the boardwalk, blame the County and State elected officials...the list goes on. But, with all due respect, the "blame game" is getting old and the Mayor is running out of people to blame.
Richard M. Nixon (1972) said it best during the Watergate investigation:
"The easiest course would be for me to blame others....but that would be a cowardly thing to do......In any organization, the man at the top must bear the responsibility. That responsiblity, therefore, belongs here, in this office. I accept it."
You are so right -- It's truly very sad to see the mockery our town has become during the past 4 years. I believe the reason is due to a lack of competent and effective leadership from the man who sits in the middle chair.
Cathy Kelly
10:39 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Kristin, who is playing the blame game. As far as I can see,Barella has not had one post on here. The posters that are calling it a "dysfunctional Council" are not signing on as Barella so you are taking it upon yourself to say that Barella is saying that. Is that correct? Also,I would love for you to answer my direct question whenever you get a minute...thanks
Charles Clark
11:23 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Kristen,
Who would you like sit in the middle chair? Just another Mayor that hides what is really going on in this town. Let's keep secrets from the constituents. It has been happening for years including your Father's tenured. Mayor Daniel Hennessy! You and few of your supporters aren't kidding anyone. You want to keep individuals on council to be puppets and a Mayor that controls the puppets to keep all the secrets from the residents who have been paying for many of the businesses here. You want an effective leader to continue to hide everything under the carpet. You want someone who is going to lie. If Mayor Barrella didn't inform the residents what was going on, we still would have no idea what all these local politicians have been getting away. That is your real problem with the Mayor, he refused to continue with the status quo of just going along with the Big Boys that our local politicians allowed all these year. The Big Boys were leading our leaders by the nose and we have been paying for it all these years.
Cathy Kelly
10:33 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Randi,
I have not once stated"who to vote for" and I did not say whether or not I was supporting Mayer,Cortez,Thomson,Gordon,Stifulssen,or Mazzola. Do not put words in my mouth or attempt to know what I stand for. I simply stated that I give them credit for standing up against a flyer that they did not agree with......Does not mean I do or do not support them.
the voice of reason
10:43 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
MONICA WALSH RUINED THE TOWN!!!
Charles Clark
11:27 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
If Monica Walsh ruined the town, so did Daniel Hennessy.
Bar-barella
10:50 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
@Randi...Cathy Kelly said in her earlier post that she "gave credit" to Mayer and Cortez for their stand on an issue. However, she is not saying whether or not she is supporting them. Quite frankly, her comments appear "Barellavent"!!! Divide, Conquer, Deceive and Win!!!
Cathy Kelly
11:17 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Randi,your comments are so ridiculous that I would normally choose to ignore them but considering how many people are reading these posts,I am compelled to respond. I simply gave credit where credit was due.Nothing more,nothing less. I am hoping that the people reading this will see how you distorted my comments for you to get YOUR opinion across...There is an easier way...you can just say..this is my opinion etc......you are not fooling anyone and quite frankly it is trivial...
Cathy Kelly
11:20 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
I must apologize Randi, I directed that at you and just now realized that it wasn't you but someone else who responded to you. I was wrong to direct it to you and again I apologize.....
Randi
11:53 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
Gee, I was trying to agree with you on an issue. Sorry but you are now a jerk ! If you want to be uninformed and fail to be able to read you should try to become a Democratic Councilperson or Independant candidate for Mayor. You sound like a perfect fit. Get someone to like your stand---Spin and Win !
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Fred Flinstone
11:23 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
I suspect the reason Barrella hasn't answered any questions on this thread is his Atlantic Ave. braintrusts have him strapped in a straight jacket over at Flip Flop Reality. Just a hunch ! Just sayin.
George Loder
8:44 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Fred,
Ya Ba Daba Do !!!!!!!!!. and please quote me
I guess George Jetson will be next .
George Loder
Atlantic Ave
Charles Clark
11:31 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011
I don't know why she "gave credit" Because they flip flopped. They said they were not with Reid on the issue and then they said they were. It is amazing how so many put a spin on issues.
Cathy Kelly
12:01 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Kristin,you are usually so outspoken yet when I ask if you would support a candidate outside of your club,if it was the right person for the job,you have yet to answer. Simply put again,If your club supports someone but there is someone better qualified,would you vote candidate or party. Again,Kristin,simple yes or no question....
Kristin Hennessy
10:28 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Mrs. Kelly,
I have answered your question with respectful and polite answers -- twice! Obviously, you'll never be satisfied with my reply.
Look -- I'm not sure why you are so concerned with who I would vote for in a hypothetical situation. Why does my opinion matter to you so much? I would never demand that YOU tell ME who you will be voting for.
Nevertheless, I'll make you a deal, OK? When I decide to endorse any candidate for office in the future, I'll let you know first. That way, you can publish my endorsement on your email hotline, and you can share the good news with everyone -- hot off the presses. Fair enough?
TaxedenoughinPPB
12:06 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
@Charles Clark..How can you blame Dan Hennessey. He hasn't been in office for 12 years and in your words "the mayor only breaks ties". Please explain your spin on this one.
Charles Clark
5:48 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
@Taxed, There is no spin. I thought you were smarter than that. I am quite surprised that you had the need to ask me. It does not matter when you were in office. Many in office including Dan and there after were looking the other way on issues with our town. The residents of this town should not have been paying for extra services from the very beginning. The councilmen puppets that let it all happened too. Most of them are in it together. Sure everything ran smooth, no one is fighting for the tax paying residents. Monica and Dan worked together, he persuaded everyone to see it his way. oooooooo, lets scare the tax paying residents that the BW businesses will go away and our taxes will go way up, so we let them do what ever they want. Sure that is who I want, protecting my properties, town and continually rising taxes. None of them had a backbone to stand up for the residents when they know a lot was being let go. When you don't look hard enough, you will never see it.
Denise Di Stephan
8:37 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
To "the voice of reason:" I have had to delete two of your comments because they contain unsubstantiated accusations, not to mention intimate knowledge of the contents of an alleged legal matter between two private parties that I doubt has been open to public perusal. As I said last week regarding someone else's comments, and the standard has to be maintained for everyone, please refrain from making these types of comments. Thank you.
the voice of reason
8:43 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Fair enough, but shouldn't the people know about these activities?
the voice of reason
8:47 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
And I will be happy to provide concrete evidence
Denise Di Stephan
8:49 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Dear Voice: Please email me at denise.distephan@patch.com and I'll be happy to discuss it with you.
the voice of reason
8:51 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Ok, I will contact you in the next day or so
Joan Vuocolo
8:34 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Cathy, you keep saying that you give credit where credit is due and that you state the facts. Let me ask you a question...are you simply stating your so called facts or those of Mayor Barella?
Cathy Kelly
8:50 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Joan,your ridiculous question does not even warrant my time but I will challenge you to tell me what facts are"so called" and not true facts?? Unlike you,when I make a statement,I can actually back it up,can you?
the voice of reason
10:06 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Bottom Line is that Mr. Lurie would be the only viable candidate to fix The Beach!! people like Corbally, Barilla and especially Monica Walsh, have done nothing but bring political gridlock and destruction to the democratic process!! Cathy your points are irrelevant, baseless, and extremely one sided!!! You must have the blinders on if you think your people are doing a good job! When you have a puppet, like Monica Walsh, who Gelson is telling her what to do behind the scenes. The only two people in The Beach tha stand to gain, are Gelson and Monica!!!!
Joan Vuocolo
9:45 pm on Thursday, November 3, 2011
Cathy, you said that my ridiculous quesion doesn't warrant your time.That seems to be your response to anyone that poses a question to you that you don't like. Yet, you seem to have plenty of time to continually badger people. Why don't you just stop the bullying tactics! I hope I said it simply enough, even for you!!!
Part Timer
9:49 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Your opinion,
If I start to video tape the council meeting's and add in a PIP (Picture in Picture) live Blog from the Patch, do you think a cable channel will pick it up for a reality show.
the voice of reason
9:59 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Bottom Line is that Mr. Lurie would be the only viable candidate to fix The Beach!! people like Corbally, Barilla and especially Monica Walsh, have done nothing but bring political gridlock and destruction to the democratic process!! Cathy your points are irrelevant, baseless, and extremely one sided!!! You must have the blinders on if you think your people are doing a good job! When you have a puppet, like Monica Walsh, who Gelson is telling her what to do behind the scenes. The only two people in The Beach tha stand to gain, are Gelson and Monica!!!!
Cathy Kelly
10:11 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Maybe you can be a little more specific,what comments are one sided and who are my people?
George Loder
10:56 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Voice,
For those of us in PPB who know all of the "inside baseball" in PPB politica we all know you are an outsider. Mr Gelson and Ms. Walsh have been political adversaties for years. My only comcern for you is Mr. Gelson will find you.
George Jetson
the voice of reason
10:18 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
You are way too in favor of Mayer and Cortez.. These are people that just dont care!!!
Cathy Kelly
10:25 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
I'm wondering if you heard that from the same two people that Mr.Reid talked to. haha
the voice of reason
10:19 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
I'd like to continue this conversation, but i have to get up early tomorow. I will be back on Wednesday around 9pm..Goodnight!
Cathy Kelly
10:21 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Kristin,It was a yes or no question,quite simple(even for you) AND NO,you did not answer,you typed your spin as always.......your opinion means about as much to me as your brothers' does,don't flatter yourself!!!!!!!
Kristin Hennessy
10:46 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Mrs. Kelly,
You asked me at least 5 times in this thread (maybe 6, but I have lost count) about my voting record and my preferences for candidates. Now, you suggest that my opinion doesn't really matter much to you. I'm very confused?
Spins? What spins? How would you define a "spin" anyway? An opinion different from yours?
Thank you for the dialogue, but I prefer the O'Reilly Factor -- It's a no-spin zone! That reminds me -- I missed the 8:00 program, so I'll need to go now, so I can catch the 11:00 showing. Signing off -- over and out.
fed up rez
10:38 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Cathy Kelly.... I'll be a little more specific for you !! Someone forwarded me an email you wrote on your email chain that degrades mayoral candidate Reid and you call him a liar with absolutely no basis. I remember last year Barrella and Corbally were running on the slogan keep the Beach the Beach. They were also spreading nasty lies about Mr. reid and Miss Arribito wanting to consolidate the schools. I am a parent of a child in the school system and was appalled at the flyer that Mr. corbally was handing out to parents as they picked up the kids from school with a panther on it and Barrela had his cronies within the school system who work there spreading the same lies. Meanwhile I personally spoke to Mr. reid and miss Arribito and they never had any intention of consolidation of the schools. Actually i was informed that decision would have to be made by the PPB BOE. I heard later that Mr. corbally bragged about spreading this rumor to get the mothers and fathers upset and get their vote. I have done my homework on this election and will not fall for any more threats from that side and now I hear Mr. Corbally is supporting Barrella and his running mates. So that makes up my mind right there. I ask you though, since you only deal with facts, who do you get your information from and do you find the lies in last years election unexcuseable and downright evil. These people played with the minds of parents that their children would be hurt. I'll wait to hear back..
Randi
11:00 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Cathy:
You are so fond of Puffer Corablly and his mentor Barrella. Did your children read on this patch where their Councilman Corbally admits to sucking on a joint? Nice leader for our town. Yesterday you joined the dope club !
Charles Clark
12:47 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
@fed up, That's funny, I heard rumors it was John Dixon that was behind putting that panther flier out and he was bragging about it? Now, I am really confused.
Cathy Kelly
8:38 am on Friday, November 4, 2011
I found the flyer that you are talking about and it WAS NOT SENT by Corbally and Barella. It was sent by the Democratic ticket of John Dixen,Morrengiello and Corbally. I have still NEVER seen a flyer from Corbally and Barella about school consolidation. Thats why I said I didn't see it. Barella's name was not on it,your statement lead me to believe it was Barella and Corbally.
Charles Clark
10:20 pm on Sunday, November 6, 2011
Randi, Like you never sucked on a joint.
Cathy Kelly
10:58 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Fed up,If you actually read the email,it would have been self explanatory but seeing how you need to hear it again,I will explain. Mr.Reid sent an email stating that I attended meetings to discuss a paid parking plan. I HAVE NEVER ATTENDED ANY MEETINGS. Someone who blatantly lies about me,in my book is a liar. That is my basis...He tried to continue his conspiracy paid parking with a flyer that his own running mates stated were his views only....As for Corbally,Barella and Arabito sending out flyers about consolidation,that has nothing to do with me. I am not or never have been running any campaigns for any candidates so your comments do not make sense. I have 2 children attending the schools also and I don't believe everything that I hear but I guess thats just me.
Charles Clark
12:50 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
@Cathy, Nobody believes anything they hear until it effects them personally, that is the way it goes.
Cathy Kelly
11:04 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Randi,
You sound so intelligent
Denise Di Stephan
11:09 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Hey Leo, Let's cool it with statements containing allegations of past or present criminal activity, as I have already said to other commenters. I had to delete one of your comments. In general, folks, let's please bring the name-calling and insults down to a low roar. Thanks.
Cathy Kelly
11:10 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Kristin,spin.#1..I did not ask you about your voting record. I asked you if you would open your mind if a candidate was better qualified but not endorsed by your club? YES or NO...See how simple it is...
fed up rez
11:18 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Cathy Kelly... you didn't answer my question. Don't dance around it. What do you think of Mr. Corbally and Mr.Barrella's tactic and lies to make the Antrim parents feel like Mr. reid and Mrs arribito would be in favor of consolidation of our school system ? Please answer that question and don't tell me you don't believe everything you hear. I'll await your response.
Cathy Kelly
11:20 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Fed up, I never saw the flyer so I really can't comment on it. I would love to see it if you have a copy of it.
fed up rez
11:31 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Ok fair enough you never saw the flyer but please answer the question. What about Mr. Barrela's lawn sign last year that said keep the beach the beach and the numerous letters to the editor that stated from Mr Barrella supportes and Mr. corbally supporters that Mr. Reid and Miss Arribito would consolidate the schools. Could you please answer my question about the tactics they used to scare us parents into voting for them. Do you think these tactics were ethical and morally wrong ? Just answer the question yes or no
M Brodeur
8:51 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
"Keep the Beach the Beach" was about not consolidating the building department...which was a proposed fiasco by a few of the sitting Council members. It had nothing to do with the schools.
Charles Clark
10:17 pm on Sunday, November 6, 2011
M. Brodeur, Majority of issues where proposed by a few sitting Council Members was a fiasco.
Cathy Kelly
11:37 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Again,I will say I did not see the flyer and I cannot answer based on what you are saying happened. Show me the letters to the editor and let me read for myself and I can answer your question. How come you never called them out on it? I get my information by going straight to the source with my questions. ....You said that you went straight to Reid and Arrabito,did you do the same with Barella and Corbally?
the voice of reason
8:10 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
MONICA WALSH IS A PUPPETT TO GELSON!!!
the voice of reason
8:13 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
And Corbally, Barilla and Walsh are owned by both Jenkinsons and Martells !!!! C'mon people, put two and two together!
sandinmytoes
10:11 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
Ms. Kelly, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. I see that Fed Up Rez has asked you twice about the flyer that was handed out at the Antrim school which put forth the notion that Reid and Arrabito, if elected, would try to consolidate the schools. I see, too, that TWICE you have posted that you did not see that flyer. On September 17, 2010, you attached that very same flyer to an e-mail and distributed that e-mail to your chain, which included not only members of the Council but also some members or former members of the BOE, including Ms. Thomson. Your e-mail states: "Please read the attached flyer...it was being handed out today by the Democrats running for office." You also wrote in that same e-mail "Great flyer, guys."
Cathy Kelly
10:59 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
Also,if I did send it out than it would have been sent to All the candidates on the list and they would have had the opportunity to dispute the contents. Thats the beauty of the email chain. Anyone can reply to all. Anyone can agree,disagree,state facts and dispute untruths. They have the opportunity to educate a few hundred people. It works the same for everyone. Like I said it was a year ago so I will have to dig them up but it should be interesting because I am sure there is alot that people have forgotten. Maybe everyone should be reminded. Just a thought.
Cathy Kelly
10:19 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
Sand,
Can you forward that to me. It was a year ago and I do not remember. I am sure that if I saw that flyer,I would have sent the candidates questions about it and found out what was true and what was not. I don't remember what every flyer said so I am assuming that you have it. Can you send it to ck618@comcast.net. I will gladly try to dig up anything and everything that I have on it. Sand,you constantly try to discredit me but you NEVER have anything to back it up. Please send me my email and I will post or resend EVERY email that I have pertaining to it. It probably will not be enough for you but I have nothing to hide and would love to relive last years election,If thats what you would like.
beachmom46
10:54 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
I also received that email from Ms. Kelly on September 17th at 4:43 pm. What is even more alarming is that our schools and children are being used in this campaign. Those who work in the high school and grammer school politicking should be ashamed of themselves. The board of education should look into this and report this practice to the state. This isn't the first time this has occurred.
Cathy Kelly
11:14 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
Again,I will ask for you to send me the flyer in question so I could read it and see exactly what it says. Obviously you guys still have it if you know what day it was sent on.
Cathy Kelly
11:21 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
Beachmom, I am wondering if you spoke to the school officials policking at school or if you just feel more comfortable stating it on a blog while hiding behind an alias??
Charles Clark
4:15 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
@beachmom, I totally agree on this view. The school students have been used all the way around in the past political campaigning by all sides. It has been a disgrace to have children worried about their future especially junior and senior bound college students. They felt the rug was being ripped under beneath them and couldn't totally understand why? How can they? When so many are lying to these kids from every side and angel. They should have never been dragged into it. Apparently many were plotting with in our town from what was spreading through out the community Including some town officials, local politicians,school employees,parents too. They should all be ashamed of themselves. Really, you think the board of education is going to admit to anything in anyway. Most schools are mediocrity because they have no accountability just like all the rest in the world. Poor kids! They would have to include themselves in this report to the state, do you really think they would do that, you would have so many lying and denying what was said, talk about spinning. Schools are extremely political.
Charles Clark
4:34 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
Cathy, Common, speaking to most schools doesn't do a darn thing. I would think, you are smarter than that. Most know and see what goes on in most schools today. The Beach is no exception.
fed up rez
11:20 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
Thank you sand and beachmom for clarification of my question. I know what I saw and its funny that Mrs Kelly made an attempt to forget about because she does not want to answer my question. I also see that Charles Clark made an attempt to blame Mr Dixon. I will ask both of them this time, was it right for Mr Barrella and Mr Corbally to lie to us parents about Mr Reid and miss arribito ?
Cathy Kelly
11:35 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
I WILL answer your question,I need to see the flyer. Is that too difficult for you to understand? Was Mr.Dixons name on the flyer or was it Barella and Corbally?
Spooner
1:56 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
@fed up rez: I would love to see Barrella and Corbally's reply to that question. . . that they lied to the parents. . .
Knowing petty much how politicians act. . .for one, there will be no reply here. . .and two. . .if Corbally replies. . ."they/we had no knowledge of what was going on". . .or we're not responsible for what other people(their campaign) does!
Politicans lie. . .and practice deception . . .they don't admit truth. . .until threathened with prosrecution. . . and put in jail. . .
Charles Clark
4:45 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
@fed up, I wasn't attempting to blame anyone. If you read what I said, it was going around town that former Councilmen Dixon and his running mates," don't even know who they were" handing them out at school. I don't know if that was true or not, maybe someone else on here would know better.
Charles Clark
4:49 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
@Spooner, Pretty much everyone lies including politicians. Welcome to the real world. I agree that they practice deception and most will not admit the truth.
sandinmytoes
12:27 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
Ms. Kelly, why would any parent feel that they could report this problem to the school or even need to do so when your e-mail stated that the flyer was distributed at the school and that e-mail was sent to the school superintendent, the school business administrator and the Antrim school principal? And, no, you did not send copies of that e-mail to either Mr. Reid's e-mail address or Ms. Arrabito's. Mayor Barrella seems to keep all of his old e-mails. Why don't you ask him to send it to you, as he was also included on that e-mail chain? Or maybe check with Councilman Corbally, Councilwoman Tooker, Mrs. Diaz or Mrs. Rudd, as all of them are also on that e-mail chain from September 17, 2010.
Cathy Kelly
5:34 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
Sand,you and beach are asking me a question on a flyer but Neither one of you wants to produce the flyer so I can actually see what it says..What a joke....
Charles Clark
4:59 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
@sand, I have to agree, anyone in their right mind would not report any problems to their school. Most know what will follow, complaints will either get ignored, denied or retaliation.
fed up rez
10:20 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
Mr Clark... I agree with you on your statement.
Cathy Kelly
5:32 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
Oh now I see, sitting around complaining anonymously is a better solution than actually trying to do something to fix the problem,,what was I thinking!!!
Cathy Kelly
9:06 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
Kristin,your silence speaks volumes. Joan still waiting for you to tell me what facts I have stated that are not true. You underestimate people and assume that if you don't answer,people will forget. You have called me out,I have answered and now I patiently await your answers.....
Cathy Kelly
9:19 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
Sand and beachmom, I will even go a step further for you. Since you do not want to show me the flyer,maybe you can just state on here,what was stated in the flyer that was not true,and I will do my best to answer the question....
fed up rez
9:21 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
Cathy Kelly... Are you for real ? You should quit while your behind because you have been called out and your only answer was a complete lie. You said you didn't see the flyer and in fact you sent it out as an email. You never answered my question so please stop wasting your time and everyone elses.
Cathy Kelly
9:32 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
Fedup(or coward hiding behind an alias) I said it was a year ago...on any given day I get 50 emails from the email chain,I don't remember every email from a year ago,,I have given you so many options to tell me what was on the flyer. You have not stated anything on the flyer that was not true...I am still waiting. You don't want to email me because of all the big bad wolves and the repercussions that you will have to suffer by stating your name so I made it even easier. I asked you to tell me what the flier said that was untrue...You have still not stated anything.....You still want to complain,complain and complain while you hide behind a facke name and you are asking me if I am for real????
Cathy Kelly
11:43 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
fed up,,,,,Again I will ask you to tell me what on the so called flyer was untrue???I am not asking you to divulge yourself(god knows with the CIA,FBI,Homeland Security and everyone else in PPB that would harm you if you actually stated your name)...I am asking you to tell me what on the flyer was untrue????I am making it so easy that a pre-schooler could probably answer.....What was the lie that you are questioning???
the voice of reason
9:32 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
cathy kelly seems to be a one sided argument. In fact she seems to be hiding the truth that she is just a plant by barilla.. her posts are illogical and only go to show, that she is on the take for mr. barilla, so she can get her cut!!
Cathy Kelly
11:05 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
Voice,
My only response to you is,you caught me, my take is so high that I am moving to Vegas and betting against your guy.....wish you luck....
Cathy Kelly
9:34 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
Sometimes you guys make it too easy!!!
the voice of reason
9:36 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
Its easy when we know the truth!!
the voice of reason
9:37 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
And the truth is you are Barillas' puppett!!!!!!!!!!how much is your salary with him?
Cathy Kelly
11:24 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011
Leo, are you saying that the quality of life has not been affected?I am assuming that you have seen the report from the Police Dept. So the fact that it has been the worst year in the last 17 years, Are you saying it is all a conspiracy????
the voice of reason
7:03 am on Thursday, November 3, 2011
Cathy Kellys only concern is being on Barillas Payroll !!!!
Denise Di Stephan
4:56 pm on Thursday, November 3, 2011
Leo and Voice of Reason: stop the accusations now or your accounts will be terminated.
Denise Di Stephan
7:21 pm on Thursday, November 3, 2011
Leo, I already told you: if you wish to discuss this, email me at denise.distephan@patch.com. I am not going to get into a back and forth on this here. Thank you.
JoeyBananas
8:54 pm on Thursday, November 3, 2011
Wow. there is NO DOUBT that there is a STORY here.
I hope someone gets it together and either substantiates the accusations
or deletes comments.
Cathy Kelly
10:32 pm on Thursday, November 3, 2011
Jehosaphat, it's hopeless. The people that are doing the accusing Never back it up!!!!
Joan Vuocolo
9:56 pm on Thursday, November 3, 2011
Cathy, they were probably riding their broomsticks!
Cathy Kelly
10:15 pm on Thursday, November 3, 2011
funny,someone else just said that same comment,what a coincidence. YOU STILL did not back up your statement. Keep up the great work....
the voice of reason
10:19 pm on Thursday, November 3, 2011
Censorship I see........American free Speech at its best!!!!
john baldwin
10:41 pm on Thursday, November 3, 2011
let's face it Cathy Kelly. The minute you said on here that you never saw the flyer and you did send it out through your email your credibility was shot. Now I would like to see denise call monmouth beach and get to the bottom of this fiasco people are blogging about concerning one of our councilman.
Cathy Kelly
10:45 pm on Thursday, November 3, 2011
John,I'm hurt that you feel my credibility is shot. I'm just wondering if you feel the same about the people making the accusations and cannot back it up?
Laura
10:47 pm on Thursday, November 3, 2011
I do believe if everyone had to use their real name, it would cut down on the utter insanity on here. I do admit it is amusing but, come one, you are all making the Boro look sane.
JFG
11:50 pm on Thursday, November 3, 2011
Wow. I didn't even know this stuff existed until someone called me today and said that Monica Walsh was my puppet! I just spent an hour reading this garbage. You all must be bored since Joe Bilotti and I sat this election out My observations --- most of you really need lives (including my best buddy Mike Corbally who everyone should know is a known animal lover and abhors their captivity) Those of you who don't use your names are cowards - or should I be pc and say "lack courage". Nah -- you are cowards. Monica was my "puppet"? She must be cracking up hearing that. We haven't been on each other's Christmas card list for many years - we never saw eye to eye on anything politically. Leave it at that. If she wants to support her old friend Mayor Barrella who cares - it's her right and I respect that. As someone who was Republican Municipal Chairman, President of the "first" Independent Republican Club, and Democratic Municipal Chairman - and ran 9 campaigns for R's and D's ( 4 wins 4 losses and 1 split for those keeping score) I will be the first to bear witness that in PPB the idea of party affiliation or loyalty (except for those who need the affiliation for oh say -- jobs?) is simply - stupid? You vote for the person in a local election. One thing I learned from my old buddy John Walsh - this is is an insiders game - 90% of the voters don't even know who is running. And "Voice" George Loder is right - if I do find you, I will get you!
miami hurricane
8:10 am on Friday, November 4, 2011
Ah yes the blog would not have been complete without a long winded retort from John Gelson. Do you even live in Point Beach anymore ? Don't flatter yourself because you couldn't hold a candle to Joe B. Remember, your the guy who ran Mike D's campaign against Vinny and lost when Vinny had a one in a million chance to win and you blew it. At least you admit being friends with Mike C., many wouldn't."Voice" don't be afraid of his threats because he is not all he thinks he is. Ding Ding, the bell has rung,many skeletons are still waiting to come out of the closet and those you are amung.
JFG
11:04 am on Friday, November 4, 2011
"Miami Hurricane"- ? That's real clever. Coward-- and idiot. Why don't you pick up the phone and ask the Tax Assessor where I live. Instead of telling others not to be afraid of me ( which was a joke) why don't you put your name out here and let's see whether you can take the heat. At least Corbally, Kristin, and Monica don't hide their identities. And by the way, the word is "among" not "amung". Fool
JoeyBananas
8:47 am on Friday, November 4, 2011
PPB needs an objective 3rd Party Investigator, whose recommendations have some teeth, or at least transparent follow up & reporting to the Public and a non local Legal
Ramification.
the voice of reason
8:48 am on Friday, November 4, 2011
JFG, Why are you denying the facts????
sandinmytoes
9:42 am on Friday, November 4, 2011
Ms. Kelly, I believe that when our elected officials see that false information is being spread about what the law allows the Governing Body and the Board of Education to do, they have a duty, as our elected officials to speak up and advise the public of the correct information. I think you had mentioned in one of your earlier posts that people have the right to speak up and refute something on your e-mail chain. Don't our elected officials (and BOE members are elected officials) have a responsibility to the public to let them know what is completely false in terms of the powers of the Council and BOE? As for the flyer which you've managed to finally find, the public is already fully aware that Barrella essentially ran last year's campaign with Corbally. Right before Election Day, there was at least one ad in the newspaper calling for the election of the "ABC" ticket....Tooker, Corbally and Barrella. Really, was anyone surprised that Corbally "jumped ship" from the Democratic Club in August in order to support Barrella? That deal was made last year.
Mike Corbally
9:58 am on Friday, November 4, 2011
Sandinmytoes, I look forward after to the election to asking you in person, "how do you sleep at night?" You know what you're saying is not true. Does the end justify the means? Get out of the bubble.
Spooner
1:34 pm on Friday, November 4, 2011
@Mr Corbally: It is true what 'sandinmytoes" states about the ABC ticket. . .it appeared in the Ocean Star Oct 29, 2010 edition, at the bottom of page 10,,, paid for by Max Gagnon, 304 Parkway Ave. . .does that refresh your memory . . .I don't understand how you could say it's not true. . .
Did the Ocean Star contact you about the ad to get your permission for Mr Gagnon to use it. . .considering the fact that your name appeared in another ad in the same edition on page 6 with different running mates. . . where the logo pointbeachdems.com appeared on the right side, about half way down the ad. . .you were running as a Democrat I gather. . .do you recall?. . . and you were on there for Council with a Morrongiello as your running mate. . .who they say here. . .his name was being removed from your signs. . .was that true?
...and what does this have to do with: " You know what you're saying is not true. Does the end justify the means? Get out of the bubble"?
Mike Corbally
2:58 pm on Sunday, November 6, 2011
As a fomer employee, and one of the few insiders, you know your accusations are false.
Mike Ryan
9:52 am on Friday, November 4, 2011
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Mike Corbally
2:58 pm on Friday, November 4, 2011
Spooner, no about ABC, no about OS, only one sign that I know of, but people will make up what they want, so have at it.
sandinmytoes
3:35 pm on Friday, November 4, 2011
Councilman Corbally, what part of my comment is untrue? Spooner has already specified the ad I was referring to. Ms. Diaz also posted it on a Facebook Page (Point Pleasant Beach politics?) last year. Are you denying that you were aware that there were members of the public who were promoting an "ABC" ticket last year? Did you do anything to discourage that promotion and try to persuade people to instead vote for your running mates, Dixon and Morongiello?And since you decided to respond to my post to Ms. Kelly, and since you are an elected official, how do you feel about receiving e-mails that clearly spread falsehoods about what the law allows and what the proper powers are of the Governing Body and BOE in PPB? Do you feel that such elected officials have a duty to clarify the law or is it okay for them to just keep their mouths shut and allow the public to be mislead? I don't sleep very well at night. I'm too worried that the bullying that is going on in our town, especially the bullying tactics employed by some of our elected officials who don't seem to remember that they owe a level of courtesy to all voters and taxpayers in PPB, not just the ones that agree with them or suck up to them for political favors.
Spooner
5:38 pm on Friday, November 4, 2011
@Mr Corally...so your saying that Mr Gagnon did this on his on with your permission. . .I think you used the expression: "make up what they want" Must have been a strong supporter. . . to lay out all that money for a full page ad. . .and the Ocean Star didn't contact you . . .before they went ahead with the ad. . .you say?
This Mr Gagnon seems to have had an issue with the Storino brothers about five years ago ...
http://law.justia.com/cases/new-jersey/appellate-division-unpublished/2006/a4626-04-opn.html
... and sued the Point Beach Mayor, Town Council, and Board of Adjustment. . .which he then appealed. . . after Court ruled in favor of Defendants. . .and then the Appellate Court reaffirmed the lower Courts decision. . .
More recently: he complained about hotel businesses: "Max Gagnon, Point Pleasant Beach: spoke about collection of illegal dumpster garbage at hotels – accused one hotel owner of doing work without permit – said Council is not collecting what’s coming to us and expecting tax payers to make up the difference."...May 4, 2010.
So it appears that Mr Gagnon choose to support you, Mr Barella, and Ms Tooker, , , and not your Democratic running mates, because in his view. . . you and they were not siding with, or supporting the beach businesses. . .specifically Jenkinsons and the hotels. . .
john walker
5:40 pm on Friday, November 4, 2011
Let's someone have it ? Jfg sounded like my 3rd grader.
the voice of reason
10:15 pm on Friday, November 4, 2011
mr. corbally, have you applied for a special events permint, for the shindig being held at the mayors house this sunday????Can you produce your paper work??? Dont think so..ONCE AGAIN WE ARE CALLING FOR YOUR RESIGNATION!!!!!!!
Mike Corbally
3:23 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Is "permint" a candy? I will certainly file an application when I have a "shindig"!
the voice of reason
1:19 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
still waiting for proof, mr. corbally.......ONCE AGIN, WE ARE ASKING FOR YOU RESIGNATION!!!!
Mike Corbally
3:14 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Voice, What are all of you cowards going to do after Tuesday? Hopefully, show up at the Council Meeting on November 22, state your name, address, and once "agin" ask for my resignation. Enjoy your the last few days of attention.
George Loder
5:44 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
In the Asbury Park Press today there is an article discussing Lurie's withdrawal from the Mayor's race. In PPB we knew he quit on October 27th. Lurie let the Ocean County Democrats know on Thursday November 3rd. Mr. Lurie has disenfranchised the voters who may have cast a vote for him via mail. Their votes are sadly wasted.
In today's mail we received a mailer from Tim Lurie endorsing Steve Reid. IS THIS GUY KIDDING? If you take a look at the flyer you will see on the front page that it was paid for by the Reid campaign. It appears in the smallest print possible. These flyers cost about $1200 to mail out and they take time to prepare. This is another proof source that Mr. Lurie has taken the voters of PPB for a ride. Lurie had no intention of finishing the race. Why are the Republicans and Democrats aligned? Just "connect the dots". Why would anyone in PPB support what Tim Lurie supports?
Lurie has no credibility left. Please vote "All Three in Column C" Barrella >Thomson>Gordon. George Loder
Kristin Hennessy
10:00 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Mr. Loder:
WHO are YOU kidding?
You stated: "Why would anyone in PPB support what Tim Lurie supports?" Really?
As the Republican Club's Municipal Chairman in 2008, YOU actively courted Tim Lurie to run for Council as a Republican and as a member of "Team Barrella/Loder/Diaz" (back then -- the 3 of you used to refer to yourselves as "The Trinity").
I have a 2008 email from you titled "Loder Message", whereby you stated: "GOP Team....We have our candidates picked out and in place...I'm very excited about the Republican ticket of Tim Lurie and Jay Reynolds....I'll be taking the candidates out to dinner this week, so that we can begin discussing this year's campaign platform."
Mr. Lurie was later elected as a Democrat Councilman in 2009 -- top vote-getter with 1000+ votes. But, now when it's for your own political interest and benefit, you seek to discredit this man? Why?
Kristin Hennessy
7:04 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
I had to take a break from the Cabbage Patch. But, upon returning and sifting through the 450+ comments on the 2 most recent PPB articles, I realized that an important question has NOT been answered. So, I’ll ask it again – Point Blank.
Mr. Corbally,
Did YOU stand on Niblick Street, outside the Antrim School, at dismissal time, and distribute an offensive flier full of down-right lies – to parents who were picking up their children on September 17, 2010? That flier – depicting a raging Black Panther devouring a Garnet Gull – with red blood spurting out of the gull’s body – which was deliberately intended to mislead the Antrim School parents into believing that some sinister plan for school consolidation with Point Boro was actively in the works?
Mrs. Kelly,
Did you then distribute an electronic copy of that flyer to everyone on your email chain – whereby you added your comments: “Great flyer, guys”? Furthermore, on your e-mail chain, I noticed the names of almost ALL Board of Education members, including Mrs. Phyllis Thomson (currently a candidate for PPB Council), Mr. John Ravally the School Superintendent, and Mr. Brian Savage, the School Business Administrator.
Kristin Hennessy
7:06 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
I was so disturbed upon hearing about that flyer and the incident that occurred on school grounds, that I attended the October 2010 meeting of the PPB Board of Education. In search of the TRUTH and the FACTS, I asked all BOE members, Mr. Ravally, and Mr. Savage the following 3 point blank questions:
1) Does any such plan for a school consolidation between Point Beach and Point Boro exist?
Their answer: a resounding ABSOLUTELY NOT!
2) If that allegation is false, then WHY did the School Administration allow this activity to be conducted near school property (where children were present)?
Their answer: “We didn’t know it was going on.” (At which point I replied: ‘Oh, that’s very refreshing – that the School Administration isn’t aware of what’s going on when children are being dismissed from school’.)
3) WHY did recipients of the aforementioned email, including Mayor Barrella and Mr. Corbally who ran their 2010 campaigns on the premise of “anti-consolidation”, REFUSE to speak up on the email chain and refute this false and preposterous allegation?
Their answer: Well, after a lot of “hum-ina, hum-ina, hum-ina” – they basically stated that they didn’t have an answer for their mute silence.
Kristin Hennessy
7:07 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
You see, Mrs. Kelly – Your email chain has actually revealed itself for what it is. A venue for supporting the candidates you like – and attacking the candidates that you don’t – despite the FACT that there is a whole lot of deliberate and purposeful misinformation being spread about by YOU and your supporters on that email list. I hardly believe that you are “objective” in light of this information. I hope you realize that you have compromised the integrity of some elected officials and government employees who you’ve placed in a very precarious position – by putting them on your email list without their permission. It’s no wonder that some school officials have since been removed from your list. I’m sure they now realize that you have created a forum which lends itself to spreading “conspiracy theories”, and quite possibly, potential subsequent legal action.
Cathy Kelly
8:00 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Kristin,just starting to read your long winded responses,yes the flyer in question was sent out by me,yes did I think it was a great flyer,I still do. I will post the flyer which contains no lies. The flyer I was asked about said to be Barellas and Corballys. The Dems. Flyer I totally agree with. It would not have been a far stretch considering how many back door deals and closed meetings were held between your brother,Dyer etc..with Sue Rogers from the Boro....The Boro made it loud and clear thatt Sue Rogers was done,just as the Beach would have done with your brother,,,fortunately for him,he withdrew...
Kristin Hennessy
10:21 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Mrs. Kelly,
I'm astounded that you're still defending your part in the dissemination of that nasty flier full of lies. You actually have the chutzpa to defend it as being a "great flier" -- that you "still think is great" and you "totally agree with" -- despite the FACT that the Board of Education, the PPB Superintendent, and the School Business Administrator have all clarified the school consolidation myth as a conspiracy theory; and they've dismissed the allegation as a vicious rumor that was NEVER in the works in the PAST, and NEVER will be in the FUTURE?
You know full well that any decision about school consolidation lies solely in the hands of the Board of Education; and NOT the Mayor and Council.
So, why are you bringing up my brother again -- trying to deflect your animosity onto him and Mr. Dyer -- when in FACT -- it was Mr. Reid and Ms. Arrabito who you accused loud and clear in 2010, and you sought to make THEM the targets of your consolidation conspiracy theory. You call that truthfully "stating the FACTS"?
Spooner
11:47 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Ms Hennessy: what makes you think he's going to answer your question. . .it might sound trivial. . .but I asked Mr Corbally(D) about Max Gagnon's flyer in last years Ocean Star supporting him with Tooker(R) and Barrella(I) on page 10. . .while Corbally(D) was in another ad on page 7, with Dixon(D) and Morrongiello(D). . .
He denied having any knowledge of what Mr Gagnon was doing. . .and was not contacted by the Ocean Star to get his permission. . .for Mr Gagnon to use his name and picture. . .
Mike Corbally
7:23 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Ask Mr.Dixon on the flyer. Were you at Frank Rizzo's house when he last called in by phone?
Kristin Hennessy
10:33 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Councilman Corbally,
I don't wish to ask Mr. Dixon anything, because quite frankly I'm not interested in HIS answers. He's not an elected official representing the people of PPB. You are --and you were seen on Niblick Street on September 17, 2010 handing out the nasty, deceitful fliers to frighten the school moms and dads. And you had the nerve to ask someone on this thread "how do they sleep at night"?
Kristin Hennessy
10:53 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Councilman Corbally,
As to your question about Councilman Rizzo, the answer in short is "No". I already explained that to you in-person the night of the Council meeting that you've referred to.
I explained to you that I had stopped at Councilman Rizzo's house on my way to the Council meeting to see if he needed a ride to the meeting, since his original illness had left his vision critically impaired, and therefore he was unable to drive. It was simply a thoughtful gesture on my part. Albert Varosi was there when I knocked on Councilman Rizzo's door, and Mr. Varosi evidently went running to the Council meeting to tell you that I was at Mr. Rizzo's house. There's just one problem with Mr. Varosi's conspiracy theory from that evening. I was sitting in the audience at the onset of the Council Meeting and for the ENTIRE meeting, WHILE Councilman Rizzo was participating in the meeting by phone. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you might not have been paying attention close enough to have seen me sitting in the audience.
Interestingly, prior to the meeting when Councilman Rizzo phoned in, you had supported Councilwoman Tooker's desire to attend meetings by phone, but you later changed your mind I guess when Councilman Rizzo did it? You know that I had voiced my disapproval of "teleconferencing" on a number of occasions, I was even quoted in the Ocean Star. Nevertheless, it's a non-issue now that the Council has banned that ridiculous habit of Ms. Tooker's.
Cathy Kelly
10:54 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Mike,I am still confused of what the lies were....
Cathy Kelly
8:13 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Kristin,can you let me what officials have been removed from my list? ?Also I know your upset the the hennessey(with a Y)name will no longer be able to control the town,GET OVER IT. YOU ARE DONE!!!!!!Residents have been educated...Your lies,spins,and control is in the past...Hope you can find something to do with your time but it will not be controlling PPB anymore....And just for laughs you still have not answered my question,would you vote for a better qualified candidate not endorced by your club....still waiting for the answer to a question your repeatedly try to dodge....
Mike Corbally
1:00 pm on Sunday, November 6, 2011
Kristen.
You and Sean must not have compared notes that day. You had different stories. Yes, I feel the phone policy was being abused that night, and felt moving forward to eliminate any appearance of abuse would be a positive. When the meeting started you were sure to sit in the front row, so you were hard to miss. Enjoy your day.
Kristin Hennessy
1:34 pm on Sunday, November 6, 2011
Councilman Corbally,
Is everything a conspiracy theory with you and your allies?
I don't need to compare notes with anybody. I already told you that my offer of a ride to the Council meeting to Councilman Rizzo was nothing more than a considerate and compassionate gesture. If you saw me sitting in the front row at the meeting that night, then WHY did you bring this up in the first place and suggest that I was at Councilman Rizzo's house while he was on the telephone? That doesn't make any sense to me.
Anyway, as I've already said, I join the many residents and taxpayers who are satisfied to see the "teleconferencing" habit abolished by the recent passage of the ordinance that prohibits that practice.
Cathy Kelly
8:15 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
oh typo,sorry Hennessy.........I know how politically correct you always are...
Cathy Kelly
8:17 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Also Kristin,if you wanted to be put on the email chain,all you have to do is ask,it saddens me that you feel left out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cathy Kelly
8:21 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Kristin,would you like to tell everyone what misinformation is being sent out....Again,you are making accusations(how surprising) you are a self proclaimed upstanding resident and voice of the people,can you specifically state what was misinformation...or is this just another empty comment....
Peter Pan
8:58 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
So , let`s see if I have this right...Lurie realizes on Oct. 26 that he`s too busy engineering to continue his run for mayor, but, not too busy to be a councilman. However, if you are not reader of the Patch,you don`t find out about it until Nov. 5 when you see it in the APP or get the flyer in the mail...10 days later!!!! What a joke and what a cruel trick to play on those who have voted for Lurie during that 10 day window via absentee. I was actually going to vote Reid, Mayer, Gordon. Now, Barella, Mayer, Gordon. This has all been orchestrated by the boardwalk and if Reid wins,wait til we see the prize awaiting Lurie`s engineering firm.
robinhood
9:47 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Hi peter, why would Lurie dropping out change your vote from Reid to Barrella. That makes no sense. Don't blame it on poor Mr. Reid. Why were you voting Reid, mayer, Gordon. Why not Cortes. Andy is a great guy and has point beach roots. Gordon has a short temper.
Cathy Kelly
10:46 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Kristin, again I will try to be as simple as I can...I have a copy ofthe flier and I know that you do to. You state it was a nasty flyer full of lies... Quite simply,can you tell me what was nasty and what lies were stated? There were none!!!!!Answer the question ans stop playing Holier than thou...I have no problem with the flyer. The natural progression(again Sue Rogers,closed door meetings) after the courts,Building Dept,etc would have been the Police Dept and the schools so I am going to ask you POINT BLANK...what are the lies in the flier????Your a teacher,I'm pretty sure even you can answer....Everyone questions what happened to benefit our town but God knows what could have happened if your brother and Rogers got away with what they wanted to do. So the question should be,what was prevented in the last couple of years...unfortunately for you,there were people paying attention..Again,just state the lies in the flier,
Kristin Hennessy
11:27 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
OK, I'll just state the lies in the flier for you -- THERE ARE NOOOOOOO PLANS FOR SCHOOL CONSOLIDATION with ANYONE ELSE!!! Not THEN, not NOW, not EVER!
Except for -- Of course....what the almighty Democrats in the State of New Jersey have already imposed on us in the form of the "PPB/Mantoloking Consolidated School District"....and that occured in July 2009 under whose watch? Oh, that's right....it was under Mayor "anti-consolidation" Barrella's watch! Interesting that -- the Mayor of Mantoloking was fully engaged in that particular consolidation process, and yet Governor Corzine snuck that clever little maneuver in upon us here in PPB, when Mayor Barrella wasn't "minding the store". Financially, the PPB taxpayers got the short end of that stick and got taken to the bank on that deal. Yet, Barrella will still maintain that he's all about fighting for the residents and the taxpayers. Question is -- which residents and which taxpayers?
Spooner
12:05 am on Sunday, November 6, 2011
Ms Hennessy: you people in the Beach got ripped off with that merger. . .The Board of Ed and the Town Council should have forced the same Court ordered agreement that they imposed on Loch Arbour...
http://law.justia.com/cases/new-jersey/appellate-division-unpublished/2011/a3136-09-opn.html
. . .Dave. . . one more of your Mayor's accomplishments?
Joan Vuocolo
10:48 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Cathy, what a coincidence. Someone else thinks the same way I do. Ha, ha! Go figure!!!
Cathy Kelly
11:26 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Joan,thats a scary thought....
Charles Clark
10:06 pm on Sunday, November 6, 2011
Joan, Go figure? Where r u from? You must be from up North.
Cathy Kelly
10:51 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Kristin,would you vote for a candidate better qualified but not endorsed by your club? Just keeping track of how many times you are asked this question(I believe it's been about 7-10 by now)and how many times you refuse answer....and you claim to be an upstanding resident.....just saying...
Kristin Hennessy
11:35 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
It's none of your business WHO I vote for, and that is the 7th time I've told you that. Your repeated badgering makes you sound like a bully.
See -- now wasn't that an easy answer?
Mike Corbally
10:57 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Kristen, Mr. Dixon was on the top of Democratic ticket in 2010 and I believe the Democratic campaign mamager this year. Were YOU at Councilman Rizzo's house when he called into the last meeting he attended?
Kristin Hennessy
11:44 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
I already answered that question about Councilman Rizzo. See my post at 10:53 above.
Peter Pan
11:09 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
This has been planned by the Lurie, Reid, boardwalk triumverate for months. I`ve come to not not trust Mr. Reid. As far as Mr. Gordon`s temper,that`s a story fabricated by Bilotti because Gordon stood up to the bullies at a Republican Club meeting. Bret Gordon is nothing but a gentleman and his resume is really impressive.As far as Point Beach roots go, those presently on council with Point Beach roots have been a disaster, including Mr. Riorden as borough attorney.
Cathy Kelly
12:15 am on Sunday, November 6, 2011
Mr/Mrs Riordan aka Sandinmytoes...........
Sean Hennessy
11:17 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Mrs. Kelly,
I have to question your latest blog about me. Can you produce one single fact or statement where I said I wanted to consolidate our schools ? Please produce the facts if you have them. What closed door meetings ? Yes we tried to share services with Point boro with the building dept. and it would have saves the Point Pleasant Beach taxpayers roughly 250,000 thosand dollars. If that shared services agreement was completed then we would have had 0 days of furloughs for any employees in 2011. Mayor Barrella was the driving force against that agreement. As for closed door meetings, I guess you did not attend the council meeting when councilman Dyer presented a power point presentation about the shared services plan pertaining to this agreement. Your assumption about the schools and police dept go without merit. As my sister stated, a merger of the schools would have to be done solely by both towns board of education's. The town council has nothing to do with the schools decision to merge. As for the PD merging with Point Boro, something that substancial would have to go to a referendum of the people from both towns in my humble opinion. So again I ask you, please produce to everyone that is reading these blogs any written facts that there was a plan to merge with Point Boro school system on my part. Thanks.
Cathy Kelly
11:40 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Sean,let me try to explain your spin...did I say you wanted to consolidate the schools or did I say that I agreed with the flyer that said it would be the natural progression after the courts and building dept? Are you seriously trying to say that you did not have closed door meetings with Sue Rogers and that there were not emails sent to certain Council members pertaining to those meetings. Are you saying that the whole Police Chief/Director did not fit into the plan......Sean,please lie about this because it would give me so much pleasure to put the emails out there....I said that you,and certain sitting council members have had closed door meetings with Ms.Rogers about merging certain aspects of the Beach. Are you denying that. Remember I have emails from your once ally Joe.B.so I am trying to make it as simple as possible for you because even I at certain times,have some compassion but if you want to put it out there,Im game...
Sean Hennessy
11:23 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
I can't believe I am actually about to agree with John Gelson but yes I agree. People should have to put their real names up to post something on this blog. It would definitely be interesting to know who is posting about who and why.
Cathy Kelly
11:45 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Sean,who are you kidding,you know who they are....stop already
sandinmytoes
11:41 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Peter Pan, there was a letter to the editor from Lurie and an article in last week's Ocean Star. And, in case you didn't notice, there was a nasty flyer that came out from the Barrella camp attacking Lurie last Thursday. Lurie told people that he couldn't attend the Mayor's forum due to work and got attacked by Councilwoman Tooker, who seemed to feel that everyone who had been invited should've been able to re-arrange their schedules to attend. Easy for her to say considering she works at the school and probably gets out of work by 2:40 pm every day. Really, it's amazing that more people who run for office don't drop out of the race based on the types of nonsense that goes on here. I'm sure even Barrella would tell you that being Mayor is more work than being a Councilman, not that he would personally know since he was never a Councilman.
sandinmytoes
11:48 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Mr. Loder, really, how much time does it take to prepare a flyer and get it into the mailboxes? I received that Ciesla mailer on Thursday, and got Barrella's response to it today, 2 days later. So, if Barrella can get something in our mailboxes in 2 days, what's so odd about that Lurie mailer that arrived today? The guy quit the race 9 days ago. I find it funny that the Independents have Democrats and Republicans (after all, Tooker is still a Republican Councilwoman and Corbally is a Democratic Councilman) working with them, and that's okay, but for some reason a Democratic Mayoral candidate quits the race and supports a Republican candidate, and that's a problem? The Independents have been telling people for months that it's time to put party politics aside. Does that only apply to them?
Sean Hennessy
11:56 pm on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Mrs. Kelly,
I'm not connecting your points. Was I in favor of a police director. Yes. Was I in favor of a building dept shared services agreement. Yes. How do you come out of that with a school merger ? Or a PD merger ? By hiring a police director does not mean we wanted to merge our PD. And you can send any email you have to whoever you want, I know what I said. I am in laughter that you would still bring up a cut and pasted email as proof, we all know who doctored that email. If I were you I wouldn't go public with that as proof.
Cathy Kelly
12:11 am on Sunday, November 6, 2011
Sean,are you actually accusing me of cutting and pasting an email? Just want to set the record straight,thats why I have always been a proponent of getting it in writing. Is that your defense,that the email was cut and pasted(doctored)is that what you are saying?
Cathy Kelly
12:01 am on Sunday, November 6, 2011
Kristin,what was stated in the flyer that was a lie???....simple question,all you have to do is repeat the words in the flyer and dispute them,,,we(believe it or not)do not want your opinion,as a matter of fact could care less about Your opinion....state what was said in the flyer that and than state why it is not true.....
Cathy Kelly
12:05 am on Sunday, November 6, 2011
correction,just state what was not true...hopefully Nov.8 will be the end to the Hennessy(with a Y) control for good.....................
Sean Hennessy
12:17 am on Sunday, November 6, 2011
Leo, I'd hate to tell you but you don't even have to include the early bar closings to that scenerio. Take a ride down to seaside tomorrow and look at what their town looks like with all the signs all over the place. Can you imagine what two or three signs per block on each side of the street is going to look like in the entire town ? How about the cost of the signs and the extra cost of enforcing this plan. Our police chief already said he doesn't have a clue how this can be enforced. Where will the tourists park ? Let's face it, if this referendum question passes and Barrella gets re-elected with one other person who agrees, the town will turn into a disaster this summer. It won't take 2 years.
Spooner
12:28 am on Sunday, November 6, 2011
Where does Ms Kelly get her facts from . . .when it comes to school consolidation. . .she appears to be spreading fear that has no basis in fact. . .
Unfortunately: for political expediency they have bought derision amongst families there, and concurrently with their political officials. . .I believe your sister had touched on that from a different perspective. . .
David Cavagnaro
8:22 am on Sunday, November 6, 2011
The referendum is nothing more that an opinion survey. It cannot legally bind the Council to do anything. Whatever the Council may do in the future, if people don’t like it, they will come out in large numbers to object, as they did with paid parking on streets. I understand why the Boardwalk doesn’t want to hear what the people think, but why are some members of the Council afraid to hear people’s opinion? I hope the referendum is an overwhelming YES vote from the people.
When Belmar closed the bars earlier, the rental market did not collapse and hotels didn’t go out of business or flood the schools with their winter clients. Property values actually increased and quality of life improved. The Council eventually allowed the bars to return to later hours. So now who’s trying to frighten people with doom and gloom?
beachmom46
8:44 am on Sunday, November 6, 2011
Mr. Cavanagro - I believe this parking plan referendum leaves a lot of questions unanswered. I noticed a comment on either this blog or one of the others about county roads. I went on the county website and Pt. Beach has quite a few of those roads. They will not allow permit parking. What happens if you live on one of those streets? Its seems that whoever gets elected needs to do some research.
Sean Hennessy
12:30 am on Sunday, November 6, 2011
Cathy,
Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't accuse you of that. I said I know who did it and what email address it originated from. Yes it was cut and pasted and certain names were whited out. Different emails between Mr. Bolotti(a taxpayer) and myself were distorted into something that wasn't true. If you would like to sit down and discuss these emails I'd be more than happy to. But please admit that you forwarded these emails from your email address without checking into their authenticity first. Remember, your always the one saying you go straight to the source to find out the facts and you don't judge.
David Cavagnaro
8:57 am on Sunday, November 6, 2011
Beachmom, Again, the referendum is a PUBLIC OPINION POLL!. Cannot be legally binding! It is NOT what the Council will or even may do. All of your concerns and others should and would be dealt with IF the Council does in fact draft any type of parking plan. Some people keep trying to make the referendum much more than it is. It’s a town wide opinion survey and nothing more.
Cathy Kelly
7:07 am on Sunday, November 6, 2011
Spooner,you once again seem to be making things up. I am not spreading Anything about school consolidation. I simply stated what was in the Dems flyer last year..
Spooner
12:47 pm on Sunday, November 6, 2011
Ms Kelly: that's not what I'm reading here. . .now Ms Hennessy confronted Mr Corbally about handing out flyers on Niblick St. . .and he never responded. . .and you cannot be a facilitator of false information. . .that still makes you a party to a law suit. . . . so before you send out emails. . .you should verify the truthfulness of what is said. . .now unless you could show me in law where that is written. . .consolidating schools, like Beach and the Borough. . .That's a false statement of fact. . .
Mike Corbally
7:27 am on Sunday, November 6, 2011
Those damn "D"s, or is it those damn "R"s ??? Where is an official score keeper when you need one???
Mike Corbally
7:33 am on Sunday, November 6, 2011
The "I"s Have It !!!!!!
the voice of reason
9:18 am on Monday, November 7, 2011
Yes fiduciary responsibility, MONEY PASSES THROUGH YOUR HANDS!!!! Thats fiduciary!!
Charles Clark
3:45 pm on Monday, November 7, 2011
leo and voice must be friends. Take off you Rose color glasses because you really need to get your stories straight. They are not even close on what really happened or what is going on. You should watch all the accusations that you insinuating. You are the ones who can get hit with the law suits. Be careful boys, you know what can happen when you spread lies. They could backfire and be directed to you.
john Baldwin
3:59 pm on Monday, November 7, 2011
Interesting dialogue here. I'd like some of these accusations looked into as a taxpayer. If they are true then the elected officials should step down. I have to ask a question about the beautification committee though. Is it true that the meetings are held at a private residence and alcoholic beverages are served while the committee discusses ideas. Alot of problems could come from this practice. Is the mayor aware of this ?
Ronan Caffrey
4:28 pm on Monday, November 7, 2011
What a load of crap I am reading! How many IDIOTS can you fit into a 1 square mile TOWN of PPB? Ask me! OVERWHELMING numbers! WOW!
Peter Pan
7:39 pm on Monday, November 7, 2011
Excuse me, Voice....I just called CVS and your medication is ready .
Peter Pan
10:49 pm on Monday, November 7, 2011
Sorry, Voice. You`re no match for me. I refuse to match wits with an unarmed man. By the way, that would be two, not to. Good night.
Darlene Motto
9:21 am on Thursday, November 10, 2011
Voice, Who are you? Why should anyone show you concrete evidence.... Showing you, that you are wrong? Come forward and bring it to the town council other wise stop making false accusations because it could be dangerous when they prove you wrong who ever you are? You continue to complain about issues, including attacking our boys football team. Stop hiding behind your alias name......that usually have so much to say. I would have to consider you a coward if you can't come forward with all your accusations, complaints and opinions.
Darlene Motto
10:17 am on Friday, November 11, 2011
Voice, You call what you have facts? You are the one who does not know what they are talking about. I am not at Liberty to say in reference to what happened in Wall Twp. that involved Several Teachers Aides other than Wall Twp. loss, unless of course you want to be an added person to that suit, being you think you know so much. There is a time in your life that you are not going to just go along with something that is Wrong in your opinion. There is not enough money or a job in the world that can be thrown at me to keep my mouth shut when something is so wrong in my opinion. All I am going to say there is many out there who is willing to look the other way to keep their jobs. Just look at all the Penn State leaders that so many looked up to and what they have been getting away with. Well I am not one of them. I would have called the police. Sorry, but to many abuse their power in different ways and they get away with it, but eventually it catches up to them as In Penn State. It will come out, to bad no one was willing to protect those young boys. Voice, Do you even live in Point Beach? As a taxpayer and resident of this town, I have every right to question what you have posted because I have not seen any facts only accusations that you don't seem to know what you are talking about. I was at the town council meeting and if you where there, you would know why the town gave a $5,000 check to the Chamber. The town did not want to do the Holiday event any longer.
Darlene Motto
10:19 am on Friday, November 11, 2011
error< Wrong in my opinion!!
Darlene Motto
10:32 am on Friday, November 11, 2011
Voice, The problem in the world today is many lack ethics and morals. To many look the other way, especially those in power. Some are willing to lower their standards in exchange for a job, money , special treatment, they do not care how many they are willing to take down with them in the process as long as they and their families are taken care of. It is the "Double Standard" and as long as it does not affect me and my family, who cares attitude. They are just worrying about themselves. Everyone will claim, it is happening everywhere, and that might be. But it does not make it RIGHT! I am not willing to lower my standards, for any one.
Darlene Motto
2:44 pm on Saturday, November 12, 2011
Voice, Lastly, You are the one who should not comment unless you know what you are talking about. There is no big secret that I was a teachers aide. There is no big secret that I had issues.... I would not allow certain individuals to control me. To keep quiet when something is so wrong in my opinion..... Perfect of example of what happens.... Again, look at Penn State. I am not willing to look the other way and I had no problem telling them, unlike you Sir or Madam hiding behind your name pretending you are afraid. I have plenty of letters to back it all up and I had no problem putting an article in the paper too, if you would like copies just let me know where to send them to you. I worked their for quite a few years, they admitted their guilt and had nothing against any of us. My file was clean.... But, to bad I can't say the same for them. You should really be careful of all the accusations because you will slip up one of these days and it might just cost you. There is a big difference of seeing something with your own eyes or hearing something with your own ears or even an opinion.
the voice of reason
5:08 pm on Saturday, November 12, 2011
Ms. Motto, you're comparing a teachers aide in Wall, losing their job, to what happened at Penn State?? No wonder our town is such a mess!!!
Darlene Motto
6:32 pm on Saturday, November 12, 2011
@Voice, The point is to many are covering up issues, a lot of issues, the bigger the school is, the more there is in my opinion. When it comes to kids, nothing should be covered up in my opinion. It should not happened at all, so yes I would. That is the difference between you and me. There is nothing worse in this world for a helpless children to be taking advantage of. But I am guessing, you really don't care enough on what is going on in the world. All the excuses and many are in denial including yourself with that ignorant statement. Hopefully you don't have kids or grandchildren or are you one of those, as long as it does not affect me. Who cares!
Joan Vuocolo
11:57 pm on Saturday, November 12, 2011
@Charles, astute observations!!! I never tried to hide my roots. If you look at my previous posts, I said that I hailed from North Jersey and moved to PPB year round in 1978. There's no pulling the wool over your eyes, you are just too clever!!! Go figure!!! By the way, where are you from? Were you born and raised in PPB? Just asking...
Joan Vuocolo
12:11 am on Sunday, November 13, 2011
@Cathy... I know, it is a scary thought,isn't it! By the way can you please add me to your elite e-mail list. You know my first and last name. I'm sure you know the proper format to e-mail me at work... you know where I work! Thanks, I look forward to hearing from you soon! Joan
Cathy Kelly
5:18 pm on Sunday, November 13, 2011
Joan,first let me say that if you think you are insulting me with th "elite"comment than you should know that you are insulting the few hundred people that asked to be on it,including yourself haha. second,I am not sure that I can figure out how to find your email,it's too complicated for me so maybe you can just email me and ask to be added as everyone has done,and i will gladly add you. I would never want to be accused of sending emails to people who don't want them,not that YOU would ever do that.....
PPB Mike
8:35 am on Sunday, November 13, 2011
Voice - I think it is now time for you to go bck to the place with the padded walls and "special" jacket they like you to wear. I hear they are serving Jello tonight! If you hurry...you can get to the front of the line!
Joan Vuocolo
9:49 pm on Sunday, November 13, 2011
@Cathy...First, let me start off by saying that you are way too defensive!!! Not every post is meant to be derogatory. I was simply asking to be a part of your e-mail chain. Some one on a previous post referred to the e-mail chain as being "elite". It's that simple! I thought that since there are a few hundred people on your e-mail chain I might gain a better perspective as to what is happening in our town. After all, you invited Kristen Hennessey (with a "Y") to join the e-mail chain, so I thought that anyone could ask to be on it. How wrong was I? Considering your attitude, I decided that I don't want to be a part of your group. You are definitely lacking social skills!!!
Cathy Kelly
10:08 pm on Sunday, November 13, 2011
Joan,I do not have the time or energy to go back and forth with you. If anyone wants to go back to all of your comments,they will see where you are coming from. It is not a secret.....Stop twisting and spinning.........If I lack social skills than I guess thats something I will have to work on. You see,I have no problem with that........I told you,if you would like to be added,I will add you,all you have to do is send me an email...It is that simple but it seems that you are counterproductive and just like to stir the pot.....
Joan Vuocolo
10:49 pm on Sunday, November 13, 2011
Cathy, I realize that you are quite busy and don't have the time or energy to go back and forth with me, yet somehow you manage to do so! You are an amazing woman! You underestimate yourself! You certainly know how to manage your time. I would be more than happy to give you my e-mail address. You said all I have to do is send you an e-mail, however I don't have your e-mail address. If you would be so kind as to provide me with it, I will immediately forward my e-mail address to you so that I can become a part of your e-mail chain. Thanks for allowing me this opportunity. It means a lot to me!!! Please excuse me, but I've got to go... it's time for me to stir the pot!!!
Cindy Lu
9:55 pm on Tuesday, November 15, 2011
the voice of the brainless , nobody pulls my strings. I don't know a Barilla. You know who, should resign NOW. Tim Lurie, he has no time, between hanging up at the bars at the Boardwalk and his engineering business and Jeff Dyer does business with the boardwalk, no big secret. He got that gig after he became councilmen. HMMMMMMM....... He is useless to the Point Pleasant Beach residents. He had how many businesses that went bust? True and Facts! They both need to resign. How many times were you reported? The writer of Patch had to warn you how many times? That is FACT!
Cathy Kelly
10:45 pm on Tuesday, November 15, 2011
Joan,I left my email address on your board so you can email me and I will gladly add you to the list.... The funny thing is I have NEVER attacked you or the Boardwalk yet you seem to have been on the attack since day one. By the way,I kept all the posts.I know that I stand up for what I believe in but you have been just down right and nasty....I can't tell you how many emails I received stating that they never saw you that way and believe that it was just politics,,,.so,I would be more than happy to sit down with you and try to bring this town together and put our differences aside for the betterment of the town. I have no problem admitting faults, Can you???
Joan Vuocolo
8:05 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Cathy, thank you for leaving me your e-mail address,but after careful consideration I have decided that I do not wish to be a part of your e-mail chain. You said that you stand up for what you believe in, so do I. It is quite obvious to me that you and I see things differently and that's okay. After all, not everyone agrees on everything. However, we do have one common goal and that is to make Point Pleasant Beach the best it can be.You accuse me of being on the attack since day one and being down right nasty...the same could be said about you. You also made reference to
e-mails that you have received about me. I too have encountered individuals giving me input about you. So where does this leave us? The only thing I can say to you is to continue to take a stand for what you believe in, I know I certainly will. By the way, I respect anyone that posts on this blog and uses their real name. Anyone can hide behind an alias and make excuses as to why they feel the need to do so. How unfortunate for them. As far as having faults, don't we all!! No one is perfect, that's why we have erasers on pencils!!!
John Wayne
11:40 pm on Tuesday, November 15, 2011
I am back, boy did I miss a lot when I was on vacation..... Voice of Reason, I would have to say with all the post that you submit, you definitely have some problems and a few screws loose. You don't expect to get back lash from the community when you are picking on the boys football team. Maybe you are the one who should be packing your bags, AND MOVE OUT OF TOWN. I would have to agree with cindy on this one, after what Tim Lurie did, he should RESIGN. JEFF DYER AND SEAN HENNESSY should have resigned a few years ago too!
Spooner
10:02 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Ms.Di Stephan...you wrote: "Any comments purporting to guess the true identity of someone using an alias, or accusing someone of using a particular alias, will be deleted."
...I hope this applies to the politicians and their supporters here. . . who use veiled threats and intimation. . .when they get perturbed by somebody's retort to their post?
JIMMYJACK
5:41 pm on Sunday, November 20, 2011
Amen Spooner! And just because someone uses an alias, does not mean what they are saying isn't true... They just want to protect themselves. If ms. Di Stephan wants to hear some real goings on, have her call me, and everything will be substantiated!
Denise Di Stephan
10:24 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Your post is going beyond the scope of my original statement, "Spooner." Again, any comments that contain accusations that a particular person is using a particular alias will be deleted.
John Wayne
5:54 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Voice, To bad, someone let you out of your cage! You are one twisted dude!
John Wayne
7:30 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
leo, If you think Mike Corbally needs to be investigated, then the entire town needs to be investigated. Let's start with former councilmen Rizzo and Cervino and current councilmen Hennessy, Dyer and Lurie and then she can investigate Mike Corbally. Then we can investigate all the former Mayors and then we can Investigate Barrella. How does that sound, being you keep on wanting Mike Corbally investigated for something that has nothing to our town. Then do not stop there, investigate the Boardwalk while you are at it. You are just a ridiculous person along with voice. Two peas in a pod.
Cathy Kelly
9:12 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Joan, Well said,I agree totally....Have a nice night!!!
John Wayne
7:27 am on Friday, November 18, 2011
leo, you should go to town council meetings or get all the minutes from prior meetings. Find your own answers instead of asking everyone else for them. Maybe you can ride your bike their. Just like you did through out the summer through the town, claiming there was not QOL issues.
monica walsh
11:57 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011
As we approach Thanksgiving, I would like all of those who continue to make negative remarks on this website to consider how lucky we are to live in this town and enjoy the many benefits associated with this privilege.
Many hurtful comments have been registered on this site in the last three weeks. Some of those have been directed toward me: the most horrific being that I'm John Gelson's puppet (which even he declaims as laughable since we agree on nothing) to the assertion that Dan DiCorcia and I aren't best friends (he'll be at my house on Thanksgiving and I assure you that "voice" won't be there).
To doubt the professionalism of Denise Di Stephan, the editor of this site who is well known as a renowned journalist with the Asbury Park Press for many years, is despicable. And to call for the resignation of Dave Cavagnaro from his non-paying job on the Beautification Committee is beyond belief.
The election is over and three good men were elected to office. Instead of throwing barbs and innuendoes, let's be pleased that we have dedicated persons about to assume office January 1 and, aside from some naysayers who appear regularly on this site, many great people live in this town. Happy Thanksgiving! Monica Walsh
Cathy Kelly
7:46 pm on Sunday, November 20, 2011
I agree,it is time to move on and make PPB the best it could be. The election is over,the people have spoken...let's move on in a positive direction.....
JIMMYJACK
11:40 am on Sunday, November 20, 2011
Censorship on this page , i see!!!
Cathy Kelly
7:47 pm on Sunday, November 20, 2011
I will say again,hiding behind an alias makes you a full fledged coward....end of story!!!!!
JIMMYJACK
8:38 pm on Sunday, November 20, 2011
And Jimmy is my real name, Im just giving you my last name!!!!
Cathy Kelly
9:50 pm on Sunday, November 20, 2011
pathetic...