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The Two Chris Smiths

There appears to be two US Representative Chris Smiths (NJ 4th District) much like there are two Mitt Romneys. There is the responsive and the non-responsive Chris Smith and there is the privately extreme and the publicly moderate Mitt Romney.

In a letter last week a writer, apparently a Republican, wrote about Chris Smith responding to her request while she was visiting the Republican Headquarters. From that incident she extrapolated that he had a world of wonderful characteristics. Other people (and the press) have made similar extrapolations based on Smith’s involvement in a few high profile cases (e.g. the Goldman matter.)        

Of course then there is the non-responsive Chris Smith. Obviously, as a Democratic candidate, I have heard hundreds of stories from unhappy constituents about Smith’s lack of responsiveness to their issues and communications. But there are many more public examples. You can go online to Youtube and find a video of people visiting his office after having been frustrated with his complete lack of responsiveness to their inquiries.  An obvious and very public example was Smith’s feigned ignorance about the biggest publication in his district writing stories about the biggest problem (education) in the biggest town (Lakewood) in his district.

He then further claimed that he didn’t get the phone calls from the publication about the story. Similarly there was a story last week in another publication about their great difficulty in contacting and arranging an interview with Rep Smith which, after it had finally been arranged, he then no-showed for. And, despite being publicly criticized in previous campaigns for not participating in any public forums or debates, he has no-showed for all of the town hall meetings that he has been invited to so far in this campaign. Apparently responding to the public or media generally is not one of his wonderful characteristics.

On other issues two Smiths also appear.  Rep Smith publicly proclaims his interest in overall human rights, not just abortion. But a look at the specifics of his words and actions seem to belie that protestation. In the 1980s Smith (and Rep Dick Cheney) voted against a Congressional resolution to free Nelson Mandela from prison. In the 1990s he voted against the Women’s Equal Rights amendment specifically because of its effect on abortion. In the 2000s Kenya spent extensive efforts and several years revising their 1969 Constitution to include freedom of the press, an independent judiciary, a permanent human rights commission, and other important safeguards.

The Constitution was approved by 70% of the people and the process was almost unanimously acclaimed as a model for the rest of the world. Yet Rep Smith accused President Obama and his administration of criminal activity for supporting that process since the Constitution contained a woman’s right to abortion in the case of rape, incest, or health. Most recently he has been very public about China human rights. But his principle and very specific concern has been the Chinese abortion policy. Most of his other rights activities revolve around this same abortion issue. 

Similarly Gov Romney expresses public affection for all people and private disdain for many. He has publicly espoused his support for, and the importance of, education and privately said he intends to eliminate the entire US Department of Education. His different positions on topics as varied as the Blunt Amendment (contraception) and gun control leave people scratching their heads. On some issues Romney has had so many different positions you wonder if he is a victim of multiple personality disorder.  Even his home based Salt Lake City Tribune said there was too many Mitts and endorsed President Obama.  

Smith’s public relations issues might not be so bad if they didn’t come at the cost of even worse public policy. He opposed Obamacare, voted for the Ryan Plan (privatizing Social Security, voucherizing Medicare, and devastating Medicaid), supported still more tax cuts for the wealthy, and made the Norquist pledge never to raise those taxes. Since those are similar to the Bush era polices that he supported (and that got us into this great recession) perhaps that is the one area where he has, unfortunately, been singularly consistent.

In any event, we certainly have at least one too many Rep Chris Smiths.      

Bob English

3:01 pm on Sunday, October 21, 2012

Mr. Froelich.....are there any debates scheduled between yourself and Rep. Smith?

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Brian Froelich

3:27 pm on Sunday, October 21, 2012

He hasn't shown for any of the several previously scheduled town halls. (He did appear at the Asbury Park Press editorial board interview but that was a private session.) Some people are trying to schedule another but I don't think he has responded yet. (At least I haven't heard that he has.)
Brian

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Bob English

11:08 am on Monday, October 22, 2012

My two cents worth... the voters in the district are entitled to hear both candidates who are asking for support, debate the issues in front of an audience at least one time and it should be more than that since it is a large geographical district. Mr. Smith may have been in Congress for 30+ years but he has not represented much of the realigned district before....those voters in particular are entitled to see both candidates debate the issues they are concerned about.

bd

10:08 am on Monday, October 22, 2012

saw one of your signs next to a Ms lbgtvlmnop on a lawn or i wouldn't even know who you were---and like her, will be driven back into obscurity in 15 days.

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bd

2:02 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

lf a gun was placed to my head and told to vote for a Dim, my answer would be 'pull the trigger"

bd

10:07 am on Monday, October 22, 2012

Elephants don't trifle with gnats...............

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Beth Ann

10:07 am on Monday, October 22, 2012

Chris Smith's radio commercials make me cringe. He boasts that he is an advocate for veteran's wives. Well, talking to a few veteran's wives in my district, his offices do not return their calls, they refuse to address issues for veterans who need immediate care, and he has cut veterans programs. It is no wonder he was kicked off their commission. This video sums up his feelings on women. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kMzwXXlbdI

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John Jay

10:24 am on Monday, October 22, 2012

Beth Ann, you have posted a bold lie about Congressman Smith's work with Veterans. The New York Times, of all sources, prove your comment is a lie:

"WASHINGTON, Jan. 6 - Representative Christopher H. Smith's removal as chairman of the Veterans Affairs Committee by the House Republican caucus drew strong protests on Thursday from veterans' groups that praised Mr. Smith as unwilling to toe the Republican Party line.

"The Republicans needed a chairman who would consistently say no to veterans' groups and say yes to the Republican leadership," said Richard B. Fuller, national legislative director of the Paralyzed Veterans of America, which has about 22,000 members and is based in Washington. "That meant get rid of Chris Smith."

"Mr. Smith, a longtime New Jersey congressman who frequently clashed with party leaders over budgetary issues, wrote 22 veteran-related laws during his four years as chairman and advocated improvements to the G.I. Bill, increased spending for the veterans' health care system and the creation of new loans for young veterans seeking to buy a house.

"Removing a chairman is not only unusual, it's unprecedented," said Dennis M. Cullinan, national legislative service director of the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States, which has about two million members and is based in Kansas City, Mo. "Mr. Smith had two years left in his position before he was term-limited out."
(Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/07/nyregion/07smith.html?_r=0)

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Beth Ann

4:08 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

I am telling you about these women who have been ignored. This article is from 2005. What about today? What has he done to help the backlog of patients who cannot get care at VA hospitals?

Brian Froelich

2:31 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

It is nice that the NY Times gave him a plug but here are the actual facts.

Smith actually wrote 11 veteran laws (not 22) during his 4 year term as Chairman. [The 12 laws are on his website. One of them was written before he was chairman and is essentially only a resolution] That number is about average for the head of that committee. Most of those laws were routine annual bills to adjust benefit levels that are authored/renewed every year by the committee head.

Second, (and as per the NYTimes and many other articles) He got fired for shooting his mouth off and embarrassing Secretary of Veterans Affairs and the administration.

Smith was sent to Washington by constituents (and assigned to the committee) to represent them (and help veterans) and to work with whatever administration was in place. As committee chair his role is to lead and influence the committee and administration. After 20 years he was finally given a leadership role and was fired after only 4 years. Does getting fired from that leadership position help veterans or fulfill his role?

Businesses often hire people to be client representative to represent the company with the client. If the client said that person had publicly embarrassed them and wanted him removed, that person would be fired- not called a hero.

In fact Smith’s actions, insults, and obstructive behavior even today are exactly what is wrong with Washington. And he should be fired!

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John Jay

3:44 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Sorry Brian Froelich, I am going to do something I never did before -- I am going to side with the New York Times. They paint a much more accurate picture of how Smith was not going to be pushed around regardless of who was in the White House (Pres. Bush).

I will take a man who stands on his convictions and helps his constituents regardless of the consequences any day. That man is Chris Smith.

There is no way you can win the debate Mr. Froelich. I can look up Smith's record for the past 30 years -- I have even met with people who worked with him BEFORE he was in Congress too.

They all say the same thing: The man is works hard and remains true to his constituents. That's all there is to it.

I can't vote for you because I know that you'd support the "Obama-Bigger-Government" tax and burn policies that steal my money and rob me of my liberty.

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Steve

8:27 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

"Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, an Illinois Republican, took away the gavel after Smith stood firm in support of increased veterans’ health care funding in the face of demands by Bush and GOP leaders..." (CQ Press Politics in America 2012). Brian this really sounds like 'shooting his mouth off.'

He must really hate Veterans so much that he risked his chairmanship for them by wanting to increase funding and benefits. He must be so unAmerican that he wants to work for and care for our nations bravest heroes. Is that right Brian? I see a few weeks until the election and your starting to seep into amateur hour

Geoff Dubrowsky

2:33 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Just over 17 years ago my son was born and about two and a half years later he was taken from us and replaced by a child that look the same but had no speech, no eye contact, and no affect. Autism in its most regressive form had changed his life, my wife’s life and mine forever. We were not strangers to developmental disorders having a niece and nephew in similar situations but we were strangers to the heartbreak and despair we were suffering but refused to be over taken by it. My dear bride set out on a life long journey that continues today to help heal our child, not cure him but heal him since Autism is a sickness. I set off to look for help, to better prepare others like us and to provide for a greater understanding on this soon to be recognized epidemic.

Realizing that I would be unable to fight this battle alone, I sought out others in my situation and then together we realized that we all needed a stronger and more caring voice with greater power yet equal passion and with luck we found him, a U.S. Congressman named Chris Smith.

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Geoff Dubrowsky

2:33 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Now I am one who prior to this cynically uses the term Congressman as a punch line and while I still may for many members of the House it is Chris Smith that packs the real punch. When it came to listening to the issue of autism he was all ears and when it came to listening to the crying father he was all friend.

For the past 15 years I have had a friend in the US Congress in Chris Smith, someone who I could proudly say was not just my Congressman but was America’s Congressman. He will take positions unpopular within his own party despite what retributions would come. He fights for the veterans he represents, he fights for the seniors he represents, he goes into foreign countries and frees young ladies visiting their grandparents and he reunites son’s with their fathers taken from them by foreign Countries.

Watching that political crisis unfold with the Brazilian Government made me proud and sad because I knew That Chris was doing everything for that father and for me to reconnect us with our sons but sadly my situation even he cannot fix. However everyday with a wonderfully dedicated and bright staff he is fighting to make the world a safer and better place for my son so one day when they put me in the ground I can be a piece knowing my son is safely being cared for.

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Geoff Dubrowsky

2:33 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

We are different in our political views in some ways but when it comes to those issue’s we also find common ground. Chris is Pro Life and I not but that difference is our greatest bind. I believe that to be pro life you must be willing to support and educate to the best of our abilities those who need help, so does Chris Smith and his voting record on Special Ed Funding and the IDEA Act prove that. Too many Pro Lifers do not care after someone is born,,,, Those words do not care are never part of any conversation I have had with any about Chris Smith. He has even as recently as last month, supported me in an on going debate I am having with Gov. Chris Christie, over the future of my child ands those of my sister’s children who passed last June leaving them in my care.

If you are lucky enough to have a Congressman like Chris Smith Treasure It! He is rare in today’s world not just in politics!

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Brian Froelich

2:56 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Geoff,

First let me say that I am glad that Chris Smith and many others are working to cure diseases like Autism and others. And I don’t try to negate any of the positive things that Chris Smith has done.

But he is not alone or unusual in that regard. And in fact that is what he is supposed to be doing for the District constituents. Using Autism as an example, he is one of 131 members of the Autism Caucus. On recent legislation that was authored by a Democrat from Massachusetts he was one of over 200 co-sponsors and the law was passed by 100% of the House members.

I also have a record of providing outstanding service to millions of the most demanding customers here and around the world. That service ranged from providing private planes for the wealthy to changing bed pans and diapers for the helpless elderly.

But on the big public policy issues Chris Smith has simply been wrong. The spending and debt that he has helped authorize over these many years can’t be ignored.

Finally I hope your child is benefiting from all the good work going on in the Autism field. I will keep him/her and others in my prayers.

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marylou

5:38 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

bd,as Mr.Dubrowsky stated,autism doesn't often present until a child is about 2 yrs.old,so your comment is stupid as well as inappropriate.

Geoff Dubrowsky

3:17 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

bd

Not sure who that comment was made toward but I am sure both Brian and Chris are as happy as my wife and I are that our child is alive, Not an appropriate comment here sorry!

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Beth Ann

4:58 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

I flagged it for you, Geoff.

No HOPE. No SOLUTIONS.

3:26 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

I am pro choice. I choose to not pay for someone else's abortion or contraceptives.

If they want to have an abortion, keep the child or use birthcontrol, that is their choice and they can pay for any of their choices.

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Geoff Dubrowsky

3:56 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Wish people used real names it would make for more intelligent conversation. Would you be willing to pay to help keep a disabled child alive?

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marylou

5:50 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

No Hope.Who wants you to pay for it?These things should be covered my a woman or families health insurance,for which almost policy holders pay for a good portion of the premiums themselves,if no the entire premiums.

Jonathan Lipnicki

4:06 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

I agree with John Jay who has posted a million times on the patch about it - eugenics is the way to go.

I am definitely pro-choice and I think the commentator above is correct. These "pro-life" people run around trying to keep free abortions and contraceptives out of the urban areas but then they complain when we have to deal with the welfare and crime! SHOW ME THE MONEY!!

I would definitely help support a disabled child but as we become more technologically advanced and are able to detect birth defects in utero we should definitely do the child, parents and society a favor and abort. I don't want to hear any nonsense. People who claim that these disabled people have meaningful lives are full or it, cruel or just plain selfish. No able bodied person would switch placed with a mentally retarded person and live the so called "meaningful life."

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Beth Ann

4:09 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Geoff, I did not know Merrick, NY is in our district.

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Geoff Dubrowsky

4:29 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Beth Ann Good Point I have no idea why I log into the patch on the few occasions that I do as Merrick NY. I know where it is and used to have friends there but I am a Jersey Shore guy just goggle me. Also serve as a volunteer on the state council for Developmental Disabilities. Sad that some here wish my son dead:( Not Mr. Smith Even though my boy doesn't speak much he is happy and like to ride horses work sometimes in Pet Co and loves to swim. His life has meaning to him and to me his mom and those who meet him. Very disturbing perhaps time for me to sign off. Again nothing against Merrick NY but I do not live there!

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DICK MOSKOWITX

5:26 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

back to basics... chris smith is against abortion..for privatizing social secuirity .. and changing medicare to a voucher program .. his veterans chairmanship firing happened when walter read exploded... he apprropriated 2 million to the lakewood orthodox special schhol ..... 30 years is too long for any elected official
yelad

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Bob English

6:01 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Interesting give and take by everyone. It's too bad that the voters in the district have not been given the opportunity to hear both of the candidates debate/discuss the issues face to face.

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Hank

7:01 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Stopped reading after first sentence ("there are two Mitt Romneys"). Figured the article was one big factless plolitical jab.

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John Jay

5:59 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Here's the debate, Bob English: To what degree does Froelich=Obama?

I say a vote for Froelich is a vote for Obama.

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Brian Froelich

12:34 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

The right answer is that a vote for Froelich is a vote for Froelich.

I support President Obama and hope that he wins. But I will support whoever wins and try to help them be successful (improve the economy and reduce the debt) - then we are all successful. I don’t owe anyone anything and have been independent all my life. My record is successful and public.

The strategy of Smith, Ryan and many other (not all) Republicans have been to insure that Obama fails, not that the people win. That record is also public.

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Hank

9:13 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Mr. Froelich,

To support a candidate (Obama) that has raised the national debt from $10 trillion to $16 trillion in less than four years and claim to be for reducing national debt is laughable!

Steve

3:02 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Brian Froelich openly aligns himself with a "9/11 Truther." Brian advertised for a fundraiser with actress Christine Ebersole, a woman who has repeatedly claimed that 9/11 was an inside job. Her words are despicable and by fundraising with her Brian you insult me and all of the thousands of individuals who lost their lives on September 11th 2001 INCLUDING the 147 people from Monmouth County, and 17 people from Ocean County.

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Brian Froelich

9:58 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

First, I happily and openly admit that Christine Ebersole and her family are old, dear, friends of mine and I admire her and her husband for many reasons. Her politics are her business. She was gracious and generous in her willingness to support my fundraiser and I proudly accepted her personal support. I have no need to explain my friendship with her and her family to you.

Second, your attempt to establish some kind of guilt by association and then to do it in the name of the victims of 9/11 is beneath contempt. And, as such, I am happy to have insulted you in any way possible. (It was apparently easy.) But please don’t presume to speak for the victims of 9/11. I suggest that you just go back to your birth certificate search or watching Fox.

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NJarhead

10:54 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

But I'm intrigued Mr. Froelich. Do you believe 9/11 was an "inside job?"

Brian M.

11:37 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Mr. Froelich

In response to another poster, you wrote the following: "But on the big public policy issues Chris Smith has simply been wrong. The spending and debt that he has helped authorize over these many years can’t be ignored."

As a new member of Congress should you win, your most important vote will be to put the Democratic leadership in control of the House. When the Democrats last had control of the House, they engaged in a multitude of grossly irresponsible spending initiatives. Given that you'd be voting (I'd presume) to hand the House back over to your party's leadership, how can you possibly be credible in arguing that you're the more fiscally responsible party in this race? It's well and good to say that you'd vote for or against this particular piece of legislation, but it seems to me that the single most important vote you'd cast in your term would be one for trillions of dollars in debt and cooperation with one of the most fiscally irresponsible administrations in American history.

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Brian Froelich

8:05 am on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Brian,
Thanks for your good question. But the inference in it is that all Democrats are irresponsible and all Republicans are not. In fact Republicans (and Chris Smith) have also been irresponsible with much of their spending and policies. (In fact that is, at least partly, how we got here!)

My role in Congress will be to work with whatever party is in control (and each individual legislator and administrator) and to try to convince them to take responsible actions (fiscal and otherwise.)

For example, I support the bi-partisan Simpson Bowles Plan (SBP)- Paul Ryan and my opponent do not. I believe that there are enough good people in Congress (both Democrat and Republican) to accept that reasonable and moderate approach to our problems. My job is not only to vote but to productively lead and influence. I believe that my record is pretty strong in those areas.

[PS Based on the nationwide polls, and even if I am elected, it is not likely that the Democrats will retake control of the House.]

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Brian M.

1:16 pm on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Mr. Froelich-

"Thanks for your good question."

Thanks for getting back to me.

" But the inference in it is that all Democrats are irresponsible and all Republicans are not."

No, the inference is that the Democratic Congressional Leadership is notoriously irresponsible with the public's money, and that were you elected you would vote to give them back control of the House.

"[PS Based on the nationwide polls, and even if I am elected, it is not likely that the Democrats will retake control of the House.]"

Irrelevant. I might just as well say in response to the rest of your post that Congress is unlikely to pass Simpson-Bowles whether you're elected or not. It's true that one Congressman doesn't decide everything, but your votes matter, and voting for who gets to control the House is the single most important vote you'll cast in your term should you win.

Brian M.

11:51 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

In response to Steve you wrote the following:

" Her politics are her business. She was gracious and generous in her willingness to support my fundraiser and I proudly accepted her personal support. I have no need to explain my friendship with her and her family to you."

With respect, sir, evidently her politics are *your* business as well if you're accepting and even advertising her support in your fundraising efforts. It's not her "personal support" that's at issue, but her material and financial support to your campaign. Do you see the difference between those two things? I can assure you that most people reading probably do. And yes, you do have to explain your public life and the people in it if you want to ask people for their votes and for their support. If you don't want to answer questions about your public associations and where you're getting money to fund your campaign, might not Congress be the wrong place for you?

Given that you're not a known quantity to many of the people of the district you're seeking to represent, do you think it's unfair for people to judge you at least in part by your voluntary associations (particularly those with people whom you openly say you admire)? Growing up I always learned that the company we keep reflects for better or worse upon our character. What do you imagine this particular personal and political association says about your character?

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Brian Froelich

8:43 am on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

J'accuse

First, my campaign funds are a matter of public record. You can, as they say, look it up.

Second, if you are trying to scurrilously disqualify me for my associations then let me make your job easy. I have thousands of friends and acquaintances. Many of them you probably won’t like for their various and myriad opinions on all kinds of subjects. Some of them are priest, nuns and rabbis; some of them addicted or convicted criminals; some fabulously wealthy and some penniless; some believe in God and some don’t; some are very liberal and some very conservative; and some of them even Republicans or Tea Party. I admire and complement them each on the good things they have done and pray to strengthen their weaknesses. And I try to learn something from each.

My character does in fact reflect my 66 year record and life in business and in the community- and my many friends and acquaintances. Please feel free to judge away and vote accordingly.

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Brian M.

1:28 pm on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

"Second, if you are trying to scurrilously disqualify me for my associations then let me make your job easy. I have thousands of friends and acquaintances. Many of them you probably won’t like for their various and myriad opinions on all kinds of subjects."

I'm not trying to do anything scurrilous. You earlier made the assertion that your friend's politics are her business. With respect to most of those thousands of friends you've described I'd be inclined to agree: you can't and shouldn't be held to account for what everyone you know thinks.

The problem here is that your relationship with this particular friend is not simply a personal relationship, but rather one you've used for political and financial gain; it's no longer simply a private relationship, but a public one. This isn't just a case of having a crazy uncle; you're quite right that we all have one. This is a case of publicly announcing the support for your candidacy of a person whose politics many consider radical and offensive and trying to raise money on the basis of that support. Having done that, I don't see how you can then turn around and say that her politics are her business and that you don't have to explain anything.

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Steve

10:18 pm on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

I agree with Brian. Her politics are your business especially when like he said you are working with her to raise campaign funds.

Also, you comment that Ebersole's personal political opinions are her own business and that people are trying to disqualify you by your associations... is this not what you were trying to do by perpetuating the non story about the incident in Hamilton? The video which you "linked" to multiple times on your Facebook website. From what I recall this individual was not a spokesman for nor affiliated with the Smith campaign but *you* and many others tried to associate the two. So by doing this why are we not allowed to associate Christine Ebersole's beliefs that 9/11, the worst attack on US soil since Pearl Harbor, was an inside job with your own? You can't have it both ways Mr. Froelich.

Also you keep attempting to insinuate that Chris Smith = Paul Ryan = Tod Akin So if Akin or Ryan had a fundraiser for Smith politics are divorced right? you said it? Again you cant have it both ways Brian.

Also comments like this "I suggest that you just go back to your birth certificate search or watching Fox." are unbecoming of any individual looking to hold public office.This and other statements are really lacking in the stellar customer service skills you describe yourself as having.

John Jay

9:05 am on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Excellent reply, Mr. Froelich. I will retract my earlier statement that a vote for you = Obama. The issue of "Obamacare" however, is very concerning to me -- I am projecting that I will owe at least $2,000 more/year in taxes and insurance costs because of Obamacare.

I am not saying this as a partisan -- it is 100% truth. There is no way I can support anyone who is going to takle $2,000 from my family and won't see a dime's worth of benefits.

In the event of a loss, if Congressman Smith asked you for ideas "as a businessman" that would help our economy recover, where Obamacare is repealed, would you help him?

RE: "Brian Froelich 12:34 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 The right answer is that a vote for Froelich is a vote for Froelich. I support President Obama and hope that he wins. But I will support whoever wins and try to help them be successful (improve the economy and reduce the debt) - then we are all successful. I don’t owe anyone anything and have been independent all my life. My record is successful and public.

"The strategy of Smith, Ryan and many other (not all) Republicans have been to insure that Obama fails, not that the people win. That record is also public."

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Brian Froelich

11:25 pm on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

John Jay,
Let me start with the general effects and then address the specific cause. The Affordable Care Act has many very positive effects. And I believe that it is basically a good step in the right direction. (i.e. not perfect but good) Now if there are some bad effects then I would rather look at their specific causes and address those specifics rather than throw the baby out with the bath water, so to speak.

So, if it generally has a good effect but causes you a bad one then, I would try to understand your concern and that specific effect and what the specific causes are. Then I would try to deal with that specific cause.
In sum I would need to know what is causing your $2,000 projected increase. Most estimates I have seen show only very modest recent increases in health premiums (about 4%) and those increases are not necessarily related to the act.

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Emily Jones

8:41 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

John Jay how could you possibly support someone whose does not care if the people win? Smith simply is out to target an opponent, yet he is not working for the people who pay them. Brian is running on the exact opposite platform. He is tired of the bullshit Smith is putting his district and his people through. Ocean and Monmouth counties both have over a 9.8% unemployment rate - don't you think that should be our congressman's main focus? Instead he just wants Obama to be defeated.

Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

11:38 pm on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Brian - 4% increases??? where do you see that low #?

If a middle class family is paying $15k and it goes up 4%, that's $600 bucks. Are you suggesting that is chump change?

What is Obamacare specifically doing to control costs? Costs are the problem don't you agree?

Check out stopthehit.com

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Now that the Supreme Court has upheld the health insurance mandate, most Americans must be insured starting in 2014 or pay a penalty.

The penalty will be assessed on your tax return and administered by the IRS. But exactly how is a big question.

The IRS has not issued its guidance yet. But IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman addressed the issue shortly after the law was enacted in 2010.

Based on his comments, a reading of the Affordable Care Act and information from the Kaiser Family Foundation, here's a look at just how the mandate will work and how it will be enforced. (Related: What companies need to know about the law)

What will I have to pay? In 2014, the penalty will be no more than $285 per family or 1% of income, whichever is greater. In 2015, the cap rises to $975 or 2% of income. And by 2016, the penalty will go to $2,085 per family or 2.5% of income, whichever is greater.

If a poor family declines to buy health insurance, they could pay $2k a year penalty...I mean tax......is that helping them???

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Brian Froelich

12:03 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

I believe the 4% figure (and the statement that it is modest relative to previous increases) is a recent Kaiser Foundation estimate. Also, I believe that poor people will be eligible for a subsidy under the act. Discussions about how Obamacare might effect future costs is also available at Kaiser and other sites.

Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

11:46 pm on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Brian - how will Obamacare help our school district? Township

http://www.manchestertwp.org/cms/lib4/NJ01001700/Centricity/Domain/267/2012-13UserFriendlyBudget.htm

Healthcare spending is $10.5 millon out of the $51 millon budget - 20%.

Are you saying it will only go up 4% next year? Maybe increase costs $500,000.

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Brian Froelich

12:21 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

If I read the budget correctly it appears benefits went up by about that amount this year. Employee Benefits went from $9,690,420 in 2011-12 to $10,533,000 in 2012-13 or approximately $543,000 or 5%.

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Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

12:29 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Yes, but that was really last years premium increase since they are not calendar year and it doesn't tell the whole story. Since the 5% represents the aggregate increase, we would need to see how many people are covered year over year by category. Many times schools and towns have lower headcounts yet costs rise and they show it as a lower percentage that the premium increases. I know, politicians......

The bigger question is what does Obamacare do to control these costs which are a large driver of property taxes (pay and benefits)

I appreciate the exchange and attempt to educate the public.....

Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

12:12 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Thanks Brian - my costs for renewal went up 11% to over $16k a year. I found the report. It is here since you did not provide it as a reference to your blog.

http://www.kff.org/insurance/ehbs091112nr.cfm

Assuming 4% is the figure. On a $15k policy, that is a $600 increase. If the employee (non-government) makes $50,000, he would need a 3% raise to keep pace. We know that is not happening not even in government thanks to the 2% cap.

That means middle income families continue to get hurt by rising costs since Obamacare does nothing to fix them.

It's interesting you bring up subsidies. How can we pay for subsidies given we have a trillion dollar budget deficit? Are we borrowing to give out this subsidy? Isn't this how we got to the deficit and debt now?

Maybe it would help us understand in a real situation how Obamacare is helping us as citizens and taxpayers. How will it affect the costs and benefits of the school system? Will costs go up? The election for BOE is soon so this might help us decided who to vote for.

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Brian Froelich

12:43 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

First, there are lots of pieces to the Act and many are aimed at lowering the cost of healthcare. (You can see a summary at http://www.kff.org/healthreform/upload/8061.pdf)
Second, the subsidies are built into the (cost/revenue) budget of the plan.
Finally, in sum, The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates the act will provide coverage to an additional 32 million when fully implemented in 2019 through a combination of the newly created Exchanges and the Medicaid expansion.
CBO estimates the cost of the coverage components of the new law to be $938 billion over ten years. These costs are financed through a combination of savings from Medicare and Medicaid and new taxes and fees, including an excise tax on high-cost insurance, which CBO estimates will raise $32 billion over ten years. CBO also estimates that the health reform law will reduce the deficit by $124 billion over ten year

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Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

12:46 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Brian you also mentioned you would cut the debt if elected....that I support......can you provide specifics?

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Brian Froelich

12:51 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

I support the Simpson Bowles Plan

Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

12:49 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

In 10 years, Obama's budget is projected to grow the debt to $25 trillion. If Obamacare does what is claimed, $124 billion won't pay for 1/4 of that years interest expenses. You mention the savings from Medicare and Medicaid. What savings? Medicare is adding nearly $500 billion a year to the deficit. If we save on medicare, doesn't that only lessen Medicare's contribution to the deficit.

How familiar are you with Obama's budget?

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Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

12:56 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Brian - according to Obama's 2012 budget which is on the government website and sadly not passed by the Democrats including Menendez in the Senate,

Medicare spending for 2012 equals $478 Billon. Medicaid spending equals $255 Billion. That's $733 Billion in spending.

Medicare taxes collected equal $226 Billion.

That leaves a shortfall for these 2 programs just for 2012 of $500+ Billion.

Since we know we have a budget deficit - over $1 Trillion or so, we borrow this money and the debt grows increasing our interest expense and adding more burden to our children and grandchildren.

Do you support borrowing money to pay for Medicare and Medicaid?

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Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

12:57 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Please provide the details of what about Simpson Bowles you like? You do know Simpson Bowles doesn't balance the budget or lower the debt right?

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John Jay

2:28 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Who are you Dems trying to fool? It's all about THE MONEY. This Obamacare nonsense is DESIGNED to screw the working man/woman out of their money. It's a SCAM -- a TAX that is paid to the INSURANCE COMPANIES which are owned by the MEGA-BANKS.

Obama is in the BACK POCKET of the bankster/fraudster cartel. As long as his American-hating wife and their kids get vacations and the good life at the taxpayer's expense, they couldn't care less if we live or die.

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Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

8:24 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

John Jay - I am just trying to understand Brian's positions on Obamacare, debt and spending. At least he is honest enough to engage us and answer our questions unlike Menendez who never sets foot outside of Essex and Hudson County.

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Bob English

8:33 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Actually Sen. Menendez did dbate his challanger Sen. Kyrillos in front of live audiences and on statewide tv several times in the past month. It would be nice if Rep. Smith would give the voters in his district the same courtesy. It's not even an R or D issuse. People not matter which party they are in that want to represent us in Congress should not be afraid to debate!!

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Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

8:47 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

I don't disagree about Smith debating.

What did Menendez say he would do to stop spending and cut the debt? Do you know that when Menendez got to the Senate, our National Debt was $8.2 Trillion. He has presided over a 100% increase. What the heck is he doing? Why doesn't he vote no to raising the debt and cutting spending??? That is what he should be doing to help people. Stop borrowing money from China and handing it out like Halloween Candy.

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Emily Jones

8:59 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Bob English I completely agree with you. It is as though Smith just expects everyone's vote and does not believe he should have to work for it. There have been at least 4 debates, that I am aware of, that Smith has just completely disregarded. At times he even says that he will show and never does. That should speak volumes of his character. It also implies that he's scared.

Emily Jones

8:37 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

The Simpson-Bowles plan allows for $80 billion annually to reduce the deficit. It also talks about removing tax loopholes. Furthermore, the plan is not finalized, it is simply the concept that is completely correct. I am sure that is what Brian is talking about.
Which the republicans should know Mitt Romney said President Obama was foolish not to jump on.

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Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

9:17 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Emily $80 B a year to reduce the deficit?? Really??

the CBO projected that under Obama's current budget proposal, the debt will increase by $8 trillion more through 2022 - add that to the $16 Trillon we already owe and cannot pay back. $16 + $8 = $24 TRILLION......$24 TRILLION.

BS called for revenue increases and expense cuts of nearly 1 to 1 ratio

BS would have reduced the $8 Trillion number (on top of the $16+ Trillion) added to approx $3.5 Trillion

That is still an average annual increase of $350 B per year in the debt.

BS does not balance the budget at any time. It also does not factor in any fallout from tax increases or spending cuts as they would presumably affect economic activity in other ways.

If BS implemented, the debt will still grow to $20 TRILLION

If you or Obama or Menendez or anyone supports BS, does that mean you accept that Medicare and SS will have cuts?

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Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

9:36 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Brian - I appreciate the responses to my questions last night. Could you please answer the rest for the voters this one in particular.

According to Obama's 2012 budget which is on the government website and sadly not passed by the Democrats including Menendez in the Senate,

Medicare spending for 2012 equals $478 Billon. Medicaid spending equals $255 Billion. That's $733 Billion in spending.

Medicare taxes collected equal $226 Billion.

That leaves a shortfall for these 2 programs just for 2012 of $500+ Billion.

Since we know we have a budget deficit - over $1 Trillion or so, we borrow this money and the debt grows increasing our interest expense and adding more burden to our children and grandchildren.

Do you support borrowing money to pay for Medicare and Medicaid?

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Spooner

10:46 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

I believe 97 Senators voted against the budget. Are you saying that those 97 are Democrats?

John Jay

9:47 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Democrat Congressman Jim Moran (D-Va.) son is caught committing voter fraud! Shocked? I'm not. This guy needs to go straight to federal prison -- including his father if they can get the goods on him!

"The son of Rep. Jim Moran, D-Va. – who serves as the field director for his father’s campaign – has been caught on video advising an undercover reporter how to fraudulently cast ballots in the name of registered voters by forging utility bills and relying on the assistance of Democrat lawyers." (Source: http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/video-captures-dem-campaign-chief-plotting-vote-fraud/)

Gee....I thought there was no such thing as fraud...at least that's what so many Dems here claim!

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Spooner

11:00 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Is that the same as Nathan Sproul who was being paid by the RNC and was responsible for voter fraud in Florida, whom the RNC claimed that they cut his funding off in March. . . but when you look at this picture and read the article... it sure looks like Sproul is still in operation at the same location...

...then on October 5, Congressman Elijah E. Cummings, Ranking Member of the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, has asked Sproul to sit for an interview. In the letter requesting the interview, Cummings writes: “Instead of the RNC [Republican National Committee] having ‘zero tolerance’ for voter registration fraud, you claimed that RNC officials asked you to form your new company, Strategic Allied Consulting, in June for the specific purpose of concealing your connections to these previous allegations. In a blunt concession, you reportedly stated that you ‘created Strategic Allied Consulting at the request of the Republican National Committee because of the bad publicity stemming from past allegations.’ ”

http://wallstreetonparade.com/2012/10/nathan-sproul-this-is-what-a-shell-company-looks-like/

Brian Froelich

10:29 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

I think I'll just end here with this observation, you criticized Menendez above because when he went to Congress the National Debt was $8 trillion and now it is $16.

But when Republican Chris Smith, a career politician, went to Washington the national debt was under $1 trillion. And he has had a Republican team in place during much of his time there. Yet he, and the Republicans, take no responsibility for any of that debt or the condition that we find ourselves in

I am not interested in having a discussion that has a one sided Republican political agenda of just attacking Democratic proposals and/or individuals.

My plans, positions, proposals, and comments are very public. In short I support the Simpson Bowles Plan and Obamacare. My opponent has voted for the Ryan Plan and against Obamacare and has vowed to repeal it. Beyond that he has made almost no public comments on the economy or economic issues.

Please feel free to attack my relative position and record at your leisure.

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Spooner

11:09 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Brian- that's true about Rep. Chris Smith voting against ACA and supporting what Ryan now calls his budget: "Path To Prosperity" But that prosperity will not be for the average working person and the middle class. . .

Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

10:41 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Brian - that is very cowardly of you. Just when I thought you were sincere. I know you said you support BS but BS doesn't get the job done. I asked you to tell us, the voters, if you believe in borrowing money to pay for Medicare? Why are you afraid to answer that? Chris Smith may not be worthy either but that is the question. What are you or Obama or Menendez or any other politician R or D going to do to lower the debt and cut spending? It's a simple question. if you want the job, that is what it requires and we deserve an honest answer. if not, you have proven yourself not worthy of our consideration. Again, thanks for your time and answers but if this is the end of the discussion, I have to give you an "incomplete" just like Obama gave himself.

Do you disagree with the facts I have stated below?

According to Obama's 2012 budget which is on the government website and sadly not passed by the Democrats including Menendez in the Senate,

Medicare spending for 2012 equals $478 Billon. Medicaid spending equals $255 Billion. That's $733 Billion in spending.

Medicare taxes collected equal $226 Billion.

That leaves a shortfall for these 2 programs just for 2012 of $500+ Billion.

Since we know we have a budget deficit - over $1 Trillion or so, we borrow this money and the debt grows increasing our interest expense and adding more burden to our children and grandchildren.

Do you support borrowing money to pay for Medicare and Medicaid?

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Spooner

11:32 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

...I know your going to tell me he's the one running for Congress. . .but I'm curious...what is your solution in dealing with the growing deficit. . .Do you propose bringing the budget down to 20% of GDP like Romney/ Ryan argue...necessitating; it is estimated, a $9T cut in the budget over 10 years. Now that's easy to say here in print. . .but what is the real macroeconomic impact to millions of people. You and they don't talk about those points. Medicare and SSI are called entitlements because they are insurance programs...just like if a loved one passed away and they had life insurance, or if you got into car accident, you would be entitled to collect on that life insurance...and in the case of the auto accident, entitled to have your medical builds paid by your insurance company under PIP protection. So as much as you complain about those entitlements. . .there insurance contracts. . .that the government made and signed. . .that they have to comply with!

Da Poppa

10:46 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

"Yet Rep Smith accused President Obama and his administration of criminal activity for supporting that process since the Constitution contained a woman’s right to abortion in the case of rape, incest, or health." Can you please show me where in the Constitution the right to kill an unborn baby is? What one of the constitutional amendments lists the right to abortion?

Smith is hardly an effective representative, and his voting record scores a 46% by the conservative group Hertiage Foundation. He's hardly conservative, and barely a Republican. But he's all we have, because the Democrats offer no viable alternative.

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Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

10:52 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Hi Spooner - of course not. All 97 could never all be Democrats. That would be just awful. Why did the Democrats vote NO on Obama's budget? Of course, voting no isn't the same as actually cutting spending since we all know the deficit this year is up another $1 trillion plus. The question is with Medicare running a $500 Billion a year deficit, do Democrats and Republicans support borrowing to pay for it? Does Menendez have any votes to cut the debt.....it's up 100% since he was sworn in. I can't believe he just sits back and let's it happen and then pretends he cares.

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Spooner

11:46 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

...yeah well I remember his debate with Kyrillos, and he never confronted Menendez about the deficit and his record. I thought he did poorly in not having a grasp of the facts and issues beholding to the office. Menendez ran rings around him confronting him with his record in the Senate. . .and all your saw Kyrillos do was hold out his tongue and say nothing. . .He's a candidate that's out of his league.

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Steve

12:05 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

@Spooner
"[Kyrillos'] a candidate that's out of his league" Sounds eerily similar to this Froelich character. At least Kyrillos has political experience. (Not saying he is ideal)

Da Poppa

10:55 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Smith voted against the Women's Equal Rights amendment in the 1990's? Are you kidding? The ERA was passed by both the senate and house in 1972! It was then put to a vote in each on the 50 state for ratification, which it failed to do within the constitutional limits of 1979, and the unconstitutional extension signed by the second worst President in history Jimmy Carter. Smith was voted into Congress in 1981!

Unbelievable. You've been "fact checked" and exposed.

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NJarhead

10:59 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Now Pappa, were you sure ot make it clear at the beginning that only facts were to be discussed? These Democrats get confused sometimes. /sarcasm.
"Fo, Fo, Fo, Fox news" in 3....2.....1......

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Da Poppa

11:25 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

NJarHead - what's worse is that these things are easily checked with a quick google search. I read that, and his "constitutional right to abortion" comment and I was insulted. Lies by a politician, GOP or Dem, is insulting. True fact checking, not the biased fact checking done by the main stream media, is easily done by anyone with an Internet connection and a web browser.

Demagoguery is the tool of a person trying to deflect attention from their faults, and that's what Mr. Forelich and Obama are doing.

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NJarhead

11:27 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Couldn't agree more Poppa. I'll add that when you're telling a story and leave out key facts, it's the same as lying.

Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

11:41 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Spooner can you ever be serious? You start out with the raw facts and they emotionally tie a what if personal situation to it......we have a spending crisis, we have a debt crisis, we have a jobs crisis so yes something has to get cut.......the spending in 2008 was $2.8 trillion and today its $3.8 trillion. Let's start by going back to 2008 levels.......what do you propose to lop off $1 trillion a year before we even talk about the $16 TRILLION DONKEY in the room.

Brian is running for office....he needs to answer the questions.....same for Smith. Stop the soundbites. Stop the games. Cuts are required. You and I both know it.

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Spooner

11:49 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

...you still haven't answered mt question. . .What do you propose. . .I mean we all know what the problem. . .give me your solution!

Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

11:55 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Spend at 2008 levels
according also to Obama's budget projections, revenues will be $2.9 T in 2013
Budget would be balanced based on my assumption of 08 spending and Obama's assumption of 2013 revenues

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Brian Froelich

12:49 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

@ NJarhead & Da Poppa
I hate to waste my time on people who waste my time but I don’t like being incorrectly called a liar.
First, if you actually read what I said, I was talking about the new Kenya constitution (not the US Constitution!) containing the right to abortion. That is what Smith objected to.
Second, there was also a Women’s ERA bill introduced in the House in the 1990s (that failed by 6 votes). You can look it up!
Please no more nonsense.

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Steve

1:03 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Bill No.? Looking through the LoC website its hard to find one that made it out of committee.

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NJarhead

4:36 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

I can see where you might think I was calling you a liar. The truth is, I was not. In any event, I'd love to get an answer from you to my question above: "do you think 9/11 was an 'inside job'?"

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NJarhead

7:08 am on Friday, October 26, 2012

I guess not. But the silence leads me to believe that you do support the conspiracy theory.

Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

12:59 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Do you disagree with the facts I have stated below?

According to Obama's 2012 budget which is on the government website and sadly not passed by the Democrats including Menendez in the Senate,

Medicare spending for 2012 equals $478 Billon. Medicaid spending equals $255 Billion. That's $733 Billion in spending.

Medicare taxes collected equal $226 Billion.

That leaves a shortfall for these 2 programs just for 2012 of $500+ Billion.

Since we know we have a budget deficit - over $1 Trillion or so, we borrow this money and the debt grows increasing our interest expense and adding more burden to our children and grandchildren.

Do you support borrowing money to pay for Medicare and Medicaid?

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Spooner

4:49 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

---you'd been giving us the mantra for a while now. . .still waiting for your suggestions as to solving the budget deficit problem without getting hog tied in litigation over contract. . .

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Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

4:52 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

I answered you hours ago but you might have missed it....here it is again

11:55 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Spend at 2008 levels
according also to Obama's budget projections, revenues will be $2.9 T in 2013
Budget would be balanced based on my assumption of 08 spending and Obama's assumption of 2013 revenues

What contracts? Did Obama care about bond and stock contracts when he gave GM to the union?

Guinness15

2:25 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Froelich and Smith are in the positions they are in because they have a deep-seated interest in seeing their community thrive. Yes, their approaches are quite different, but I feel I must give credit and respect where it is due (regardless of which party I happen to like).

Residents of D4 deserve transparency and attentiveness, and Froelich has posted here numerous times to make his stances clear and hear concerns from actual constituents. I respect that.

Those of you who have taken this opportunity to devote entire days of your lives to making Froelich repeat himself are beyond childish. Political TROLLING at its worst! Some of the posts here, excluding one exceptional story, indicate the same thing I have come to find with Smith -- despite his "record" of constituent service, he is incredibly difficult to get in touch with. So now Smith and Froelich are fighting for my vote. Smith has ignored me. Froelich has made it a point to stick his neck out and give me an opportunity to voice my concerns.

TROLLS like you ruin this opportunity. Stick to your talking points and keep bending your facts. Nobody cares. Saturate every article you find with whatever garbage you feel inclined to spew. Sounds like fun, really. The rest of us in D4 might actually get something productive done one of these days. Unemployment is APPALLING and our congressman has been MIA. Period. Mr. Froelich is here trying to make his community a better place. Why are you here?

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Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

2:57 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

I'm here because I want answers. You can name call all you want. Answer the questions. I know you won't because like Obama, Menendez you are liars about the debt, deficits and cutting spending. keep at it....that's why you are losing!!

Do you disagree with the facts I have stated below?

According to Obama's 2012 budget which is on the government website and sadly not passed by the Democrats including Menendez in the Senate,

Medicare spending for 2012 equals $478 Billon. Medicaid spending equals $255 Billion. That's $733 Billion in spending.

Medicare taxes collected equal $226 Billion.

That leaves a shortfall for these 2 programs just for 2012 of $500+ Billion.

Since we know we have a budget deficit - over $1 Trillion or so, we borrow this money and the debt grows increasing our interest expense and adding more burden to our children and grandchildren.

Do you support borrowing money to pay for Medicare and Medicaid?

Hey Troll - answer or go away!!!!

Mills Lane

3:15 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

This is how we can fix it. Make insurance illegal. It does nothing but make a few pencil pushers and doctors very wealthy. Let everyone pay for their own medical services. If you cannot afford it you can suffer and or die. It is what happened before all of this managed care nonsense. There are too many people in the world anyway. It will have the added advantage of bringing down unemployment, creating more housing and lowering welfare since urban people with aids and GSWs will be the first to go.

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George Clark

3:20 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

menendez, where do you suppose we'd get the money for Mitts war spending, tax cuts etc.. etc..? you don't care about the deficit for if you did you/d demand hard number facts from ryan and or mitt as to where their money to cut deficit would come from? they don't have a clue and not one sain person can do their foggy hidden math and make it decrease the budget one cent. stop lying about caring about the deficit and say you want these two lying idiots in office.

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Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

4:35 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Now you want to focus on the issues??

Obama is the liar. Remember the debt is bad, unpatriotic, i will cut it in half...blah blah blah......

He added $7 TRILLION and proposes adding another $8 trillion

Answer me this. Did Obama lie about the debt being irresponsible?

Come on, you can say it......we all know!!!

Mills Lane

4:36 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

We can get rid of the deficit by stopping all medicaid, medicare and social security for any person born today moving forward and refunding all premiums collected with interest to anyone under 30. Also end welfare and any spending on "aid" to foreign nations and institutions like the imf and un. Boom. Done.

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Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

5:03 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

What and expect people to take personal responsibility? Are you MAD???

Guinness15

4:36 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

You've copy and pasted the same message on here 5 times. Congrats. Does the GOP pay you to press Ctrl + V or do you do it out of the kindness of your heart?

The budget deficit is a problem, yes. But it's a problem Congress will have to solve TOGETHER.

How does Chris Smith approach the problem? He pledged his allegiance to Grover Norquist. Not to his constituents or the American people, but to a millionaire lobbyist bent on pushing his own agenda through Congress. Froelich is a moderate (his word not mine) and backs the bi-partisan backed Simpson-Bowles plan. One of these candidates wants a solution, and even has one in mind. The other wants... to do whatever Grover Norquist tells him.

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Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

4:56 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Still afraid to answer the question I see. It's very simple why are you or Brian so scared of it.

Look everyone candidates running for office are afraid to answer a simple question. Why would you ever vote for them?

Maybe you want to answer it.

Good for Chris Smith and Grover......spending is the problem!!!!

Let's take a small math test shall we.

If Medicare has $260 Billion in dollars and spends $730 Billion in dollars, how many dollars does Medicare have left?

Guinness15

4:24 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

New Jersey House Republicans have pledged allegiance to Grover Norquist - NJ.com:
http://blog.nj.com/ledgerletters/2011/07/new_jersey_house_republicans_h.html

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Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

5:01 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Good. NJ is overtaxed. Does this include property taxes. Who out there wants higher property taxes because of pensions and healthcare payments to unions??

Let's eliminate the pensions in NJ and provide $3 billion in tax relief to the towns, counties and state.

http://www.njtanews.blogspot.com/2012/09/sign-pledge-for-fairer-pension-system.html

George Clark

5:08 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

menendez, you silly shill. you answer nothing and hide behind people's name you claim to dislike. Don't you know advertisement is a form of flattery and by putting that handle on yourself you actually are looking totally stupid advertising for them? Go on and tell us how ryan and romneys economic plan would reduce deficit by one sent? let's save money by stopping aid to Israel that doesnt need it. At least the other countries need it for some reason or other. Israel sends it back to congress through the lobbyist pac of theirs. kick backs through corrupt souls in the name of God? nice.

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Menendez & Corzine Perfect Together

5:18 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

yep just like Obama blame someone or something else. Never take responsibility.

You are the shill with your crazy comments, no basic facts or knowledge of budgets, economics or finances.

I bet you still think Corzine wasn't a filthy rich, liberal spender who is as corrupt as they come. He was Mr. Goldman Sachs. He screwed up NJ and then like Obama lied about the events the caused MF Global to go bankrupt. Is that your idea of a good man and leader?

Joe Biden thinks Corzine is the go to man!!! We cannot afford anyone that thinks Corzine is worth anything.

Do you want to take a stab at answering the question. I now know Brian is afraid to even though by supporting BS he knows the answer is he will cut Medicare AND borrow more money to pay what's left.

Did Obama lie when in 2008 he attacked the debt? Did he just say that to get elected and attack Bush....he was right by the way so why did he add $7 trillion to the debt.

Are you anti-Israel like Obama too?

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