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Sunshine Harbor Gives Point Boro Officials Some Heat

Residents lay out past and present concerns that barreled in with Sandy

 

A group of Sunshine Harbor residents are telling Point Borough officials that Sandy shoved them into a dark, cold, wet, scary place - and the town hasn't done enough to help pull them out.

A group of 16 residents met with some Borough Council members on Monday night to voice complaints and concerns about how the Borough has handled the crisis that left many in the waterfront, low-lying community flooded and in the dark in more ways than one.

While there was not always complete agreement on the myriad of matters discussed at the meeting, nearly all of the residents there expressed at least some dissatisfaction with some of the storm issues, including how the town handled the Oct. 29 evacuation order, security, communication about the community's two week power outage and trash and debris removal.

While the meeting was at times tense, it did result in an agreement from council members that the Borough needs to improve in all of the areas cited by residents.

The meeting was held at the home of Elissa Commins whose house on Glenwood is among a small percentage of Sunshine Harbor homes where Sandy didn't flood the first floor.

"It got the crawl space and the garage and I have to re-do the heating system," Commins said. "But I'm so lucky. I'm blessed to have a house that didn't flood that you can all meet in."

Not "Back to Normal"

While some of Point Borough is "getting back to normal," Sunshine Harbor, like Bay Head Shores, areas south of Bridge Avenue closer to Stop & Shop and other flooded areas of the Borough, isn't even close.

Many of the 250 homes in Sunshine Harbor, which is east of Beaver Dam Road, were badly flooded to the point where they are not habitable, which is evident from the amount of household debris dragged out of soaked homes to the street.

Many residents are living elsewhere because they have to or because staying home is simply too miserable or uncomfortable. Some of the residents at the meeting drove from Brick, Freehold and other towns where they are living with relatives or friends temporarily. The neighborhood had no power for two weeks after Sandy.

Break Out the Bullhorns Next Time

never reached many of the people who needed to hear it most, said some of the residents at the meeting.

The mandatory order followed two days of the Borough officials urging voluntary evacuations.

Some of the residents at the meeting asked why the Borough didn't have police or other emergency responders handing out leaflets urging evacuations or banging on house doors, as they did just before Irene in August 2011. Irene had been a hurricane but was downgraded to a tropical storm when it hit land.

Council member Chris Leitner said the Borough emergency officials had said that those efforts typically do not yield enough results to warrant the heavy use of manpower.

They said they understood residents' points that relying on websites and the public school district's Honeywell instant alert system were not sufficient because not all residents have computers or children in school. Only public school families receive the recorded Honeywell telephone calls.

Also, the decision to issue the mandatory evacuation was reached only a couple of hours before noon, the time the town wanted all in vulnerable areas to evacuate, noted Desiree Land of Middle Avenue. And around noon, she noted, many people lost power.

Land said the Borough should have used some low-tech methods, in addition to the Internet and Honeywell.

"When you wait until that morning to issue the order, you need the bullhorns," said Land, whose home was among the few that did not flood on Middle. She said the Borough also needs to knock on doors and possibly distribute fliers or leaflets to notify people to evacuate.

Leitner and Council members Toni DePaola and Bob Sabosik all said they think those measures should be taken in the future if another significant weather event is heading towards Point.

They also said they agree the Borough needs to do a better job in the future with communicating with residents. The three council members sat in the front of the room fielding questions, while Council members Bill Borowsky and John Wisniewski also attended.

But, despite the admitted shortcomings, Leitner said he still believes that the Borough's Office of Emergency Management did a good job.

"Well, you have a room full of people who say they didn't," said Land, who was sitting next to him.

Borowsky said, "I have to disagree with Chris. I've talked to hundreds of people and a lot of people don't feel this was handled the right way."

Leitner said the Borough also used a Nixle system to alert residents to the evacuation order. None of the residents knew what that was.

Leitner told the residents that Nixle is a type of Reverse 911 system.

"How do you know about it?" Land asked. "I didn't know about it."

Leitner said it had been publicized in Patch and newspapers.

"We're committed to establishing a Reverse 911 system," Leitner said.

Sabosik added that signs will be posted prior to the next significant storm to warn people to evacuate.

"We'll have signs made up," he said.

"Just like elections signs!" a woman in the back cried out, tongue in cheek, getting one of the few laughs of the evening.

"Well, I didn't want to say that," Sabosik replied, smiling.

After the meeting, Commins said she knew to evacuate, largely because of emails that Tom Bolcar, District 1 representative of the Sunshine Harbor Association Board, had been sending out to Sunshine Harbor residents during that weekend and Monday as the storm approached.

She said she left at about 1 or 2 p.m. that Monday to stay with a friend in Brick.

Were You There For Us?

Cindy Scully, who was attending the meeting with her husband, Michael Scully, said her street, Seagull Terrace, had been forgotten in terms of the debris piling up and what she described as no visits from local elected officials.

"Not one of you people came in back here," she said, angrily, looking at the three council members. "Not you, not the mayor."

"I've toured the hard-hit areas every day," Leitner said.

"You never saw me," Scully said. "Are you walking around knocking on doors? Because a lot of people need help now."

"I'm sorry I missed you," Leitner said. "But I was here. I knocked on 300 doors here and in town. I was at the Relief Center. When I wasn't there I was helping at the first aid squad or at the high school (where there was a shelter after the storm).

"Don't tell us we don't care," Leitner countered. "We care deeply."

Scully said after the meeting that while her home was not flooded, their cars, children's car seats and the rental next door was flooded.

On Tuesday, Schroeder said in the telephone interview that he had toured Sunshine Harbor and many other hard-hit sections of town many times, starting the day after the storm and ever since.

"I was also in Borough Hall from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. working on dealing with the storm and helping to set up the election," Schroeder said.

The Sunshine Law and the Invitations in Sunshine Harbor

As the meeting began, Leitner said the council members could not make decisions at the meeting since a majority of council members were present but it had not been advertised as a council meeting.

The state Open Public Meetings Act, known as "the Sunshine Law," mandates that local and county governing bodies advertise meetings in advance when a majority of the governing body will be present discussing policy or voting.

A few at the meeting thought Mayor William Schroeder was not there because he was at another meeting. On Tuesday, Schroeder said in a telephone interview that he had not been invited to the Sunshine Harbor meeting, so he did not go.

"I only knew about it because Chris Leitner emailed me about it, but I was not asked to go by anyone," Schroeder said.

Schroeder said he agrees that if another significant storm is approaching the Borough, that the town should again bang on doors and leave leaf fliers in mailboxes or taped to house doors. Unlike Leitner, who has been saying he thinks the Borough needs a Reverse 911 system, Schroeder said he's not sure.

"For a few days before the storm, everyone knew it was coming," he said. "Everyone you went in town, that's all people were talking about. Some people just didn't want to leave. I don't think a Reverse 911 call would make those people leave. Maybe knocking on doors would be better because then you have that face to face interaction. But it's up to the council. I wouldn't want to spend thousands of dollars on it. But it's up to them. I'm just the mayor, I don't vote on it."

In the Borough Council form of government, the mayor only votes when there is a tie.

Complaints About JCP&L and the Borough

Land also criticized what she characterized as the Borough's failure to inform the public when power would be restored.

Leitner and Sabosik said that the Borough couldn't get an answer from JCP&L on when power would be restored, not even through repeated phone calls and not through an in-person visit to their substation in Point Beach.

(See JCP&L's response regarding prolonged power outages in the region at bottom of this story.)

The council members said the best thing for the community to do is to file written complaints with the state Board of Public Utilities (BPU).

"Our electrical infrastructure is very old and needs to be replaced," Leitner said.

For more information about filing complaints with BPU, click here.

Community Policing

Regarding police issues, Eric Wagner said his home in Sunshine Harbor was nearly broken into shortly after Sandy left his first floor flooded.

"The chief said there were no break-ins, but my home was nearly broken into," Wagner said. "My son is living upstairs now as our security because we don't have any."

Police Chief Larry Williams said, "I know Eric well. His mother called me and asked if we could patrol."

He said the department of 30 full-time officers and five part-time, special officers has been doing the best it can to serve the entire town, including Sunshine Harbor.

Regarding Sunshine Harbor specifically, Williams said, "We're there 24 hours a day checking the area. I used to live there, my grandparents used to live there, I know it very well. The first day we were able to get in there, the Wednesday after the storm, I was driving around Sunshine Harbor at 7 a.m. talking to residents. I personally spent a number of hours patrolling, in addition to the officers patrolling."

He said the National Guard members were patrolling in National Guard vehicles along with Borough police officers.

When asked if any extra patrols will be added to Sunshine Harbor, Williams said, "Everything is fluid throughout the town. There are about 7,500 homes in Point and we have an obligation to all of the homes and businesses."

The National Guard was in the Borough for two weeks, sleeping at the Borough High School, which was closed during that time, and often eating dinner at the Point Boro First Aid Squad on Beaver Dam Road where volunteers were serving the community around the clock before, during and after the storm.

Some of those Guard members, who spoke to Patch at the time, were also getting sent to other towns during their shifts, even as they were based in the Borough.

Some residents asked why the Guard was not in the Borough longer, as they are still in Bay Head.

Sabosik said at the meeting that the decision for the National Guard to leave was made by Mayor William Schroeder and Williams.

"That's not true," said Williams, when asked about it on Tuesday. "The Guard made that decision themselves. I stopped by on Saturday morning (Nov. 10) only to find out they were leaving."

Commins suggested that residents work together to form a Community Watch. Sabosik noted that DePaola is the liaison to the Borough Community Watch program which has been working to get the word out about its efforts and hoping to get more volunteers.

Collection of Trash and Debris

Many residents said there had not been nearly enough pick-up of trash and debris. Leitner said the Department of Public Works (DPW) or private contractors had "been through" Sunshine Harbor at least three times.

Commins said, "DPW is working seven days a week."

Sabosik said the Borough hired 15 part-time employees and an outside contractor to help clean up the mountains of debris in the Borough's flooded communities. Sabosik said that as a resident of a street in Bay Head Shores, he understood residents' complaints.

"There's a lot of debris on my street too," he said.

Marge Brown, whose house was among many flooded on Laurel Drive, said she had not seen trash trucks nearly enough. At the height of the storm, her son, who lives on River Road, rescued her from her flooded house.

"He got us in a kayak," Brown said.

By Wednesday, Bolcar had sent out a group email to residents saying that council members were getting answers to residents' questions about many issues and that due to council actions, the clean-up seemed to be improving in at least some parts of Sunshine Harbor.

Schroeder said that the Borough has been picking up trash and debris from Nov. 5 and continuing this week and has only taken two days off. He said that effort has resulted in collecting one million yards of debris.

Register with FEMA

All residents whose primary residences were flooded or damaged by Sandy should register with FEMA to be eligible for reimbursement for costs related to repairing storm damage. To contact FEMA online or by phone:

Register by phone at 800-621-FEMA (3362) or TTY 800-462-7585 for those with hearing or speech impairments. Specialists are standing by at the toll-free numbers seven days a week, 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. local time, until further notice. Help in languages other than English is available. Or you can register online at www.DisasterAssistance.gov.You can also apply through a web-enabled mobile device or smartphone by visiting http://m.fema.gov/ and following the link to "apply online for federal assistance."

To visit FEMA, go to the site at the Bay Head Firehouse, Bridge Avenue, Bay Head or the Brick Township Civic Center, 270 Chambers Bridge Rd., Brick, where there are also representatives from the Small Business Adminstration which helps businesses that had storm damage.

Apply for Lower Tax Assessment

Any property owner in Point Borough whose property was flooded or damaged by Sandy can apply for a lower tax assessment.

UPDATE: The form supplied by Sabosik to Patch is not the correct form to use, according to Point Borough  Tax Assessor Robyn Palughi. Palughi sent the correct form, along with an explanatory memo, to Patch on Wednesday afternoon and Patch has removed the wrong form and attached the correct form and the memo to this story. Please note the deadline is Jan. 10 as explained in the memo.
 

JCP&L Response to Complaints About Prolonged Outages in New Jersey:

Super Storm Sandy was the worst storm in the history of JCP&L and a catastrophic event for New Jersey. The combination of a hurricane, full moon, high tide and storm surge resulted in unprecedented damage to JCP&L's infrastructure and affected virtually all of JCP&L's 1.1 million customers.

The company responded by securing mutual aid from across the country including 8,500 line workers, 1,500 forestry workers and an overall workforce of more than 12,000 individuals in New Jersey to restore service to customers. Their work included rebuilding, repairing and restoring a system that took decades to build in less than two weeks.

We continue to focus on hardening our system and working with federal, state and local authorities on a plan to restore service in areas where customers are unable to accept service as a result of devastation to roads, homes and infrastructure.

We understand our customers' frustration and are fully committed to working with the Board of Public Utilities on the review process to best address our customers concerns.

 


PTMAST November 28, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Delete PTMAST 5:11 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 Wish more Sunshine Harbor residents knew about this meeting. implementing a reverse 911 system makes sense...are we the only town that DOESN'T have it?? We had hourly police patrols, and were so grateful for their their no-nonsense approach, showing serious concern for our safety. However, if we mirrored what was done in neighboring towns, with residents providing proof of residency, their job would have been easier and the influx of unnecessary vehicles would have been greatly reduced and less stressful for those of us left behind to pick up the pieces. We did appreciate our councilmen/woman for coming by with whatever information they had to offer, but never once saw our Mayor. Living on one of the hardest hit streets, that's the one person I expected to see. Can't help feeling his interests lie closer to the Beach, rather than the Boro he represents. As for the cleanup....painfully SLOW! Residents have a legitimate complaint. Some of us knew to separate the debris, but notification should have been sent out to all, to help make this process go quicker. But let's not expect the town to do everything. For goodness sake, PICK UP A BROOM! The streets are a mess and the street sweepers are nowhere in sight. I've taken 3 nails out if my tires. Lets work together to get back to normal. Reply
Bowie Thelonius November 28, 2012 at 11:39 PM
Not to sound like an idiot, but where is Sunshine Harbor?
SunnyHarbor November 28, 2012 at 11:41 PM
The people of Sunshine Harbor are not looking for hand outs. Many of them, just like so many others at the shore, have weathered many storms. This one was incomprehensible. Last year before Hurricane Irene, the police dept. knocked on doors with evacuation orders. It needed to be done again. The media coverage was sensationalism at it's best when they named it "Frankenstorm." The flooded communities in our area need "help" by picking up the debris & cleaning the streets at the least. ALL of them pay taxes and should be getting these services ESPECIALLY in this time of need. That is not in any way a "hand out."
charles strenck November 28, 2012 at 11:42 PM
A lot of the damage from this storm could have been avoided if it was not for overregulation by the goverment .We have been trying to build up the beach area in sunshine harbor but have been stopped by "tree huggers" and liberals who want to protect every last bird and insect.The sea is rising and unless we constuct dunes and flood gates and other preventative measures these storms will continue to inflict pain and econmic disaster to this area .Short of establishing "dead zones" next to the coast where no one is allowed to inhabit there has to be a master plan to protect the area. Towns only know how to raise and collect taxes ,when it comes to protecting its citizens they bury their heads in the sand.
Denise Di Stephan (Editor) November 28, 2012 at 11:44 PM
Bowie, it's east of Beaver Dam Road across from boat yards. you can turn onto Glenwood (by gas station) or Middle and you'll be in Sunshine Harbor.
Alia November 29, 2012 at 02:05 AM
I evacuated and strongly support the idea that those who do not leave have no right to expect that first responders should be at risk to rescue them. However, I evacuated because I had other commitments not because of any warnings. I think the change in communication from Irene vs Sandy contributed to the number of people who choose not to cooperate in evacuating. Had someone knocked on my door and warned me to evacuate, I would have taken the need to evacuate more seriously. I did not take many of the precautions that I had with Irene because I did not feel the same sense of urgency. After the storm, I do not think it is unreasonable that residents expect to be given current, accurate information as to when services will resume and what the guidelines are going to be for those services. On my street, residents called to report strangers trespassing at a vacant home and it took an HOUR before the police did a drive-by. This does not foster a feeling of security among those trying to rebuild their community. Yes, the system was overloaded with calls for help and I do not fault the workers. However, there clearly needs to be adjustments in the way the resources are deployed. People will not stay where they do not feel safe. I offer my sincere thanks to all those who have tirelessly and unselfishly helped those who are in need and I pray that those who are feeling vulnerable and weak gain strength from their community as we pull together to make a little progress every day.
Bowie Thelonius November 29, 2012 at 03:40 AM
Thank you!
Nancy G November 29, 2012 at 12:25 PM
I was one of the lucky ones who received a Honeywell alert from the school system. The residents with kids tried to tell other neighbors without schoolkids during the pre-storm panic but not everyone was told. One problem that still lingers is the disgusting amount of debris in our neighborhood. The children have to walk in the middle of the street to get to the bus stops. Contractors are lined up on either side which leaves a narrow lane to drive and walk on, strewn with broken household items and wood flooring with nails. Almost every home has had flat tires in addition to the hard working contractors trying to help us. When I ride through other neighborhoods in town, it is as if nothing happened. Yet a month later we still look like a ghetto. We have had garbage trucks come by 2 times this month for debris and each time they have taken just a little bit. We need more garbage pick up and if the garbage trucks are too small than drop some dumpsters. Please address this issue soon as no one (especially the children) can try to return to normalcy with these unhealthy mountains of rotting, soaked, mold infested in front of every home in Sunshine Harbor.
Denise Di Stephan (Editor) November 29, 2012 at 12:32 PM
Nancy G, others at meeting had similar complaints and I know some of the council members have spoken to Public Works. Tom Bolcar had noted in a follow-up email to residents that the situation seemed to be improving a bit on certain streets, but, based on what you report, not yet on your street. Please email me at denise.distephan@patch.com to let me know what street you live on so I know what to ask the Borough about. Thank you.
Opinionated November 29, 2012 at 01:22 PM
The only legitimate gripe these people have is about the trash removal. The answer to that is the boro still needs to take care of the rest of the town too. You are not the only residents of Point. I have seen most of the other towns. You don't have it as bad as you think. PPB for a while had their debris piles bigger and higher than you and we won't even talk about Bay Head, Mantoloking, Brick, and LBI. I've seen them, they're worse. There is a lot to say about JCPL but the BPU should be hearing from you. As far as evacuation is concerned, personal vigilance goes a long way. Reports were made saying this storm would be hideous and most did not believe it. The bottom line is some prepared and some did not. Living on or near the water obviously have to prepare a lot more for storms than those who don't. This was a freak storm and hopefully we won't see another any time soon. Please note that I said HOPEFULLY. Let's all not get caught off guard again. Unfortunately, some will never learn.
BoroMom November 29, 2012 at 02:33 PM
Why can't the school's Honeywell Instant Alert be expanded (opened to all residents, not just households with students) for all emergency notifications? I know I received many notifications prior to the storm, during and after the storm. Wouldn't this save a lot of time and money? (example: before storm, notification was given that schools would be closed due to storm and liquor stores would be closing at 10pm and for the foreseeable future, and there would be a curfew put in place). It seems like an obvious option to me.
Denise Di Stephan (Editor) November 29, 2012 at 03:47 PM
BoroMom: If all residents were added to the Honeywell system, they would get all Honeywell calls, including calls about scheduling changes, such as when a few half days were recently restored to full days, days off, certain special events, the fact that students' interim grades are viewable online and so forth. I don't know if all residents would mind getting all those calls. If not, they need to let council members know that. Meanwhile, at least some members of the governing body are interested in establishing a town Reverse 911 system just for town messages. Again, now is a good time for all residents to express their opinions to council members about what they think should be done and how it should be handled.
Da Poppa November 29, 2012 at 04:44 PM
First, the JCPL infrastructure is horribly outdated. What other service delivery industry asks a customer to call them if they don't have power? Complaints about long term power loss by government officials to the NJ power companies were met with "we didn't know, tell us where." Instead of regulating rates, the state utility board should be mandating power grid upgrades in exchange for the rate increases. The Boro did a HORRIBLE job of communicating information to the residents of Point Boro on the storm, evacuation, and aftermath. I got more calls from the BEACH emergency management office, sometimes multiple times a day, concerning the storm than I got from the Boro. They used the Patch? HOW EXCTLY ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO GET TO THE INTERNET WITH NO POWER!!!! They didn't want to use the manpower? So, you put hundreds of lives at risk due to the cost. Shouldn't the cost be mitigated somewhat by the surplus? Oh, no! We used that to balance the budget! WE DON'T HAVE A SURPLUS ANYMORE!!! I'm looking forward to the snow season to start. Also, the town was told by JCPL that the substation was not repairable, it was so old that they had no spare or replacement parts for it. It had to be replaced with a new one, delaying power for an additional week. That is why some parts of town had power the first week after the storm, and the rest of the town didn't. Both JCPL and the town knew this but didnt tell anyone. I don't live in Sunshine Harbor, but they have every right to complain.
Da Poppa November 29, 2012 at 04:58 PM
Not only are you opinionated, you're a fool, too. Theyre not the only residents of the Boro, but they are the only ones that lost their homes! You have debris in your yard from your neighbors tree, they have debris from SEASIDE HEIGHTS. They, and everyone else in this town has ever right to complain about the lack of information from JCPL and the Boro government, before, dring and after the storm. If I had to tell another Boro official at the relief center that residents didnt know about the center, only to be told "we put it on the Patch" I was going to scream THEY DON'T HAVE POWER, HOW CAN THEY READ THE PATCH. We had no emergency plan, we had no contingency plan, we had no TESTED communictions plan, we had no leadership, we had no help. What we do have is a bunch of overpaid do nothing's on the Boro payroll, from the 20 or so $100K+ cops, to the chair warmers at Boro Hall. Don't talk about what you think their legitimate grips are ... every one of their complaints are legitimate and need to be addressed.
Glenn Anderson November 29, 2012 at 05:33 PM
Any thoughts about a town CERT program? CERT's are formed by members of a neighborhood or workplace who want to be better prepared for the hazards that threaten their communities. Glenn
Opinionated November 29, 2012 at 05:35 PM
To Da Poppa, you're right I am a fool. I should make shorter posts because people like you don't read the whole thing. If you bothered to look, I pointed out that the complaints about JCPL (OH, do I agree with you about them) need to go to the state, especially the BPU. They regulate the utilities, not the Boro Council. I read about evacuations before the storm, can't say if this specific area was included or not, but they were there. Point Boro could and should make up another warning system, ala Honeywell, for such circumstances is an obvious thought now. I love how you are seemingly blaming the Boro for the yards awash in Seaside's debris. There is one legitimate complaint here and that is extraordinary measures should have been taken to cart away the debris. It is a health hazard due to all of the soaked items that are breeding grounds for mold and mildew. I also see MANY workers cleaning all of these homes without masks on their faces to prevent inhalation of the spores. I guess we'll see our ER's busy in the coming months with respiratory patients. Now it's time for me to ask you this. How did some of these affected areas get power back long before the (in your opinion) "unaffected" people? JCPL was fined for not updating the equipment but obviously not enough. That is an issue which should be pressed and going to your town officials is not the answer. IT'S THE STATE.
Denise Di Stephan (Editor) November 29, 2012 at 05:41 PM
Glenn, I found what I believe is the website http://www.citizencorps.gov/cert/ of the program you refer to. Just including here in case folks want to read it and learn about it. Glenn, perhaps you could contact Borough officials about how this could help the Borough? Thank you for offering a constructive suggestion.
Glenn Anderson November 29, 2012 at 05:55 PM
Denise, Has anyone ever brought up a CERT Program? It sounds like our town could use some positive help. http://www.citizencorps.gov/cert/about.shtm Glenn
Glenn Anderson November 29, 2012 at 06:02 PM
Denise, I actually did have a "knee deep" conversation with Mr Sabosik on the day after but have not followed up yet due to home repairs. He sounded encouraging I'll follow up. Glenn
Denise Di Stephan (Editor) November 29, 2012 at 06:07 PM
Thanks, Glenn. As I said, now really is the time all residents of the Borough need to contact council members directly to let them know how they think communication should be handled in the future, whether it's CERT, a Reverse 911, robo-calls, bull horns or anything else that might be deployed.
Chase November 30, 2012 at 01:06 AM
Nancy, They don't care about the kids or how they get to the bus stop? They really don't care about all the residents either. If someone important or with power lived in that area I guarantee it would have been cleaned up already. The town is only worried about all the residents money and them sending it in to pay for all their own needs and benefits.
Brittney December 01, 2012 at 01:00 AM
My uncle went into Borough Hall to ask for the water to be turned off, Reply he got from the people who were in the office, "We're not dealing with that right now we have other things to worry about." That is all we are waiting for to be turned off so our contractor can start tearing down the house so we can come home. I find that to be very rude and selfish and unbelievable that, that came out of their mouths. I WANT TO COME HOME !
Da Poppa December 01, 2012 at 01:37 AM
So your uncle went to Boro Hall and expected someone to do something? You know what they were worrying about? The grab bag gift for their Christmas Party.
Chief Calluout December 01, 2012 at 02:07 AM
Exactly...The grab bag gift and what dish who is making for their Christmas Party? I say all Sunshine Harbor residents do not pay anything to the town until we get some answers.
Peggy Covert December 01, 2012 at 10:23 PM
I really don't know who to reply to so I just picked anyone. Years ago I lived in Sunshine Harbor. The first house that we built in 1947 was on Seagul Terrace on the corner faceing (sp) the beach. The second house we built in 1952 was on Center street, the very end house 1656 (I think). I spent many happy years there and tried to figure out how those houses faired. From what I am reading here, not too well. I am so sorry for all the loss. Just three years ago I drove by our home on Center street and got to meet the present owner. He let me in to see all the changes he was making to the home. My nephew lived in Mantalokin on the beach and lost his home to the ocean. Please know how bad I feel because since age seven to the time mom sold the house, (age 33) I have loved living in Sunshine Harbor. My Prayers are with all of you and hope that soon you will get the help that you need. Sincerely, Peggy Covert
Mary Ann December 02, 2012 at 08:39 PM
Denise, not only are we still piled high with the of our own homes a month after the storm, now we have dump trucks sneaking in at night and dumping loads of debrie from someplace else! Again I have to ask why there seems to be no security for this area?
Mary Ann December 02, 2012 at 08:42 PM
This system is only effective while phones are still working. We had trouble with our phones quite early during this storm as well as many others in the past.
Mary Ann December 02, 2012 at 09:25 PM
I have to disagree with you about the residents of Sunshine Harbors, being one of the many here that lost just about everything we own and are trying to get back on our feet again. The complaint about the evacuation order is that only one year ago, during hurricane Irene, we were notified of a mandatory evacuation by loud speaker from a police car driving slowly through our streets. This time, many of our residents waited for that same warning again. It caused some confusion when the evacuation notification policy changed within such a short period of time. Power was lost early in the day, so TV's and computers were not available for information and not everyone uses computers regularly. Many senior residents still depend on word of mouth in emergency situations. We evacuated on our own, but I'm sure others waited for a warning like the one sent out just a year before. The damages sustained to our homes here in the Harbor are quite extensive - maybe not as bad as those that live closer to the ocean - but our homes are without floors, walls, furniture, appliances, heat, hot water. In cases of my neighbors with ranches - they lost their beds and clothes. Where do you live? How is your home? How can you say "You don't have it as bad as you think"? Do you have any compassion or just blind opinions? Some here lost everything! Now we have people driving around our neighborhood dumping debrie from somewhere else on our yards at night! You could learn some empathy.
Mary Ann December 02, 2012 at 09:34 PM
Sorry Denise, I deleted the word debris in my reply above. (I probably would have spelled in incorrectly though - Ha Ha!)
Denise Di Stephan (Editor) December 02, 2012 at 11:50 PM
Mary Ann, Brittney, and Nancy G.: Please email me at denise.distephan@patch.com so I can get details and look into this. Thanks.

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